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  1. #201
    Well hopefully Groubert is dead on when he says it's a must see doc. I'm ripping it from https://w1.123movies-org.site/movie/...html?ep=1&sv=9
    if you decide to watch it Monet (no one else reads these threads except us two, so I assume I am speaking to a viewership of one), you can watch or rip it from this link.

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  2. #202
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Well hopefully Groubert is dead on when he says it's a must see doc. I'm ripping it from https://w1.123movies-org.site/movie/...html?ep=1&sv=9
    if you decide to watch it Monet (no one else reads these threads except us two, so I assume I am speaking to a viewership of one), you can watch or rip it from this link.
    All the members, guests and rats read every word we type out.

    Thanks for the link.
    I failed to mention it before but I seen it when it first came out.
    I disagree with Mark on the enjoyment of the documentary.
    Mark is on the inside so he is probably looking at it from a few different angles compared to me who is only looking to be entertained.
    Mark probably likes the truth and accuracy of it and the way it was shot and written and Mark probably has some sort of friendship with Val.
    In my opinion it makes Val look bad, needy and weak.
    Val Fucked Up his money a few times which is easy to do and I understand.
    Val sold all that property to gamble on Mark Twain???
    Fuck That... I hate that idea lol.
    I don't believe a Mark Twain movie would of been popular with the masses these days.
    So many things I don't like about the documentary.
    I'll probably never watch it again unless its on a TV and I'm too lazy to change the channel and I have nothing else to do.
    Fucking Up your money that bad and doing those shows and signing all those autographs??
    Putting a blanket over your head while they wheel you out.
    Val makes it sort of look like he got the short end but it is obvious that he Fucked things up.
    I mean he had a GREAT FUCKING RUN but the Party is Over and most people can't ever face that fact and want to live forever.

    Val Kilmer still has something like 5 to 10 Million.
    Fuck... just relax and enjoy your money till you move on from this world.
    But he is an addict who has to document every second of his life so that isn't going to change lol.
    I sort of understand.
    Life is messy and complicated.

    I prefer famous people to act like Norm Macdonald.
    Sarcastic, Strong and Secretive all the way till the bitter end.
    Or at the very least just quietly disappear out of the public view.
    Last edited by monet; 05-28-2022 at 11:21 PM.

  3. #203
    Kirk Douglas did the same shit with his show/documentary in 2009 Before I forget.
    I watched about 10 minutes before I gave up on it.
    I still have the DVD as it came in a package set but don't ever plan to watch it.
    I got up to the point where he said he had a gun in his mouth in his house and decided not to do it.
    He made it ten more years but he had plenty of money and family to get it done.
    The little bit that I watched of the documentary/show screwed up my perspective of the image he burned into our brains with 60+ years of movies.
    These people are selling me a dream and escape.
    I don't want them to sell me realism at the end of their life so they can profit.
    I think Paul Newman did it better.
    At the end he only decided to voice a cartoon.
    I can live with that.
    Although he really Fucked Up with that bullshit charity salad dressing shit though.
    His daughter(s) are Pissed and got Fucked lol.
    I'm pretty sure all charities are a scam and I tend to think he set it up for tax purposes.
    It's a Behemoth though.
    That Charity Money is getting stolen left and right.
    Last edited by monet; 05-29-2022 at 12:03 AM.

  4. #204
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Well hopefully Groubert is dead on when he says it's a must see doc. I'm ripping it from https://w1.123movies-org.site/movie/...html?ep=1&sv=9
    if you decide to watch it Monet (no one else reads these threads except us two, so I assume I am speaking to a viewership of one), you can watch or rip it from this link.
    All the members, guests and rats read every word we type out.

    Thanks for the link.
    I failed to mention it before but I seen it when it first came out.
    I disagree with Mark on the enjoyment of the documentary.
    Mark is on the inside so he is probably looking at it from a few different angles compared to me who is only looking to be entertained.
    Mark probably likes the truth and accuracy of it and the way it was shot and written and Mark probably has some sort of friendship with Val.
    In my opinion it makes Val look bad, needy and weak.
    Val Fucked Up his money a few times which is easy to do and I understand.
    Val sold all that property to gamble on Mark Twain???
    Fuck That... I hate that idea lol.
    I don't believe a Mark Twain movie would of been popular with the masses these days.
    So many things I don't like about the documentary.
    I'll probably never watch it again unless its on a TV and I'm too lazy to change the channel and I have nothing else to do.
    Fucking Up your money that bad and doing those shows and signing all those autographs??
    Putting a blanket over your head while they wheel you out.
    Val makes it sort of look like he got the short end but it is obvious that he Fucked things up.
    I mean he had a GREAT FUCKING RUN but the Party is Over and most people can't ever face that fact and want to live forever.

    Val Kilmer still has something like 5 to 10 Million.
    Fuck... just relax and enjoy your money till you move on from this world.
    But he is an addict who has to document every second of his life so that isn't going to change lol.
    I sort of understand.
    Life is messy and complicated.

    I prefer famous people to act like Norm Macdonald.
    Sarcastic, Strong and Secretive all the way till the bitter end.
    Or at the very least just quietly disappear out of the public view.
    Well if Val still has 5-10M left, that's plenty. I should not have assumed you hadn't seen Val's autobiography film. I assume he is still in Malibu, which has some of the best weather in the world, and he's got a nice ride. In the documentary, he claimed it was the divorce expenses that fucked him up, but I'll take your word for it that it was the Mark Twain movie that reduced his fortune to 5-10M (I will also take your word for it that you are not the only one reading this thread besides me). If you're not a smoker and get throat cancer that's somewhat of a bad beat (I'm guessing he was not a smoker, or not much of one, but I don't know). Anyway, I'm glad he got it treated and recovered - hopefully his voice will recover too, but that's gravy.
    I enjoyed the footage Val provided from the set of the Island of Dr. Moreau fiasco. I liked that movie even though it was supposed to have been a total fuck-up.
    What I was really hoping for, was a lot more detail about Real Genius which is one of my favorite movies and my favorite movie that Val made -but it was totally glossed over.
    I saw an obscure movie 17 or so years ago that he did called Mindhunters which you may have seen. IIRC this one sat on the rack for 10 years or something like that and then it was in theaters (where I saw it) for like a week. It was OK, nothing special. Since Val did so many movies, I guess it was understandable that he glossed over a lot of them and just stuck to detailing the big ones.
    Anyway, as you mentioned, Mark is probably (like 99.9% probably) a friend of Val's and was just plugging the shit for Val. I thought it was Ok, but absolutely no fucking way was this a must see documentary.
    Hopefully Val realizes that cruising around Malibu in a nice ride with 5-10M in the bank is just fine, but that's out of my hands.

  5. #205
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Well if Val still has 5-10M left, that's plenty. I should not have assumed you hadn't seen Val's autobiography film. I assume he is still in Malibu, which has some of the best weather in the world, and he's got a nice ride. In the documentary, he claimed it was the divorce expenses that fucked him up, but I'll take your word for it that it was the Mark Twain movie that reduced his fortune to 5-10M (I will also take your word for it that you are not the only one reading this thread besides me). If you're not a smoker and get throat cancer that's somewhat of a bad beat (I'm guessing he was not a smoker, or not much of one, but I don't know). Anyway, I'm glad he got it treated and recovered - hopefully his voice will recover too, but that's gravy.
    I enjoyed the footage Val provided from the set of the Island of Dr. Moreau fiasco. I liked that movie even though it was supposed to have been a total fuck-up.
    What I was really hoping for, was a lot more detail about Real Genius which is one of my favorite movies and my favorite movie that Val made -but it was totally glossed over.
    I saw an obscure movie 17 or so years ago that he did called Mindhunters which you may have seen. IIRC this one sat on the rack for 10 years or something like that and then it was in theaters (where I saw it) for like a week. It was OK, nothing special. Since Val did so many movies, I guess it was understandable that he glossed over a lot of them and just stuck to detailing the big ones.
    Anyway, as you mentioned, Mark is probably (like 99.9% probably) a friend of Val's and was just plugging the shit for Val. I thought it was Ok, but absolutely no fucking way was this a must see documentary.
    Hopefully Val realizes that cruising around Malibu in a nice ride with 5-10M in the bank is just fine, but that's out of my hands.
    Val is/was a really good looking guy.
    No way in Hell he wasn't cheating around on his wife lol.
    Marriage has about a 50% chance of failure anyways and in Cali the Wife has all the power.
    Whatever... besides the point.
    In the Doc he was saying how all that land was for his family and their future generations.
    That he would never give it up.
    And after all that he says I need to sell it to fund this Mark Twain Project.
    I wasn't there and I don't know him or anything but just on the surface that seems contradictory and selfish.
    I get it... that's life.
    When MC Hammer went Broke he told people... hey, there is MC Hammer Broke and there is Regular People Broke.
    Meaning that when these people go broke it is more likely for paperwork purposes and they have plenty of hidden cash/assets.
    I don't care how much money and power you have... it's easy to Fuck It Up.
    I don't know if Val was a smoker but he certainly had to smoke for certain roles in movies.
    And just living in LA or any Big City Area is a large risk for all sorts of Cancer(s).
    The documentary had its moments but it just felt disjointed and didn't have much substance, in my opinion.
    But everyone else loves it and praises it because you know, its about a guy overcoming death and cancer and nobody wants to kick him when he is down.

    I am reviewing the documentary for entertainment purposes.
    I probably should shut the fuck up about Val's Personal Life which I know nothing about.
    Although he did put it all out there for us to look at and somewhat judge.
    When you do the math, 62 is near the end, try to enjoy it.
    If you make it into your 70's without money and people to help you, you are most likely Fucked!
    And it only gets worse.
    I watched my grandfather have a stroke in his early 60's and spend 25 years in a VA Hospital Bed.
    That's Life but do you really want to live out your last 25 years like that?
    I guess his sister liked it as she controlled all that monthly VA and SS money coming in lol!
    12 x 25 = 300 x a monthly average of 3000 dollars = 900 Dimes over 25 Years.
    That's a lot of money, I guess you have to keep him alive at those numbers lol.
    Me, I'm crawling out somewhere with my 45 Automatic.
    I don't want to make a mess indoors for someone to clean up.
    The End.
    Last edited by monet; 05-29-2022 at 06:08 AM.

  6. #206
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    When MC Hammer went Broke he told people... hey, there is MC Hammer Broke and there is Regular People Broke.
    That's a gem of a line from MC Hammer, thanks for posting it. When you have a big posse, and they all want a piece, then that's how it goes I guess. IIRC, Val had to do some smoking in Tombstone and The Doors, but I don't remember for certain.
    Anyway, the great insights you posted in the post just before this one, are ones I totally agree with.

  7. #207
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    That's a gem of a line from MC Hammer, thanks for posting it. When you have a big posse, and they all want a piece, then that's how it goes I guess. IIRC, Val had to do some smoking in Tombstone and The Doors, but I don't remember for certain.
    Anyway, the great insights you posted in the post just before this one, are ones I totally agree with.
    No worries.
    My thoughts come off like a complete asshole all the time but I'm used to it and how it effects or affects people.
    I just have so much damn sarcasm I can't help it.
    Natural.
    I got plenty of backhands from my father for it and I got the "You Feel Froggy" question from him all the time lol.
    I got him back a few times.
    I broke his nose once when we were both drunk on MadDog 20/20.
    Good Times.
    I drained his bank account a few times lol.
    Payback for the few times he beat me up when I was like 8 years old.
    Fun Times.
    Still Love Him no matter what.
    And never ratted on him for this massive black eye he gave me in second grade.
    Actually I never ratted on anyone but I have been on the other end of that.
    Totally blindsides you and feels like jumping in a frozen lake.
    I must of had 11 different teachers grill me over and over again asking me if my Father beat me and I stuck with the same story.
    I ran into a parking meter when I looked back running at full speed.
    That was a true story.
    That actually happened but it hit me square in the chest and knocked me back a few feet and didn't give me any bruises.

    Anyways, enough about my Fun Childhood, which it was.
    Wouldn't trade it for anyone else's.

    So I listened to that GWAE Podcast that you recommended.
    Really Good.
    I skimmed a bit but listened to most of it.
    It really shows you that if you don't know complicated math formulas and many other things that you should never make a sports bet.
    But this is from the mind of a very analytical person which I agree that he is 100% correct.
    He did hint about aggressive players though but he felt they only make money in the short term.
    Can you beat 3 teamers?
    Probably Not but the point is exactly what he mentioned.
    When you bet parlays you look like a sucker.
    Always make the Casino think you are some crazy sucker who likes to gamble.
    When you bet parlays you do not move the line.
    This is huge for 2 teamers IMO.
    But whatever... percentage players die broke too don't they tableplay!?

  8. #208
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    But whatever... percentage players die broke too don't they tableplay!?
    I'm glad you enjoyed the Parlay podcast Monet. Yes, exactly, two-teamers with one no brainer mixed in does the trick. The podcast guest recommended the book The Logic of Sportsbetting, so I may pick up a copy. No reason not to expand one's horizons or to at least know what the possibilities are if one is a statistically minded punter.

    Now to your question - yes, percentage players die broke all the time. IMHO it is often because they take a +EV play but forget about variance which is at least as important. And then they make this mistake over and over again. Or they make one massive life-ruining mistake with one such play. Gotta be able to fade the variance. Or to put it one other way, gotta be adequately bankrolled for whatever situation you're in.

  9. #209
    Petty begged Harrison to Tour but it never happened.
    Orbison's death didn't help.
    They missed out on a ton of money.
    Petty cared more than any of them.
    I guess you just never have enough.
    Amazing Collaboration that created a Super Group that we will never see again.


  10. #210
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Petty begged Harrison to Tour but it never happened.
    Orbison's death didn't help.
    They missed out on a ton of money.
    Petty cared more than any of them.
    I guess you just never have enough.
    Amazing Collaboration that created a Super Group that we will never see again.
    Thanks for the reco Monet.

  11. #211
    Decent 3 minute interview if you like Married with Children.


  12. #212
    What the Fuck, Judge?
    You cleared your throat every 30 seconds and seemed like you were in a hurry to leave.
    Great Concept but the Interview sucked In My Opinion and I don't think Rogan watched enough of Judge's material to keep the conversation going.
    He literally admitted that he never watched Idiocracy until the day of this interview.
    Rogan has horrible taste in movies by the way.
    I also am not convinced that Mike Judge wanted to do the interview.
    When you do 3 hours a lot of things come out that you may not want to come out.
    After about an hour into the interview you could see Judge having conflictions and trying to be careful in what he said.
    And Judge had to leave early for some appointment so the interview was about an hour and 20 minutes.
    Fuck, Joe, Plan out your schedule better.
    Especially when you have these type of guests on.
    Oliver Stone did the same shit on his last appearance.

    Upgrayedd Gonna Get His Money!!

    Last edited by monet; 06-23-2022 at 07:06 AM.

  13. #213
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    What the Fuck, Judge?
    You cleared your throat every 30 seconds and seemed like you were in a hurry to leave.
    Great Concept but the Interview sucked In My Opinion and I don't think Rogan watched enough of Judge's material to keep the conversation going.
    He literally admitted that he never watched Idiocracy until the day of this interview.
    Rogan has horrible taste in movies by the way.
    I also am not convinced that Mike Judge wanted to do the interview.
    When you do 3 hours a lot of things come out that you may not want to come out.
    After about an hour into the interview you could see Judge having conflictions and trying to be careful in what he said.
    And Judge had to leave early for some appointment so the interview was about an hour and 20 minutes.
    Fuck, Joe, Plan out your schedule better.
    Especially when you have these type of guests on.
    Oliver Stone did the same shit on his last appearance.

    Upgrayedd Gonna Get His Money!!

    I appreciate the heads up Monet. Since it's an 1:20 I'm in just to see the plane crash aspect of a botched interview. BTW I went with Mickey's reco from one of the other threads and watched 2000 Mules and I enjoyed it. Basically, if you decide to watch it, there aren't any surprises since Groubert already laid out how the election scam works, but it's still nice to see the degree of substantiation that this doc puts down. Also, the most recent America's Untold Stories (Tuesday's June 21st episode) has some more Groubert gold with respect to deep state ops IMHO - so you might want to check it out if you have time and haven't seen it already.

  14. #214
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    I appreciate the heads up Monet. Since it's an 1:20 I'm in just to see the plane crash aspect of a botched interview. BTW I went with Mickey's reco from one of the other threads and watched 2000 Mules and I enjoyed it. Basically, if you decide to watch it, there aren't any surprises since Groubert already laid out how the election scam works, but it's still nice to see the degree of substantiation that this doc puts down. Also, the most recent America's Untold Stories (Tuesday's June 21st episode) has some more Groubert gold with respect to deep state ops IMHO - so you might want to check it out if you have time and haven't seen it already.
    I'll check out the mules.
    I usually listen to Mark when I do the dishes.
    Many people on YouTube gave positive comments to this Judge Interview but I think they were just being nice as they love his work.
    The last time Judge was on Rogan he came as a Tag Along and barely said a word.
    The interview had weird flow.
    Judge did not seem into it from my perspective.
    You might see it differently.
    It could of been some sort of last minute thing that they just threw together too, so there is that.

  15. #215
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    I appreciate the heads up Monet. Since it's an 1:20 I'm in just to see the plane crash aspect of a botched interview. BTW I went with Mickey's reco from one of the other threads and watched 2000 Mules and I enjoyed it. Basically, if you decide to watch it, there aren't any surprises since Groubert already laid out how the election scam works, but it's still nice to see the degree of substantiation that this doc puts down. Also, the most recent America's Untold Stories (Tuesday's June 21st episode) has some more Groubert gold with respect to deep state ops IMHO - so you might want to check it out if you have time and haven't seen it already.
    Someone brought up a really good point in the comment section about this interview.
    Mike Judge may be doing or did a lot of cocaine and that is why all the clearing of his throat and noises he constantly makes.
    I knew someone who snorted a lot of crank and had this similar problem.
    Makes sense to me once I read that comment.

  16. #216
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    I appreciate the heads up Monet. Since it's an 1:20 I'm in just to see the plane crash aspect of a botched interview. BTW I went with Mickey's reco from one of the other threads and watched 2000 Mules and I enjoyed it. Basically, if you decide to watch it, there aren't any surprises since Groubert already laid out how the election scam works, but it's still nice to see the degree of substantiation that this doc puts down. Also, the most recent America's Untold Stories (Tuesday's June 21st episode) has some more Groubert gold with respect to deep state ops IMHO - so you might want to check it out if you have time and haven't seen it already.
    Someone brought up a really good point in the comment section about this interview.
    Mike Judge may be doing or did a lot of cocaine and that is why all the clearing of his throat and noises he constantly makes.
    I knew someone who snorted a lot of crank and had this similar problem.
    Makes sense to me once I read that comment.
    Yes, great insight by the commenter - thanks for posting it. It may also have been one of the primary reasons why he wanted to cut the interview short.

    On Tuesday's episode of America's Untold Stories, Groubert made a great point about just how fully owned/compromised all these A-list celebrities are. Groubert mentioned that Ben Stiller, who lives near Groubert very comfortably in Socal, wouldn't just jump up and go to Ukraine unless the deep-state handler(s) that made him an A-lister told him to get his butt over there.

  17. #217
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    On Tuesday's episode of America's Untold Stories, Groubert made a great point about just how fully owned/compromised all these A-list celebrities are. Groubert mentioned that Ben Stiller, who lives near Groubert very comfortably in Socal, wouldn't just jump up and go to Ukraine unless the deep-state handler(s) that made him an A-lister told him to get his butt over there.
    That makes me look at Meet the Parents in the different light now.

  18. #218
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    On Tuesday's episode of America's Untold Stories, Groubert made a great point about just how fully owned/compromised all these A-list celebrities are. Groubert mentioned that Ben Stiller, who lives near Groubert very comfortably in Socal, wouldn't just jump up and go to Ukraine unless the deep-state handler(s) that made him an A-lister told him to get his butt over there.
    That makes me look at Meet the Parents in the different light now.
    Yes. That's why they had Jeffrey Epstein (key Deep State asset who was suicided while in prison you'll recall since he knew a lot of secrets) always flying powerful people to his island (set up and financed by his handlers) via the Lolita Express or getting serviced at his New York mansion (set up and financed by his handlers) - so that his powerful "guests" would compromise themselves and then be under total control of Epstein's handlers. His handlers being the people who run the world.
    If they want Hanks, Penn, Stiller or whomever else they own to get something going, they better fucking jump the fuck up and do it.
    I'm actually surprised they haven't iced Corey Feldman yet - I guess he has some sort of dead-man's switch that he let them know he had if they try anything funny.

  19. #219
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Yes. That's why they had Jeffrey Epstein (key Deep State asset who was suicided while in prison you'll recall since he knew a lot of secrets) always flying powerful people to his island (set up and financed by his handlers) via the Lolita Express or getting serviced at his New York mansion (set up and financed by his handlers) - so that his powerful "guests" would compromise themselves and then be under total control of Epstein's handlers. His handlers being the people who run the world.
    If they want Hanks, Penn, Stiller or whomever else they own to get something going, they better fucking jump the fuck up and do it.
    I'm actually surprised they haven't iced Corey Feldman yet - I guess he has some sort of dead-man's switch that he let them know he had if they try anything funny.
    I see you have come out of your shell for this topic.
    Nicely Done!

  20. #220
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Yes. That's why they had Jeffrey Epstein (key Deep State asset who was suicided while in prison you'll recall since he knew a lot of secrets) always flying powerful people to his island (set up and financed by his handlers) via the Lolita Express or getting serviced at his New York mansion (set up and financed by his handlers) - so that his powerful "guests" would compromise themselves and then be under total control of Epstein's handlers. His handlers being the people who run the world.
    If they want Hanks, Penn, Stiller or whomever else they own to get something going, they better fucking jump the fuck up and do it.
    I'm actually surprised they haven't iced Corey Feldman yet - I guess he has some sort of dead-man's switch that he let them know he had if they try anything funny.
    I see you have come out of your shell for this topic.
    Nicely Done!
    Thanks Mate. Just above freezing 12 oz. can of Cherry Coke Zero revved me up yesterday. That post will probably get me killed if any of those fucks read VCT (probably not - j/k).

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