Copy of letter sent to multiple casinos

[coach belly]

he bets the same order as the clump previously played .

If the players are permitted to touch the cards, then they are not put back into play after being dealt once.

Then he is choosing to play without touching the cards. Which is probably why he doesn't like playing with other people

He has repeatedly written that he, and other players at his table, are touching the cards.

He plays midi-baccarat, on the big table, where players open the hand.

Have you seen that game played live in a casino?

[kewlJ]

The casinos in question, several higher end properties on the strip in Las Vegas, are not just going to let a player win everyday for months at a time, for multiple long trips several times a year over many years, like this and then comp him high end on top of it. That just is NOT the way Las Vegas casinos, I assume any casino, but in particular high end las vegas casinos work. They are going to suspect everything from hole-carding, to cheating, maybe some form of dealer collusion, to whatever, and then they are going to figure it out.

You are assuming that the casinos haven't scrutinized MDawg's play, and came to the same conclusion as the experts in the True Story below..

True Story:

A few years back I was asked to investigate a baccarat player who had won tens of millions of dollars from a casino as a consistent winner over a period close to 3 years. He was a high-roller, with a maximum bet on baccarat of about $125,000. Those in management who were savvy about risk understood that this person was most likely just lucky, but few in upper management believed them. So they called in the experts.

I was among a small handful of experts who were hired to scrutinize how this person played and give a risk assessment. The casino kept careful records of each session of play. I also looked at video footage, inspected the cards, looked at the room where it happened, talked to dealers and did everything else you can imagine someone who is investigating a large financial loss might do. Without fail, every single person who looked at this player came to the same conclusion that I did -- he was lucky. We got various estimates of his luck, he was somewhere between 2.5 and 3.0 standard deviations above expectation for the period of his play.

Then I retired.

Then, about three months back I heard again from the casino, purely a friendly call. Guess what? The player had lost it all back, and a lot more. Bravo to the casino for not backing off this player, and instead, listening to the experts and realizing that every wager the player made was a loser, it was just a matter of time.

No I am not assuming that. I have absolutely considered that. But there are several major differencs.

First, in Eliot's story there is no mention of amount of play other than over 3 years period. That could be anything from one weekend a year every year to something significantly more. At that level of play it is doubtful it is too frequenly. I would guess 3-4 trips a year, but only a guess. But we do know Mdawgs volume of play, He plays every day for 50, 60 days in a row. His current trip is well over 2 month. So Mdawgs volume of play that he has posted over over the past few years, dwarfs the volume of play in the kind of story Eliot is referencing. At Mdawgs volume of play, just getting lucky for this long, isn't a possiblibly. AND they are going to find out what is going on.

The other difference, is we now know the player in Eliot's story wasn't playing with an advantage. So there was nothing to discover. In recent weeks Mdawgs story has been all over the place, with several things said, implying he is playing with an advantage. And if he is they will figure it out! They couldn't figure out the guy in Eliot's story because he wasn't playing with an advantage....nothing to figure out.

[Darkoz]

If the players are permitted to touch the cards, then they are not put back into play after being dealt once.

Then he is choosing to play without touching the cards. Which is probably why he doesn't like playing with other people

He has repeatedly written that he, and other players at his table, are touching the cards.

He plays midi-baccarat, on the big table, where players open the hand.

Have you seen that game played live in a casino?

MDawg has never said he plays Midi-Bac. He always says he beats Baccarat

Please point to one post by MDawg where he mentions he only plays Midi-Bac

[coach belly]

Mdawgs volume of play that he has posted over over the past few years,
dwarfs the volume of play in the kind of story Eliot is referencing.

Mdawgs story has been all over the place, with several things said, implying he is playing with an advantage.

Both of these claims are complete conjecture on your part,
your own fictitious fairytale.

Your false narrative also includes a claim that high-end casinos don't comp big winners.

The big player in Jacobson's story had won 10s of millions of dollars,
are you insisting that the casino stopped comping his stays,
and had him pay his own way to come lose it all back?

Is that how "high end las vegas casinos work"?

[kewlJ]

Mdawgs volume of play that he has posted over over the past few years,
dwarfs the volume of play in the kind of story Eliot is referencing.

Mdawgs story has been all over the place, with several things said, implying he is playing with an advantage.

Both of these claims are complete conjecture on your part.

Your false narrative also includes a claim that high-end casinos don't comp big winners.

The big player in Jacobson's story had won 10s of millions of dollars,
are you insisting that the casino stopped comping his stays,
and had him pay his own way to come lose it all back?

Is that how "high end las vegas casinos work"?

I did not say, "high-end casinos don't comp big winners" or if I did, I mispoke, didn't get across what I meant to say or you just flat misunderstood my point.

Of course high end players get comped. But if they are winning, winning, winning, for months at a time, every trip, multiple trips a year, for many years, no, the casino is just not going to kkeep giving them comps on top of all the winning without figuring out what is going on.

Do you understand the casino business?

[monet]

There was a name in the letter. It was redacted so it wouldn't be doxxing on this site and have the post removed. Your ability to always miss the obvious continues to amaze.

Well if it's now PC to out players doing AP (and I don't think a casino will be concerned about a player just playing) then I will begin posting lots more Advantage play tactics.

Certainly no one will have any problems with this?

And I don't care if you write letters to Casinos about me because in my case they all know about me.

It will be me ruining your play and not vice versa so I really don't give a fuck

I denounced outing when it first came up. Nobody denounces outing players or plays more than me. It is unacceptable no matter the circumstance. That is plain common sense. Something you severely lack. That is why you have so many problems.

Threatening to out more plays because someone calls you out for being the idiot ("horse's penis ") that you are is childish at best. Personally, at this point I could care less what you do. Continue supporting the fact that you are an idiot by doing you. You would only be hurting yourself and others on those plays.

Boz has sunk to the depths of Communist Redietz.
He doesn't have a leg to stand on in this Letter Bullshit.
With his actions and logic he should be typing out letters against his Best Pal AxelWolf.
AxelWolf has constantly claimed how he destroys Casinos hurting Boz's Stock Price.
No different than MDawgs Claims as AxelWolf claims to never had a losing year in how long???
Casinos throw him out all the time so he has to recruit people to work for him.
Not only that but he should be telling the Casinos about ZenKing because ZenKing is a constant winner... month/year in and out.
Next he needs to type all of his Casino Pals and Shareholders a letter about MaxPen because MaxPen makes over 100k a year killing the Casinos.
MaxPen even left a High Paying Gig to go Full Time AP.
So get to Typing out all your Fucking Letters Boz... You have a whole Forum to Tattle-Tale on.
Might as well send them some letters about JBJB and his Hole Carding Ways.

Personally I have made it known, on these forums, of 3 of the vehicles that I drive around town.
And shown some pictures.
So I have to close my eyes every time I start the ignition after Redeitz threatened all of us about blowing up our vehicles.
Now I have to sweat that Boz and others are typing out letters to my Hosts.
No biggy for me as I can always do something else but Boz's Ideology is shot all to hell.
Not a complete Pinko Faggot just yet but he is getting very close.

[coach belly]

MDawg has never said he plays Midi-Bac.

https://www.truepassage.com/forums/s...gas-trip/page2

[MaxPen]

To me it's just a matter of deduction.

Wizard says it's not a system or voodoo luck because he witnessed nothing that shakes his notions of -ev games.

But MDawg is doing "something more". Wizards words!

There has been a loss rebate mentioned but that would not account for constantly winning sessions. Note he wins sessions, not every hand. The loss rebate is just icing on the cake imo.

He claims he can tell when a streak is due.

We also know that he recently "felt" something was different where he played. As in something the Casino did different. It's not something he could put his fingers on.

To me that implies a method of tracking poor shuffles.

Here is my go at MDawg method imo.

Keeping track of previous bet order, ex. PPPBBPPPBPBP. He is allowed to keep a record of this and hell the casino supplies it on the digital results screen.

He keeps a mental marker (perhaps writes it down?) Of certain key cards that he can follow in the clump

We know shuffle tracking methods and how they work.

So he identifies the clump through a poor or sloppy shuffle (something a casino might be able to change discreetly without being to obvious) and when he identifies the key card he bets the same order as the clump previously played .

It would only take a few hands to recognize if the clump has been poorly shuffled such that the winning order will most likely repeat. If yes, bet into it. If no, retreat. (Which also fits as he claims to not be a true system of wagering blindly based on past results. He would only raise into it if he sees the pattern).

This would satisfy his claims of being able to predict streaks but not always.

As a real world example of something along these lines, the Golden Nugget suffered a huge loss when an unshuffled deck ended up put into play and the pattern became obvious to the players. They just followed the pattern and it never failed as due to the cards order, the outcome of future hands could be easily mapped

Without an unshuffled deck, I theorize MDawg is using poorly shuffled decks and shuffle tracking and prior bet outcome logs to predict his streaks.

Anyway that's my theory.

And it only took some deduction. You guys couldn't come up with that???

Right. Here's another theory. I didn't come up with that because I have some working neurons. DarkOz, do you ever read your own stuff? I mean, I get it that you don't actually read anyone else's, but you should at least read your own out loud in a mirror to see if you can get a hint of what you're trying to sell.

The problem with DarkOz is that once he commits to something -- say blowing $2500 because it's worth it to get a hint of a hidden edge, or committing to Shackleford as an effective (and honest?) expert witness, he's all about working backwards from his conclusions.

So now, after years of MDawg play and winning 50 of 52 or whatever, and tales of comps to winners without end, DarkOz comes to the conclusion that it's poorly shuffled decks for years at multiple properties that happen to be high end properties employing the best dealers.

Jesus Christmas, how did I not come up with that? I bow to the DarkOz's analytic skills. The great and powerful Oz -- knows all and sees all and analyzes like no other.

Let's take DarkOz's brilliant theory a step further. Maybe MDawg, like Italian entrepreneurs in years past, invested in a cadre and sent them all to dealer schools. Eventually, from his hidden lair, MDawg sent them out into the world to seed various high end casinos. After a few years, the Dawg simply gets the dealers' work schedules and plays when they are available all around town.

Or, conversely, maybe the Dawg just totes his own dealer with him wherever he goes , and the high end casinos love him so much that they allow his personal dealer to work the table while he plays.

DarkOz suggests it's poor shuffling at various high end casinos for years by different dealers in the high limit rooms, where, you know, the worst dealers least trusted by management ply their skills. WTF.

DarkOz, you're trying way to hard to sell complete idiocy. Something is up. You cannot be this naive without a motive.

I believe he really is that dumb. How much more evidence does a person need? I am thinking he should try and ask the AP that got him off the bus bench he was sleeping on and ask that person wtf is going on.

[kewlJ]

Boz has sunk to the depths of Communist Redietz.
He doesn't have a leg to stand on in this Letter Bullshit.
With his actions and logic he should be typing out letters against his Best Pal AxelWolf.
Not only that but he should be telling the Casinos about ZenKing because ZenKing is a constant winner... month/year in and out.
Next he needs to write all of his Casino Pals and Shareholders a letter about MaxPen because MaxPen makes over 100k a year killing the Casinos.
MaxPen even left a High Paying Gig to go Full Time AP.
So get to Typing out all your Fucking Letters Boz... You have a whole Forum to Tattle-Tale on.

Personally I have made it known on these forums of 3 of the vehicles that I drive around town.
And shown some pictures.
So I have to close my eyes every time I start the ignition after Redeitz threatened all of us about blowing up our vehicles.

Just stop Porkchop. Everyone knows this isn't about any concern as a shareholder. Maybe he is a shareholder, but that isn't what this is about. Boz doesn't like Mdawg, as many of us don't, his storytelling, his lying, leaving things out and then when people challenge his incomplete stories and claims, that don't make sense, he gets nasty. That rubs people the wrong way and this is the kind of retaliation you get. Mdawg has no one to blame but himself for that.

Now speaking of Porkchops (or speaking to Porkchop) let me segway into the meatloaf I just made. OMG, I am good. Bacon mixed into the groundbeef and wrapped around the outside. I would say the best effort of my life. What a catch I am. I can't believe guys aren't lining up. I can't wait until tommorrow to have some more.

[coach belly]

Of course high end players get comped. But if they are winning, winning, winning, for months at a time, every trip, multiple trips a year, for many years, no, the casino is just not going to keep giving them comps on top of all the winning without figuring out what is going on.

You are assuming that the casino hasn't investigated what is going on with MDawg.

The casinos in question, several higher end properties on the strip in Las Vegas, are not just going to let a player win everyday for months at a time, for multiple long trips several times a year over many years, like this and then comp him high end on top of it.

I'll ask again...do you think Jacobson's big player was still getting comped after winning 10s of millions of dollars?

[monet]

I believe he really is that dumb. I am thinking he should try and ask the AP that got him off the bus bench he was sleeping on and ask that person wtf is going on.

Tread Lightly as your Buddy Boz is typing out letters at this very moment about your AP Ways.

[monet]

I'm not stopping Shit.
Boz has opened the floodgates for us all to start outing each other.
It's about time to take the DarkOz Approach and release more AP Plays.
Watch all you Faggots run and hide when all your information is publicly posted and sent to every Casino Office in the Country.
That is what it has now come down to.
Us doing Private Eye Work, like Redietz and sending all that information to every Casino Executive Email in hopes that someone will listen.
Now I have to dig up all the phone numbers I have on all these Forum APs.
And they do respond to Emails.
I have taken their surveys a few times in the past and griped about things like Drink Tickets in the Sports Book and I got immediate, personal responses within 24 hours every time I filed a gripe.

Time to start hawking all the Black Jack tables for the infamous player who dines and dashes every day and inform the Pit on who this player really is who has destroyed the Casino for over a Million Dollars which hurt my stock price investments.

[kewlJ]

I'll ask again...do you think Jacobson's big player was still getting comped after winning 10s of millions of dollars?

Everyone knows your games by now. You are trying to set up for some gottch ya moment.

Look here is the thing about the Eliot story. What we know or have been told is the guy played $125,000 and was up 10 million. So that is what 80 bets. We don't know the timeframe, other than 3 years, meaning just how much play and how often.

So up 80 bets? That is really just varaince. I have been down over 100 max bets 5 or 6 different times in my career and that is playing with an advantage. So that happens. That is why card counters need a BR of 100 max bets or more, and it is really the "or more" these days.

So the 10 million is distortoring. Numbers I don't deal with, so you talk about that and it seems huge, until you break it down to 80 max bets, which again is on the edge of normal variance.

Now let's compare that to Mdawg. The times Mdawg has mentioned he asked pit for an average bet, it has been $1500, $1800 because he has mentioned how he feels this is low. So lets say $2000. Well he was up well over $220k a week or 10 days ago when I added it all up. Since then he has posted about a $66k losing day and mentioned a big $80k winning day and a number of 6, 8, 10k winning days. So he has got to be up over $250k from a $2000 average bet. That is 125 bets already, proportionally more than my biggest swing ever and 50% more than the guy in Eliots story. AND THAT IS JUST THIS TRIP! There are other not equally, but big winning trips, every day or almost everyday last fall, last spring and several years back, I beleive a total of 12 trips?

I mean do you see the magnitude of these claims?

You seem to want to go on and on about the Eliot story. They didn't find anything, BUT they looked and called in experts. They didn't find anything because turns out there was nothing to find. But if Mdawg is playing with an advantage as he now hints, there is something to find and they will find it.

[MaxPen]

I believe he really is that dumb. I am thinking he should try and ask the AP that got him off the bus bench he was sleeping on and ask that person wtf is going on.

Tread Lightly as your Buddy Boz is typing out letters at this very moment about your AP Ways.

Good luck.

[kewlJ]

Time to start hawking all the Black Jack tables for the infamous player who dines and dashes every day and inform the Pit on who this player really is who has destroyed the Casino for over a Million Dollars which hurt my stock price investments.

That's already been done, as far as I know, or at least threatened. And since the person came to town and was involved in an incident with security and police, I assumed followed through. And guess what? This faggot didn't run and hide, or even stop posting.

[MaxPen]

I'm not stopping Shit.
Boz has opened the floodgates for us all to start outing each other.
It's about time to take the DarkOz Approach and release more AP Plays.
Watch all you Faggots run and hide when all your information is publicly posted and sent to every Casino Office in the Country.
That is what it has now come down to.
Us doing Private Eye Work, like Redietz and sending all that information to every Casino Executive Email in hopes that someone will listen.
Now I have to dig up all the phone numbers I have on all these Forum APs.
And they do respond to Emails.
I have taken their surveys a few times in the past and griped about things like Drink Tickets in the Sports Book and I got immediate, personal responses within 24 hours every time I filed a gripe.

Time to start hawking all the Black Jack tables for the infamous player who dines and dashes every day and inform the Pit on who this player really is who has destroyed the Casino for over a Million Dollars which hurt my stock price investments.

A lot of which you are speaking about has already gone down or is currently happening. Watch as the US model shifts to a more euro style casino model over the next couple years.

[monet]

A lot of which you are speaking about has already gone down or is currently happening. Watch as the US model shifts to a more euro style casino model over the next couple years.

You make a good point.
I am usually two steps behind in anything and everything I do or have done in life.
I'm gonna get that tableplay though, if it is the last thing on Earth that I do.
He will be outed!

"The streets will flow with the blood of the Non-Believers!" - Beavis -

[coach belly]

Look here is the thing about the Eliot story.
What we know or have been told is the guy played $125,000 and was up 10 million.

You are dishonestly misrepresenting what Eliot wrote.

His big player won 10s of millions of dollars, not 10 million,
and $125K was his maximum bet, not his average bet.

A few years back I was asked to investigate a baccarat player who had won tens of millions of dollars from a casino as a consistent winner over a period close to 3 years. He was a high-roller, with a maximum bet on baccarat of about $125,000.

Here's another of your fictitious fairytales regarding MDawg...

he has posted about a $66k losing day and mentioned a big $80k winning day.

I went back and checked MDawg's adventures thread at WOV,
I couldn't find any mention of an $80K winning day since he lost $68K,
which was on Day 43.

You are entirely full of shit, nothing you write should be believed.

[kewlJ]

I don't really feel like searching for it because searching is too hard with this character as he posts just too damn much. You are going to have to make it worth my while. If I can find mention of the 80k winning day what do I get? Will you self suspend for 3 days....from both forums, which would give everyone a break.

[kewlJ]

Took a quick look, couldn't find it. But I can tell you it wasn't part of his DAY XXX description. It went something like this. I was thinking about the 80k win the other day and....

So anyway, I am getting sleepy and going to take a short nap before the Knights game. I might look later, but only if you are going to make it worth my while, by agreeing to self suspend. Otherwise, screw you. I am getting real tired of dealing with you.

BUT....in this quick search I did find 2 interesting things.

1.) He made some sort of reference about expecting to have a 100k or more win sometime soon, so we can look for that.

2.) he mentioned a previous trip where he won 500k in 10 days.

Like I said, the guy is clearly escalating, in search of new attention. So we have that to look forward to.

Funny thing, in Singer's tale, it was about this point, that Rob introduced the Newell. Mdawg appears to be headed for a luxury penthouse condo overlooking the strip. You just can't make this stuff up.