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    I figure we need a new mdog thread. Now where to put it? Has to be Las vegas forum right? That's where this great story takes place.

    So I was looking for something specific and was reading through some threads on several forums, until I got a headache and had to stop. While I didn't find what I was looking for, I did find some interesting things I hadn't read or considered before.

    I am sorry, I didn't bookmark some of these things so I could post direct quotes, but at one point Mdawg says "I am a writer. It is what I do. Beside what I do professionally, writing is something I enjoy". So I ask others, what does that mean to you? It doesn't say 'fiction' but most 'writing" is fiction and for good reason, that is what gets and holds the attention of readers, which is what this Mdog escapade is all about.

    Now what about the phrase 'adventures of'? Is it just me or does anybody else being objective think that sort of implies "made up" or fiction? How about the handle and main "character" in the whole adventure, Mdawg, "dawg" is from hip hop culture and a marketing ploy.

    At another point Mdawg said his writings are just for himself at this point. He went on to say that someday he may want to publish his story, but right now it was just for him (and since he is posting it on at least 4 forums, I guess us).

    So let's talk about the 4 forums, all with this thread with identical title "adventures of Mdawg". This is clearly a branding marketing technique. This "story" is a brand that he intends to try to monetize at some point.

    Mdawg only posts in his Mdawg adventure threads. He is not interested in contributing anything anywhere else. Again, it is about his 'brand'.

    Numerous times he has posted about the Alexa ratings of different forums, and threads when he posts vs when he doesn't. I don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't even aware of Alexa ratings, and now that I am could care less. I frequently post things that I suspect won't be very popular threads. But it is something I want to say, like the recent station buffet thread, or perhaps this one. Who the hell posts seeking out ratings? Again, I doubt any of us even knew of that crap. Only a guy with a marketing agenda.

    Last year, after he had been posting here during a lengthy suspension at WoV, when the suspension ended, he announced, literally announced, he would only be posting at forums that had the highest Alexa ratings. Again, this is a guy marketing his product and the product is a fictitious tale that he intends to publish and monitize.

    Sockpuppets: MucusMarcus and wellbush. Mucusmarcus amazingly signed up at WoV and started posting just when Mdawg was suspended, using a VPN of course. And Wizard looked the other way! Mdog needs these sockpuppets not only for the moral support (and praise) to appear credible, because there are no real people that find him credible, but to constantly bump his thread at WoV. Again, marketing. He can't have the thread die, which it would without these sockpuppet bumps. Interesting that wellbush and marcusmucus haven't shown their face here, where their VPN sockpuppetry wouldn't be tolerated. Only at WoV where Shackleford is oddly tolerating it, in the name of traffic.

    Have you noticed the way Mdawg flips on people. Anyone that says anything that Mdawg considers positive, he has good things to say about. But as soon as that person, says anything negative, Mdog turns, like a top. I will use my good friend Rob Singer as an example. When Rob voted in the mdawg poll, which was really Rob voting against me, Mdawg heaped praise on Singer. But more recently Singer posted what he really thought and the mdog turned on the attack guns.

    I am going to finish up with a little math: In the mdawg thread on this very forum, last year, someone (I believe half smoke) asked what the probability was for Mdawg having 12 consecutive trips, which he has posted, all lasting days to weeks and winning every trip, playing a -EV game? Tableplay, who is smarter than me with this stuff, answered, 0.00000498383%, later clarifying 1 in 20 million. And that was before Mdawgs 2 most recent trips last fall of more than a month and this current trip of 2 months and 200k winnings. The odds of this now must be well over 1 in several hundred million.

    It's a story, a fictional story of a fictional character, very similar to Singer's whole thing. James bond-ish fantasy stuff and nothing else.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 05-21-2021 at 09:36 AM.

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    You're a very conspiratorially-minded fellow. I mean, maybe the long game for MDawg is to sell books, but that would be a really shitty long game, because The Adventures of MDawg---The Complete Book would maybe push anywhere from 20-100 units. Total revenues would be under some of his reported average bets for a session.

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    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    You're a very conspiratorially-minded fellow. I mean, maybe the long game for MDawg is to sell books, but that would be a really shitty long game, because The Adventures of MDawg---The Complete Book would maybe push anywhere from 20-100 units. Total revenues would be under some of his reported average bets for a session.
    It's not a conspiracy. I am just going by things he said.

    I do agree if that is what this is ALL about, it is pretty lame. But I do beleive that the Singer situation, which is surprisingly similar was a bad longterm plan to sell books. Create as much chatter on internet as possible to sell book(s). Singer went as far as to self publish a book. Failed plan, but I think it may have been the initial plan.

    And there are other considerations. The guy on Norm's blackjack forum that invented the super-duper count (that couldn't be what he claimed) and the tales around that, flat out announced on Norm's forum, that he wanted to be known as one of the blackjack "greats". Who knows what drives these people.

    But I can tell you this much, a guy winning as Mdawg claims, whether it be some sort of hole-carding advantage play or him just being that 1 in 100 million, luckiest player in the world, would not be posting the stuff he is posting, pictures of all the money, all the high end chips, markers, checks (with casinos involved name right on them), the high end suites. A player really doing what Mdawg would keep his damn mouth shut until the ride is over and certainly not post anything identifying.

    And before anybody even compares that to me or other AP's talking about some experiences, it is not the same. No one is jeopardizing anything talking about small amounts.

    By the way, I play with a chip inventory. That means I keep a portion of my bankroll in chips to casinos in my regular rotation that I play frequently. (not going to discuss the advantages of that for me again), but I have 10's of thousands in chips. Have you ever seen me post pictures of chips or stacks of money? (which I also have) That kind of garbage is about one thing.....someone trying to convince people of something that isn't real. Smoke and mirrors.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 05-21-2021 at 09:57 AM.

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    While I've blocked doofdawg some time ago it seems he and the controversy he engenders is like herpes: it just won't go away.

    The guy is obviously an attention whore, a narcissist, and a bullshit artist.

    The trifecta.

    His writing furthers his seeming desire to be seen as a real life Bilbo or Frodo Baggins, but in fact he comes off as Gollum.
    What, Me Worry?

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    most 'writing" is fiction and for good reason
    More nonsense from a tewl...

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamrow...h=20e6d14956d0

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    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    You're a very conspiratorially-minded fellow. I mean, maybe the long game for MDawg is to sell books, but that would be a really shitty long game, because The Adventures of MDawg---The Complete Book would maybe push anywhere from 20-100 units. Total revenues would be under some of his reported average bets for a session.

    Mission, really, if you're oblivious to Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, should you be offering opinions on this stuff?

    Plus, since you were the dude who offered that you kind of thought Fear and Loathing was a movie, you should really understand that movie rights would be the long game goal. Movie rights income almost always dwarfs book sales income.

    And that leads to another question, "In all the time you have monitored or posted at WoV, has anyone ever offered Alexa ratings while posting 1 in gazillion narratives while getting protection from criticism while employing sockpuppets?"

    Note: That last question was indeed rhetorical.

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    The creepy obsession with Mdawg makes me VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. Threatening to Doxx him is beyond unacceptable. ALL he did was post his Gambling Reports and his Wins and Losses and he gets all this Harassment. It's VERY unsettling, creepy, and unnerving.
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    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


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    Whatís even more amazing than the level of stupidity being exchanged in this new thread is the idea that Kewlj would even think anyone except the fools responding would even read this drool mixed with cum (and some shit unsticking from his probing tongue) essay.

    As usual coach belly pointing out the obvious for the norms. Also, obvious when Bias Dan rates myself and coach as top trolls on his Bias site, just confirms even further his true Bias.

    Like I preach about several times throughout my thread if you could get past the foolish responses here, https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post123520 it should be obvious by now what anyone could expect from this place.

    RUN MEMBERS RUN

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    Mission, really, if you're oblivious to Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, should you be offering opinions on this stuff?

    Plus, since you were the dude who offered that you kind of thought Fear and Loathing was a movie, you should really understand that movie rights would be the long game goal. Movie rights income almost always dwarfs book sales income.

    And that leads to another question, "In all the time you have monitored or posted at WoV, has anyone ever offered Alexa ratings while posting 1 in gazillion narratives while getting protection from criticism while employing sockpuppets?"

    Note: That last question was indeed rhetorical.
    You're obsessed with whether or not people have read this book.

    Also, they did make it a movie:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_a...s_Vegas_(film)

    Which kind of explains why I thought it was a movie. The movie didn't do terribly well, apparently, despite a pretty good cast.

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    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Which kind of explains why I thought it was a movie. The movie didn't do terribly well, apparently, despite a pretty good cast.
    Sometimes Great Movies or Cult Classics are not a financial success at the Box Office.
    This particular movie is too difficult for the Sheeple.
    They can not relate to the subject material and or the subculture.
    You should be able to understand this being the Vulture that you are.

    Interesting Note is that Peter Boyle and Bill Murray also did a similar movie.
    Where the Buffalo Roam (1980).
    Another movie that did horrible at the box office, that was about similar characters, in a different setting.

    True Story... Hunter S. Thompson tied up Bill Murray to a Lawn Chair and threw him into the pool.
    (They were both on drugs at the time as the story goes)
    Although he didn't actually tie any knots and Bill Murray thought it was great and loved Hunter.
    Oddly enough he felt the opposite towards Richard Dreyfuss and tried to hit him with a heavy ash tray while filming What About Bob (1991).
    Claimed that nobody liked Richard and they just tolerated him.
    I tend to think that Bill Murray was staying in character, messing with Dreyfuss for the whole movie and continued on with the gag for 30+ years.
    That's just the way I like to picture it.
    Bill Murray is and has always been TEFLON.

    Legend has it that Johnny Depp spent 3 Million Dollars on Hunters Funeral and Fireworks Show.
    Look into some the early work of Depp... I would exclude Nightmare on Elm Street because I'm not big into Horror.
    Anyways... many of his movies weren't blockbusters... they were artistic and pretty darn good.
    Finally, after swearing he would never do Blockbusters, he sold out to that Pirates Movie and everyone flocked to it because once again they are Sheeple.
    Ironically, those Pirate Movies were the beginning of his downfall.
    Not easy to stay at the top forever.
    I tell you all of this because I know you care.
    Last edited by monet; 05-23-2021 at 05:00 PM.

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    Monet,

    That's a good point, I guess The Big Lebowski wasn't a box office hit. I just know Johnny Depp is a pretty huge star; I don't even have an opinion as to how good he is or isn't. I've never seen Nightmare on Elm Street and looking at Depp's filmography...I have seen a grand total of one Johnny Depp movie.

    I'm just not really a big pop culture guy. I watch a lot of documentaries and, if it's a fictional novel (or stylized as fiction) written after 1960, or so, I probably haven't read it.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Monet,

    That's a good point, I guess The Big Lebowski wasn't a box office hit. I just know Johnny Depp is a pretty huge star; I don't even have an opinion as to how good he is or isn't. I've never seen Nightmare on Elm Street and looking at Depp's filmography...I have seen a grand total of one Johnny Depp movie.

    I'm just not really a big pop culture guy. I watch a lot of documentaries and, if it's a fictional novel (or stylized as fiction) written after 1960, or so, I probably haven't read it.
    To be fair, Johnny in Nightmare On Elm Street was just a Supporting Star. The Main Stars were Heather Langenkamp(Spelling?) and Robert Englund. To Johnny's credit, his character, Glen almost survived the entire movie, and was the final Teen to be murdered. In the 2010 Remake, the Quentin(Glen reincarnation) character survived the entire movie.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


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    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



    If your kid hit my Kid, I'd tell you to make your kid apologize to both of us and ask you to apologise to both of us too. I still wouldn't want either of you in my house even after you both apologized.

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Monet,

    That's a good point, I guess The Big Lebowski wasn't a box office hit. I just know Johnny Depp is a pretty huge star; I don't even have an opinion as to how good he is or isn't. I've never seen Nightmare on Elm Street and looking at Depp's filmography...I have seen a grand total of one Johnny Depp movie.

    I'm just not really a big pop culture guy. I watch a lot of documentaries and, if it's a fictional novel (or stylized as fiction) written after 1960, or so, I probably haven't read it.
    No worries.
    I know you have no interest in the topic that is why my last sentence in my previous post.
    Some consider Hunter S. Thompson to be the greatest writer in the last 50-60 years.
    I don't agree with that even if he did start a new form of journalism.
    I mention this because you're a writer, all into writing which I would think would be into writers.
    Perhaps you are like Robert B. Parker.
    He had some interesting quotes about writing and writers.
    He claimed that he didn't give a shit if his work was appreciated because he just did it to earn a living.
    Possibly the opposite of Thompsons mindset.
    Anyways... no biggy.
    I suppose we have to mention that Hollywood moved to a winning formula 15-20 some odd years ago.
    This is why you and I could easily create a list of over 100 Great Movies prior that were flops at the box office.
    For decades they would gamble and many times the risk didn't pay off.
    But the public won because of the art that was created and is still with us.
    Hail, Caesar! (2016) pokes fun at this when they state they are making a movie that is going to lose money for the common good and that they will get their money back from the public on the next one.
    That's how they roped us in for so long and kept the money machine rolling IMO.
    Lose some... Crush on others but keep everyone hooked!
    Turns out that CGI and Super Hero Movies return more money on their investments which means NO RISK EVER.
    Unfortunately for us and them nobody can withstand the test of time and change in inevitable.
    Video Killed the Radio Star and these days the Movie Industry that once was is on its way out.
    Of course now the Internet killed the Video Star.
    Change is inevitable and the End is always Nigh.
    We went from the Horse to the Internal Combustion Engine which is about to be eclipsed by Electric Self Driving Vehicles.
    Yes, many of us are going into the night kicking and screaming but progress can never be halted.
    Unless something catastrophic happens like Planet Nibiru colliding with our Moon.
    Of course some believe that our Moon is an illusion and is really an Alien Way Station.
    Last edited by monet; 05-24-2021 at 05:53 AM.

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    I don't really consider myself a, "Writer," other than to the extent that I get paid to write stuff. I can string together grammatically correct sentences and present my thoughts on a subject at (too much) length and in a way that follows a clear logical progression.

    Gambling is a niche topic, so I happen to have a unique combination of passable (average, at best) writing ability and (slightly better than average) general gambling knowledge and mathematical ability.

    Therefore, I am compensated to write about gambling, which technically makes me a, "Writer."

    If the topic I write about were instead politics, then nobody would ever pay me to write because there's a lot of competition in that market and I am not particularly good (at writing) compared to said competition. There are other niche topics where I would perhaps have a fighting chance of getting paid to write, but in topics with a lot of writers (who are actually good) competing with me, I wouldn't have a chance.

    Quite simply, I'm not a writer without the niche. I'm a recreational AP and probably a hotel manager again, or gas station manager, or something.

    Anyway, when it comes to reading, I enjoy long-form non-fiction articles similar to those that I write. I'm not exactly a copycat...that's not the right word...but I'm very formulaic. The vast majority of what I write is stylized as a research paper or long essay.

    If you take me out of my element, then my writing instantly becomes terrible!

    So, my answer is that I'm only a writer to the extent that I get paid to write. I'm unqualified to have an opinion on Thompson or Parker. Thompson is considered a legend, which is one word you'll never hear anyone use to describe me. The best I can ever hope for is that folks are doing gambling-related searches in five or ten years and occasionally stumble on one of my articles.

    The best word to describe me as a writer is, "Adequate," or, "Passable." D+/C-, something like that.

    Anyway, we'd have to work on that movie list together. I've barely seen 100 movies in my entire life.

  15. #15
    Monet,

    I will share with you my quotes on writing, since you seem to be interested. These came by way of natural conversation, usually with hair stylists, who always seem to ask about one's occupation. I assume that they do it as a way to gauge income, and therefore, potential fuckability.

    I'd call myself a writer, except I get paid to write.-Mission146

    I'm a writer---that would sound a lot better if so many people didn't use that as a creative term for, 'Unemployed.'-Mission146

    He's a writer? How much did he make from writing last year? Nothing? He's just a person who writes; lots of people write. He's not making us look bad, but he's certainly making us look unemployed.-Mission146

    Asked what being a writer is like:

    It's like any other job, except I don't punch a clock. I kind of wish that I did, because then I'd work as often as I should.-Mission146

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Monet,

    I will share with you my quotes on writing, since you seem to be interested. These came by way of natural conversation, usually with hair stylists, who always seem to ask about one's occupation. I assume that they do it as a way to gauge income, and therefore, potential fuckability.

    I'd call myself a writer, except I get paid to write.-Mission146

    I'm a writer---that would sound a lot better if so many people didn't use that as a creative term for, 'Unemployed.'-Mission146

    He's a writer? How much did he make from writing last year? Nothing? He's just a person who writes; lots of people write. He's not making us look bad, but he's certainly making us look unemployed.-Mission146

    Asked what being a writer is like:

    It's like any other job, except I don't punch a clock. I kind of wish that I did, because then I'd work as often as I should.-Mission146
    Makes Sense.
    Parker claimed that he had to write 6 hours to get 2 hours of finished work.
    He had other quotes along those lines but nobody really cares about writers these days.
    I think everyone is into youtube, tiktok and I guess some other new ideas.
    It took me decades before I used youtube and I don't believe in apps and I have never seen a tiktok or cared to.
    As I have stated before, I live on the fringes of society and inside a subset.
    I have read a bunch of books and seen a lot of movies/documentaries though.
    Definition of a Wasted Life.

    I know you hate movies but I would think you might enjoy Factotum... maybe.
    The real life writer on the second youtube clip talking about writing, writers and how to be a professional drunk.



    Last edited by monet; 05-24-2021 at 12:12 PM.

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Monet,

    I will share with you my quotes on writing, since you seem to be interested. These came by way of natural conversation, usually with hair stylists, who always seem to ask about one's occupation. I assume that they do it as a way to gauge income, and therefore, potential fuckability.

    I'd call myself a writer, except I get paid to write.-Mission146

    I'm a writer---that would sound a lot better if so many people didn't use that as a creative term for, 'Unemployed.'-Mission146

    He's a writer? How much did he make from writing last year? Nothing? He's just a person who writes; lots of people write. He's not making us look bad, but he's certainly making us look unemployed.-Mission146

    Asked what being a writer is like:

    It's like any other job, except I don't punch a clock. I kind of wish that I did, because then I'd work as often as I should.-Mission146
    Makes Sense.
    Parker claimed that he had to write 6 hours to get 2 hours of finished work.
    He had other quotes along those lines but nobody really cares about writers these days.
    I think everyone is into youtube, tiktok and I guess some other new ideas.
    It took me decades before I used youtube and I don't believe in apps and I have never seen a tiktok or cared to.
    As I have stated before, I live on the fringes of society and inside a subset.
    I have read a bunch of books and seen a lot of movies/documentaries though.
    Definition of a Wasted Life.

    I know you hate movies but I would think you might enjoy Factotum... maybe.
    The real life writer on the second youtube clip talking about writing, writers and how to be a professional drunk.
    The first clip nailed it! I'm actually partly through a novel myself, but it sucks. I'm also an excellent self-promoter.

    What did Parker write primarily? The nice thing about non-fiction is most of the afterwork is just grammar checks and checks for typos---which don't take very long. For WoV, I usually just let it get published and make edits using the backdoor if I think there are so many errors as to be egregious. I'm usually more careful for the sites (literally every other site) for which I don't have editing access, but in works that sometimes exceed 10,000 words, some minor errors are going to get by even if you check fifteen times.

    If you write and read frequently, then you actually kind of develop a tendency to, "Read through," errors and see what should be there rather than what actually is.

    The written word is definitely a dying form of media. I might transition over to Youtube (or partially transition) eventually, but I doubt it. If the writing dries up, I'll probably bring my, "Media career," (just reading that seems ridiculous) to an end.

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    The first clip nailed it! I'm actually partly through a novel myself, but it sucks. I'm also an excellent self-promoter.

    What did Parker write primarily? The nice thing about non-fiction is most of the afterwork is just grammar checks and checks for typos---which don't take very long. For WoV, I usually just let it get published and make edits using the backdoor if I think there are so many errors as to be egregious. I'm usually more careful for the sites (literally every other site) for which I don't have editing access, but in works that sometimes exceed 10,000 words, some minor errors are going to get by even if you check fifteen times.

    If you write and read frequently, then you actually kind of develop a tendency to, "Read through," errors and see what should be there rather than what actually is.

    The written word is definitely a dying form of media. I might transition over to Youtube (or partially transition) eventually, but I doubt it. If the writing dries up, I'll probably bring my, "Media career," (just reading that seems ridiculous) to an end.
    Parker took over the private eye genre for about 40 years plus before he keeled over from a heart attack working at his desk in his home.
    He created the Spenser character(s) and novels.
    Later he was a consultant for the show Spenser for Hire.
    I named my dog Spenser and the girl Rachel from another one of his stories.
    He did a few other things and created Jesse Stone.
    Personally, I never cared for Stone but I own all hardcover books from the Spenser Series.
    I'd say Parker milked good old Spenser and Hawk for every penny he could get out of them.
    Very easy to read writing style and it isn't hard to read through one of his books within 3 days.

    I think you are missing the reality of the second video as that is the actual person who lived the life.
    I certainly would have to hold the same regard for Charles Bukowski as I do for Hunter S. Thompson.
    One did it through drugs the other through alcohol.

    Anyways... to start that list it isn't hard.
    We already have an easy 3 Great Movies that were Flops at the Box Office.

    Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (1998)
    Barfly (1987)
    Factotum (2005)

  19. #19
    (Note: This post will not reflect my usual IP address as I am mobile)

    I donít have anything to add to the first section, but I do have three movies to contribute:

    The Big Lebowski (1998)
    Idiocracy (2006)
    Office Space (1999)

    Did Spaceballs do well in theaters? Maybe Iíll look laterómultiple tabs is a pain in the ass on Safari for iPhone, my keyboard never wants to go away.

  20. #20
    You can't count Idiocracy as a Movie or Film.
    Idiocracy is a Fact Based Documenatry.
    Upgrayedd gonna get his!
    (Two D's for a Double Dose of Pimping)
    Let's not forget this gem... “You talk like a fag, and your shit’s all retarded.” – Dr. Lexus
    Oh and... "Welcome to Cosco, I love you."
    Last edited by monet; 05-24-2021 at 02:56 PM.

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