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    Just be glad I'm here that's all. First off, the ignorance of the public not even knowing what an executive order is in this country cracks me up. An executive order is not some law created out of thin air. For it to be valid there needs to be an EXISTING law passed by CONGRESS that allows whatever the puppet fake dictator president preaches in his little so called 'orders'. My legal knowledge has already paid off dividends with the legality of trespassing in casinos and me returning every time without repercussions. Every idiot before me including so called expert lawyers like Nersesian said casinos could trespass you at will. Yeah, they can trespass at you will alright. I would've been arrested by now and not trespassed 500 times and backed off 500 times. Oh and guess what, it's the same for Indian casinos, which I'll save for another day cause I already dug up the legality of that. The horror stories in Indian casinos is once again because of ignorance and lack of cases on the books due to everyone being a retard. Ignorance is at an all time high in this retarded society. Glad I did my own research, but now it's about to pay off even more with investments in one of the major private prison companies that's being shorted to death and is one of the highest shorted stocks on the market today. I've never seen a company with their valuation metrics and this high of a short ration and short interest. But let me not digress, let me explain why. All you little drones suggest you take notes once again.

    After further research on congressional approval of ending private prison contracts with the federal government, I came across two separate times it was INTRODUCED in the House. Once in 2017 and once in 2019. It was NEVER passed to date. Want proof? Here you go drones. First time it was introduced was by the 115th Congress in 2017. Then again by the next congress, the 116th Congress. No where is there any update on what the Senate did with this bill. No where in Title 18 is there an updated code section for 4015. ZERO.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...ouse-bill/3844

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...0/text?r=3&s=1

    These are BILLS people. INTRODUCED in the House and given to the Senate for approval. Nothing was PASSED. Legislation was never passed. No updates. NOTHING. This Biden so called 'order' is nothing but sugarcoated garbage to please the idiot Democrats who voted for him and to save face as soon as he gets in office. Nothing ever gets done and you want to know why? Because Presidents don't make the laws in this country. They promise all this garbage cause they know idiots don't understand anything about law in this country and what it takes for a law to pass and further don't even know what an executive order actually entails. Then they get into office, make a little speech and go on with their life inside a white mansion for the next 4 years. This happens all the time with presidents. People think presidents are some magical dictators in this country cause everyone's a droned out retard in this country and why the IRS gets away with raping every retard out there.

    The Biden executive order is not even LEGISLATION. These private prison stocks have been beaten down so badly to a pulp. GEO Group is trading for a third of their intrinsic value due to all this retarded chaos caused by ignorance. Biden's executive order won't do anything. And if you actually read the most recent proposed bill to end private prisons, Federal Correction Facilities bannings with private prisons will only start SIX years after it ever passes, which is probably never as there hasn't been an update for years on this Act of Congress. Go read it for yourself. For Federal Community Confinement Facilities, it's EIGHT years. 6-8 years IF it's ever even passed. Do you realize that's basically two presidential terms, which can have a republican back in office to calm the drones fears from the Democrats bluff, even though republican or Democrat doesn't mean shit if there's no act of congress even on the books to begin with.

    Because of all this negative sentiment, GEO had to pull their dividend for cash preservation to service the debt. All this so called pressure from the federal govt cause the CEO is a moron. Then you have financial banks who say they will not lend out to private prisons anymore. Lmao this is why I'm going to jump off my balcony. Everyone's a fucking retard. That includes so called 'experts', financial institutions, and hundred million dollar and billion dollar companies. The stock has been trashed and shorted to death due to ignorance. Even if there was a federal banning by the BOO and US Marshalls, it's about 30% of their revenues and they already diversified their company with all the negative pressure that has been built up for the past 4 years with the federal govt trying to end private prisons. This also doesn't affect their STATE contracts or their ICE contracts. They will still PRINT money with the other 70% of their business model and still have free cash flow. The big hiccup with all of this is their debt maturities in 2024 so everyone sold off due to this recent Biden scare, but that would've been mitigated due to the cash preservation by cutting the dividend. But guess what, there WONT be a fucking ban from the federal govt. It's all sugarcoated typical misinformed garbage from a so called dictator.

    Private Prisons are not going anywhere. Governments can't run shit well enough and overpopulations of criminals in the federal system won't allow them to regardless. It's a much needed service for society. There will be a short squeeze once this whole political charade is over with and GEO continues to beat on earnings and the drones realize nothing will happen to the 30% of potential revenue loss, GEO will climb back to the top and dominate their market together with it's other competitor CoreCivix. They run a duopoly with no competition. Common sense would have already told you though of what the fuck was the federal govt going to do with all the prisoners in the first place? Release them all? Release them where? Build new government run facilities from the ground up, because guess what, the federal government prisons are beyond overpopulated as it is. At the very worst they would have to lease the private real estate buildings from GEO and CoreCivix, which would mean big money for the companies. Now you know why none of this made sense because it's NEVER going to happen. Prisoners won't be released and buildings won't be created out of thin air and waste drone taxpayer's money. Why? There's no LAW on the fucking books.

    Thank me later dumass drones. The only risk here is a short term risk because the market in general is in a bubble, so short term every stock will get pulled down hard once this shit pops. Whether you want to buy now or wait for this shit to pop is up to you. Long term this is a winner. Talk to me in 2-5 years when all this garbage settles with your 200-300% gains.
    Last edited by ZenKinG; 06-01-2021 at 01:17 AM.

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  3. #3
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Politics subforum...
    In Zenking's Defense, he probably didn't even KNOW there is a Politics Subforum. He sporadically rants about losing in Casinos and how they are "Out to get him, and are "Cheating him," and then he disappears again... Rinse and repeat....
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


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  4. #4
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Politics subforum...
    In Zenking's Defense, he probably didn't even KNOW there is a Politics Subforum. He sporadically rants about losing in Casinos and how they are "Out to get him, and are "Cheating him," and then he disappears again... Rinse and repeat....
    Quit harassing me Tasha.

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Politics subforum...
    In Zenking's Defense, he probably didn't even KNOW there is a Politics Subforum. He sporadically rants about losing in Casinos and how they are "Out to get him, and are "Cheating him," and then he disappears again... Rinse and repeat....
    Quit harassing me Tasha.
    I wasn't trying to harass you. I was pointing out that Zenking isn't really a frequent Poster on this Forum...
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


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    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



    If your kid hit my Kid, I'd tell you to make your kid apologize to both of us and ask you to apologise to both of us too. I still wouldn't want either of you in my house even after you both apologized.

  6. #6
    good stock tip. Actually considering buying GEO. Over 90% of the prison population is in state prisons instead of federal prisons, and this EO has no effect on at the state level. It just says the federal DOJ won't renew contracts with private prisons.

    To actually get rid of all the private prisons they'd have to either build a lot of new ones, which would take decades, or buy out the private prisons. Either way it's not that bad for GEO.

  7. #7
    even in my most libertarian phase I never thought prison should be something private.

    then again, prison shouldn't exist. it's a terrible ineffective system of punishment. replace prison with corporal punishment if the person is fixable, exile or capital punishment if they are not.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by pepe View Post
    even in my most libertarian phase I never thought prison should be something private.

    then again, prison shouldn't exist. it's a terrible ineffective system of punishment. replace prison with corporal punishment if the person is fixable, exile or capital punishment if they are not.
    Nevermind... this board doesn't believe in God.
    Some say God doesn't believe in them either.
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  9. #9
    Originally Posted by pepe View Post
    replace prison with corporal punishment if the person is fixable, exile or capital punishment if they are not.
    Gulag !!

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by pepe View Post
    replace prison with corporal punishment if the person is fixable, exile or capital punishment if they are not.
    Gulag !!
    Thanks tableplay.
    Your post made me think of that scene in The Dark Knight Rises...
    "Very Well... Death by Exile!"


  11. #11
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by pepe View Post
    replace prison with corporal punishment if the person is fixable, exile or capital punishment if they are not.
    Gulag !!
    Thanks tableplay.
    Your post made me think of that scene in The Dark Knight Rises...
    "Very Well... Death by Exile!"
    No problem Monet. Thank you for the The Dark Knight Rises link. The ones with Christian Bale as Batman, such as this one you linked to, were very good I thought. It's fun to see look at the other judgements on the wheel (Beyond Thunderdome) besides Gulag such as "Auntie's Choice", "Death", "Hard Labor", "Underworld", "Life Imprisonment" and "Amputation". I would hope for amputation and then for a pinky or toe since leaving it up to Auntie is probably real real bad ;-)

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    No problem Monet. Thank you for the The Dark Knight Rises link. The ones with Christian Bale as Batman, such as this one you linked to, were very good I thought. It's fun to see look at the other judgements on the wheel (Beyond Thunderdome) besides Gulag such as "Auntie's Choice", "Death", "Hard Labor", "Underworld", "Life Imprisonment" and "Amputation". I would hope for amputation and then for a pinky or toe since leaving it up to Auntie is probably real real bad ;-)
    Funny you mention that because when I watched your clip I immediately kept pausing the wheel to read all the options.
    Forfeit Goods seemed like the one you would want to land on as long as it wasn't some sort of trick.
    I couldn't make all of them out so thanks for providing most of them.

  13. #13
    Private prisons is a counter productive business. Business wants repeat customers. Do we really want prisons designed to have their inmates reincarcerated in the future. I taught classes in prison to reduce recidivism. I was approached by inmates returning from a private prison in Colorado to teach my classes. They were the instructors and had a prison staffer observe the class. The inmates ran the prison. A student of mine told me about a call he got from his colorado incarcerated brother on a cell phone. A native Alaskan prison gang formed because they were small in stature and being housed with Polynesians in Arizona because, hey, they're all indigenous. A number of inmates who actually need help to make it in the world will just hide to minimize victimization. When Alaska canceled the Colarado prison contract, returning inmates caused a lot of problems trying to control Ak prisons and bribe guards. The private prison industry pays managers well, but line staff work for low wages. The gangsters love private prisons because they own the place. Whatever issues people enter these prisons with only get worse. Many states have gotten tired of people leaving prison, committing new crimes, and being reincarcerated. It turns out that you can actually do habilitating prison programing if you invest in it and don't want your inmates returning.
    Last edited by wasilla; 06-04-2021 at 12:58 AM.

  14. #14
    Just found that it was also introduced in the 114th Congress.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...bill/6113/text

    And again in 2021 with the 117th Congress. INTRODUCED.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-...sed&format=txt

    That's all thats ever been done with no word from the Senate. Ever since this clown show started in 2016. All thats ever been done is have a bill INTRODUCED. This is why it's so important to NOT be a droned out retard. You hear your puppet president make a fake dictator statement that everyone thinks is gospel but thats not how this country is run. Its all a smokescreen and private prisons are going no where.

    They tried in the 114th Congress

    They tried in the 115th Congress

    They tried in the 116th Congress

    Now they're trying one more time in the 117th Congress. The previous bills have been CLEARED. A bill will be cleared 2 years after being introduced. This next one will be cleared also. Why hasn't the Senate taken any action yet? Dont you think they would have by now? Wake up. Im investing heavy into this. Politicis crack me up. The idiots who dont understand anything about law in this country get promised by a fake dictator for 'change'. The so called dictator makes a speech for 'change' to SAVE FACE, then a bill gets introduced and nothing gets done and he walks away LOL. This is how you get an edge in the market. 99.9% of the public actually thinks private prisons are at risk. You got billion dollar institutions saying they wont lend out anymore money to private prisons either after the executive order. Either these big banks are as droned out like the public or are also SAVING FACE due to societal pressure. The end result is the same kids. NOTHING will happen to private prisons. Once all the societal pressure goes away and GEO keeps on killing earnings, this price will triple back to where it was. Enjoy it while it's at 15-year lows. Welcome to politics. Just like black people, drones in general stay getting manipulated by the box in their living room and doomsday headlines that have no legal significance. Stay ignorant people and thank me later in 3 years when this triples.
    Last edited by ZenKinG; 06-06-2021 at 06:08 PM.

  15. #15
    Also if you want the percentage of successfully passed bills from the 93rd Congress in 1973 to the 116th Congress in 2019, the amount of successfull bills that passed in Congress is around 3-4%. THREE to FOUR PERCENT. Private Prisons have a 96%-97% chance of not losing any of their federal contracts with the government. NINETY SIX TO NINETY SEVEN PERCENT. You read that right. Id even say its higher than that when you look at the amount of times they have tried to introduce a bill and nothing ever gets done.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/statistics

    The previous bills in the 114th, 115th, and 116th Congress NEVER even got a vote. It didn't even pass the simple majority of 218 votes of 435 to move to the senate hahahaha. Oh man. Just be glad im here that's all. This is up there with the amount of beaten down stocks in March of 2020 when covid hit. All that has happened is the drone sponsor representative from NJ's 12th Congressional District, Bonnie Coleman introduced a bill, but it doesnt even get a vote. It wont even get to the Senate, let alone pass a simple majority. Oh man.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/hr1206
    Last edited by ZenKinG; 06-06-2021 at 07:07 PM.

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by ZenKinG View Post
    Just be glad I'm here that's all. First off, the ignorance of the public not even knowing what an executive order is in this country cracks me up. An executive order is not some law created out of thin air. For it to be valid there needs to be an EXISTING law passed by CONGRESS that allows whatever the puppet fake dictator president preaches in his little so called 'orders'. My legal knowledge has already paid off dividends with the legality of trespassing in casinos and me returning every time without repercussions. Every idiot before me including so called expert lawyers like Nersesian said casinos could trespass you at will. Yeah, they can trespass at you will alright. I would've been arrested by now and not trespassed 500 times and backed off 500 times. Oh and guess what, it's the same for Indian casinos, which I'll save for another day cause I already dug up the legality of that. The horror stories in Indian casinos is once again because of ignorance and lack of cases on the books due to everyone being a retard. Ignorance is at an all time high in this retarded society. Glad I did my own research, but now it's about to pay off even more with investments in one of the major private prison companies that's being shorted to death and is one of the highest shorted stocks on the market today. I've never seen a company with their valuation metrics and this high of a short ration and short interest. But let me not digress, let me explain why. All you little drones suggest you take notes once again.

    After further research on congressional approval of ending private prison contracts with the federal government, I came across two separate times it was INTRODUCED in the House. Once in 2017 and once in 2019. It was NEVER passed to date. Want proof? Here you go drones. First time it was introduced was by the 115th Congress in 2017. Then again by the next congress, the 116th Congress. No where is there any update on what the Senate did with this bill. No where in Title 18 is there an updated code section for 4015. ZERO.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...ouse-bill/3844

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...0/text?r=3&s=1

    These are BILLS people. INTRODUCED in the House and given to the Senate for approval. Nothing was PASSED. Legislation was never passed. No updates. NOTHING. This Biden so called 'order' is nothing but sugarcoated garbage to please the idiot Democrats who voted for him and to save face as soon as he gets in office. Nothing ever gets done and you want to know why? Because Presidents don't make the laws in this country. They promise all this garbage cause they know idiots don't understand anything about law in this country and what it takes for a law to pass and further don't even know what an executive order actually entails. Then they get into office, make a little speech and go on with their life inside a white mansion for the next 4 years. This happens all the time with presidents. People think presidents are some magical dictators in this country cause everyone's a droned out retard in this country and why the IRS gets away with raping every retard out there.

    The Biden executive order is not even LEGISLATION. These private prison stocks have been beaten down so badly to a pulp. GEO Group is trading for a third of their intrinsic value due to all this retarded chaos caused by ignorance. Biden's executive order won't do anything. And if you actually read the most recent proposed bill to end private prisons, Federal Correction Facilities bannings with private prisons will only start SIX years after it ever passes, which is probably never as there hasn't been an update for years on this Act of Congress. Go read it for yourself. For Federal Community Confinement Facilities, it's EIGHT years. 6-8 years IF it's ever even passed. Do you realize that's basically two presidential terms, which can have a republican back in office to calm the drones fears from the Democrats bluff, even though republican or Democrat doesn't mean shit if there's no act of congress even on the books to begin with.

    Because of all this negative sentiment, GEO had to pull their dividend for cash preservation to service the debt. All this so called pressure from the federal govt cause the CEO is a moron. Then you have financial banks who say they will not lend out to private prisons anymore. Lmao this is why I'm going to jump off my balcony. Everyone's a fucking retard. That includes so called 'experts', financial institutions, and hundred million dollar and billion dollar companies. The stock has been trashed and shorted to death due to ignorance. Even if there was a federal banning by the BOO and US Marshalls, it's about 30% of their revenues and they already diversified their company with all the negative pressure that has been built up for the past 4 years with the federal govt trying to end private prisons. This also doesn't affect their STATE contracts or their ICE contracts. They will still PRINT money with the other 70% of their business model and still have free cash flow. The big hiccup with all of this is their debt maturities in 2024 so everyone sold off due to this recent Biden scare, but that would've been mitigated due to the cash preservation by cutting the dividend. But guess what, there WONT be a fucking ban from the federal govt. It's all sugarcoated typical misinformed garbage from a so called dictator.

    Private Prisons are not going anywhere. Governments can't run shit well enough and overpopulations of criminals in the federal system won't allow them to regardless. It's a much needed service for society. There will be a short squeeze once this whole political charade is over with and GEO continues to beat on earnings and the drones realize nothing will happen to the 30% of potential revenue loss, GEO will climb back to the top and dominate their market together with it's other competitor CoreCivix. They run a duopoly with no competition. Common sense would have already told you though of what the fuck was the federal govt going to do with all the prisoners in the first place? Release them all? Release them where? Build new government run facilities from the ground up, because guess what, the federal government prisons are beyond overpopulated as it is. At the very worst they would have to lease the private real estate buildings from GEO and CoreCivix, which would mean big money for the companies. Now you know why none of this made sense because it's NEVER going to happen. Prisoners won't be released and buildings won't be created out of thin air and waste drone taxpayer's money. Why? There's no LAW on the fucking books.

    Thank me later dumass drones. The only risk here is a short term risk because the market in general is in a bubble, so short term every stock will get pulled down hard once this shit pops. Whether you want to buy now or wait for this shit to pop is up to you. Long term this is a winner. Talk to me in 2-5 years when all this garbage settles with your 200-300% gains.
    Thanks for the tip ZenGOAT

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  17. #17
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Thanks for the tip ZenGOAT
    Do you actually credit ZenGoat or the Reddit Horde??
    I guess that really doesn't matter as long as you get your money.

    The meme-stock craze has turned rental cars, video games and movie theaters into day traders over the past year.
    The fad took a darker turn Wednesday as the Reddit horde brought prisons into the mix.
    Retail traders drove shares of Geo Group Inc. up as much as 73%, even as the company struggles for survival in a world turning on private-prison operators.
    As of the close, Geo surged a record 38%.

    "Made $33,000 in my sleep thanks to $GEO"
    - Sixers in five @SoJerZ_ -

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Thanks for the tip ZenGOAT
    Do you actually credit ZenGoat or the Reddit Horde??
    I guess that really doesn't matter as long as you get your money.

    The meme-stock craze has turned rental cars, video games and movie theaters into day traders over the past year.
    The fad took a darker turn Wednesday as the Reddit horde brought prisons into the mix.
    Retail traders drove shares of Geo Group Inc. up as much as 73%, even as the company struggles for survival in a world turning on private-prison operators.
    As of the close, Geo surged a record 38%.

    "Made $33,000 in my sleep thanks to $GEO"
    - Sixers in five @SoJerZ_ -
    I don't know anything about Reddit. But Zengoat has been talking about prison stocks since before the upturn in price. May 25th to be exact.
    Last edited by MaxPen; 06-09-2021 at 11:52 PM.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    I don't know anything about Reddit. But Zengoat has been talking about prison stocks since before the upturn in price. May 25th to be exact.
    Oh I see what you are saying.
    ZenGoat is the genius and the Internet Dweebs are riding his coattails.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    I don't know anything about Reddit. But Zengoat has been talking about prison stocks since before the upturn in price. May 25th to be exact.
    Oh I see what you are saying.
    ZenGoat is the genius and the Internet Dweebs are riding his coattails.

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