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Thread: Kewlj's Fantasy Facts or Bullshit

  1. #81
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    MDawg wins about 80% of his max bets. Are you saying he's a liar? That's a suspending offense, dude.
    I don't know who that is. Sounds like a made up character in a made up James Bond thriller.

    And yes, of ALL the quirky and odd things and rules about Shackleford. You can say you don't beleive someone. But if you say "fiction" or making it up or sometimes even if that person complains about you saying you don't beleive, the great and powerful one decides that is calling someone a liar and suspendable offense. There is zero difference in saying you don't believe someone and "fiction" or making stuff up. The rules on that forum are a constant moving target.
    I've said this before, but basically the rules allow everyone to lie as much as they want. But if you call anyone a liar, that's against the rules. Well, Groucho Marx would have a hard time joining that club.

    It's absurd. The rules are subjective, based on personal interpretation of certain words, such as "trolling." Based on personal subjective whim, you can wind up with telling the truth defined as "trolling." Then you have everyone allowed to lie with impunity. Then you have calling anyone a liar reason for suspension.

    There's only one way for a forum to go with rules like that, and WoV going there.

    Appeals to rules and regs that are wholly subjective is just out and out nonsense. It's essentially a checkers club for people who think they are playing chess. I don't even know what to think, as some of the stuff that gets spouted is so naive.

  2. #82
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    But if you call anyone a liar, that's against the rules.
    You seem to be caught in your own cart & horse problem.

    You are allowed to question claims in an effort to show that the member is lying, but no need to call them a liar first.

    Once you demonstrate that someone is lying, then perhaps it's permitted to call them a liar.

    We'll find out about that if you ever prove that another member is lying.

    But you can't prove someone is lying with name-calling, silly poems, or repeatedly proclaiming "that's just not the way casinos work".

    If you are so hot and bothered about MDawg lying, then stop clowning around, take him up in his challenge, prove that he is lying, and then go right ahead and call him a liar.

    Your stubborn attitude is what's keeping you off that site.
    Last edited by coach belly; 07-18-2021 at 01:50 PM.

  3. #83
    For you members that aren't paying attention and are reading this thread.

    You just read excluding coach above 3 members just post 21 consecutive posts from their "click club" in a row. Kewlj, redietz, and Maxpad. I didn't count Mrv, since he's just a follow the leader type poster. (tag along) Every post was a DETOUR in protection from the facts that Kewlj who I'd like to rename Houdini and his L.Vegas fantasies are just that.

    Don't worry there is plenty more to come. Don't want to overload the thread without giving each quote a fair chance for endless deflection. We'll tally up later.

  4. #84
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    You are allowed to question claims in an effort to show that the member is lying, but no need to call them a liar first.

    Once you demonstrate that someone is lying, then perhaps it's permitted to call them a liar.
    I guess it depends on what you will accept as 'proof' of one lying.

    Let's just say someone claims the Montreal Canadians were gambling at the Wynn. BUT at the time claimed the Montreal Canadians were 2600 miles away in Montreal, under government imposed quarantine.

  5. #85
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    For you members that aren't paying attention and are reading this thread.

    You just read excluding coach above 3 members just post 21 consecutive posts from their "click club" in a row. Kewlj, redietz, and Maxpad. I didn't count Mrv, since he's just a follow the leader type poster. (tag along) Every post was a DETOUR in protection from the facts that Kewlj who I'd like to rename Houdini and his L.Vegas fantasies are just that.

    Don't worry there is plenty more to come. Don't want to overload the thread without giving each quote a fair chance for endless deflection. We'll tally up later.
    You are seriously retarted, blackhole. You are taking things out of context, twisting and flat out lying, as I predicted you would do. You are so stupid and uniformed on the topic you think you are scoring points when you are doing nothing but making a fool of yourself in everyone's eyes except Singer.

    I have answered every single one of your challenges in great detail, more than I probably should. But I am not going to continue to. Just no need. You are too stupid to even realize how badly you are doing and how ridiculous you look. Hint: Singer is your only....supporter I guess. Everyone else is just laughing AT you and how clueless you are.

  6. #86
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Let's just say someone claims the Montreal Canadians were gambling at the Wynn. BUT at the time claimed the Montreal Canadians were 2600 miles away in Montreal, under government imposed quarantine.
    My take on that MDawg post, was that he heard that the Canadiens were there, and repeated what he heard, or maybe what he thought he heard.

    He never wrote that he saw them there.

    Whoever told him may have been referring to retired players, or a Canadiens fan club.

    No big deal, he clearly was not lying...but you're still flipping out about it...and that's what makes you a tewl.

  7. #87
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I guess it depends on what you will accept as 'proof' of one lying.
    5 years of your Houdini postings on this forum alone should be enough evidence to convince anyone what a liar is.

  8. #88
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Let's just say someone claims the Montreal Canadians were gambling at the Wynn. BUT at the time claimed the Montreal Canadians were 2600 miles away in Montreal, under government imposed quarantine.
    My take on that MDawg post, was that he heard that the Canadiens were there, and repeated what he heard, or maybe what he thought he heard.

    He never wrote that he saw them there.

    Whoever told him may have been referring to retired players, or a Canadiens fan club.
    You are partially right. He id not say he saw them, but he continued to vouch for the credibility of Wynn dealers and employees that told him.....to this day after unequivically having been proven wrong! And that does make him a liar.

  9. #89
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You are seriously retarted, blackhole. You are taking things out of context, twisting and flat out lying, as I predicted you would do. You are so stupid and uniformed on the topic you think you are scoring points when you are doing nothing but making a fool of yourself in everyone's eyes except Singer.

    I have answered every single one of your challenges in great detail, more than I probably should. But I am not going to continue to. Just no need. You are too stupid to even realize how badly you are doing and how ridiculous you look. Hint: Singer is your only....supporter I guess. Everyone else is just laughing AT you and how clueless you are.
    Does this mean I'm going on ignore?

  10. #90
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I guess it depends on what you will accept as 'proof' of one lying.
    5 years of your Houdini postings on this forum alone should be enough evidence to convince anyone what a liar is.
    While I do engage in some (<- ) contraversial discussions, I will put my 5 years on this forum up against you 5 years (that I have been here) of nothing but trolling. I mean what does it say when the forum owner specifically calls YOU out as a troll, like he did you?

    And while this forum is...what it is, a lot of trolling and stuff, some good natured, some not so good natured, I am very confident the membership, even those not very fond of me, are smart enough to know the difference between the nonsense and the few serious discussion of blackjack card counting and AP play and can separarte the two out.

    But you know what, old bitter blackhole person, you do what you gotta do.

  11. #91
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    he continued to vouch for the credibility of Wynn dealers and employees that told him.....And that does make him a liar.
    Vouching for someone else does not make him a liar.

    As far as he and you know, the employees meant Canadians...not Canadiens.

    It's totally reasonable and believable that Canadiens fans were celebrating at the Wynn, and that's what MDawg was told.

    Your game is so weak, and that's what makes you a tewl.

  12. #92
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post

    Does this mean I'm going on ignore?
    I took you off ignore when you created a thread with my name in it, just screaming for my attention that you crave. I thought it might be fun to debate this, even know I knew you would not do so honestly. But quite frankly, I can't remember when I have been so disappointed. All fluff and absolutely zero substance.

    I am not saying this as a bust, but I absolutely feel bad for you that you have gone to all this and have nothing and actually are too stupid to realize you are making a complete fool of yourself again. I honestly feel like I am taking advantage of a retarted person or someone with dementia having set in.

    But like I said, you do what you gatta do.

    And let's just talk about what "ignore" really means. On this forum, putting someone on ignore does not guarantee you don't see their posts. You see then when someone quotes. You see them when you view the forum not logged in, which is the case when I view from my cell phone. Everyone with half a brain understands this, but only you think it is a big deal.

    So when someone say "I am putting someone on ignore", it basically means they don't find you worthy of responding to. That I even have to explain this to you is beyond sad....it really is.

  13. #93
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post

    Does this mean I'm going on ignore?
    I took you off ignore when you created a thread with my name in it, just screaming for my attention that you crave. I thought it might be fun to debate this, even know I knew you would not do so honestly. But quite frankly, I can't remember when I have been so disappointed. All fluff and absolutely zero substance.

    I am not saying this as a bust, but I absolutely feel bad for you that you have gone to all this and have nothing and actually are too stupid to realize you are making a complete fool of yourself again. I honestly feel like I am taking advantage of a retarted person or someone with dementia having set in.

    But like I said, you do what you gatta do.

    And let's just talk about what "ignore" really means. On this forum, putting someone on ignore does not guarantee you don't see their posts. You see then when someone quotes. You see them when you view the forum not logged in, which is the case when I view from my cell phone. Everyone with half a brain understands this, but only you think it is a big deal.

    So when someone say "I am putting someone on ignore", it basically means they don't find you worthy of responding to. That I even have to explain this to you is beyond sad....it really is.
    Really Kewlj, is this what your DETOURING has been reduced to???

    Stay tuned...

  14. #94
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    he continued to vouch for the credibility of Wynn dealers and employees that told him.....And that does make him a liar.
    Vouching for someone else does not make him a liar.

    As far as he and you know, the employees meant Canadians...not Canadiens.

    It's totally reasonable and believable that Canadiens fans were celebrating at the Wynn, and that's what MDawg was told.

    Your game is so weak, and that's what makes you a tewl.
    The quote from post #1 of the celebrity sightings threads was that the Vegas Golden Knights were gambling at the Wynn this past weekend and "Unbeknownst to either team, the Montreal Canadiens were in the back area at a private table gambling at the same time". He didn't say, he heard, or someone told him....he stated it as fact. He also didn't say ex-Montreal Canadian Players or fan club. That is revisionist bullshit, on your part. Only later after I made know that the Montreal Canadians were in Montreal under government ordered quarantine at the time, did Mdawg start backtracking claiming second hand info.

    Here's the part where it becomes fair game to call him a liar. He then doubled down later that day June 28, the next day June 29, when he called it a fact that both teams were there and YET again on July 5 saying higher up employees had confirmed that both teams were there. This doubling down after having been proven wrong is not just lying, it is delusional. And that seems to be the real problem on these forums. There are a handful of people that are just not grounded in reality and you making excuses at this point seems to be you making your case for that club.

  15. #95
    Almost as sad as feeling the need to take the time to do it. (Explaining it to BH)

    Wise up.

    Don’t you get it?

    In these last days, Blackhole can only find joy in bringing annoyance and irritation to others. It’s really all he has. I don’t need to know his situation to come to this conclusion as his posting tone alone makes it obvious.

    You should pity Blackhole, as I do. I feel sorry for him. That you feel the need to defend yourself against any except the absolute most vile or baseless accusations is borderline incomprehensible to me. He called you a liar, so what?

    Why should you care what his opinion is? It would be like me worrying about what a blind dog that’s going to die of old age any day thinks of me. A mean blind dog, at that. You try to feed him or scratch him and he tries to take your hand off.

    Whatever happened to lead you to this state, Blackhole, I’m truly sorry.

    Poor son of a bitch.

  16. #96
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    he continued to vouch for the credibility of Wynn dealers and employees that told him.....And that does make him a liar.
    Vouching for someone else does not make him a liar.

    As far as he and you know, the employees meant Canadians...not Canadiens.

    It's totally reasonable and believable that Canadiens fans were celebrating at the Wynn, and that's what MDawg was told.

    Your game is so weak, and that's what makes you a tewl.
    The quote from post #1 of the celebrity sightings threads was that the Vegas Golden Knights were gambling at the Wynn this past weekend and "Unbeknownst to either team, the Montreal Canadiens were in the back area at a private table gambling at the same time". He didn't say, he heard, or someone told him....he stated it as fact. He also didn't say ex-Montreal Canadian Players or fan club. That is revisionist bullshit, on your part. Only later after I made know that the Montreal Canadians were in Montreal under government ordered quarantine at the time, did Mdawg start backtracking claiming second hand info.

    Here's the part where it becomes fair game to call him a liar. He then doubled down later that day June 28, the next day June 29, when he called it a fact that both teams were there and YET again on July 5 saying higher up employees had confirmed that both teams were there. This doubling down after having been proven wrong is not just lying, it is delusional. And that seems to be the real problem on these forums. There are a handful of people that are just not grounded in reality and you making excuses at this point seems to be you making your case for that club.
    I deserve some amount of credit for my part in ending that stupid line of discussion. I haven’t quite figured out what to do about this one just yet.

    THAT, I will happily take credit for.

  17. #97
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I deserve some amount of credit for my part in ending that stupid line of discussion. I haven’t quite figured out what to do about this one just yet.

    THAT, I will happily take credit for.
    How so? I don't see where you even participated after your Louie Anderson comment on the first page? Did you lobby for Wizard to move the thread to hidden or something?

  18. #98
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Almost as sad as feeling the need to take the time to do it. (Explaining it to BH)

    Wise up.

    Don’t you get it?

    In these last days, Blackhole can only find joy in bringing annoyance and irritation to others. It’s really all he has. I don’t need to know his situation to come to this conclusion as his posting tone alone makes it obvious.

    You should pity Blackhole, as I do. I feel sorry for him. That you feel the need to defend yourself against any except the absolute most vile or baseless accusations is borderline incomprehensible to me. He called you a liar, so what?

    Why should you care what his opinion is? It would be like me worrying about what a blind dog that’s going to die of old age any day thinks of me. A mean blind dog, at that. You try to feed him or scratch him and he tries to take your hand off.

    Whatever happened to lead you to this state, Blackhole, I’m truly sorry.

    Poor son of a bitch.
    A blind dog? What a stupid fucking analogy

  19. #99
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    saying higher up employees had confirmed that both teams were there.
    You have no evidence that his statement above is a lie...for all you know, that is what was confirmed.

    You seem to have a problem understanding what a lie is.

    Is this a lie?

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I disagree with Axelwolf! First he likely is already a "secret Mod.

  20. #100
    KewlJ,

    Participated!? Based on flights from Las Vegas to Montreal, I proved they couldn’t have been there that weekend. It might have been in a different thread, but substantially similar specific subjects seem to sometimes show up in seemingly unrelated threads when certain posters are involved.

    Keystone,

    The subject matter wasn’t worth thinking up a good analogy. You want the same post with a better analogy? You may PM me for my writing rates.

    It was only kind of an analogy, anyway. The point was it would be like worrying what some lesser creature thinks of me.

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