Kewlj's Fantasy Facts or Bullshit

[kewlJ]

Almost as sad as feeling the need to take the time to do it. (Explaining it to BH)

Wise up.

Don’t you get it?

In these last days, Blackhole can only find joy in bringing annoyance and irritation to others. It’s really all he has. I don’t need to know his situation to come to this conclusion as his posting tone alone makes it obvious.

You should pity Blackhole, as I do. I feel sorry for him. That you feel the need to defend yourself against any except the absolute most vile or baseless accusations is borderline incomprehensible to me. He called you a liar, so what?

Why should you care what his opinion is? It would be like me worrying about what a blind dog that’s going to die of old age any day thinks of me. A mean blind dog, at that. You try to feed him or scratch him and he tries to take your hand off.

Whatever happened to lead you to this state, Blackhole, I’m truly sorry.

Poor son of a bitch.

I do pity blackhole AND SINGER. I honestly do. But that doesn't mean I am going to allow them to lie about me, my career and what I have accomplished (of what I am proud of).

Maybe it is my fault for participating here on a forum like this, in the first place. I accept that. But I also participate on a serious blackjack forum, with serious blackjack players of all levels. No it's not Norms site where I had a very high helpful rating, but blackjackinfo with much less traffic these days. And I get private message fairly regularly at that forum as well as by email from players with questions and asking advice. And multiple times a year someone will publicly thank me for helping them.

Now recently on another forum, one that I used to participate at and now occasionally post something, I responded to a question from a newer player about card counting. And the response was something like "well I heard you are a fake anyway". So my point is it does go to credibilty. These guys like blackhole and Singer, lately Mdawg and even Moses to some degree are out to discredit me. So you ask "so what" why do I care? That is why.

[coach belly]

Based on flights from Las Vegas to Montreal, I proved they couldn’t have been there that weekend.

What about charters or private planes? Do you have access to those flight logs?

The quote doesn't say that ALL of the Montreal Canadiens were there.

[Mission146]

Don’t pity Singer, Singer’s doing fine. He’s just a self-righteous prick. Blackhole wishes he were Rob Singer.

They, “Heard you were a fake?” Good, tell them they can go right on ahead and disregard what you said, to be immediately followed by fucking themselves and eventually a meaningless death.

Singer goes weeks without posting sometimes. That alone tells me he’s fine.

[redietz]

But if you call anyone a liar, that's against the rules.

You seem to be caught in your own cart & horse problem.

You are allowed to question claims in an effort to show that the member is lying, but no need to call them a liar first.

Once you demonstrate that someone is lying, then perhaps it's permitted to call them a liar.

We'll find out about that if you ever prove that another member is lying.

But you can't prove someone is lying with name-calling, silly poems, or repeatedly proclaiming "that's just not the way casinos work".

If you are so hot and bothered about MDawg lying, then stop clowning around, take him up in his challenge, prove that he is lying, and then go right ahead and call him a liar.

Your stubborn attitude is what's keeping you off that site.

Really, coach? You have more brains than that. Don't play dumb blond. Don't be a hypocrite.

What would your response be if I said I could show you sports book won/loss statements for a year that "proved" I won x amount? You'd cut the argument that those statements "prove I win" to shreds in 10 seconds.

Shackleford made a call. He could have somebody like MDawg on the site, or he could have somebody who has called out gambling nonsense for 40 years. He made his decision.

[redietz]

Based on flights from Las Vegas to Montreal, I proved they couldn’t have been there that weekend.

What about charters or private planes? Do you have access to those flight logs?

The quote doesn't say that ALL of the Montreal Canadiens were there.

See, this is why coach's posts are hypocritical junk. He's play acting at troll. There is no way on God's green earth he believes any of that.

[Mission146]

Based on flights from Las Vegas to Montreal, I proved they couldn’t have been there that weekend.

What about charters or private planes? Do you have access to those flight logs?

The quote doesn't say that ALL of the Montreal Canadiens were there.

You may find the post which contained all of my sources, including charters and private planes.

They would have to have won the series ending game in Montreal, flown to Vegas on some flight that didn’t get documented the following day only to fly BACK to Montreal essentially hours after that to make Sunday morning practice which was followed by the flight down to Tampa.

[Mission146]

And, not to let MDawg off the hook, but whoever told him that was probably just making up bullshit that he passed along as if it were fact.

[kewlJ]

saying higher up employees had confirmed that both teams were there.

You have no evidence that his statement above is a lie...for all you know, that is what was confirmed.

You seem to have a problem understanding what a lie is.

Is this a lie?

the first time in the last 15 months that a canadian team was allowed to leave Canada and play in the United states was when the Canadians played the Golden Knights in the playoffs. The canadian Government issued a statement that the Montral Canadians would be under strict quarantine rule while in Las vegas and back home in Montreal, consisting of no outside contact. The National Hockey league issued a statement saying the Montreal Canadians would be held to this agreement with the Canadian government and in order to play in the Stanley cup finals would remain in strict quarentine protacol. these statements were official statements on Canadian Government and NHL websites.

So are you seriously suggesting as Mdawg did that after Game 6 win in Montreal winning the series, the Montreal Canadian hockey team, broke government and NHL agreed protocal, to fly to Las vegas and gamble at the Wynn, when they weren't even scheduled to play in Las Vegas (Series was over). A trip which would have disqualified any players from playing in the Stanley cup finals according to agreement. I just want to be clear....is that what you are claiming coach? You have officially mjumped on the lying at all costs bandwagon?

[coach belly]

What would your response be if I said I could show you sports book won/loss statements for a year that "proved" I won x amount?

I would suggest that you show them...but you never would, so then the cutting to shreds would commence.

But not because I didn't believe you, but because you claimed that you could show them, and then would not.

MDawg will show you whatever you need to be convinced that he has won as claimed, but you're not interested...that wouldn't fit your narrative.

[kewlJ]

You may find the post which contained all of my sources, including charters and private planes.

They would have to have won the series ending game in Montreal, flown to Vegas on some flight that didn’t get documented the following day only to fly BACK to Montreal essentially hours after that to make Sunday morning practice which was followed by the flight down to Tampa.

Ok, I did read that. Good job. But it is not just the logistics of it, which you pointed out. They would have violated Canda's govenment imposed protocal and been ineligle for the Stanley Cup Finals. While that may not be a big deal to you or me, for every hockey player it is a once or twice in a lifetime opprtunity. It is what they PLAY for. They were going to throw all that away to go to vegas for a night, when 2 weeks later, win or lose, they could have gone to vegas any time they desired. Mdawgs claim was just perposterous, as they all are. This one he just got caught.

[redietz]

Let's just say someone claims the Montreal Canadians were gambling at the Wynn. BUT at the time claimed the Montreal Canadians were 2600 miles away in Montreal, under government imposed quarantine.

My take on that MDawg post, was that he heard that the Canadiens were there, and repeated what he heard, or maybe what he thought he heard.

He never wrote that he saw them there.

Whoever told him may have been referring to retired players, or a Canadiens fan club.

No big deal, he clearly was not lying...but you're still flipping out about it...and that's what makes you a tewl.

He wasn't lying. LOL. He was bullshitting.

MDawg knew nothing about who was going to play when, so when he heard something that may have been past tense (as in weeks ago) or was some pit boss yanking his chain (I can see that), he reported it as "inside info" from his pals in the high limit room. And then it turns out to be ridiculously, blatantly wrong, but he can't back down from his inside info angle, so he continues arguing the point.

I thought, initially, that the game had been in Las Vegas Thursday night, so there was some chance (with a morning flight) that some may have gotten a private room for a couple hours to blow their playoff series winnings. But no, I was corrected by DRich, I think. The game had been in Montreal.

There was zero chance a table full of Canadiens were playing over the weekend in Las Vegas. The idea was completely asinine. Now I'm not aware of any Dennis Rodman types on the Canadiens roster, but a table full? Puh-leese. As much chance of that as Belushi's GPA in Animal House.

The problem wasn't that MDawg was lying. He got caught posting something wrong as rain that he heard from someone else, and he couldn't get "I was wrong" or "they were wrong" out of his keyboard. I call that bullshitting. MDawg's a fine bullshitter.

[Mission146]

You may find the post which contained all of my sources, including charters and private planes.

They would have to have won the series ending game in Montreal, flown to Vegas on some flight that didn’t get documented the following day only to fly BACK to Montreal essentially hours after that to make Sunday morning practice which was followed by the flight down to Tampa.

Ok, I did read that. Good job. But it is not just the logistics of it, which you pointed out. They would have violated Canda's govenment imposed protocal and been ineligle for the Stanley Cup Finals. While that may not be a big deal to you or me, for every hockey player it is a once or twice in a lifetime opprtunity. It is what they PLAY for. They were going to throw all that away to go to vegas for a night, when 2 weeks later, win or lose, they could have gone to vegas any time they desired. Mdawgs claim was just perposterous, as they all are. This one he just got caught.

(Sigh)

It is the logistics because no planes went to/from Las Vegas to Montreal during any of the applicable times. All of the other stuff you just said is secondary to that. My source was such that you could search any airport in Vegas or Montreal, or perhaps I should say, one of my sources.

That’s what makes it proof. What you said is speculation, good speculation, logical and sensible speculation, speculation I would never dispute…but still speculation.

[coach belly]

You may find the post which contained all of my sources, including charters and private planes.

What do you mean sources?...some anonymous forum?

But you don't know what the employees meant anyway...how many players, which players, scratched players, retired players, or simply a fan club that are called Montreal Canadians.

You didn't follow up with MDawg, but keep at it if it's so important to you.

You may be an educated man, but I'm afraid you can't speak intelligently about the travel habits of every person associated with the Montreal Canadiens. What you do know is that MDawg reported that someone associated with the team was gambling in the back room at Wynn that night.

[coach belly]

And, not to let MDawg off the hook, but whoever told him that was probably just making up bullshit that he passed along as if it were fact.

Would MDawg have been lying if he did that?

[redietz]

And, not to let MDawg off the hook, but whoever told him that was probably just making up bullshit that he passed along as if it were fact.

Exactly. Can you imagine being a pit boss or dealer who deals with the Dawg for any length of time? Of course you'd yank his chain on occasion. And then, if you happened to find out he was posting his insider tales for the proletariat, you'd pass along all kinds of nonsense to see if any of it made it into print. It'd be fun.

[coach belly]

So are you seriously suggesting as Mdawg did that after Game 6 win in Montreal winning the series, the Montreal Canadian hockey team, broke government and NHL agreed protocal

Nobody is suggesting that the Montreal Canadiens hockey team did that.

What I'm suggesting is that MDawg accepted and repeated was told to him by Wynn employees, and that does not qualify as a him lying.

[Mission146]

You may find the post which contained all of my sources, including charters and private planes.

What do you mean sources?...some anonymous forum?

But you don't know what the employees meant anyway...how many players, which players, scratched players, retired players, or simply a fan club that are called Montreal Canadians.

You didn't follow up with MDawg, but keep at it if it's so important to you.

You may be an educated man, but I'm afraid you can't speak intelligently about the travel habits of every person associated with the Montreal Canadiens. What you do know is that MDawg reported that someone associated with the team was gambling in the back room at Wynn that night.

Sources. Your Mom told me. I did what I did to end that stupid discussion, not to continue it elsewhere.

You’ll forgive me for not reading past the first sentence. Apologies if something unrelated was somewhere in there.

[Mission146]

And, not to let MDawg off the hook, but whoever told him that was probably just making up bullshit that he passed along as if it were fact.

Would MDawg have been lying if he did that?

Nobody has ever lied about anything. Or maybe everything ever said is a lie. What fucking difference does it make?

[redietz]

You may find the post which contained all of my sources, including charters and private planes.

What do you mean sources?...some anonymous forum?

But you don't know what the employees meant anyway...how many players, which players, scratched players, retired players, or simply a fan club that are called Montreal Canadians.

You didn't follow up with MDawg, but keep at it if it's so important to you.

You may be an educated man, but I'm afraid you can't speak intelligently about the travel habits of every person associated with the Montreal Canadiens. What you do know is that MDawg reported that someone associated with the team was gambling in the back room at Wynn that night.

Exactly, coach. The employee was talking about the hookers who travel with the team and call themselves Canadi-Annes. They flew in for the weekend, and it was those hookers wearing jerseys with players' names on them that enabled the casino employees to honestly report, "A table full of Canadi-Annes were playing in a private room."

And, to be precise here coach, by "playing" the employees may have meant "banging the hell out of."

So MDawg was completely correct, as were the employees. They weren't lying at all. Or bullshitting.

One can only imagine what coach means when he says he "gambles" occasionally. Or that he gets "free play." LOL.

[Mission146]

And, not to let MDawg off the hook, but whoever told him that was probably just making up bullshit that he passed along as if it were fact.

Exactly. Can you imagine being a pit boss or dealer who deals with the Dawg for any length of time? Of course you'd yank his chain on occasion. And then, if you happened to find out he was posting his insider tales for the proletariat, you'd pass along all kinds of nonsense to see if any of it made it into print. It'd be fun.

Shit! I didn’t even contemplate the possibility of intent!