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Thread: Kewlj's Fantasy Facts or Bullshit

  1. #141
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post


    This is GREAT! These two idiots, Singer and Blackhole have climbed aboard the Moses bandwagon in an effort to discredit me.

    I don't want to reopen a feud with Moses but he plays blackjack in Reno, playing the single deck game and how he claims to play is very different than I or any other professional lackjck player plays. He gets a round or two in at his max bet at a time before shuffle. He can't possible understand what it is like to get to your max bet early in a 6 deck shoe and play 30-40 max bet rounds in a row before the shoe ends and either win the majority or lose the majority of those max bets for a big winning or losing shoe. He can't possible understand what it is like to get to your max bet early in a 6 deck shoe and play 30-40 max bet rounds in a row before the shoe ends and either win the majority or lose the majority of those max bets for a big winning or losing shoe. Moses just never has understood the variance associated with 6 or 8 deck blackjack play.

    Now that said moses is speculating all kinds of goofy shit. For instance he keeps referring to 8 deck game, when I was playing 6 deck the day I had the 20k win. He keeps referring to a $450 max bet when my max bet is normally $400, but on that day because the count got so high and I knew my cover was blown, I went to what I call my supermax bet above the normal max bet. This may seem contradictory as per staying under the radaar, but at the point you aren't under the radar, so you win as much as you can before being backed off.

    None of this is new. This was all talked about 10 years ago in posts at both WoV and blackjackinfo describing this incident. Try searching "perfect shoe" at either forum.

    Moses is also mixing up a $20k winning shoe with a $20k losing shoe as he is talking about needing to lose almost every hand for a $20k losing shoe. I never had a 20k losing shoe, so I have no idea. I had a 20k losing day ONCE, but it was over 4 different casinos and I don't even know how many shoes.


    So it is just funny as hell that these two nitwits who obviosly know nothing of blackjack advantage play, have latched onto a single deck player from Reno, who similarly knows nothing of 6 and 8 deck blackjack play as their savior in discrediting me. In short these two nitwits, floundering in the water, have climbed into a rowboat with a hole in the bottom to feel safe. Have fun boys.

    KewlJ, you just stated that your normal max bet is $400 okay so let's go with that amount even though you often state that your max bet is $500. In this thread, you have stated that your "starting the day"with your playing bank is between $8K and $10K and that you very rarely if ever have the need to replenish session funds. I am finding these statements of yours extremely difficult to believe as well as to comprehend considering the above statements you made. In reference to Moses you just stated which is worth repeating again.

    "He can't possible understand what it is like to get to your max bet early in a 6 deck shoe and play 30-40 max bet rounds in a row before the shoe ends and either win the majority or lose the majority of those max bets for a big winning or losing shoe. Moses just never has understood the variance associated with 6 or 8 deck blackjack play."

    Evidently, it is you who does not understand the variance associated with shoe play! Without a doubt, it is impossible to guarantee that in heads up play "obvious that it is heads up play you reference to get between 30 and 40 max bets in a row" that you are properly funded to finish the shoe considering your playing bank and betting levels. You often ridicule these board members left and right while openly calling yourself a professional player, which I find astounding. Making just one max bet can lead up to eight times the money bet with splits and doubles and you are betting at just over 200% what is considered optimal and practical betting levels "by your playing bank" by two of the best math guys in the business Don Schlesinger and Norm Wattenberger. One thing you never want to face is having to leave a positive EV situation because of a lack of funds at hand to which I have never had to do.

    On a side note, my lack of posting is due to myself playing many more hours at the tables over the last two months. I am on a real nice positive variance run "meaningless" from returning to play after receiving my covid shots.
    I don't quite see it that way, Bosox. KJ's playing bankroll is much larger than what he is bringing in. The chance that he would run out of money in a plus EV situation is small. And it's not the end of the world if he walks in a plus EV situation. I do it all the time when I'm tired of working. Plus EV can always be found again.

    Mickey, having to leave a positive position in blackjack because of lack of playing funds is considered a Cardinal Sin in the blackjack world of knowledgeable players. However, I strongly suspect that KJ is smartly fibbing about the amount of money that he brings to the casino for fear of possible assault and robbery. Maybe it's just that I have heard these following lines way too much.

    Vegas is not about the quality of games but the quantity of games at casinos. I suppose this also applies to thieves and thievery.
    Last edited by BoSox; 07-19-2021 at 08:52 AM.

  2. #142
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    KewlJ, you just stated that your normal max bet is $400 okay so let's go with that amount even though you often state that your max bet is $500. In this thread, you have stated that your "starting the day"with your playing bank is between $8K and $10K and that you very rarely if ever have the need to replenish session funds. I am finding these statements of yours extremely difficult to believe as well as to comprehend considering the above statements you made. In reference to Moses you just stated which is worth repeating again.

    "He can't possible understand what it is like to get to your max bet early in a 6 deck shoe and play 30-40 max bet rounds in a row before the shoe ends and either win the majority or lose the majority of those max bets for a big winning or losing shoe. Moses just never has understood the variance associated with 6 or 8 deck blackjack play."

    Evidently, it is you who does not understand the variance associated with shoe play! Without a doubt, it is impossible to guarantee that in heads up play "obvious that it is heads up play you reference to get between 30 and 40 max bets in a row" that you are properly funded to finish the shoe considering your playing bank and betting levels. You often ridicule these board members left and right while openly calling yourself a professional player, which I find astounding. Making just one max bet can lead up to eight times the money bet with splits and doubles and you are betting at just over 200% what is considered optimal and practical betting levels "by your playing bank" by two of the best math guys in the business Don Schlesinger and Norm Wattenberger. One thing you never want to face is having to leave a positive EV situation because of a lack of funds at hand to which I have never had to do.

    On a side note, my lack of posting is due to myself playing many more hours at the tables over the last two months. I am on a real nice positive variance run "meaningless" from returning to play after receiving my covid shots.
    Good morning Bosox. I was thinking just yesterday that we hadn't heard from you for a while and hoping you were ok. Playing a lot and being on a "nice positive variance run" is a wonderful reason for not posting as much so congrats to you. Keep it up.

    I am heading out myself shortly and not going to be engaging in back and forth all day, so may not follow up.

    I am not going to confirm nor deny what funds I leave the house with for a day of local play. I have done too much of that kind of thing and not going to compound that mistake. While a cardinal mistake to be short funded and have to walk away from a strong +EV count, I do balance that against the risk of robbery. I think anyone who has been robbed has to have a little bit of that mindset.

    Mickey is correct, in that I don't consider what funds I bring out as my playing bankroll as far as the formulas. I have specifically made arrangements with two different banks for higher ATM withdrawl amounts so that I can replenish a limited amount on the fly, plus the option to replenish even more inside the bank (if it is banking hours) or at my home. I rarely have the need or like to do that second bigger "replenish".

    Now any replenish won't help if I run out of funds at the table. Heads up play is great when I can get it, but not all that common and truth be told I prefer one other player for unrelated reason related to my aggressive exits. And while playing heads up at a 6 deck game will result in 45-50 rounds, not all will be max bet. It takes at least a few rounds to get to max bet and if you are fortunate enough to get to an early max bet count with 30+ rounds left, it would be pretty extreme to loss ALL or nearly all of those hands to be left short funded. That is what it would take.

    So while yes, cardinal rule and all, I have a compromise position that I am comfortable with.

    The other thing is my max bet. Having read my contributions for many years, you should know I play a variety of spreads and max bets, depending on circumstances and what I perceive the tolerance/comfort level to be at any given time. In short this means different spreads and max bets, for different casinos as well as the same casino at different times. So there is no uniform max bet. BUT, if I am not playing on a weekend or higher end casino (strip), a common strategy I use is to stay below a key threshold of $500. $500 always attracks more attention on the floor and above than $450 or $400. So I have never said my max bet is $500. You must have mis-interpreted something. I either stay just below $500 or if I am playing a game I feel I can go above, I go well above. Those days are pre-planed and I bring the appropriate funds.

    Hope this answers you questions Bosox. Have a good day and continue on that good path.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 07-19-2021 at 09:32 AM.

  3. #143
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I don't quite see it that way, Bosox. KJ's playing bankroll is much larger than what he is bringing in. The chance that he would run out of money in a plus EV situation is small. And it's not the end of the world if he walks in a plus EV situation. I do it all the time when I'm tired of working. Plus EV can always be found again.
    One more ( I hope I can make it quick) thing. I have to agree with mickey here. For a traditional card counter, maybe drives and hour to a casino, spends an hour counting through several shoes before he gets to that really good plus count, +EV shoe, the last thing he wasn't to do is get caught short changed and walk from a +EV situation that it took so long to get to.

    My situation of Vegas and quanity of games is a little different. I see and get to frequent strong count, +EV situations. So while no one wants to walk away, it isn't quite as big a deal for me if I have to. There will be others.

  4. #144
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post




    KewlJ, you just stated that your normal max bet is $400 okay so let's go with that amount even though you often state that your max bet is $500. In this thread, you have stated that your "starting the day"with your playing bank is between $8K and $10K and that you very rarely if ever have the need to replenish session funds. I am finding these statements of yours extremely difficult to believe as well as to comprehend considering the above statements you made. In reference to Moses you just stated which is worth repeating again.

    "He can't possible understand what it is like to get to your max bet early in a 6 deck shoe and play 30-40 max bet rounds in a row before the shoe ends and either win the majority or lose the majority of those max bets for a big winning or losing shoe. Moses just never has understood the variance associated with 6 or 8 deck blackjack play."

    Evidently, it is you who does not understand the variance associated with shoe play! Without a doubt, it is impossible to guarantee that in heads up play "obvious that it is heads up play you reference to get between 30 and 40 max bets in a row" that you are properly funded to finish the shoe considering your playing bank and betting levels. You often ridicule these board members left and right while openly calling yourself a professional player, which I find astounding. Making just one max bet can lead up to eight times the money bet with splits and doubles and you are betting at just over 200% what is considered optimal and practical betting levels "by your playing bank" by two of the best math guys in the business Don Schlesinger and Norm Wattenberger. One thing you never want to face is having to leave a positive EV situation because of a lack of funds at hand to which I have never had to do.

    On a side note, my lack of posting is due to myself playing many more hours at the tables over the last two months. I am on a real nice positive variance run "meaningless" from returning to play after receiving my covid shots.
    I don't quite see it that way, Bosox. KJ's playing bankroll is much larger than what he is bringing in. The chance that he would run out of money in a plus EV situation is small. And it's not the end of the world if he walks in a plus EV situation. I do it all the time when I'm tired of working. Plus EV can always be found again.

    Mickey, having to leave a positive position in blackjack because of lack of playing funds is considered a Cardinal Sin in the blackjack world of knowledgeable players. However, I strongly suspect that KJ is smartly fibbing about the amount of money that he brings to the casino for fear of possible assault and robbery. Maybe it's just that I have heard these following lines way too much.

    Vegas is not about the quality of games but the quantity of games at casinos. I suppose this also applies to thieves and thievery.

    This was interesting to me. In my 2000 posts plus regarding having bet sports in Las Vegas while spending 90-100 days there each year for 30 years, maybe once have I mentioned approximately how much money I had on me, and I'm sure that was solidly framed in past tense. So this resonated with me. You just don't lay out the counts and amounts you're carrying. Why would you? Braggadocio?

    What gave me cover in my heyday was that anytime I was in a major sports book, there were usually two or three runners (in the gambling term) who had many times what I had and who were often armed, subtly or not. Somebody looking to rob a person wasn't likely to choose little me. I was usually carrying much more than kewlJ says he does, so the difference in perspective is interesting. The runners were always a kind of cover for me.

    P.S. I just realized I didn't mention why the runners were so identifiable. Many, if not most, were using mega-fanny packs with huge wads of cash and tickets in them. They were eye-catching, really.
    Last edited by redietz; 07-19-2021 at 11:01 AM.

  5. #145
    lol... this thread is hopping!
    8 Pages of nothing.
    And Keystone scoffs at Plumbing!?

    One 474 word post from kewlJ and BoSox responded with 374 words.
    Have at it with those numbers, Mr. One Hit.
    Is this where you end the post with Wise Up or Ha?
    Wise Up.
    Ha.

  6. #146
    Here kewlj goes on about how casinos are attacking the play of low and mid-level counters. He wrote this in 2018. It was an essay so I cut the fat off and focused on the points.

    Why I found this interesting was that Kewlj admitted he’s a mid-level player. Maybe he could explain today how he overcame these attacks on mid-level players that’s been taking place for years. Don’t forget about technology advancing weekly. It’s now 2021. How much further do you think they are today several years later?

    I’m thinking he just jumped into a hidden corner, ripped of his clothes and came out in his tights and cape with a big S on the front. After all he’s faster than a speeding bullet, which might explain how he gets away from the tables un-noticed.

    It's amazing how these billion dollar companies must be loaded with dumb fucks according to Kewlj.

    Quote:

    But let's take a step back just a few years (and continuing even today), to the industry's obsession with card counters.

    Any slight threat came from well financed high limit players and teams. Focusing on anything other than these high limit players and teams was asinine, as smart casino people like Bill Zender recognized years ago.

    And yet the casino industry has waged war on low and mid level counters that are no threat for decades. They literally spend dollars to save a penny. And the really funny part is the casino industry is being "played" by all these so called expert gaming consultants and gaming consultant companies that have popped up in the last decade, many of them former (or failed) AP's themselves. You could even say this in itself has been an AP play, taking advantage of the casino industry's obsessions and paranoia to extract ten's or hundred times what you are "saving" them. It really is funny shit!

  7. #147
    No responded even needed. Great stuff Blackhole.

  8. #148
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Don’t forget about technology advancing weekly. It’s now 2021. How much further do you think they are today several years later?
    Casinos still use bloodhound you cunt. It's old, clunky, and a bitch to use. Your comment shows that much like Jon Snow, you know nothing.

    Cunt.

  9. #149
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    My general gambling advice can be summed up: “Don’t gamble…but if you are going to gamble…”



    this is from the linked report from N.I.H. - one of the most highly respected medical organizations in the world:




    "Based on its analysis of the U.S. prevalence studies that had been conducted in the past 10 years, the committee estimates that approximately 0.9 percent of the adults in the United States meet the SOGS criteria as pathological gamblers on the basis of their gambling activities in the past year."




    so, it's only reasonable to conclude that for the vast majority of gamblers - gambling is not really a bad thing

    a wife might tear into a husband or vice versa for losing $7K in a year gambling

    but most probably that $7K is not critical to their finances

    people have to do something with their free time - is a guy who loves camping out and spends $7K a year on gear and travel and other stuff so superior to the gambler who loses $7K........?

    I don't think so - especially since I have no interest in camping out

    those posting on these and other forums are not representative of the gambling public - the vast majority don't go to a gambling forum to discuss strategies

    they're going to do what they're going to do regardless of who calls them a ploppy or what anybody else thinks - they could care less


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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK230631/

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    Yeah, and I would also guess that the vast majority of the vast majority of gamblers aren't so interested in gambling that they find themselves on Internet Gambling Forums listening to fucking idiots like me. I mean, they should be listening to me because I know more about it than they do, but the fact that they ARE listening to me AND that my knowledge on the subject is helpful to them should be enough to tell them something is wrong.

    Because of that, I must only conclude that the probability that they are in the 0.9% of the populace is greater than is the 0.9% of the populace itself. Therefore, my first piece of advice is, if you don't gamble, then you CAN'T lose.

    The better part of them aren't going to comprehend my answer anyway, or if they do, will go on to fuck up some other aspect of their play. They certainly won't learn how to figure out similar problems for themselves, despite my best efforts to teach them.

  10. #150
    Originally Posted by jdaewoo View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Don’t forget about technology advancing weekly. It’s now 2021. How much further do you think they are today several years later?
    Casinos still use bloodhound you cunt. It's old, clunky, and a bitch to use. Your comment shows that much like Jon Snow, you know nothing.

    Cunt.
    Here is an article written 10 years ago about “bloodhound” technology designed for BJ for the people that don’t know about it. This was TEN YEARS AGO … I guess MaxPad I mean jdaewoo alleges the billion-dollar casinos can’t afford to stay current with technology.

    The more you fucking clowns talk the more obvious it becomes that Kewlj making a living off casinos counting cards for 11 years in Las Vegas is bullshit and just fantasies.

    Article:
    The Surveillance Departments new dog is named "Bloodhound"
    This recently introduced software formerly known as "Blackjack Voice Survey" has been around for about ten years. It measures both risk assessment and the profitability of the casino's most important blackjack players. Why would this be important?

    Every casino makes money on the game of Blackjack every time somebody busts. The casino's approximate advantage on Blackjack is around 1.3%. Professional and high stake players who play perfect basic strategy (that is the statistically most correct way to play any given sequence of cards) bust less often and thus reduce the casino's house advantage down to approximately 0.7%.

    Players who card count (that is observe every card dealt and determine the approximate mix of high cards to low cards remaining in the shoe) bust even less often and therefore reduce the actual house advantage to about 0.1%. The theory behind this is that the more decisions a player has to make the more the likelihood they are to draw and bust. The higher the value cards in play generally equate to fewer decisions and as a result less busts. Also, with more tens and aces remaining this improves the chance of making Blackjack at 3 - 2 and double downs at 2 - 1. The betting strategy associated with card counting is therefore to increase bets when the cards remaining in the shoe have a high face value (count is high, aces and tens) and reduce bets to the table minimum when they are low (count is low, lots of two's three's and four's). Considering that Foxwoods Resort Casino presently offers a xx% (confidential %) return on investment through comps, Wampum points (comp dollars) and other offers to players, the longer the association with these types of skilled BJ players the less chance the company has of making a Profit or making Budget.

    So why not just ban everybody who looks like they are card counting? The reason being is that this is a very difficult discipline to truly master. Only a very small percentage of skilled BJ players ever really achieve an actual consistent level of profitability. The good news is that everybody has the ability to learn to count cards and your local casino is the college with open enrollment and it never closes. Casino managers know full well that for most players there is far more money to be made from holding training schools teaching counting or selling books on the subject than players can actually earn from performing the counting process. Next time you visit a casino check out one of the magazine convenience stores and you will more than likely find a variety of books on card counting, basic strategy, etc. These are not there by mistake!

    There are however, the few highly skilled players who through sheer skill and intelligence or from the assistance of certain electronic devices that you won't normally find available on eBay or in Walmart that help them to beat the odds. On the gaming floor when one of these players is recognized as having a "particularly good run of luck" they are flagged for surveillance to record, archive and have their trusty "dog" review the play. Bloodhound uses either voice recognition or the keyboard for data entry. The data is actually a summary of every aspect of the recorded game interaction observed on the BJ table. Sounds complicated but in fact the data entry is quite easy and in approximately 20 minutes you will have one of the most accurate summary analyses of table games play presently available anywhere for the game of Blackjack.

    These reports grade a variety of disciplines. Was this person a card counter and if so, how good? How well does this person play basic strategy? What is the overall casino advantage over this player and what is our expected win per hour? Was there an unhealthy association with the dealer exposing cards to be dealt? Bloodhound offers some very powerful information that definitely lets the poor old casino manager sleep a little easier at night. Especially if he knows that a recent significant winner's run of luck is most likely a short term loan rather than the proverbial hole in the budget.

    We actually experienced a very interesting case here at Foxwoods. We had a customer buy in for $15,000. He finished his play that day winning just over $100,000. He came back every day for the next three weeks and repeated his same good fortune. He won just over $2,200,000 in approximately three weeks or so. Needless to say, "everyone" was getting very nervous and some of our non-sweating executives almost started to sweat. However, based upon our Bloodhound analysis we knew that this was an abnormal situation and that as long as the customer kept coming back that we had a reasonable chance of beating him based upon his skill level. Our CEO was not as comfortable as our Casino Vice President but still had confidence in the accuracy of the Bloodhound program. The gentleman returned again and lost back the full $2,200,000 plus an additional $75,000 in one session. Bloodhound helped take away some of the tension and stress involved with these types of abnormal high wins. We were also lucky because the player felt either very lucky at Foxwoods or that his particular betting system was actually working and kept returning. However, because of Bloodhound we never "sweated" his action and in fact, made him feel comfortable and welcome at all times which are additional reasons why he kept returning to Foxwoods. I have also witnessed the opposite at some casinos where they do everything they can to make the player feel uncomfortable and not want to come back. Evidently they decided to cut their losses and not take a chance losing more money. Bloodhound might have been a beneficial tool to help their decision making.

  11. #151
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    My general gambling advice can be summed up: “Don’t gamble…but if you are going to gamble…”



    this is from the linked report from N.I.H. - one of the most highly respected medical organizations in the world:




    "Based on its analysis of the U.S. prevalence studies that had been conducted in the past 10 years, the committee estimates that approximately 0.9 percent of the adults in the United States meet the SOGS criteria as pathological gamblers on the basis of their gambling activities in the past year."




    so, it's only reasonable to conclude that for the vast majority of gamblers - gambling is not really a bad thing

    a wife might tear into a husband or vice versa for losing $7K in a year gambling

    but most probably that $7K is not critical to their finances

    people have to do something with their free time - is a guy who loves camping out and spends $7K a year on gear and travel and other stuff so superior to the gambler who loses $7K........?

    I don't think so - especially since I have no interest in camping out

    those posting on these and other forums are not representative of the gambling public - the vast majority don't go to a gambling forum to discuss strategies

    they're going to do what they're going to do regardless of who calls them a ploppy or what anybody else thinks - they could care less


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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK230631/

    .
    Yeah, and I would also guess that the vast majority of the vast majority of gamblers aren't so interested in gambling that they find themselves on Internet Gambling Forums listening to fucking idiots like me. I mean, they should be listening to me because I know more about it than they do, but the fact that they ARE listening to me AND that my knowledge on the subject is helpful to them should be enough to tell them something is wrong.

    Because of that, I must only conclude that the probability that they are in the 0.9% of the populace is greater than is the 0.9% of the populace itself. Therefore, my first piece of advice is, if you don't gamble, then you CAN'T lose.

    The better part of them aren't going to comprehend my answer anyway, or if they do, will go on to fuck up some other aspect of their play. They certainly won't learn how to figure out similar problems for themselves, despite my best efforts to teach them.

    Back in the day when I spent all of Fridays on the phone with clients, one of my great joys (NOT!) was figuring out that if I rated college games 5 to 10 units, and NFL games from 1 to 3 units, with a unit representing .7% of bankroll, it didn't matter what I said or how I rated them for most clients. If they won a big chunk Saturday on college football, I knew they'd be launching on Sunday NFL no matter if I rated every NFL game at 1 unit. It drove me nuts. And God forbid I had a Monday night play, because no matter what I said, it was gonna get bet big. Drove me absolutely crazy.

  12. #152
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    On the gaming floor when one of these players is recognized as having a "particularly good run of luck" they are flagged for surveillance to record, archive and have their trusty "dog" review the play.
    Yet another example of Blackhole just not having a clue. Of the long article he posted, the important issue is boiled down to this line. "Floor recognized a particularly good run of luck" In the example given in the article which took place at Foxwoods, that recognision involved a player winning 100k that first day. That is an amount that draws attention. An amount that someone has to answer for. That requires an investigation and evaluation.

    Now that was Foxwoods, a casino that deals with higher limit players from NYC and Boston...even more so 10 years ago when along with nearby Mohegan Sun was the only game in that corner of the country.

    Other casinos the triggers are lower. All sorts of different amounts. But whatever the amount that trigger attention.....the amount that someone is going to have to answer for, and a professional type player figures these things out for each casino, each situation. But whatever the amount, playing limits that ARE tolerated and accepted and playing short sessions, which will result in many more smaller wins as opposed to that big win that triggers attention, an investigation, and someone has to answer for.

    As he was attempting to do whatever he is attempting to do, Blackhole because he is completely clueless about everything he is talking about, just made my case for me. Playing limits that are tolerated and short sessions, results in smaller wins that no one has to answer for and stay below any triggers. It is the key to longevity.

    Thanks Blackhole. Keep going.

  13. #153
    It doesn't take long to see the pattern here. Blackhole just doesn't understand the concepts being discussed, not only things I have discussed, but most concepts involving advantage play gambling. Therefore his response is to denounce these things he can't grasp as fake.

  14. #154
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    It doesn't take long to see the pattern here. Blackhole just doesn't understand the concepts being discussed, not only things I have discussed, but most concepts involving advantage play gambling. Therefore his response is to denounce these things he can't grasp as fake.
    Seems like it took you years to finally see the pattern. I'd avoid pursuing the psychology career and stick to card counting.

  15. #155
    Red, you're full again, please see WoV.

  16. #156
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Red, you're full again, please see WoV.
    Redietz is still banned on WOV until July 28th.....:/ Unless you were just trying to give him a subtle kick out of this thread or something.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


    Smart is knowing a Tomato is a fruit.

    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



    I am glad to get my full posting rights back! Thank you Dan!

  17. #157
    He can receive PM's if banned, just not send them.

  18. #158
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    On the gaming floor when one of these players is recognized as having a "particularly good run of luck" they are flagged for surveillance to record, archive and have their trusty "dog" review the play.
    Yet another example of Blackhole just not having a clue. Of the long article he posted, the important issue is boiled down to this line. "Floor recognized a particularly good run of luck" In the example given in the article which took place at Foxwoods, that recognision involved a player winning 100k that first day. That is an amount that draws attention. An amount that someone has to answer for. That requires an investigation and evaluation.

    Now that was Foxwoods, a casino that deals with higher limit players from NYC and Boston...even more so 10 years ago when along with nearby Mohegan Sun was the only game in that corner of the country.

    Other casinos the triggers are lower. All sorts of different amounts. But whatever the amount that trigger attention.....the amount that someone is going to have to answer for, and a professional type player figures these things out for each casino, each situation. But whatever the amount, playing limits that ARE tolerated and accepted and playing short sessions, which will result in many more smaller wins as opposed to that big win that triggers attention, an investigation, and someone has to answer for.

    As he was attempting to do whatever he is attempting to do, Blackhole because he is completely clueless about everything he is talking about, just made my case for me. Playing limits that are tolerated and short sessions, results in smaller wins that no one has to answer for and stay below any triggers. It is the key to longevity.

    Thanks Blackhole. Keep going.
    Typical kew with his deflections and diversions. You have no idea what anyone else is talking about. You make it all about your version of the world, which in turn makes it easy to see right thru your bs.

    You can talk about "big winning days" , "short term runs", and differing approaches by different casinos all day long. None of it addresses what's REALLY going on. You know it as well as everyone else knows it: if eyes or computer simulations catch or believe ANYONE is card counting--regardless of the limits they're playing--they immediately get asked to leave. Their facial pictures as well as personal information, if known, are shared throughout casinos in Nevada, and you become blocked from playing at most casinos.

    All the obfuscating in the world won't change these facts. You can keep whining, you can keep falsely claiming "these guys don't have a clue", and you can keep hoping for a weirdo like redietz to post more essays about how he sees things thru his libtard eyes. But none of its gonna change the truth.

    Keep digging kew...might as well be prepared. You'll probably worry yourself to death over this

  19. #159
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    It doesn't take long to see the pattern here. Blackhole just doesn't understand the concepts being discussed, not only things I have discussed, but most concepts involving advantage play gambling. Therefore his response is to denounce these things he can't grasp as fake.
    Seems like it took you years to finally see the pattern. I'd avoid pursuing the psychology career and stick to card counting.
    I guess I need to figure out what a folder is at some point.

    Blackhole, in case you're wondering, my mailbox is constantly full because I'm trying to sell picks to everybody. This week I have a lock -- bet SI swimsuit cover girl to be least hot ever. I know -- that's sexist, misogynist, anti-trans, and indelicate. I am going to be honest -- I had no idea they had chosen a trans woman to be one of the swimsuit cover girls. All I know is I looked at the cover photos and honestly thought, yowza, I'm not sure what body types are considered stylish these days, but I'm definitely glad I missed the boat. I guess thick and masculine are in.
    Last edited by redietz; 07-20-2021 at 11:53 AM.

  20. #160
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    I guess I need to figure out what a folder is at some point.

    Blackhole, in case you're wondering, my mailbox is constantly full because I'm trying to sell picks to everybody. This week I have a lock -- bet SI swimsuit cover girl to be least hot ever. I know -- that's sexist, misogynist, anti-trans, and indelicate. I am going to be honest -- I had no idea they had chosen a trans woman to be swimsuit cover girl. All I know is I looked at the cover photo and honestly thought, yowza, I'm not sure what body types are considered stylish these days, but I'm definitely glad I missed the boat. I guess thick and masculine are in.

    Then I got the memo.
    Marketer's gon' market, G.

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