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Thread: Kewlj's Fantasy Facts or Bullshit

  1. #221
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Listen Houdini, I didn’t even get started. I only covered 8 days so far.
    I think I have treated you pretty respectfully so far. I have given you the chance to find and post whatever this great evidence is that would prove me wrong and have respectfully responded to your inaccuracies and things that you just seem clueless about (but yet doesn't stop you from talking about).

    Well, I don't intend to do that forever. If you think I am going to speand years answering you idiot nonsence, you are wrong. I gave you your chance, your window and you have failed to produce anything and now that window is closing. You can just post what you like and be talking to yourself, which you mostly are anyway.

  2. #222
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Listen Houdini, I didn’t even get started. I only covered 8 days so far.
    I think I have treated you pretty respectfully so far. I have given you the chance to find and post whatever this great evidence is that would prove me wrong and have respectfully responded to your inaccuracies and things that you just seem clueless about (but yet doesn't stop you from talking about).

    Well, I don't intend to do that forever. If you think I am going to speand years answering you idiot nonsence, you are wrong. I gave you your chance, your window and you have failed to produce anything and now that window is closing. You can just post what you like and be talking to yourself, which you mostly are anyway.
    Twist and turn all you want Houdini. Trust me, you spent years trying to sell your fantasies, a few more is a walk in the park for you. You’ll always respond.

    What makes you think MaxPad and his phony post is something to hang your hat on? He’s the biggest CON-ARTIST, COWARD on this site and everyone knows it. You have a strange way of picking friends. If Norm came here and backed you, you’d drop everything you said bad about him for the last bunch of years and call him your “Buddy.”

    You and your forum friends are all full of shit, and everyone knows it.

  3. #223
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Edit: Also sounds like Maxpen beleives he knows exactly who I am. Not surprising as he and I played at at least 2 casinos and saw similar mistreating of a patron. Probably somewhere along the line, we played at the same table somewhere.
    Nice back-door protection in case I could quote you some where claiming you have no idea who he is. This fucking COWARD, MaxPad idiot believes he knows who you are? Yet, you don't know who he is? You guys really just continue to take everyone here for fools. Is MaxPad a BJ player also? No one here knows what he does either.

    You can't make this shit up.

  4. #224
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    What makes you think MaxPad and his phony post is something to hang your hat on? He’s the biggest CON-ARTIST, COWARD on this site and everyone knows it.
    Statements like this just prove you are out of your mind, have zero knowledge of what you are talking about and lends further to your total lack of ANY credibility.

    Unlike, myself who chose to remain somewhat private, MaxPen has met many and is known to many in the Las Vegas AP community. His credibility is impecable. You saying such a stupid thing just makes you even more ridiculous than you already are....if that is even possible.

    As for Norm, water under the bridge as far as I am concerned. I strongly objected to Norm providing the platform for someone making claims about blackjack that just couldn't be (5% advantage with his super duper count). Does this sound familiar because it is sort of repeated at WoV with Wizard providing the same kind of platform for Mdawggy.

    There is a guy that runs a gambling forum that is not a math guy or gambling guy, he is a forum guy running all kinds of different forums. I would expect that from him. I don't expect people like Norm and Wizard to look the other way when people make claims that defy math.

    Probably all these things get blown out of proportions in the heat of the moment and aren't handled well by any of us. But I am over the Norm thing and wish him well. And I am greatful for his software which I use religiously. I can't imagine I would have had half the success I have had without it. It is among the tools that allow a player to educate himself.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 07-26-2021 at 03:11 PM.

  5. #225
    Let me tell you something Houdini. You are one miserable asshole. I just went through 2 pages of history and every single post was fighting with other members. I couldn't take anymore.

    I should just post the first sentence of all your posts. If it wasn't so pathetic it would be funny.

    I have to say from what I've read so far 99% of all posts you made were fights.

    Now you're trying to tell us Quote: "Unlike, myself who chose to remain somewhat private, MaxPen has met many and is known to many in the Las Vegas AP community. His credibility is impecable."

    Says who? You, Mr. Popular himself?? You don't know for fact any of what you just said, and are going by your anonymous AP propaganda interactions on forums. LOL at "somewhat private" Not one person knows who the fuck you are.

    Get lost you miserable bullshitting idiot.

  6. #226
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Not one of them could tell us for sure if you’re even a man or a woman.
    Not one of them ever saw you let alone counting cards.
    Not one of them are even sure you’re in Las Vegas. Your IP is not a conformation.
    Not one of them have one confirmed fact about anything you claim or do.
    Another words Gasper you’re a ghost.

    Forget about your friends and their comments,
    There are some members that have publicly said they find my claims credible, based on math and my knowledge of what I am talking about. You call them my "friends" on one hand, but then in a completely contradictory note, you say they have never met me and don't know me. It is the second contradictory thing you say that is true. They aren't "friends", just members of the forum that dare say, they find me credible (and you a troll).

    This is an anonymous gambling (supposedly) forum. Anonymous! Do you know what that means? If it weren't anonymous, I doubt any of the AP's that post here would post. There also would be concerns from some of the non-AP posters, as you are proof that there are too many crazies out there. THAT is why forums are anonymous!

    It is a false narative that detractors like to spread that I haven't met anyone and no one knows me. I have met two top notch blackjack AP's an had lunch with them at their request. I have also met and done business (involving a shuffle machine) with a top notch table game AP. And several other AP's while I haven't introduced myself, know exactly who I am. Axelwolf described myself and my partner to a tee, one day on this very forum, after encountering us outside at a casino. I got an PM from an AP that I didn't know personally, saying he had seen me at the Lucky Dragon promotion after they had closed (which was basically an AP convention). That is the way it works in a town like Las Vegas.

    Do I meet up to drink, hangout and socialize with other members of this forum or any forum? Absolutely not! That isn't who I am. I am a solo player, and I mostly keep to myself and my very small circle of friends/family and it has served me well.

    Just another freaking thing that you don't have a clue about.

    Edit: Also sounds like Maxpen beleives he knows exactly who I am. Not surprising as he and I played at at least 2 casinos and saw similar mistreating of a patron. Probably somewhere along the line, we played at the same table somewhere.
    Hmm. About the Anonymous thing on Forums I remember asking on another Website something like,"Has anyone on here had sex with their Teachers when they were in school and Minors?" A reply was something like,"Why would anyone on here confess to doing that? I responded,"This is an Anonymous Forum. Nobody actually knows who is on the other side the computer screen." The reply was something like,"Not all of us are Anonymous. Some Members have each other's real life phone numbers and
    Emails and some Members have met each other in real life. So, not everybody is Anonymous on here."
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


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    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



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  7. #227
    For anyone interested in figuring out if or to what degree mid-level card counters might be tolerated, on July 22 GWAE's podcast featured the back half of an interview with a recently retired surveillance operator who had worked at, among several places over the course of his career, the Mirage.

    You can check out some comments regarding data base usage and biometric usage starting at about the 30-minute mark. You will likely learn more from this podcast than from the next 300 posts in this thread. The interview cuts through much of the myth and speculation.

    https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gamb...junior-part-2/

  8. #228
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    For anyone interested in figuring out if or to what degree mid-level card counters might be tolerated, on July 22 GWAE's podcast featured the back half of an interview with a recently retired surveillance operator who had worked at, among several places over the course of his career, the Mirage.

    You can check out some comments regarding data base usage and biometric usage starting at about the 30-minute mark. You will likely learn more from this podcast than from the next 300 posts in this thread. The interview cuts through much of the myth and speculation.
    I used to listen to GWAE regularly but now only do when I am directed to something. There were just too many episodes with card counters with very similar stories, most who played slash and burn and have trouble getting a game anywhere after a short time. Also, there is only so much of Dancer that I can take. So now I only listen when directed to something interesting and surveilance interviews is definitely something interesting to me, so thanks redietz.

    "Junior" is an interesting character, and one with a very distinct voice (for what it is worth). First thing I would remind people is that Junior worked for the top surveilance outfits at the top strip casinos. The type of places that have all the lastest technolgy, some of which Junior himself indicated don't work very well, like license plate readers. You get off the strip and away from those big casinos with top surveillance and most casinos don't have all that technology and personnel (and TOP personnel). That is one of the reasons I play the strip sparingly. I have strip locations in my regular rotation but selected for different reasons and play sparingly.

    So it was interesting to hear Junior mention the CSM play. I made mention of it a couple years ago, after it had been taught to me by a top table game player and received all kinds of hell from different APs. Of course I didn't have an 80% win rate as the player did that Junior was observing. If I did, I would be more focused on that. So moving on before I start getting more hate emails and PMs, it was interesting to hear Junior confirm that most places are not big database participants and even fewer contributors. They all subscribe to the databases, but don't seem to use them much. We sort of knew this, which means when you do get backed off by a casino that does particiapte, and are an entry in the databases, the danger period is very short. It is just for a few days while you are the newer entry. Doesn't take long before your entry gets buried and most places don't look beyond the newer entries if at all. So that was a good confirmation.

    Again, Juniors experiences are not typical because he worked for the biggest casinos and best surveillance crews. They are looking for and going after the higher stakes players. Players that spread green to mid balack and play very short sessions aren't registering. There isn't time for them to register. And a quick exit after showing spread, rather than retreat, makes it much harder to confirm anything. THAT, retreating back to a small wager is the biggest tell of any card counter.

    Anyway, a player can always learn from these surveillance guys. When you know what they are looking for, makes it easier to avoid that behavior. The old cat and mouse game...gotta love it.

  9. #229
    Kew do you ever read the bs you write on forums? Here you just said "I've met up with two other bj experts who both said I'm credible" and then you said "I met axel and he believes everything I claim" or pretty close to that.

    Are you delusional moreso than most people see you as? You quote book-blackjack and say you "follow the math". Then you attempt to claim you do what you claim your online character does because "others believe in me!!" How the fuck dumb are you?

    ANYONE can post about their "winning because they follow the math" online anonymously and then answer doubters by writing how "other so-called experts like and believe me blah blah blah" You just have to be moronic enuf to think any of that's good enuf for confirmation of any of the crap you concoct.

    Time to admit it---you're nothing more than a losing bj junkie who moved to LV with visions of using the casinos as your own personal ATM's. Your unproductive, meaningless life proves that.

  10. #230
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Kew do you ever read the bs you write on forums? Here you just said "I've met up with two other bj experts who both said I'm credible" and then you said "I met axel and he believes everything I claim" or pretty close to that.
    Wrong and wrong. I said nothing of the sort in either case. Maybe the whole problem with you is you don't understand what you are reading.

  11. #231
    Oh yes, I almost forgot, one of the most interesting things to me was Junior confirmed that the companies he work for had people that searched and monitored social media, for pictures and information. Now he didn't mention message boards, but you can be sure they are looking at gambling related message boards. I was aware, organisations like OSN had such people, but did not know individual surveillance departs did. But again, we are talking about the biggest and top surveillance at top strip casinos.

  12. #232
    I notice Rob hasn't mentioned his having "spoken with Anthony Curtis" lately. LOL.

    I wonder if Rob regaled AC with some homophobic rants. I'm sorry, man, sometimes "Singer" just steps in it so badly, you have to laugh.

    But who knows? Maybe AC is into nine-inch members, and squeegees in a Newell shower.

  13. #233
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    For anyone interested in figuring out if or to what degree mid-level card counters might be tolerated, on July 22 GWAE's podcast featured the back half of an interview with a recently retired surveillance operator who had worked at, among several places over the course of his career, the Mirage.

    You can check out some comments regarding data base usage and biometric usage starting at about the 30-minute mark. You will likely learn more from this podcast than from the next 300 posts in this thread. The interview cuts through much of the myth and speculation.

    https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gamb...junior-part-2/
    Wanted to just thank you for posting this. I know I’ve given you a hard time once or twice, but I call it like I see it and this post was a huge value add to this thread.

  14. #234
    Question to KewlJ where you say that the biggest counter indicator is retreating net to min after shoe. I don’t necessarily doubt that as of course it’s what a counter would do. But I would think it has a large false positive set. Almost everyone I know that plays blackjack (95% don’t count) that vary their bets during a shoe will go back to min bet at the start of a shoe. So whatever “flow of cards” or “martingale” or other method they are using resets each shoe. Nearly every blackjack player believes in good and bad shoes and restarts at the beginning of each shoe.

    Is your view different?

  15. #235
    Originally Posted by unJon View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    For anyone interested in figuring out if or to what degree mid-level card counters might be tolerated, on July 22 GWAE's podcast featured the back half of an interview with a recently retired surveillance operator who had worked at, among several places over the course of his career, the Mirage.

    You can check out some comments regarding data base usage and biometric usage starting at about the 30-minute mark. You will likely learn more from this podcast than from the next 300 posts in this thread. The interview cuts through much of the myth and speculation.

    https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gamb...junior-part-2/
    Wanted to just thank you for posting this. I know I’ve given you a hard time once or twice, but I call it like I see it and this post was a huge value add to this thread.

    Just pointing to some good info.

    I know nothing about blackjack, but I do know some folks who know some Mirage folks, and the Mirage seemed like a place that, style-wise, would make its own determinations regarding data bases and black books. Oh hell, I'll say it -- do you know the part of the interview where the surveillance guy says that if you tried to put people in the black book or wanted to use it, you would be ostracized? Think about that a little sideways for a bit. Dwell on it. And remember that Steve Wynn put those priorities in place way back when, and for good and practical reasons.

    I bet that little tidbit went right over most youngsters' heads.

  16. #236
    Originally Posted by unJon View Post
    Question to KewlJ where you say that the biggest counter indicator is retreating net to min after shoe. I don’t necessarily doubt that as of course it’s what a counter would do. But I would think it has a large false positive set. Almost everyone I know that plays blackjack (95% don’t count) that vary their bets during a shoe will go back to min bet at the start of a shoe. So whatever “flow of cards” or “martingale” or other method they are using resets each shoe. Nearly every blackjack player believes in good and bad shoes and restarts at the beginning of each shoe.

    Is your view different?
    My view is different unJon. We aren't talking about a $25 player varying bets from $25 to $75, or maybe $100, which is about the spread most non counters randomly varying bets do. When you get into a player that starts out betting say $25 and has progressed up to $300-$400, I have been told by some pits friends they are most likely either playing some sort of progression/martingale, or chasing losses, or parlaying wins, or counting.

    So the progression players shouldn't revert back to minimum wager at the shuffle. He bets in series and his progression isn't over until the series is over, so he should start the new shuffle at the next level called for in the progression. Players chasing losses, shouldn't revert back to $25 as it is hard to chase losses and make up losses, reverting back to a smaller wager than the losses occured at. Players parlaying wins, might revert back to a smaller wager, for reasons you said, that lucky shoe may be over. And of course card counters will revert back because the advantage they had when they were placing those big bets is gone with the shuffle.

    So the point is, the raising of bets isn't the tell, the lowering at the shuffle is. And when you see a player do that several times, it points to card counting. That might not confirm card counting, but it would be a point that an evaluation might be initiated. So I don't revert back several times. I don't revert back even once. I show my spread once and exit. That is an exit trigger. With such limited information, they can guess what I might have been doing, card counter, progression player, chasing losses or parlaying wins (depending on if winning or losing), but with that limited info, that's all it really is, a guess. And they aren't going to spend much more time on it, since you have already left the table.

    It really does eliminate one of the bigger....if not "tells", indicators that the player might be a card counter. You just are limiting the information shown and that works towards longevity.

  17. #237
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by unJon View Post
    Question to KewlJ where you say that the biggest counter indicator is retreating net to min after shoe. I don’t necessarily doubt that as of course it’s what a counter would do. But I would think it has a large false positive set. Almost everyone I know that plays blackjack (95% don’t count) that vary their bets during a shoe will go back to min bet at the start of a shoe. So whatever “flow of cards” or “martingale” or other method they are using resets each shoe. Nearly every blackjack player believes in good and bad shoes and restarts at the beginning of each shoe.

    Is your view different?
    My view is different unJon. We aren't talking about a $25 player varying bets from $25 to $75, or maybe $100, which is about the spread most non counters randomly varying bets do. When you get into a player that starts out betting say $25 and has progressed up to $300-$400, I have been told by some pits friends they are most likely either playing some sort of progression/martingale, or chasing losses, or parlaying wins, or counting.

    So the progression players shouldn't revert back to minimum wager at the shuffle. He bets in series and his progression isn't over until the series is over, so he should start the new shuffle at the next level called for in the progression. Players chasing losses, shouldn't revert back to $25 as it is hard to chase losses and make up losses, reverting back to a smaller wager than the losses occured at. Players parlaying wins, might revert back to a smaller wager, for reasons you said, that lucky shoe may be over. And of course card counters will revert back because the advantage they had when they were placing those big bets is gone with the shuffle.

    So the point is, the raising of bets isn't the tell, the lowering at the shuffle is. And when you see a player do that several times, it points to card counting. That might not confirm card counting, but it would be a point that an evaluation might be initiated. So I don't revert back several times. I don't revert back even once. I show my spread once and exit. That is an exit trigger. With such limited information, they can guess what I might have been doing, card counter, progression player, chasing losses or parlaying wins (depending on if winning or losing), but with that limited info, that's all it really is, a guess. And they aren't going to spend much more time on it, since you have already left the table.

    It really does eliminate one of the bigger....if not "tells", indicators that the player might be a card counter. You just are limiting the information shown and that works towards longevity.

    Now you have some pit friends? Are these the same pit friends that watch you play every time you visit their casino and the conversation in the pit goes something like this, “yea he is a card counter that leaves all the time after showing his spread, but he only takes a little. Leave him be, he’s not hurting anyone. By the way did any of you guys ever get his name yet? I’ve seen him come and go for years taking a little cash and running with it but never was able to get his name. We gave him the nick-name Houdini but we still don’t know his real name.”

    Now you say card counters show their spread and revert back to small bets with a new shoe. They do this several times in a row and eventually get tagged for a counter. You must be the smartest card counter in Las Vegas recognizing that tell and not doing it.

    Maybe you could give other BJ players some tips from other conversations you had with your pit friends telling you exactly how they do their jobs.

    The more you talk and try to revise your BJ fantasy the further up your ass your head goes.

    For the record unJon, when I played BJ I never had a clue about counting. I could have been betting hundreds or even the table limit at the end of a shoe. A few times during a lucky session I would get pit permission to go over the table limit. Whenever a new shoe started, I always went back to minimum bet waiting to predict if it looked like a good shoe developing. Slowly increasing my bets if things were going well.

    Don’t listen to this bullshit artist. His claims are no different than claiming to have possession of the Holy Grail with Jesus’s blood {DNA} in it.

    The real tell is the couple of backers he has here who don’t know a fucking thing about him for confirmed fact. And I mean not one single fucking thing. Remember the lecture he just posted explaining what an anonymous forum actually means. Quote: “Anonymous! Do you know what that means?” Yes, we sure do, BULLSHIT.

  18. #238
    So the question is, "Did blackhole listen to the podcast?"

    You have a surveillance security expert, who worked several strip casinos, discussing what a priority (or not) card counters are for surveillance and how data bases are or are not used. Now you have blackhole posting without commenting on anything said in the podcast. So the question becomes "Did blackhole listen to the podcast?"

    One would think, since the surveillance expert knows a whole lot more than blackhole, that blackhole would immediately listen to it and defer to the expert. And maybe comment on what was said.

    Seems like a reasonable way to go about things.

    "Did blackhole listen to the podcast?" If not, why not? What would it say about blackhole if he did not listen to the podcast? Or if he chose to not comment? If blackhole thinks he knows more than the person being interviewed, or values his opinion more, that's classic Dunning Kruger Effect.

    See, the thing is, I linked the podcast here because it's directly relevant. With an expert. The person being interviewed just retired. If the surveillance expert laid out how what kewlj claims to do as being impossible, I'd link it anyway. I don't mind being wrong. It's a great way to learn, although it has its costs.

  19. #239
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    So the question is, "Did blackhole listen to the podcast?"

    You have a surveillance security expert, who worked several strip casinos, discussing what a priority (or not) card counters are for surveillance and how data bases are or are not used. Now you have blackhole posting without commenting on anything said in the podcast. So the question becomes "Did blackhole listen to the podcast?"

    One would think, since the surveillance expert knows a whole lot more than blackhole, that blackhole would immediately listen to it and defer to the expert. And maybe comment on what was said.

    Seems like a reasonable way to go about things.

    "Did blackhole listen to the podcast?" If not, why not? What would it say about blackhole if he did not listen to the podcast? Or if he chose to not comment? If blackhole thinks he knows more than the person being interviewed, or values his opinion more, that's classic Dunning Kruger Effect.

    See, the thing is, I linked the podcast here because it's directly relevant. With an expert. The person being interviewed just retired. If the surveillance expert laid out how what kewlj claims to do as being impossible, I'd link it anyway. I don't mind being wrong. It's a great way to learn, although it has its costs.
    I don’t give a fuck what he said. Almost at the level most here don’t give a fuck about what you have to say.

    This bullshitting artist is not taking 80K to 100K net profit per year out of Las Vegas casinos counting cards for 11 years by himself.

    You could play along all you want. In fact, it’s a relief not having to read about your stupid fucking sport betting contests. It’s amazing how backing someone you don’t know one single fucking thing about except for his anonymous postings you read, is what it took to get you away from your annoying, boring sports betting. Where are your lectures for Houdini to post his real name like you do?

    You are the biggest WEIRDO on this site. Maybe it’s time for you to shut the fuck up…

    Did you really expect a casino expert to give away what their doing. Your more gullible then I thought. I guess when they catch card-counters and 86 them they draw straws to pick someone out.

    Wow redietz is already here within seconds.
    Last edited by blackhole; 07-27-2021 at 04:26 AM.

  20. #240
    LOL. Okay, blackhole. You clearly have no need to consult a surveillance expert, who you know is lying during interviews because you know better. Fair enough. If you actually listened to the podcast, it's quite possible you would find he was in agreement with you, since I would have posted the link either way.

    Thanks for reminding me about football. I take it you haven't had much luck betting sports lifetime? Well, then I'm glad you find it boring. Keeps you out of trouble.

    The NFL kicks off pre-season in a week. For those unfamiliar with last year's contest results, I'll repeat them one last time for blackhole's benefit:

    1) Tied for sixth out of a couple thousand in Heritage Sports' no-spread NFL and NFL totals contest.
    2) Tied for sixth out of a couple thousand in Northbet's no-spread NFL contest.
    4) Second out of 285 or so in Youwager's NFL ATS contest.
    4) Top 10 in Gaming Today's no spread NFL contest, out of 20,000 or so.

    I am seriously unlikely to ever top those results again in my lifetime.

    Thanks, and good luck during the 2021 football season.

    Cheers, blackhole. Have a good one.

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