Moses Las Vegas Plan

[unJon]

Yeah I agree on the $25 point. Moses holds the belief that a $50-400 spread at a $25 table is viewed as a $25-400 spread so draws 16:1 heat. I have no experience as to whether that is correct.

[mcap]

Mcap has already made two posts substantially just to complain about my errantly placed thread...which is 2x as many posts in the last several weeks as I have made errantly placed threads.

EDIT TO BE CLEAR: I'm not including the post he made IN said errantly placed thread. One would think that would have been sufficient to make his point, but I guess not.

Just another routine walk in the park for Mr mcap. Anybody who doesn't recognise this same tired shtick by now, has been asleep for a VERY LOOOONG time !

You’re seeming obsession with me is a little bit sus dude....rent free or whatever I guess.

[Ozzy]

Mcap has already made two posts substantially just to complain about my errantly placed thread...which is 2x as many posts in the last several weeks as I have made errantly placed threads.

EDIT TO BE CLEAR: I'm not including the post he made IN said errantly placed thread. One would think that would have been sufficient to make his point, but I guess not.

Just another routine walk in the park for Mr mcap. Anybody who doesn't recognise this same tired shtick by now, has been asleep for a VERY LOOOONG time !

You’re seeming obsession with me is a little bit sus dude....rent free or whatever I guess.

About 1/8 of the obsession of your Tusha/Threads sickness.

[blackhole]

Are you fucking serious starting this thread?

Everyone knows you and Mosses hate each other and always did. Now you’re going to pretend this thread you created is about helping him adjust to Las Vegas.

You just don’t know what else you could do to try and convince members that you understand BJ and your reason for forum existence is to help BJ players, even if the student thinks you’re full of shit.

You should give classes teaching players how to perform the Houdini maneuvers. No ID, no cards, avoiding surveillance, etc


You go beyond pathetic.

[coach belly]

You’re seeming obsession with me is a little bit sus dude...

Ozzy has brass in pocket

He's gonna make you notice

He's special, so special

He's gotta have some of your attention...give it to him!

[Mission146]

Look goofball <- There has vnever been any benefit to me trying to offer some thoughts that help newer players, or in this case an experienced player, who may be changing his situation, but I like to do so in honor of those that helped me along the way. In this case, Moses can't particpate here and I can't at WoV so it is what it is. get over it!

I'm plenty over it! I appreciate you taking my joke so well. I'm not really worried about Moses and yourself passing notes across the aether of the internet; the joke just popped into my head, so I had to run with it.

[Mission146]

Are you fucking serious starting this thread?

Everyone knows you and Mosses hate each other and always did. Now you’re going to pretend this thread you created is about helping him adjust to Las Vegas.

You just don’t know what else you could do to try and convince members that you understand BJ and your reason for forum existence is to help BJ players, even if the student thinks you’re full of shit.

You should give classes teaching players how to perform the Houdini maneuvers. No ID, no cards, avoiding surveillance, etc


You go beyond pathetic.

Now, Blackhole...I don't go to your threads and tell you how you can be doing a better job of being a cunt, do I? I could be 3x the cunt you are, if I wanted to be. I figure I'll just let you have it, though.

It is, after all, the only thing you've got in life...or, the only thing that you have demonstrated that you have on this forum.

[blackhole]

Now, Blackhole...I don't go to your threads and tell you how you can be doing a better job of being a cunt, do I? I could be 3x the cunt you are, if I wanted to be. I figure I'll just let you have it, though.

It is, after all, the only thing you've got in life...or, the only thing that you have demonstrated that you have on this forum.

Mission, you are such a washed-up gambling forum has been it’s becoming weird to even reply to you anymore. It’s obvious you really don’t have a clue about most of what you pretend to know. After all, you are employed to author fairy tales in hopes of luring in gambling customers for the Serbs in a third world country. Is this the best you could do?

No one is concerned or care what you have to say anymore. Give it a rest. Dig deep and find some integrity.

You don't bother with my threads. You just make 25 posts in them backing up someone you never met or spoke to in person. Oh that's right, "it sounds good"

[Mission146]

Mission, you are such a washed-up gambling forum has been it’s becoming weird to even reply to you anymore. It’s obvious you really don’t have a clue about most of what you pretend to know. After all, you are employed to author fairy tales in hopes of luring in gambling customers for the Serbs in a third world country. Is this the best you could do?

No one is concerned or care what you have to say anymore. Give it a rest. Dig deep and find some integrity.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...20/#post815219

Really pro trying to get people to gamble, aren't I? Just face the fact that you know nothing about anything.

Win at gambling or lose at gambling; we have, one and all, lost at life or we wouldn't even be here. Ultimately, none of us are any, 'Better,' than any other, but some are less stupid than others. You are not one of them. You are both a loser at life and stupid.

[mcap]

It’s ok Mission, even if you are a washed up gambling forum has been you’re certainly far above me in Ozzy’s forum poster rankings list.

[Mission146]

Don't even try to deny it, or if you do, try to explain why you would be wasting your few remaining days talking to a loser asshole, like me.

[Mission146]

It’s ok Mission, even if you are a washed up gambling forum has been you’re certainly far above me in Ozzy’s forum poster rankings list.

That's a relief. JK.

[Mission146]

Four hidden members on and you're one of them. How long is this fucking three-sentence response going to take? I'm going to start arguing with myself out of boredom.

[MisterV]

. You just make 25 posts in them backing up someone you never met or spoke to in person. Oh that's right, "it sounds good"

You poltroon, that's just the way the world works; you know this yet play the fool simply to annoy others while amusing yourself.

I don't think I've EVER met any of the political candidates I voted for, yet I felt informed enough to voice my opinion.

Take the Bible, or the Koran: nobody alive today met anybody who wrote them yet the words of these "unmet authors" are so valued that religions and philosophies are based on what they said.

No, you're just a contrarian troll engaging in a long term campaign of fecal painting AP's, for reasons unknown.

[Mission146]

You don't bother with my threads. You just make 25 posts in them backing up someone you never met or spoke to in person. Oh that's right, "it sounds good"

It takes you eight minutes to add a sentence?

You're going to criticize me for not being in a thread, "Took his ball and went home," or for being in a thread. That's inconsistent. From what I have seen, KewlJ's posts are at least less inconsistent than this...and that's over a period of several years, as opposed to less than a day.

It would be one thing if you were smart enough to advance intelligent arguments, and maybe you were once upon a time, no longer.

[Mission146]

No, you're just a contrarian troll engaging in a long term campaign of fecal painting AP's, for reasons unknown.

I mean, as long as we are engaged in baseless speculation anyway---I'm going to say that he equates AP's to whatever charlatan he bought a gambling system from, believed in it, and proceeded to lose a fuck ton of money.

[accountinquestion]

Mcap has already made two posts substantially just to complain about my errantly placed thread...which is 2x as many posts in the last several weeks as I have made errantly placed threads.

EDIT TO BE CLEAR: I'm not including the post he made IN said errantly placed thread. One would think that would have been sufficient to make his point, but I guess not.

Just another routine walk in the park for Mr mcap. Anybody who doesn't recognise this same tired shtick by now, has been asleep for a VERY LOOOONG time !

You’re seeming obsession with me is a little bit sus dude....rent free or whatever I guess.

If your posts have nothing to do with Las Vegas can you at least make them gambling related. Thanks.

[blackhole]

Here are some quotes from Moses and other Las Vegas BJ players from the WOV thread KJ claims was the reason he started this thread here to help give advice to Moses, because he's presently banned again over there and can't post. You can't make this shit up. The “successful one” reference is pointing out KJ.

QUOTES:

As Richard Munchkin has said many times, "Vegas is the worst place in the country to count cards."

The successful one gets backed off and just keeps going back. That would scare me. I did it once and found myself surrounded.

Problem is there are so many forum millionaires socking it to Vegas blackjack tables. Im not sure of their tolerances.

I mean 35 to 50 backoffs in a few years. And still be welcomed back at most tabkes? Amazing. What nice people they all must be..

Now there is the successful one who floats in like a butterfly and stings like a bee to profit $80k to $100k a year. Evidently, according to his/her posts, there are numerous others soaking casinos for even more.

What I dont understand is your friends crusade to get more newbies to play by constantly speaking to his success. Yes, maybe it's only a few. But it only takes one to screw it all up. Plus now the newbie is sitting in your seat. When did winning stop being enough?

If you are winning regular money on a consistent play basis..meaning they know your face, how long is it going to take the casino to figure out he’s a card counter and “just let him be” is going to be the mentality of the pit?

Quite frankly, based on the blackjack survey, I am not able to comprehend KJ's rotation and returns to so many backoffs.

A successful player for over a decade span says to stay away from $50 min bet 6 shoes and up. Cant bet 1 and 2 hands on double deck games which are closely hawked. Stay off the strip. What's left to play? How do you get a rotation of 10, 25, 30 casinos after all that has been eliminated?

i honestly feel no good will come from card counting because of the backoffs, its your money/life maybe you be another ZK or KJ and avoid detection and win forever

Not sure about the dodge and pony ahow KJ employs.

yes you will get captured as a card counter its not a matter of if but when? this theory of a KJ playing over a decade w/o detection or they know but dont care is a croc thats right i said it a croc of you know what! so please Moses save your self time, money and energy

anywho yea those bj games are more protected than the mafia's daughter once they see winning they will capture you if it were that ez everybody be doing it (i bet its knee deep in atlantic city tables right now)

I came to realize from this thread to stay put, increase my bet and change my routine

[kewlJ]

The person you are quoting, dawinnaatiozins, doesn't seem to have a clue about Las Vegas blackjack, or blackjack in general for that matter. Just the fact that he used the word "capture" in saying "they will capture you" shows a complete lack of understanding how things work. In his short time at WoV he also has challenged claims of other AP's like Dark oz, while at the same time, reading through just a few of his 20 posts or so, he seems to believe Mdawg. THAT tells you all you need to know.

However, the fact that moses almost decided to relocate to Vegas was a bit of an eye opener for me. Nothing good could have come of it for me and other card counters that play Vegas. So I am going to change my tune, right here and now.

Yes, my blackjack claims are not to be believed. Vegas blackjack is unplayable. Anyone who tries will get "captured", so everyone should just stay away.

[redietz]

I still know zero about blackjack and still have no idea if kewlj plies his wares in a brothel in Pahrump or as a card counter in Las Vegas.

Having said that, does it make any sense to quote an anonymous source who claims to count cards in Reno as a means to debunk someone who claims to count cards in Las Vegas? Especially when, and correct me if I'm wrong, it would seem to be way more difficult to count cards in Reno.

What logical sense does any of that make? It's a real tilt-a-whirl argument. You're quoting someone who alleges he's doing something more difficult than what a second person is doing. And it's to demonstrate that what the second person is doing is too difficult to do.