Chinook Winds casino on the Oregon coast is closed til late August due to a covid outbreak.
https://www.chinookwindscasino.com/
Chinook Winds casino on the Oregon coast is closed til late August due to a covid outbreak.
https://www.chinookwindscasino.com/
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I’m confused?
Are those getting it vaccinated or not? Are those spreading it vaccinated or not? If the vaccinated are still getting it and spreading it, will it go away if everyone is vaccinated? If people are getting it a 2nd time, what is stopping people from getting it a 3rd time? If you are vaccinated and get it, but don’t know it, what is the issue? Honestly, I’m lost at what is going on at this point. And I’m not taking sides, but nothing makes any sense.
Got a friend that wouldn't get the vaccine. In his sixties with COPD. He could have gotten it back in March when I did. June 1st he went into the hospital with covid. He was unresponsive by June 7th. They put him in a coma and intubated him. That lasted 3 weeks. After being revived it was two weeks before he could talk. He'll be in a wheelchair and on oxygen for the forseeable future.
He took a bad gamble by not getting the vaccine.
At 95% effective it means some vaccinated will still get covid. But they aren't getting near as sick as the unvaccianted. And they aren't dying from it like the unvaccinated.
It's supposed to be a free country. I support the right to refuse to take the vaccine. But taking the jab is the advantage play. Those that don't get it are dumb and dumber. They are killing other people while only thinking of themselves.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Last edited by mickeycrimm; 08-17-2021 at 08:04 PM.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Wait? What? Mick, I absolutely agree getting the shot is the AP move at this point and for people like you with pre existing conditions it’s a no brainer….BUT
I 100% disagree with you they are killing people. Not sure why or where you are pulling that from. Are you saying the vaccinated are not getting or spreading Covid? That’s the first I heard of that. Vaccinated are obviously getting Covid, granted not as severe but can you, I or anyone say they are not spreading it? I believe because the vaccine is working, they are not getting tested unless required for work. But do we know the vaccinated are not spreading it?
If we can’t answer if the vaccinated are or are not spreading it, then one can say they are also killing people. Sorry but I believe no one is responsible for anyone killing another because of their decisions on being vaccinated. People making the decision to not get the vaccine are only responsible for their own life, and I don’t think we disagree we should respect their choice to look at the numbers and make the right choice for themselves.
That said Monet will blast both of us for disagreeing.
The vaxxed aren't 100% safe from covid but....
The vaxxed contract covid at just a fraction of the rate of the unvaxxed.
The rate of hospitalization for the vaxxed that contract covid is very low compared to the unvaxxed.
The rate of death for the vaxxed that contract covid is very low compared to the unvaxxed.
Since most of the vaxxed don't get covid they overall infect others at a much lower rate than the unvaxxed do.
Who is giving covid to the people that die from it, the vaxxed or the unvaxxed? There really is no contest here. The math says the unvaxxed are infecting others in overwhelming numbers compared to the vaxxed.
We're at the point where roughly half of Americans have been vaxxed and half haven't. Which group is contributing the most to hospitalizations and deaths? It's not even close. The unvaxxed win hands down. They are mostly killing each other by spreading it among themselves, but they also infect some of the vaxxed.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Hate to disagree. One MD recently reported it was 50/50 among those who’d gotten shots and who hadn’t. Ironic a majority of the shotted who were in the hospital got Pfizer.
Wait a damn minute. If the vaccine (which none of them are vaccines prevent disease and don’t decline rapidly in effectiveness first off so it’s a shot like the flu shot at best) is so damn effective then it should keep somebody unvaxxed from getting a vaxxed person sick. Oh wait. It’s not breakthrough case numbers are escalating and yes folks are still dying despite being shotted up. Druff posted last week about a 39yo fantasy football blogger died despite being fully vaxxed. Scarier to me is that they’re now showing massively elevated viral loads in Pfizer patients which just might explain the real root of the Delta variant as it’s one calling card was a huge viral load compared to previous. I’m not anti vax. If you want to get the shot go for it. I did only because 2nd time around nearly killed me bht I would recommend J&J it doesn’t seem to wane and it’s traditional shot/vaccine technology that doesn’t play God with cells that some people don’t tolerate well. Auto immune issues are a legit concern with Pfizer and Moderna. It’s not everybody but anybody with AI issues needs to chose wisely. I honestly think Pfizer will be pulled eventually as an option due to efficacy issues compared to the other two (no word yet on the AstraZenica shot being approved in the USA).
Maybe, but the impact on hospitals and health care providers is very real.
Mississippi is near bursting, and southern Oregon isn't far behind.
Almost all those admitted with covid are unvaccinated.
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I know a nurse that is looking for a new job because she is not going to take the vax being required by her health system. A hero a year ago and disposable today.....lol
Inept policy can manufacture all sorts of shortages and problems. Whatever happened to the flu? I guess it just disappeared.
Got a source on your "all" claim? The CDC already apologized for using statistics that were a year old when they tried to pull their bullshit 97% claim.
I didn't say "all," I said "almost all:" there's a difference.Originally Posted by MaxPen
As for source: I've read various articles online and in the paper, all are consistent in pointing out how the unvaccinated are reaping the whirlwind; see e.g.:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberth...h=196064ef14b1
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If the minority are vaxxed then it makes sense that the majority are unvaxxed in any situation. Especially when you consider that the vaxxed have no more protection than the unvaxxed.
Notice how nowhere in that article are actual statistics provided. Just broad brushed claims in support of the narrative.
If this country ever gets close to the numbers of vaxxed like Israel or the Seychelles then we will have the same severity of epidemic that they do.
Explain to me why every other Vaccination is a one shot and done ordeal??
This experimental medicine is not a Vaccine.
It is a 6 to 12 month treatment and I refuse said treatment for the time being.
I've never taken any type of Flu Shot either.
I'll stick with Vitamin D and some Zinc.
My wife took the shot so when they make it law, she can go pick up the groceries.
The governor or Oregon is calling up the National Guard to assist with addressing the surge.
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2021...nal-guard.html
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