Caesars Palace hahhahahaha not again. Not again u son of btiches

[kewlJ]

Lost again there? How? Over 10k lost between LV and Atlantic City at this rigged faggot property. If I can't win here nobody can win here. Ive got the data this is the most rigged fuckin place I've ever seen. U guys will regret me every fucking dollar u stole from me.

I didn't address this initially because I am just tired of addressing these irrational rants and have you respond with some name calling, but 10k lost between 2 casinos at your level of play is nothing spectacular or alarming. So 2 casinos you are down $5k each of some such break up of that $10k.

I have been in Vegas 12 years, made 7 figures total (can't wait for the comments) and I have a number of casinos I am in the red for lifetime results and two of those it is mid 4 figures, about what you are talking about. It happens! Results from almost any single casino, even over multiple years are not really going to approach longterm, so playing with an advantage, even good games, good rules, deep penetration can result in results in the red. If you look at such results for an individual casino alone, sure it raises questions, but if your total results are reasonably within expectation, THAT is what you should be focused on, not some individual result that is an outlier in the red.

Let me ask you this: If you have a casino that individual results are way above expectation, do you wonder what the hell is wrong? Of course not!

Now these two casinos you mentioned have 1 thing in common. They are both named Caesars. That is it. The way the evil empire breaks up parts of there empire into different companies, I don't even know if they are the same company (probably are). But there is no reason to believe they share anything else. As usual you are jumping to conclusions based on irrational reasons.

Now the answer, which I have mentioned many times, is that if you are uncomfortable with any casino, or even individual dealer for whatever reason, rational or not, stop playing that location. The two places I mentioned that I am solidly 4 figures in the red, I basically stopped playing. Oh I may wonder in once or twice a year, but I don't return week after week trying to prove something. My goal is to win overall. I honestly have no idea what your goal is, you seem to take everything so personally.

[mickeycrimm]

So in 4 years ZK's bankroll moves from 50K to 108K but 20K of it was inheritance. So he couldn't even double the 50K in four years....but he calls himself the best. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

No excuses, ZK. You're an idiot.

[kewlJ]

So in 4 years ZK's bankroll moves from 50K to 108K but 20K of it was inheritance. So he couldn't even double the 50K in four years....but he calls himself the best. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

No excuses, ZK. You're an idiot.

Well, he did live for those 4 years. I don't know exactly what his living expenses are, but he covered his expenses and grew his bankroll some.

I also don't really know, but I don't think he plays as much as he should be playing. With a spread up to 2x$250, which I think is what he said, he is a grinder type player. That means you gotta put in time and build EV. He can correct me if I am wrong, but I sort of get the impression he plays part-time hours and wonders why he is only making part-time money.

[MaxPen]

So in 4 years ZK's bankroll moves from 50K to 108K but 20K of it was inheritance. So he couldn't even double the 50K in four years....but he calls himself the best. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

No excuses, ZK. You're an idiot.

Says the dude who used to sleep under bridges and finally got his own apartment after 60....lol

[ZenKinG]

Imagine being as fucking stupid as KJ. When the fuck did I say I'm returning to Caesars Palace day in and day out or any casino I believe is cheating me? I literally play Caesars once in a blue moon cause I convince myself the upside is huge if they're indeed not cheating and then I can add another property to my rotation, a good game property that is. Every other property I've accused of cheating, I DONT PLAY, all once in a blue moon cause again the upside is huge. But of course you make up shit just to have a chance at arguing vs me and to try and discredit me you stupid fuck.

All I fucking need to know is who is a lifetime winner at Caesars Palace LV and Caesars Palace Atlantic City on their SHOE games. Also Planet Hollywood, Mandalay Bay, San Manuel, and the rest of that rigged SoCal state. I don't give a fuck about their double deck games. I want to know everyone's fucking results on their SHOE games. I won't hold my breath cause everyone's a fucking fraud and doesn't even play blackjack. Just a bunch of scammers, machine button pushers, and fraud degenerate bitches.

And shout out to KJ, you said I don't have what it takes to play this game? Tell me again how much I've made lifetime. Tell me how much I made in the last year when I changed up my game. Tell me how much effort I've put playing this game and the amount I've won aging only at 2x200 on average. The first 3 years in Vegas I wasn't even playing enough and playing slow games. You'll eat your words you faggot bitch. Ask me 5 years from now what my bankroll is. I'm not fucking going anywhere. I'll die at this fucking table. I'm not playing anything other than blackjack for the rest of my life. This isn't about the money. I'll fucking destroy this game like no one ever has.

[kewlJ]

All I fucking need to know is who is a lifetime winner at Caesars Palace LV and Caesars Palace Atlantic City on their SHOE games. Also Planet Hollywood, Mandalay Bay, San Manuel,

I am a lifetime winner at Caesars LV, Planet H and Mandy Bay. Not huge amounts, two low 4 figures, one a little bit higher, but I don't play any of them that much. Ceasars AC, I don't remember and no longer have those records. The limits were too high for me to play during my first 3 years in AC. I played some my last couple years in AC and don't remember anything extrordinarily negative or positive, so I am guessing I am a small lifetime winner there as well. I have never played San Manuel.

Not sure what your point is. I am not sure how attacking me, helps your game, but if that is what you need to do, I guess...whatever. I am used to it.

[McDuck]

Imagine being as fucking stupid as KJ. When the fuck did I say I'm returning to Caesars Palace day in and day out or any casino I believe is cheating me? I literally play Caesars once in a blue moon cause I convince myself the upside is huge if they're indeed not cheating and then I can add another property to my rotation, a good game property that is. Every other property I've accused of cheating, I DONT PLAY, all once in a blue moon cause again the upside is huge. But of course you make up shit just to have a chance at arguing vs me and to try and discredit me you stupid fuck.

All I fucking need to know is who is a lifetime winner at Caesars Palace LV and Caesars Palace Atlantic City on their SHOE games. Also Planet Hollywood, Mandalay Bay, San Manuel, and the rest of that rigged SoCal state. I don't give a fuck about their double deck games. I want to know everyone's fucking results on their SHOE games. I won't hold my breath cause everyone's a fucking fraud and doesn't even play blackjack. Just a bunch of scammers, machine button pushers, and fraud degenerate bitches.

And shout out to KJ, you said I don't have what it takes to play this game? Tell me again how much I've made lifetime. Tell me how much I made in the last year when I changed up my game. Tell me how much effort I've put playing this game and the amount I've won aging only at 2x200 on average. The first 3 years in Vegas I wasn't even playing enough and playing slow games. You'll eat your words you faggot bitch. Ask me 5 years from now what my bankroll is. I'm not fucking going anywhere. I'll die at this fucking table. I'm not playing anything other than blackjack for the rest of my life. This isn't about the money. I'll fucking destroy this game like no one ever has.

Just for you I'm gonna add Caesars palace to my rotation and try to get 20 hours there in Q4

[ZenKinG]

Bump. This thread is being bumped until I get someone with verifiable proof that is up on the main floor shoe games with a decent sample size at Caesars Palace LV/AC, Planet Hollywood, Mandalay Bay, San Manuel, Harrah's PA or any Harrah's in general, and all of Southern California shoe games. SHOE games only. I will bump this every fucking day until I get verifiable proof

[MisterV]

This thread is being bumped... . I will bump this every fucking day until I get verifiable proof

Bump all you want, you'll get nothing "verifiable."

But consider this, ye who consider yourself the greatest BJ player of all time: your claim that you won $150K is NOT at all impressive, not to me, not to most thinking people with a clue about how the world works.

You've been at it now in Las Vegas for five years; that averages $30K a year.

That sucks, dude, it really sucks.

That's what burger flippers make at $15 / hour.

Such lousy success must especially gall a guy like you, someone with a BA in business.

How can you possibly accept such a level of near-poverty income?

Oh yeah, you blame it on "cheating" casinos.

Go back east, reclaim your old room at your folks' house, get a real job, and gamble for fun.

[ZenKinG]

This thread is being bumped... . I will bump this every fucking day until I get verifiable proof

Bump all you want, you'll get nothing "verifiable."

But consider this, ye who consider yourself the greatest BJ player of all time: your claim that you won $150K is NOT at all impressive, not to me, not to most thinking people with a clue about how the world works.

You've been at it now in Las Vegas for five years; that averages $30K a year.

That sucks, dude, it really sucks.

That's what burger flippers make at $15 / hour.

Such lousy success must especially gall a guy like you, someone with a BA in business.

How can you possibly accept such a level of near-poverty income?

Oh yeah, you blame it on "cheating" casinos.

Go back east, reclaim your old room at your folks' house, get a real job, and gamble for fun.

5 years? Do you just make up numbers to try and discredit the best to ever do it? I don't blame you cause it sucks to eat your words knowing you were wrong about me. It's alright, everyone is always wrong about me, because I'm in 1 in a million, not 1 of million.

Last I checked I have been here 4 years, of which 3 months were stolen from me because of Covid. Last I checked the last year I made 84.7k in how many hours? 558? Wow. Tell me what the hourly is on that. I'll wait. Imagine only having to play 558 hours to make 84.7k. The first 3 years I was playing ridiculously slow games and only backcounting which gave me no flexibility to play and get the hours in.

Just cause your droned out ass needs a real world job to make ends meet doesn't mean everyone does. It's just gambling right? No one can make money at this and live off it. That's what they say right? Oh wait, for droned out retards that's the case. I'd be bitter too if I realized I worked a shit job my whole life that I hated only to get to retirement and be bored out of my mind. Sucks for you lmao.

[kewlJ]

Last I checked the last year I made 84.7k in how many hours? 558? Wow. Tell me what the hourly is on that. I'll wait. Imagine only having to play 558 hours to make 84.7k.

Well now, according to Bosox's formula, which includes time played at the tables, travel to and between games, any break you might take to eat a meal, time spend recordkeeping, and time spent on forums, or in your case "discord"...lets see that would come to about $21.46 and hour. Of course BoSox is both an idiot and dishonest with what he says.

If you made 87k last year, that is a good year. So what is all the bitching about? And you learned and adjusted from your first few years, just like I did after my AC experience. THAT is what the game is really all about.

So your only real problem is you have to learn to accept that variance, is part of the game. That means there will be losing days and periods. Well, that and you need to stop taking everything so personally.

[MisterV]

5 years? Do you just make up numbers to try and discredit the best to ever do it? I don't blame you cause it sucks to eat your words knowing you were wrong about me

You joined WoV in May,2016.

You moved west shortly after that xmas.

Close enough to five years; maybe a tad more than four and a half if you want to split hairs.

Oh, you said that you were in the OSN database back then: don't you think they've been keeping tabs on you?

[The Boz]

Oh, you said that you were in the OSN database back then: don't you think they've been keeping tabs on you?

My thought would be OSN being the least of who is keeping tabs on him.

If no one ever reported him for his threats, I would be shocked. And NO, I didn’t report him. Unlike the forum owners who allowed him to make his threats for years, I have no responsibilities or potential liabilities for his years of threats.

But hey, he is just “blowing off stream”, which we all do at times. We just don’t threaten to shoot up casinos when we throw fits when we realize we aren’t as good as we think we are.

And let’s face it, many of us think mental illness is funny. It’s just not often we get to see it in action as the King gives us a front row seat to.

[kewlJ]

My thought would be OSN being the least of who is keeping tabs on him.

If no one ever reported him for his threats, I would be shocked. And NO, I didn’t report him. Unlike the forum owners who allowed him to make his threats for years, I have no responsibilities or potential liabilities for his years of threats.

But hey, he is just “blowing off stream”, which we all do at times. We just don’t threaten to shoot up casinos when we throw fits when we realize we aren’t as good as we think we are.

And let’s face it, many of us think mental illness is funny. It’s just not often we get to see it in action as the King gives us a front row seat to.

I would be shocked if some at WoV didn't report him to either local or federal authorities. It seemed like there were a number of members genuinly concerned about those threats. And especially so being the timing was a year or so after the Oct 1 shooting on the strip....involving a gambler upset with his mounting gambling losses. I wouldn't be surprised if the owner / administrator of that forum even reported him, if nothing else as to protect the forum.

As for OSN, I have read a lot of entries in OSN and never read any mention of anything like that. They are strictly concerned with the advantage play and cheating aspects, of which they lump together and don't distinguish amoung the two. Griffin was even worse in that regard.

[ZenKinG]

Bump. This thread is being bumped until I get someone with verifiable proof that is up on the main floor shoe games with a decent sample size at Caesars Palace LV/AC, Planet Hollywood, Mandalay Bay, San Manuel, Harrah's PA or any Harrah's in general, and all of Southern California shoe games. SHOE games only. I will bump this every fucking day until I get verifiable proof

[The Boz]

Bump. This thread is being bumped until I get someone with verifiable proof that is up on the main floor shoe games with a decent sample size at Caesars Palace LV/AC, Planet Hollywood, Mandalay Bay, San Manuel, Harrah's PA or any Harrah's in general, and all of Southern California shoe games. SHOE games only. I will bump this every fucking day until I get verifiable proof

Dude, you definitely need to go out this weekend. Caesars is easy pickings on Holiday weekends for as skilled a player as you are with all the tourists in town. The best in the world card counters flood Vegas on holiday weekends like this for the HUGE opportunities it presents. Only a total loser would not make money on a Holiday weekend in Vegas in general, and Caesars Palace in particular.

[BoSox]

Oh, you said that you were in the OSN database back then: don't you think they've been keeping tabs on you?

My thought would be OSN being the least of who is keeping tabs on him.

If no one ever reported him for his threats, I would be shocked. And NO, I didn’t report him. Unlike the forum owners who allowed him to make his threats for years, I have no responsibilities or potential liabilities for his years of threats.

But hey, he is just “blowing off stream”, which we all do at times. We just don’t threaten to shoot up casinos when we throw fits when we realize we aren’t as good as we think we are.

And let’s face it, many of us think mental illness is funny. It’s just not often we get to see it in action as the King gives us a front row seat to.

Dude, you definitely need to go out this weekend. Caesars is easy pickings on Holiday weekends for as skilled a player as you are with all the tourists in town. The best in the world card counters flood Vegas on holiday weekends like this for the HUGE opportunities it presents. Only a total loser would not make money on a Holiday weekend in Vegas in general, and Caesars Palace in particular.

Boz do not be so sure that you have no responsibilities or potential liabilities for his years of threats. People are charged with instigating someone who has shown signs of mental illness
into increasing the possibilities of carrying out actions and the person actually does carry out the threat.

[BoSox]

Last I checked the last year I made 84.7k in how many hours? 558? Wow. Tell me what the hourly is on that. I'll wait. Imagine only having to play 558 hours to make 84.7k.

Well now, according to Bosox's formula, which includes time played at the tables, travel to and between games, any break you might take to eat a meal, time spend recordkeeping, and time spent on forums, or in your case "discord"...lets see that would come to about $21.46 and hour. Of course BoSox is both an idiot and dishonest with what he says.

All of this does not really matter anyway. By the time you reach 50 years of age you very well may be sitting on anywhere from 3 to 6 million in savings and you will have a new what do you call it oh yes a partner in the legal way or aspect of things. Someone who is I expect will be about 18 to 20 years of age and the love of your life. You will have your dick so far up his ass that you will not be able to see the forest from the trees and end up passing away making the young fella happy as hell as well as his secret boyfriend with the windfall.

Listen, Dick Licker, before you get all upset and have your period and call me whatever you are the one who turned this real personnel. Anyway, you always ask for it with some of the shit that you post as I think you enjoy confrontations. Tasha, please stay out of it and keep your dumb stupid mouth shut.

[kewlJ]

By the time you reach 50 years of age you very well may be sitting on anywhere from 3 to 6 million in savings

I hope so, but doubtful.

and you will have a new what do you call it oh yes a partner in the legal way or aspect of things. Someone who is I expect will be about 18 to 20 years of age and the love of your life.

Ya think?? I have never been into the young twink type dudes. While my current beau is younger than me, he is still almost 30.

You will have your dick so far up his ass that you will not be able to see the forest from the trees

I doubt this as well. This is not an activity I have ever had much of an interest in. But it is odd and kind of creepy that you and several others continue to spend as much time as you do, thinking about my sex life.

and end up passing away making the young fella happy as hell as well as his secret boyfriend with the windfall.

Boy, it seems like you spend an aweful lot of time thinking about me.

before you get all upset and have your period and call me whatever you are the one who turned this real personnel.

That clearly isn't true. You started attacking me months ago. I tried ignoring you and when people contacted me privately asking what your problem was, I even asked some to just let it go and let you go through whatever you were going through. When none of that worked, and you kept it up, I finally answered your trolling back.

But hey, you do and say whatever you need to do and say, to make yourself feel better.

[monet]

How does one open or shut their mouth on an internet message board??