Like fucking clockwork

[kewlJ]

Maybe someone else who lives in Los Vegas can answer the following three questions:

Is the cost of living in Los Vegas high? The reason for the question is that I have only opinions related to this thread pertaining to KewlJ which may not be accurate which I will now state. I believe the cost of living reasonably well in Los Vegas is high. From reading a few of the forums often it seems that KJ appears to be living a good life and I wonder how he is doing this based on his journey reports. Just how can he have $600K or so in savings, A very nice paid off in full high rise condo in over a 12-year span with earnings of 1.2 million over that time span while always paying his taxes in full as well as paying all his bills over the 12 years? That question seems much harder to answer than how he goes about his business totally undetected. I tend to believe that he could not be living both a good life and paying uncle sam as what he has been disclosing on forums, those numbers does not seem to add up to me. Does someone else have a more informed
opinion on the matter?

It depends. For me there is nowhere that I could live cheaper in the US. I eat out almost every meal for the cost of a tip. Property taxes are low. Utilities are reasonable. No state income tax. The only thing I can think of that is high is gas. But since the valley is so condensed it could be twice as high and not add up to anything substantial. I personally couldn't live in a 3rd world country for less.

All good points. Like maxpen, for the first 11 years I, my partner and my brother over 5 years of that time, all ate out at least once a day, basically for free. The last 18 months since covid that has changed. This really reduces grocery bills.

Another cost efficent thing about Las Vegas, not so much cost of living, but kind of related is cheap and easy travel. The airport is really easy, efficent and well run, never much lines, with cheap airfare to almost everywhere. I know of one AP that moved to Vegas because of the easy and cheap flights everywhere. He claims he doesn't even play Vegas.

And concerning my own finances, I forgot to mention that I have bought and sold 3 properties (not including my current condo) in my time here, making a pretty good profit on two. The other was basically a break even proposition as I only owned a second rental property a short time before selling it for roughly what I bought it for. I did have rental income for a year though.

[MaxPen]

You just never learn. If you ask for proof then you need to put in the correct information into the question. And yes, this is one method of determining who the "smart" ones are. You, for instance, have been making ludicrous online claims for years, and as has been said before, your collars do not match your cuffs.

As for me....I live quite a different life than you or any of your casino rat pals in LV. And you seem to know that based on your sudden no-shows here when our RV was being sold. You guys just didn't want your pretend BS to come to an end so you both took the coward's way out. Understandable though. And you've gotta love how max got so uneasy watching you and your own bet fizzle as you ran away from it (like you did when you faked your own death ) so he brings up his lies about the houses I purchased again. You people live such nothing lives (yeah he thinks his one trip overseas makes him a world traveller) because all you know is casinos...and he can't even afford to hire a contractor to remodel a stinking bathroom! So he brings up his lies about our homes etc., when if he really wanted to dig he'd see my daughter and her hubby have 6 homes in four states and counting, and they got their start by mortgaging the homes I paid cash for.

It's all so foolish watching you clowns squirm over the successful lives of others, and how you have to lie about them AND YOURSELVES in order to cope in such a world where you people just don't feel like you measure up.

arci's life went down the tubes because he too put AP gambling before all else. Do YOU have any better hope for your future? You guys are in a rut and you know it. And that's why you hate people like me who see you for what you are.

Wise up.

Is this the stuff you concoct in your head for comfort as you get rocked to sleep by the wind blowing up against your camper?

Really,,,, you should just be proud that you raised a child with enough responsibility to take care of you in your twilight years.

[MaxPen]

Maybe someone else who lives in Los Vegas can answer the following three questions:

Is the cost of living in Los Vegas high? The reason for the question is that I have only opinions related to this thread pertaining to KewlJ which may not be accurate which I will now state. I believe the cost of living reasonably well in Los Vegas is high. From reading a few of the forums often it seems that KJ appears to be living a good life and I wonder how he is doing this based on his journey reports. Just how can he have $600K or so in savings, A very nice paid off in full high rise condo in over a 12-year span with earnings of 1.2 million over that time span while always paying his taxes in full as well as paying all his bills over the 12 years? That question seems much harder to answer than how he goes about his business totally undetected. I tend to believe that he could not be living both a good life and paying uncle sam as what he has been disclosing on forums, those numbers does not seem to add up to me. Does someone else have a more informed
opinion on the matter?

It depends. For me there is nowhere that I could live cheaper in the US. I eat out almost every meal for the cost of a tip. Property taxes are low. Utilities are reasonable. No state income tax. The only thing I can think of that is high is gas. But since the valley is so condensed it could be twice as high and not add up to anything substantial. I personally couldn't live in a 3rd world country for less.

A single middle age guy can live VERY WELL in several 2nd/3rd world countries for 1500$-2000$ month. I've been looking at several places that fit the bill.

My fixed costs are pretty much right there. Everything above $1500 is discretionary. This does not assume future replacement cost for vehicles and such, of course.

[BoSox]

It depends. For me there is nowhere that I could live cheaper in the US. I eat out almost every meal for the cost of a tip. Property taxes are low. Utilities are reasonable. No state income tax. The only thing I can think of that is high is gas. But since the valley is so condensed it could be twice as high and not add up to anything substantial. I personally couldn't live in a 3rd world country for less.

A single middle age guy can live VERY WELL in several 2nd/3rd world countries for 1500$-2000$ month. I've been looking at several places that fit the bill.

My fixed costs are pretty much right there. Everything above $1500 is discretionary. This does not assume future replacement cost for vehicles and such, of course.

My goodness, what a surprise I could live very well there. I heard that in Laughlin the gaming sucks but the place is loaded with slightly older women sounds right up my alley.

[MaxPen]

A single middle age guy can live VERY WELL in several 2nd/3rd world countries for 1500$-2000$ month. I've been looking at several places that fit the bill.

My fixed costs are pretty much right there. Everything above $1500 is discretionary. This does not assume future replacement cost for vehicles and such, of course.

My goodness, what a surprise I could live very well there. I heard that in Laughlin the gaming sucks but the place is loaded with slightly older women sounds right up my alley.

If you own your home and everything else then Vegas probably has the lowest cost of living without sacrificing any comforts or experiences than any place in the world. But I also pretty much have a workaround for just about every aspect of life too. I am constantly amazed at what other people believe to be the facts of life...... RIP

[Ozzy]

It makes total sense for most AP'S who aren't willing to travel around much to be located in Vegas. If someone is willing to travel around North America, then they can basically have room/food completely covered if they play their cards right. I did it for several years, mostly gas and some wear/tear on the vehicle. I ate a buffet for my meal every day/ every other day and very rarely had to cough up for a room, maybe 20-30 times a year.

[redietz]

I spent 90-100 days in Las Vegas every year for the better part of 30 years. The biggest difference from the first year to the 30th in terms of cost was the amount I could deduct for meals. initially the business meal expense per diem was very small, in the bottom third of U.S. cities. Not sure it's still the case, but at the time, the IRS assigned cities into categories for meal deductions. My last year, the meal cost per diem had jumped into the top third, and LV was considered an "expensive" meal city.

[ZenKinG]

Bump. This thread is being bumped until I get someone with verifiable proof that is up on the main floor shoe games with a decent sample size at Caesars Palace LV/AC, Planet Hollywood, Mandalay Bay, San Manuel, Harrah's PA or any Harrah's in general, and all of Southern California shoe games. SHOE games only. I will bump this every fucking day until I get verifiable proof

[kewlJ]

My last year, the meal cost per diem had jumped into the top third, and LV was considered an "expensive" meal city.

That is true if you are paying for the meal. Most places are comping half the meals so they bump up the price and are able to write it off as higher amount. Doesn't really add to the bottom, line, just an accounting trick. So what YOU gotta do is be in that 50% that are getting comped. Don't you get comps and earn point (probably not much in points) for your sportswagering action?

[mickeycrimm]

Look, here is the situation. For 20+ years Rob Singer has trolled the AP community on numerous forums. He has had all kinds of claims during that time. 10 years worth of progressive wagering wins totaling millions. Later amended to 4 years to make room for the double up bug claim which he stole from a news account. I don't even know all the claims

You have proof that Rob stole the double up claim from a news story? I put up a $1000 reward on that. Put up the proof and the 1K is yours.

[kewlJ]

Bump. This thread is being bumped until I get someone with verifiable proof that is up on the main floor shoe games with a decent sample size at Caesars Palace LV/AC, Planet Hollywood, Mandalay Bay, San Manuel, Harrah's PA or any Harrah's in general, and all of Southern California shoe games. SHOE games only. I will bump this every fucking day until I get verifiable proof

Just stop it! There is no proof available that will satisfy you. The closest thing would be a casinos internal documents and records on a player showing lifetime win. No one can get their hands on that. Plus THAT won't even be accurate for any player that 1.) plays some sessions unrated and 2.) ratholes.

The second best, and probably most accuarte record is each players individual records, but you won't accept that. So just stop. you are asking for something that no player can provide if they even wanted to and really, who wants to prove anything to YOU.

[kewlJ]

Look, here is the situation. For 20+ years Rob Singer has trolled the AP community on numerous forums. He has had all kinds of claims during that time. 10 years worth of progressive wagering wins totaling millions. Later amended to 4 years to make room for the double up bug claim which he stole from a news account. I don't even know all the claims

You have proof that Rob stole the double up claim from a news story? I put up a $1000 reward on that. Put up the proof and the 1K is yours.

No I don't. It is a fair point you make, BUT the claim is just so extrordinary, such a claim almost demands proof. It is far different than anyone saying I made this or that on this play or even I made this amount doing this (+EV thing) this year. And that is exactly why not one, both both forum owners/administrators, Shackleford and Dan Druff, both asked Rob for some kind of proof. I mean who else has Shackleford or Dan Druff asked proof of. This was just so extrordinary.

[MisterV]

Bump. This thread is being bumped until I get someone with verifiable proof that is up on the main floor shoe games with a decent sample size at Caesars Palace LV/AC, Planet Hollywood, Mandalay Bay, San Manuel, Harrah's PA or any Harrah's in general, and all of Southern California shoe games. SHOE games only. I will bump this every fucking day until I get verifiable proof

Given your obvious mental illness I suspect you will in fact continue to do so.

Good; at least your manic keyboarding helps keep you from shooting up casinos.

You really should pull the plug on making it as a card counter on Las Vegas strip casinos; go home to the folks, pull up the covers and dream of what might have been ...

[redietz]

My last year, the meal cost per diem had jumped into the top third, and LV was considered an "expensive" meal city.

That is true if you are paying for the meal. Most places are comping half the meals so they bump up the price and are able to write it off as higher amount. Doesn't really add to the bottom, line, just an accounting trick. So what YOU gotta do is be in that 50% that are getting comped. Don't you get comps and earn point (probably not much in points) for your sportswagering action?

At one time, when I started, sports books comped real well. A dollar bet on sports got you as much as a dollar bet in the race books. The best at the time was Circus-Circus, believe it or not, where I think it was $125, and then later $200 bet, got you a dollar in comps. Pretty soon, the best you could get was roughly $400 bet got you a dollar in comps, at Westgate and another place or two. By the time I finished, and why I started playing some video poker in the first place, many places had squeezed off sports betting as something that should be comped. The Wynn wanted 20K in action to give you lunch that day.

And this doesn't even address that, initially, you could get discretionary comps. Sports book knew you, you'd just ask, no formal process needed for breakfast or lunch. Today, if you ask for a discretionary comp, they look at you as if you asked for a kidney.

However, now that sports betting has become multi-state for some of the big corps, there are some comp comebacks available for sports. I mentioned this in a comment to a Jean Scott blog. I'll keep that under my hat until next year, but some comp things got easier.

[MaxPen]

Look, here is the situation. For 20+ years Rob Singer has trolled the AP community on numerous forums. He has had all kinds of claims during that time. 10 years worth of progressive wagering wins totaling millions. Later amended to 4 years to make room for the double up bug claim which he stole from a news account. I don't even know all the claims

You have proof that Rob stole the double up claim from a news story? I put up a $1000 reward on that. Put up the proof and the 1K is yours.

This is why you will forever be known as Man Servant....lol

I offered up 1000's for simple photos in the Newell. Crickets

[kewlJ]

You really should pull the plug on making it as a card counter on Las Vegas strip casinos; go home to the folks, pull up the covers and dream of what might have been ...

I don't know. I did say basically the same thing a week ago or whenever he started these 2 threads (this latest go around). But in reality, he has done ok, not spectacular, not GOAT, but ok. His first 3 years he simply didn't play enough. I don't know if he didn't realize card counting at this level is a grind type thing requiring lots of play, or if he got frustrated after losing sessions / periods and took a break or what, but he clearly wasn't playing enough to earn decent money.

I cut him some lack because in addition to starting his card counting "career", he relocated 2500 miles away from friends and family, apparently the first time on his own at age 30. While that seems late to most of us, it is what it is. He was dealing with being on his own at the same time as trying to make a living card counting. We can make fun of it, but it IS an additional obstacle.

So it seems he learned and realized he had to play more and at some time in the last year or year and a half has done that and started earning more, building his bankroll and building savings. So that is all good.

The only problems are and they are 2 big ones, is he takes everything personally, every losing session, every losing hand it seems. If you are playing with any kind of decent spread (between your minimum wager and max wager) and he is, then you are going to encounter huge variance at times, huge losses. You simply can not take that personally, think that casino is cheating or out to get you. You just keep playing. It is a war you are trying to win, not every single battle. Or football terms: You are trying to win the game, but you are not going to keep the opponent from ever gatting a first down or even scoring. That is just not the way it works. BIG PICTURE. all the time think: BIG PICTURE (or longrun).

So those are the two issues. It seems to me he should be able to handle them by now, to have moved past this point, but maybe everyone is different. Hopefully some day soon, it will just click and he will start thinking BIG PICTURE and long run and stop worrying about every set back.

[AxelWolf]

I'm sure there would be a way to do it where it's not considered a bet,

If there is please tell me because I would like to do it. I am going by what an attorney "friend" who took the time to contact me, because he was concerned said, and he said it would be illegal which guarantees, I would not get paid. So if you know a way it can be structured differently so that it is legal and guarantees I will get paid. please tell me and I will see what the attorney thinks.

I haven't put much thought into how it could be structured (I edited your spelling)and since I'm not an attorney so it would take a fair amount of research, and all for nothing.... since there is zero chance Rob would be willing to put up that kind of money if he thought you were confident you would win.

If You guys were both serious enough about this you would find a way to get it done. I'm sure someone like Dan would be willing to arbitrate and hold the money.

OFC there is always a chance somthing could happen to Dan leaving the money in limbo so you would have to designate an alternate person who u guys trusted that also has access. Actully, I would make it so both of them had to come to the same conclusion. I would also suggest using a stable crypto coin where both of them have access to the private keys.

FYI, I apologize for getting snarky, lack of sleep put me in a mood.

[kewlJ]

I haven't put much thought into how it could be structured (I edited your spelling)

This is all I have gotten to so far, but JUST WAIT A MINUTE!!!!

I am admittedly horrible with spelling and grammer. I would say the second worst I have seen. Do you get my drift here???? YOU corrected my spelling??? and are pointing it out?? You must have some big gonads.

[Ozzy]

I haven't put much thought into how it could be structured (I edited your spelling)

This is all I have gotten to so far, but JUST WAIT A MINUTE!!!!

I am admittedly horrible with spelling and grammer. I would say the second worst I have seen. Do you get my drift here???? YOU corrected my spelling??? and are pointing it out?? You must have some big gonads.

I annihilate both of you guys in spelling/grammar/structure. Kew has everyone beat for marathon posts, decimating the previous champ Mission. Even with my horrible writing skills, I make the effort to not be a one line warrior like a few hardcores around here

[ZenKinG]

Bump. This thread is being bumped until I get someone with verifiable proof that is up on the main floor shoe games with a decent sample size at Caesars Palace LV/AC, Planet Hollywood, Mandalay Bay, San Manuel, Harrah's PA or any Harrah's in general, and all of Southern California shoe games. SHOE games only. I will bump this every fucking day until I get verifiable proof