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  1. #41
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    But let's not stop there. How about you provide YOUR 3 most recent IRS summaries to show the world of critics that you are nothing but truthful? Can you do it....or are you still afraid because you know you'll be labeled a big liar afterwards?
    Nice try TOAT. I made my offer of the only way I would ever consider showing my tax returs, that would be a third party that I trusted to keep my name and identity confidential. Dan Druff would be acceptable. And then only for a substantial wager and YOU would have to put money up front, because you have proven yourself to be untrustworthy for decades now.

    So that is the offer. I suspect you will ignore it and deflect as usual.

  2. #42
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    But let's not stop there. How about you provide YOUR 3 most recent IRS summaries to show the world of critics that you are nothing but truthful? Can you do it....or are you still afraid because you know you'll be labeled a big liar afterwards?
    Nice try TOAT. I made my offer of the only way I would ever consider showing my tax returs, that would be a third party that I trusted to keep my name and identity confidential. Dan Druff would be acceptable. And then only for a substantial wager and YOU would have to put money up front, because you have proven yourself to be untrustworthy for decades now.

    So that is the offer. I suspect you will ignore it and deflect as usual.
    What is a substantial enough wager for you to partake in this type of bet?


    Rob, the ball is in your court, but I'm certain this will never happen.

  3. #43
    I already know your name kew, and what makes you believe that I care anything at all about where you live. If there was any possible upside of having your address you'd have known it by now.

    Now you want money to show your IRS info. That's ok with me but you'll have to put your $$ where your lying mouth is. Funny, arci never wanted anything from anybody to produce his.
    I put the $505k we sold the Newell for into a retirement account. I'll withdraw that and you have our bet amount. But you have to have the IRS send the summaries to me, not some other jealous Singer hater. And, I in turn will show you, not just post, the bill of sale from the RV. I will also show you the transaction history of when I transferred money for my children to pay cash for the four houses in order to simplify inevitable probate. And both parties put the money into escrow, not just me you idiot.

    Are you in?

  4. #44
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    What is a substantial enough wager for you to partake in this type of bet?

    Rob, the ball is in your court, but I'm certain this will never happen.
    I don't know. I would have to think about it and see no reason to at the moment because this kind of wager never happens. It is always just talk that fizzles.

    It would depend on the people involved. Even with someone I trust, the info I am most anxious to protect, my identy, would probably leak out, even somebody involved telling a friend confidentially ect. (I think you understand what I am saying)

    So the question becomes: how much is it worth to me to have that information that could severely damage my whole career and existance possibly get out?

    Answer: It is going to be a substantial amount.

  5. #45
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I put the $505k we sold the Newell for into a retirement account. I'll withdraw that and you have our bet amount. But you have to have the IRS send the summaries to me, not some other jealous Singer hater. And, I in turn will show you, not just post, the bill of sale from the RV. I will also show you the transaction history of when I transferred money for my children to pay cash for the four houses in order to simplify inevitable probate. And both parties put the money into escrow, not just me you idiot.

    Are you in?
    I am IN! with conditions, mine not yours.

    I have a delivery coming momentarily, so I will get back to you in few minutes.

  6. #46
    Only you get conditions? That's funny kew. I'm proposing we both abide by the same rules. A delivery? Sounds curiously like another concoction period.

  7. #47
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    What is a substantial enough wager for you to partake in this type of bet?

    Rob, the ball is in your court, but I'm certain this will never happen.
    I don't know. I would have to think about it and see no reason to at the moment because this kind of wager never happens. It is always just talk that fizzles.

    It would depend on the people involved. Even with someone I trust, the info I am most anxious to protect, my identy, would probably leak out, even somebody involved telling a friend confidentially ect. (I think you understand what I am saying)

    So the question becomes: how much is it worth to me to have that information that could severely damage my whole career and existance possibly get out?

    Answer: It is going to be a substantial amount.
    Now it sounds like kew is going to kill himself again.

    I'm in on that!

  8. #48
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I already know your name kew, and what makes you believe that I care anything at all about where you live. If there was any possible upside of having your address you'd have known it by now.

    Now you want money to show your IRS info. That's ok with me but you'll have to put your $$ where your lying mouth is. Funny, arci never wanted anything from anybody to produce his.
    I put the $505k we sold the Newell for into a retirement account. I'll withdraw that and you have our bet amount. But you have to have the IRS send the summaries to me, not some other jealous Singer hater. And, I in turn will show you, not just post, the bill of sale from the RV. I will also show you the transaction history of when I transferred money for my children to pay cash for the four houses in order to simplify inevitable probate. And both parties put the money into escrow, not just me you idiot.

    Are you in?
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  9. #49
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Only you get conditions? That's funny kew. I'm proposing we both abide by the same rules. A delivery? Sounds curiously like another concoction period.
    come down fool. I am almost ready.

  10. #50
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I already know your name kew, and what makes you believe that I care anything at all about where you live. If there was any possible upside of having your address you'd have known it by now.

    Now you want money to show your IRS info. That's ok with me but you'll have to put your $$ where your lying mouth is. Funny, arci never wanted anything from anybody to produce his.
    I put the $505k we sold the Newell for into a retirement account. I'll withdraw that and you have our bet amount. But you have to have the IRS send the summaries to me, not some other jealous Singer hater. And, I in turn will show you, not just post, the bill of sale from the RV. I will also show you the transaction history of when I transferred money for my children to pay cash for the four houses in order to simplify inevitable probate. And both parties put the money into escrow, not just me you idiot.

    Are you in?
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    Not sure what that means....but you might want to stay away from this.

  11. #51
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Only you get conditions? That's funny kew. I'm proposing we both abide by the same rules. A delivery? Sounds curiously like another concoction period.
    come down fool. I am almost ready.
    How is it you're "busy" yet you just can't stay away? Take your time concocting something. We understand.

  12. #52
    So here are my terms.

    I have never claimed to make millions and millions from math defying claims, nor a claim I stole from news accounts. I have made 1.2 M in my time here in Las Vegas. Now about half of that went for me to live...living expenses including taxes. So my net worth is only 5-6 hundred k and half of that is tied up in my condo, which is paid in full and I am not interested in liquidating or taking a mortage out on. The remaining money consists of my BR and some savings.

    So I am willing to wager $150k. That is roughly 2 years blackjack EV for me and should my worst fears come true and my identity get out, causing jeopardy to my career, I could take a break from blackjack for a couple years and probably continue. So $150k. That is the amount I am interested in. I also would be able to survive this should the abitrator I am placing trust turn out to be not so honest.

    Now I am not interested in any escrow, probably run by a son-inlaw or nephew of yours. I want the money out of your hands, so you can't reneg. It has to go to the agreed arbitrator, and we will have legal documentation of him accepting responsibility and for what. I also will submit my funds in advancae as that is only fair.

    And finally, I am not interested in seeing any doctored documentation from you. I have already been down that road, with your phony bill of sales. I just have no interest in you and your finaces any more. I know all I need to know.

    So that is my terms. I suppose I could be a little flexible on the amount, but not on you absolutely releasing the money prior to anything. Releasing it so that you can't get your hands back on it and reneg.

    Let me know. Also I want this to happen fairly quickly. Not going to play your internet troll games.

  13. #53
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So here are my terms.

    I have never claimed to make millions and millions from math defying claims, nor a claim I stole from news accounts. I have made 1.2 M in my time here in Las Vegas. Now about half of that went for me to live...living expenses including taxes. So my net worth is only 5-6 hundred k and half of that is tied up in my condo, which is paid in full and I am not interested in liquidating or taking a mortage out on. The remaining money consists of my BR and some savings.

    So I am willing to wager $150k. That is roughly 2 years blackjack EV for me and should my worst fears come true and my identity get out, causing jeopardy to my career, I could take a break from blackjack for a couple years and probably continue. So $150k. That is the amount I am interested in. I also would be able to survive this should the abitrator I am placing trust turn out to be not so honest.

    Now I am not interested in any escrow, probably run by a son-inlaw or nephew of yours. I want the money out of your hands, so you can't reneg. It has to go to the agreed arbitrator, and we will have legal documentation of him accepting responsibility and for what. I also will submit my funds in advancae as that is only fair.

    And finally, I am not interested in seeing any doctored documentation from you. I have already been down that road, with your phony bill of sales. I just have no interest in you and your finaces any more. I know all I need to know.

    So that is my terms. I suppose I could be a little flexible on the amount, but not on you absolutely releasing the money prior to anything. Releasing it so that you can't get your hands back on it and reneg.

    Let me know. Also I want this to happen fairly quickly. Not going to play your internet troll games.
    I don't feel like going back and trying to figure out what exactly you are going to be proving. I guess it's somthing like this...That you averaged 90k a year for the last 3 years on your AP and blackjack play? This would not include any covid money, investments, inheritance, etc etc.

  14. #54
    Well who didn't expect another nervous essay like that? You certainly could have done a better job though.

    The extra offerings I made about viewing my retirement account would only be an in-person viewing on a computer with me logging in, and not documentation such as my secondary Bill of Sale that's used only for out-of-state DMV purposes. You fools immediately jumped on it because you cloistered casino rats know nothing of the outside world. Computer viewing is as simple as it gets. That's because you have shown that you know Nothing about my resources and I have zero problem making you feel stupid after seeing them. And it's all for "free"....free to the extent that the amount of the bet you'll lose will cover it. But it's your choice, and either way is ok.

    The bet amount: you said significant. It stands to reason that someone your age would view $150k as "significant" compared to what I view as that. How about we split the difference--$325k? You would think being so sure that you'll win this that you'd get your "hopeful supporters" rounded up to help you amass $505k. Shouldn't be too hard. I wrote a challenge follow-up article practically begging Fezzik and Anthony Curtis to get as many Huntington Press folks to pitch in to match the escrow of $640k I put up at the Casuarina casino, all fully verified before I wrote the article. You see, THAT'S how you proceed when you're telling the truth and you know you will win. Not this excuse-laden downgrading.

    So since you did not mention it are you ok with having the IRS send your forms to me? I see no other way, given how often you weasel mouth your way around just about everything.

    I don't have an issue with an agreed-to arbitrator.

  15. #55
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I don't feel like going back and trying to figure out what exactly you are going to be proving. I guess it's somthing like this...That you averaged 90k a year for the last 3 years on your AP and blackjack play? This would not include any covid money, investments, inheritance, etc etc.

    Geez, I guess we didn't really cover that, but no I didn't average 90k in blackjack last 3 years. I have shared both as I was going through it and many times since that Last year (2020) was the worst year of my carreer for blackjack, as I made 14k, after being in the red most of the year. I know without looking that 2019 was above expectation over 6 figures and 2018, slightly below expectation, about 70k. (these are blackjack only results).

    Since I generally post exactly what I made at the end of each year, I will go back and find my claims for thse 3 years and my tax returns gambling income will match exactly. That is the wager.

    Although the numbers on my returns will be higher because they will include non blackjack AP winnings as well, but still will match what I said each year.

  16. #56
    Plus, not a big point but I don't even know where this 90k figure came from. I have average 80k from blackjack (I think it is 79k after last year) and just over 100k total AP for the last 11 years. Maybe singer came up with 90k by middling those two numbers or maybe he just made it up as he tends to do.

  17. #57
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So here are my terms.

    I have never claimed to make millions and millions from math defying claims, nor a claim I stole from news accounts. I have made 1.2 M in my time here in Las Vegas. Now about half of that went for me to live...living expenses including taxes. So my net worth is only 5-6 hundred k and half of that is tied up in my condo, which is paid in full and I am not interested in liquidating or taking a mortage out on. The remaining money consists of my BR and some savings.

    So I am willing to wager $150k. That is roughly 2 years blackjack EV for me and should my worst fears come true and my identity get out, causing jeopardy to my career, I could take a break from blackjack for a couple years and probably continue. So $150k. That is the amount I am interested in. I also would be able to survive this should the abitrator I am placing trust turn out to be not so honest.

    Now I am not interested in any escrow, probably run by a son-inlaw or nephew of yours. I want the money out of your hands, so you can't reneg. It has to go to the agreed arbitrator, and we will have legal documentation of him accepting responsibility and for what. I also will submit my funds in advancae as that is only fair.

    And finally, I am not interested in seeing any doctored documentation from you. I have already been down that road, with your phony bill of sales. I just have no interest in you and your finaces any more. I know all I need to know.

    So that is my terms. I suppose I could be a little flexible on the amount, but not on you absolutely releasing the money prior to anything. Releasing it so that you can't get your hands back on it and reneg.

    Let me know. Also I want this to happen fairly quickly. Not going to play your internet troll games.
    I don't feel like going back and trying to figure out what exactly you are going to be proving. I guess it's somthing like this...That you averaged 90k a year for the last 3 years on your AP and blackjack play? This would not include any covid money, investments, inheritance, etc etc.
    He needs to prove only the $90k+/year gambling income reported, net, from the 3 most recent years ('20/'19/'18). And he also needs to prove he can keep his hands to himself when standing nearby a guy who's packing a monster.

    BTW I'll check in again in the morning. No I'm not waiting for UPS. We're going out for dinner.
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 08-31-2021 at 04:39 PM.

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  19. #59
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    He needs to prove only the $90k+/year gambling income reported, net, from the 3 most recent years ('20/'19/'18). And he also needs to prove he can keep his hands to himself when standing nearby a guy who's packing a monster.
    THAT is not what I claimed or reported. I will go back and find the actual posts of what I claimed reported and that is what my returns will show. That is the bets. Well THAT is the bet if you accept. Otherwise, stop wasting my time, grandpa.

  20. #60
    This zenkinG coconut must be related to the john-o cuz he has the same style to him. He squeal nonsenses and bulls shits like a little beta-bitch about casino supposedly cheating him. Then at the same times he harumph and bluster that he's the best cards counter of all times, hey hey.

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