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  1. #1
    I am going to post this at the two forums I post at that Mdawg posts at or has posted at, here GF and VCT but would hope that WoV would be a part of this challenge.

    So since Mdawg has expanded his "magical winning fantasy" to include blackjack, he has posted about 20 high limit private table, blackjack sessions, winning 18 and losing 2 for a total of + $135,675. He talks about "spreading $200 to $5000 or $10,000". In blackjack card counting "spreading" is defined as the minimum wager when the player is not at an advantage and the player's top or Max bet when he is playing with an advantage.

    No Las Vegas casino would allow Mdawg to spread like this if he were card counting and moving money with the count, so he is probably referring to "spreading" as varying his wagers according to his (losing) progressive wagering system. Progression wagering cannot over come negative expectation.....Period!

    So I propose we put Mdawg and his magical winning ways to the test. No high money wager because that NEVER works. Those wagers can always be manipulated and corrupted with collaboration with an arbitrator. I want to remove the arbitrator and allow the forum members to be the arbitrator so to speak.

    So here is what I am proposing: No money involved, just a chance for Mdawg to prove his claims to the huge majority of members that doubt him (all but his sockpuppets).

    So I will make myself or someone else available to witness and film the next 20 Mdawg blackjack sessions. The filming shouldn't be an issue. If slot lady and others can film blackjack sessions at casinos, I am quite sure a highroller like Mdawg, and his Host that can arrange anything can set this up at a private table for such an important player. All I request is that the cards be spread out as normal casino procedure to ensure they are all there.

    So I or someone of my choosing will be available with 30 minutes notice to witness and film Mdawgs next 20 sessions to be shown on the forums. And let's just see if he wins $135k, or half that or wins at all. Oh, and you have my word that your anonymity will be protected as we will not show your face.

    This is a free roll for you Mdawg to prove all the doubters wrong. The expense and inconvenience will all be on my end. We can start to settle these magical claims, starting on the blackjack end and who knows maybe moving on to baccarat after that.

    Awaiting your response.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  2. #2
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Oh, and you have my word that your anonymity will be protected as we will not show your face.
    He should accept only if you agree to have 20 sessions filmed as well.

    You can alternate playing at the same tables.

  3. #3
    KewlJ, you don't understand. First of all, MDawg doesn't want his godlike abilities to be brought down by the negativity of an unbelieving witness. Second, he's already been verified, as he keeps saying, by the great and powerful Shackleford, financed by darkoz. What need has he to prove himself to the likes of me and thee? He's "verified by Wizard."

    Here's the thing about NDAs. There's usually nothing in an NDA about disclosing the text of the NDA. I think there is value in pushing for Shackleford to reveal the text of the NDA so everyone knows the terms of the contract.

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Oh, and you have my word that your anonymity will be protected as we will not show your face.
    He should accept only if you agree to have 20 sessions filmed as well.

    You can alternate playing at the same tables.
    My claims do not defy the mathematics and reality of how Las Vegas works. My claims are not 1 in 89 QUADrillion possibilities.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    My claims do not defy the mathematics and reality of how Las Vegas works.
    That doesn't matter to anyone who doesn't believe you.

    You don't get to call all the shots fool...now put up or shut up.

  6. #6
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Here's the thing about NDAs. There's usually nothing in an NDA about disclosing the text of the NDA. I think there is value in pushing for Shackleford to reveal the text of the NDA so everyone knows the terms of the contract.
    Go for it...you're both members at WOV.

  7. #7
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    KewlJ, you don't understand. First of all, MDawg doesn't want his godlike abilities to be brought down by the negativity of an unbelieving witness. Second, he's already been verified, as he keeps saying, by the great and powerful Shackleford, financed by darkoz. What need has he to prove himself to the likes of me and thee? He's "verified by Wizard."

    Here's the thing about NDAs. There's usually nothing in an NDA about disclosing the text of the NDA. I think there is value in pushing for Shackleford to reveal the text of the NDA so everyone knows the terms of the contract.
    Yes, Wizard witnessed a session of Mdawgs play. And while I have no doubt it was a winning session just as reported. (Most sessions of a progression wagering systems will be winning sessions....it is those fewer big losing sessions, that Mdawg does not report, that wipes away all those win).

    So while Wizard witnessed the session, he was restricted from telling us that it was not a winning type of play that can results in all the winning claimed. Since Wizard didn't deliver on what he promised to do, report back about Mdawgs play, I want to open it up for everyone to be the witness....every single member of every forum where these claims have been made gets to be the witness. What could be better

    For a guy that seeks the attention that Mdawg seeks, so much so that he has been posting these ridiculous claims and "adventures" for several years now on 4 or 5 different forums, this is a change for him to shine. Prove everyone wrong and get the attention he seeks.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So I propose we put Mdawg and his magical winning ways to the test. No high money wager because that NEVER works. Those wagers can always be manipulated and corrupted with collaboration with an arbitrator. I want to remove the arbitrator and allow the forum members to be the arbitrator so to speak.

    So here is what I am proposing: No money involved, just a chance for Mdawg to prove his claims to the huge majority of members that doubt him (all but his sockpuppets).
    You are living in a dreamworld if you think the Great MDawg will humbly submit to your inspection.

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Prove everyone wrong and get the attention he seeks.
    He's already got the attention plus the money he won, he doesn't need to prove anyone wrong...except maybe you.

    You'd put him in a tough spot if you agreed to have the same conditions you outlined applied to you as well.

    So put up or shut up.

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by OnceDear View Post

    You are living in a dreamworld if you think the Great MDawg will humbly submit to your inspection.
    What do you put the odds at? 1 in 89 QUADillion?
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by OnceDear View Post
    You are living in a dreamworld if you think the Great MDawg will humbly submit to your inspection.
    He already submitted to an inspection.

    He's likely up for it again if tewlj will also agree to have his sessions witnessed and filmed by MDawg's agent.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    What do you put the odds at? 1 in 89 QUADillion?
    I'll let you give better odds than that.

    I'll bet MDawg will agree if you also agree to have your sessions witnessed and filmed by him or an agent of his choosing.

  13. #13
    In accordance with Dan's Druffs forum rules, I am requesting that coach belly and his posts be removed from trolling this (my) thread. So maybe some time in the next week when Druff shows up, we can get that done.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    posts be removed from trolling this (my) thread.
    I'm not trolling, I'm fully supporting this challenge.

    So far I'm the only one who has voiced any support.

    I'm encouraging you to apply the same conditions to yourself as you have to MDawg, in an endeavor to make this challenge happen.

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    posts be removed from trolling this (my) thread.
    I'm not trolling, I'm fully supporting this challenge.

    So far I'm the only one who has voiced any support.

    I'm encouraging you to apply the same conditions to yourself as you have to MDawg, in an endeavor to make this challenge happen.

    LOL. Good ole coach. So I assume the way around this is for someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about anonymity to volunteer to do this instead of kewlJ.

    Gee, I wonder who we could get?

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by OnceDear View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So I propose we put Mdawg and his magical winning ways to the test. No high money wager because that NEVER works. Those wagers can always be manipulated and corrupted with collaboration with an arbitrator. I want to remove the arbitrator and allow the forum members to be the arbitrator so to speak.

    So here is what I am proposing: No money involved, just a chance for Mdawg to prove his claims to the huge majority of members that doubt him (all but his sockpuppets).
    You are living in a dreamworld if you think the Great MDawg will humbly submit to your inspection.
    You are a useful idiot and manipulated puppet of MDog. Shut the fuck up and carry yourself back to the cuck show at WoV.
    FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I wonder who we could get?
    I didn't see anything about preserving the challenger's anonymity being one of the conditions.

    Anyone who can accommodate this condition would qualify...

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    be available with 30 minutes notice to witness and film Mdawgs next 20 sessions to be shown on the forums.
    Does that help narrow it down for you?

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    posts be removed from trolling this (my) thread.
    I'm not trolling, I'm fully supporting this challenge.

    So far I'm the only one who has voiced any support.

    I'm encouraging you to apply the same conditions to yourself as you have to MDawg, in an endeavor to make this challenge happen.

    LOL. Good ole coach. So I assume the way around this is for someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about anonymity to volunteer to do this instead of kewlJ.

    Gee, I wonder who we could get?
    See this isn't about me. This is simply a challenge that would allow MDawg to silence all the doubters of his escalating claims.

    If someone feels the need to make some sort of challenge to me, they are free to do so, separately.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    See this isn't about me.
    You made this challenge, and named yourself as a participant, as either a witness or appointing a witness...so yeah this is about you.

    MDawg likely realizes that he can't silence all of his doubters, so he has issued a standing challenge designed to silence any doubter that accepts the challenge.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I wonder who we could get?
    I didn't see anything about preserving the challenger's anonymity being one of the conditions.

    Anyone who can accommodate this condition would qualify...

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    be available with 30 minutes notice to witness and film Mdawgs next 20 sessions to be shown on the forums.
    Does that help narrow it down for you?
    Good try, coach. I couldn't do it until after football, but would I camp in LV for two/three months and be on immediate notice to put the MDawg nonsense to rest? Yeah, I can think of worse ways to spend my time. I need to get my comp accounts back into decent shape, anyway, post-pandemic. And I do miss the coffee shops and buffets.

    It'll be fun. I can do all kinds of stuff with it. I have an indie filmmaker friend who could come for a visit during the action, and it'd be great blog fodder. Maybe fly in one of my friends who taught college probability for a quick onsite podcast review of the action.

    I'm getting psyched just thinking about it. I love debunking gigs.

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