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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Again, mdawg did not post or reveal your first name KewlJ! All he did was post an image at TruePassage of something you said under your other screen name KewlJason. He never even drew any attention to your first name at all!
    By making all this fuss you have now admitted what your first name was. You should have just left it alone. mdawg did not doxx you but in this thread now you are clearly doxxing mdawg!
    That you don't seem to know how revealing any portion of a real advantage players name, someone who makes a living from the casinos while the casinos do everything in their power to identify and stop that AP, is exactly why you should be banned from this forum. You are just too stupid....like mentally retarded stupid!

    I am not some rich, ying yany running around, claiming to play rated, pretending he is James bond and wins every time he plays. We are talking about a real advantage player here. If you don't understand how that is a line that should not be crossed and not allowed to be crossed on any forum, you really are a complete idiot.

    It is funny how every one of these scammers and bullshiters that come along, Singer, Moses, Mdawg,creating sockpuppets that are obvious to everyone for the sole purpose of misleading players and now a guy literally doxing an advantage player, in the hopes of harming his career and ability to earn money, you Tasha come down on the wrong side, always supporting these people. I don't believe a person can be THAT stupid and gullible, even someone who probably registers as legally retarded. I think it is intentional on your part.

    Either way, just shut the fuck up Tasha. Go find some other forum, completely unrelated to gambling and casino play.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 10-16-2021 at 10:32 AM.

  2. #22
    Yes, leave us and move to a website designed for folks in a coma; you should be able to post freely and without restriction there.

    Or if that doesn't appeal to you, then ala' Mudhead (of Firesign Theater fame), cut the soles off your shoes, sit in a tree and learn to play the flute.

    Here you receive little but scorn, racial hatred, vitriol and bitterness: this is after all the Lair Of Bitter White Men.
    Last edited by MisterV; 10-16-2021 at 11:04 AM.
    What, Me Worry?

  3. #23
    It has been brought to my attention that "doxxing" is occurring in this thead. Here are my findings.

    First names by themselves are not doxxing, in my opinion. Unless that person has revealed other identifying info, a first name alone usually cannot be used to find someone.

    However, the name of a law school was posted. I agree that enters into doxxing territory, especially given that MDawg never mentioned which law school he went to, and because it was combined with a first name.

    Therefore, I have removed the reference to the law school (changing it to <redacted>), and I will ask that going forward, nobody post that law school name here (or any hints as to what it is).

    I will also state for the record that I don't belive MDawg is a scammer, and shouldn't be treated like one. Do I believe he was truthful about his casino exploits? Obviously not. He does seem to bet large -- at least at times -- and I believe he does get some impressive comps. However, I believe him to be more of a casino whale than anything else, and not an AP or winning long term gambler. For whatever reason he wants to live a fantasy on these boards that he is a big winner. While I understand legitimate APs being irritated with these claims, it's important to understand that MDawg does not seem to be setting up any kind of monetary scam, nor does he have any history of ripping anyone off. He simply likes to tell tall tales.

    If he were an actual scammer, I would be onboard for revealing his info, but I have seen no evidence of that.
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  4. #24
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    It has been brought to my attention that "doxxing" is occurring in this thead. Here are my findings.

    First names by themselves are not doxxing, in my opinion. Unless that person has revealed other identifying info, a first name alone usually cannot be used to find someone.

    However, the name of a law school was posted. I agree that enters into doxxing territory, especially given that MDawg never mentioned which law school he went to, and because it was combined with a first name.

    Therefore, I have removed the reference to the law school (changing it to <redacted>), and I will ask that going forward, nobody post that law school name here (or any hints as to what it is).

    I will also state for the record that I don't belive MDawg is a scammer, and shouldn't be treated like one. Do I believe he was truthful about his casino exploits? Obviously not. He does seem to bet large -- at least at times -- and I believe he does get some impressive comps. However, I believe him to be more of a casino whale than anything else, and not an AP or winning long term gambler. For whatever reason he wants to live a fantasy on these boards that he is a big winner. While I understand legitimate APs being irritated with these claims, it's important to understand that MDawg does not seem to be setting up any kind of monetary scam, nor does he have any history of ripping anyone off. He simply likes to tell tall tales.

    If he were an actual scammer, I would be onboard for revealing his info, but I have seen no evidence of that.
    Do you know the information KJ posted was factual? I mean to say, what if that information wasn't even true for MDawg? There has been information posted on this forum that leads to a possible name, some background, and place of work. I personally don't think MDawg is that person everyone suspects, but who knows.

  5. #25
    I don't know if it's correct. I just know that, correct or not, any attempt to dox someone isn't allowed here, and that includes school information (unless the person was public about it).
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  6. #26
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    It has been brought to my attention that "doxxing" is occurring in this thead. Here are my findings.

    First names by themselves are not doxxing, in my opinion. Unless that person has revealed other identifying info, a first name alone usually cannot be used to find someone.

    However, the name of a law school was posted. I agree that enters into doxxing territory, especially given that MDawg never mentioned which law school he went to, and because it was combined with a first name.

    Therefore, I have removed the reference to the law school (changing it to <redacted>), and I will ask that going forward, nobody post that law school name here (or any hints as to what it is).

    I will also state for the record that I don't belive MDawg is a scammer, and shouldn't be treated like one. Do I believe he was truthful about his casino exploits? Obviously not. He does seem to bet large -- at least at times -- and I believe he does get some impressive comps. However, I believe him to be more of a casino whale than anything else, and not an AP or winning long term gambler. For whatever reason he wants to live a fantasy on these boards that he is a big winner. While I understand legitimate APs being irritated with these claims, it's important to understand that MDawg does not seem to be setting up any kind of monetary scam, nor does he have any history of ripping anyone off. He simply likes to tell tall tales.

    If he were an actual scammer, I would be onboard for revealing his info, but I have seen no evidence of that.

    I think Todd's rationale here is a crock. For someone who runs PokerFraudAlert, it's flat out irresponsible.

    A "scam" is defined as "a dishonest scheme; a fraud." The first and most common definition of the word "scam" does NOT say it has to be about money.

    Is MDawg running a "dishonest scheme?" Yes he is.

    Is MDawg a fraud? Yes he is.

    So why is Todd propping up a dishonest scheme and a fraud? He's allowing it and protecting it. I thought Todd's gig was called PokerFraudAlert. What, no MDawgFraudAlert? Why not?

    Being a "scammer" does not necessarily have anything to do with directly ripping off material resources. If Todd took a few social science classes, he'd realize that non-material resources play just as large a role or larger in the benefits of "scamming." Reputation is a non-material resource. Expertise is a non-material resource. Status acquired via reputation and alleged expertise is a non-material resource. Ability to network in business due to results of reputation, alleged expertise, and status is a non-material resource.

    So Todd, who decides it's his job to define "scamming" and "scammer" a particular way, says that playing the role of winning gambler is harmless. Todd is therefore facilitating MDawg by taking this stance, which requires Todd to invent his own particular definitions of words.

    So, Todd, did MDawg complain to you? Is that what facilitated your intervention? If so, why didn't you mention that? If you didn't mention that MDawg complained, and he did, isn't that purposeful dishonesty on your part?

    I see what you're doing here, Todd. By publicly stating that MDawg is doing no harm, you are insulating yourself from acknowledging that he may be doing harm and that you're partially responsible. By stating that he's no scammer, and narrowly defining "scamming" as strictly money, you will be shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover that anything occurs down the road. And you will claim no responsibility.

    Well, I'm stating here that Todd DOES bear responsibility, and if anyone gets fooled by MDawg in any material or non-material way, I will be happy to go to court on their behalf.

    I can be reached at IntegritySports@aol.com.

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    It has been brought to my attention that "doxxing" is occurring in this thead. Here are my findings.

    First names by themselves are not doxxing, in my opinion. Unless that person has revealed other identifying info, a first name alone usually cannot be used to find someone.

    However, the name of a law school was posted. I agree that enters into doxxing territory, especially given that MDawg never mentioned which law school he went to, and because it was combined with a first name.

    Therefore, I have removed the reference to the law school (changing it to <redacted>), and I will ask that going forward, nobody post that law school name here (or any hints as to what it is).

    I will also state for the record that I don't belive MDawg is a scammer, and shouldn't be treated like one. Do I believe he was truthful about his casino exploits? Obviously not. He does seem to bet large -- at least at times -- and I believe he does get some impressive comps. However, I believe him to be more of a casino whale than anything else, and not an AP or winning long term gambler. For whatever reason he wants to live a fantasy on these boards that he is a big winner. While I understand legitimate APs being irritated with these claims, it's important to understand that MDawg does not seem to be setting up any kind of monetary scam, nor does he have any history of ripping anyone off. He simply likes to tell tall tales.

    If he were an actual scammer, I would be onboard for revealing his info, but I have seen no evidence of that.

    I think Todd's rationale here is a crock. For someone who runs PokerFraudAlert, it's flat out irresponsible.

    A "scam" is defined as "a dishonest scheme; a fraud." The first and most common definition of the word "scam" does NOT say it has to be about money.

    Is MDawg running a "dishonest scheme?" Yes he is.

    Is MDawg a fraud? Yes he is.

    So why is Todd propping up a dishonest scheme and a fraud? He's allowing it and protecting it. I thought Todd's gig was called PokerFraudAlert. What, no MDawgFraudAlert? Why not?

    Being a "scammer" does not necessarily have anything to do with directly ripping off material resources. If Todd took a few social science classes, he'd realize that non-material resources play just as large a role or larger in the benefits of "scamming." Reputation is a non-material resource. Expertise is a non-material resource. Status acquired via reputation and alleged expertise is a non-material resource. Ability to network in business due to results of reputation, alleged expertise, and status is a non-material resource.

    So Todd, who decides it's his job to define "scamming" and "scammer" a particular way, says that playing the role of winning gambler is harmless. Todd is therefore facilitating MDawg by taking this stance, which requires Todd to invent his own particular definitions of words.

    So, Todd, did MDawg complain to you? Is that what facilitated your intervention? If so, why didn't you mention that? If you didn't mention that MDawg complained, and he did, isn't that purposeful dishonesty on your part?

    I see what you're doing here, Todd. By publicly stating that MDawg is doing no harm, you are insulating yourself from acknowledging that he may be doing harm and that you're partially responsible. By stating that he's no scammer, and narrowly defining "scamming" as strictly money, you will be shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover that anything occurs down the road. And you will claim no responsibility.

    Well, I'm stating here that Todd DOES bear responsibility, and if anyone gets fooled by MDawg in any material or non-material way, I will be happy to go to court on their behalf.

    I can be reached at IntegritySports@aol.com.
    LMAO! Everyone knows MDawg is an idiot. But anyone wishing to file a frivolous lawsuit should contact redietz, who help pay for the lawyers. In a case like that they won't work on contingency.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #28
    I'm just going to say that I agree with Dan Druff's position vis-a-vis scamming and leave it at that. I see no evidence that MDawg is running any kind of scam and agree that, for him to be doing so, there would have to be some possibility of direct financial benefit.

  9. #29
    I think Dan’s posting “ I will also state for the record that I don't belive MDawg is a scammer, and shouldn't be treated like one” is interesting.

    I could be reading too much into the word “record” but it would be nice if Dan answered the following 2 questions.

    Was any legal threat of liability made against him or the site?

    Was the person who reported the “doxxing” the person posting as the fictional “MDawg”?

    Dan has been sued before and doesn’t appear to be afraid of it so I believe he actually believes what he wrote about his opinion of MDawg. And he stood up to MD’s use of a VPN here when MD cried about it when he posted here.

    I still believe the MDawg character has a bigger plan in play long term but I agree he hasn’t tried to “scam” anyone in the financial aspect of a usual scammer. Mickey says “everyone” knows he is an idiot but I wonder do they? As RED suggests, do we know if he actually has people who read his tales and then click on the links to try and “win” at the online sites? We know someone claiming to be Marcus says he is gambling uses MD’s methods and “owes it all to him”. And we all read the stories of how normal people fall for unbelievable scams everyday.

    Either way, MDawg has us talking about him and that’s the one thing we all agree on that he strives on.

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I'm just going to say that I agree with Dan Druff's position vis-a-vis scamming and leave it at that. I see no evidence that MDawg is running any kind of scam and agree that, for him to be doing so, there would have to be some possibility of direct financial benefit.
    It’s a rhetorical question and I don’t believe you have obligation to answer.

    But since we know the Wizard has received direct financial benefit does that involve him in a scam? At a minimum he has received $500 and signed a non disclosure agreement with someone behind the MDawg persona. In what world does having someone sign one make any sense other than to protect one’s identity.

  11. #31
    I think he is running a scam. His post in his tag line soliciting wagers to prove he is winning . That’s all the info you need, soliciting money for an bet that can be manipulated

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Either way, MDawg has us talking about him and that’s the one thing we all agree on that he strives on.
    I think that you said it all in this sentence. If there's a problem with MDawg at all, then the biggest problem with him is how much time everyone else spends talking about him.

    Prior to the Wizard meetup, there was the assertion that literally everything MDawg ever said might be bullshit---and then the meetup proved that wrong. Hypothetically, if what KewlJ said in the OP of this thread is actually referring to MDawg, then the fact that he comes from money lends even more credence to his statements about being a Vegas high-roller.

    So, everything else having been demonstrated to be most likely correct, the only thing left to argue about his the accounts of his gambling activities. In my opinion, as far as WoV is concerned, these accounts are basically irrelevant as they are restricted to one thread in Betting Systems that isn't even on the, "Recent Threads," list.

    In essence---and in keeping with a position that I expressed even before the meetup---the actions of a great many people who are not MDawg are the main contributing factor in how big the MDawg thing has become.

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by Advantageplay View Post
    I think he is running a scam. His post in his tag line soliciting wagers to prove he is winning . That’s all the info you need, soliciting money for an bet that can be manipulated
    What difference does that make?

    1.) Nobody is required to enter into a bet with him.

    2.) Bets have historically been allowed to be made between parties on the site.

    AND:

    3.) The only bet (if it technically counts as a bet) that he has ever been involved with through the site---he won. More than that, the bet was sufficient to prove that what he has reported has been more than 0% valid. Prior to that, he'd never proven anything.

  14. #34
    I agree with Dan Druff's conclusion that Mdawg's claims of winning are complete bullshit and that he is a "whale" or high end player, who loses and is comped accordingly at the higher end. That makes the whole story and claims expanding years makes sense, via the math and the way Las Vegas work. I still say, it is a shame that isn't the story he told, because that would have made a interesting adventure for most of us that aren't familiar with that level of play and comps.

    I disagree with Dan Druff that the insertion of all the winning does not take it to a level I would define as scam. All the winning described for several years during the threads of these actual claims, but even further than that has he has said he hasn't had a losing year in over 20 years is intentionally misleading to other players and MEANT to be intentionally misleading to other players. THAT is what a scam is. It is not about money per say, it is about lying and misleading. Oxford defines scam as a dishonest scheme or fraud. Nothing about money.

    But to the money end of it, I am sure there are people, members of the multiple forums he has posted this "scam" on that try to do what he does, and have lost money, probably more than they can afford. And that makes it a scam!

    Forgetting the 'double up bug' portion of Rob Singers legacy, was 20 years of his initial claims of winning millions playing video poker using progression wagering, stop limits and "special plays" a scam? I think most of us would describe it as that. I am not sure Dan Druff didn't describe it as that (will go back and look when I have more time). But I know Druff called it out as bullshit.

    My view, someone intentionally lying and misleading members and players that can cause harm to those players, is a "scammer", should be called out. I have no regret, nor apologize for doing so.

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I am sure there are people, members of the multiple forums he has posted this "scam" on that try to do what he does, and have lost money, probably more than they can afford. And that makes it a scam!
    The statement above is complete nonsense.

    You've made something up in your own mind,
    and then asserted that your fantasy is evidence of a scam.

    That's worse than what anything you've accused MDawg of doing.

  16. #36
    Both of Mdawg's "supporters" at WoV have stated that they have spoke with him privately, by phone or PM regarding learning how he plays and both have started threads or accounts of their own baccarat play "adventures" if I am not mistaken. On another forum, Moses, posting as Tater, flat out asked Mdawg to teach him what he does.

    What further proof do you need that his bullshit claims are effecting others?

    "There is none so blind as he who will not see".

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Both of Mdawg's "supporters" at WoV have stated that they have spoke with him privately, by phone or PM regarding learning how he plays and both have started threads or accounts of their own baccarat play "adventures
    For months you've insisted that both are MDawg sock puppets.

    Now you insist that they are innocent readers who are gambling above their means.

    What further proof does anyone need that you never post honestly?

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I agree with Dan Druff's conclusion that Mdawg's claims of winning are complete bullshit and that he is a "whale" or high end player, who loses and is comped accordingly at the higher end. That makes the whole story and claims expanding years makes sense, via the math and the way Las Vegas work. I still say, it is a shame that isn't the story he told, because that would have made a interesting adventure for most of us that aren't familiar with that level of play and comps.

    I disagree with Dan Druff that the insertion of all the winning does not take it to a level I would define as scam. All the winning described for several years during the threads of these actual claims, but even further than that has he has said he hasn't had a losing year in over 20 years is intentionally misleading to other players and MEANT to be intentionally misleading to other players. THAT is what a scam is. It is not about money per say, it is about lying and misleading. Oxford defines scam as a dishonest scheme or fraud. Nothing about money.

    But to the money end of it, I am sure there are people, members of the multiple forums he has posted this "scam" on that try to do what he does, and have lost money, probably more than they can afford. And that makes it a scam!

    Forgetting the 'double up bug' portion of Rob Singers legacy, was 20 years of his initial claims of winning millions playing video poker using progression wagering, stop limits and "special plays" a scam? I think most of us would describe it as that. I am not sure Dan Druff didn't describe it as that (will go back and look when I have more time). But I know Druff called it out as bullshit.

    My view, someone intentionally lying and misleading members and players that can cause harm to those players, is a "scammer", should be called out. I have no regret, nor apologize for doing so.
    Going with that definition, let's get into more Oxford definitions:

    Scheme--a plan or system for doing or organizing something

    Okay, so there's nothing inherently scammy about that. One of the example sentences:

    https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionari...glish/scheme_1

    Even refers to a, 'Scheme,' for recycling newspapers...which certainly isn't how I would use the word, but there you go.

    The second definition does have to do with money:

    Scheme--a plan for getting money or some other advantage for yourself, especially one that involves cheating other people

    ---Which is the one that I would assume they mean when they refer to a scam as a scheme. With that, if not money, then what advantage would MDawg be getting for himself by way of his posting and in what way is he cheating anyone?

    Which leads us to fraud:

    Fraud--the crime of cheating somebody in order to get money or goods illegally

    Which, again, is Oxford's definition of the word. Their first definition, in fact. In what way has anything MDawg has done led to him illegally obtaining money or goods?

    In order to have fraud, or even attempted fraud, there would have to be someone who stands to be, or stood to have been, defrauded of something. Absent some sort of long game that nobody would know about, that obviously doesn't seem to be the case here.

    Honestly, it's really just one of those words that I don't like to see casually tossed around because, if it doesn't have a clear enough meaning, it should be given one.

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Both of Mdawg's "supporters" at WoV have stated that they have spoke with him privately, by phone or PM regarding learning how he plays and both have started threads or accounts of their own baccarat play "adventures" if I am not mistaken. On another forum, Moses, posting as Tater, flat out asked Mdawg to teach him what he does.

    What further proof do you need that his bullshit claims are effecting others?

    "There is none so blind as he who will not see".
    That doesn't rise to the level of a scam if MDawg does not stand to gain from any of that.

    Even if someone who believes they can replicate MDawg's supposed methods goes to the casino and loses, in what way does MDawg benefit from that?

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Both of Mdawg's "supporters" at WoV have stated that they have spoke with him privately, by phone or PM regarding learning how he plays and both have started threads or accounts of their own baccarat play "adventures
    For months you've insisted that both are MDawg sock puppets.

    Now you insist that they are innocent readers who are gambling above their means.

    What further proof does anyone need that you never post honestly?
    I think (<- see that word "think", that means my opinion) that both are sockpuppets. I am almost positive Mucus Clark is. I still believe Wellbush is, although one of the mods at WoV insists not. But those same mods at WoV have shown and even stated that they don't know how to get around VPN's.

    Are you confirming that they are sockpuppets? But you are missing the bigger picture as always coach and that is that this whole thing is a scam to mislead, how ever you shake it out.

    If they are not sockpuppets, then they have been scammed.
    If they are sockpuppets, then they are part of the scam.

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