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Thread: MGM execs intend to release player records to internet blogger?

  1. #1
    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    So you announce to the world that you have an MGM host that will (illegally AFAIK) leak you the w/l of another player
    Claims like these could be damaging to the MGM brand...

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I currently know some personal information on this person. sometime early next year, projected February, the Cosmopolitan sale of casino operations to MGM will close. I have friends in high places at MGM who will then have access to his information and they tell me likely prior to the actual close of the sale.

    What that means is I will then know everything about his bullshit claims.

    Whatever it shows, I promise that I am going to post the information for ALL to SEE and end these bullshit claims and adventure that Shackleford should have ended a year ago. I will have no problem revealing everything, right down to his Tax ID number (substitute for SS #) and DoB.
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    two weeks ago after Cosmo was sold, I announced that I would soon be able to get a hold of this Mdawg persons records
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    it became evident that I would soon have Mdawgs actually betting records
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    The further fact is that once the sale of Cosmo was announced, that opportunity was available or would become available to me. Y'all can surmise whether I was bluffing or not, but I don't bluff.
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    When Cosmo was sold, I realized I would have the info
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    When I will have access to the information is not my call. I have been told MGM may have access to some of that data before the official close.
    Is MGM not trustworthy? Don't they keep players' W/L records private?

    Should subpoenas be expected if MGM legal eagles ever catch wind of the shocking claims made above?

    Maybe Alan should follow up and ask them some questions about all of this.
    Last edited by coach belly; 10-26-2021 at 09:00 PM.

  2. #2
    Coach, you realize that it is common practice for casino hosts to share screen shots as a courtesy with other hosts when they call for player ratings: it’s not confidential. There isn’t a hipa law here I agree not the best scenario but it goes on hundreds of times a day

  3. #3
    Originally Posted by Advantageplay View Post
    it’s not confidential.
    If you say so, but the first guy quoted seems to think it's illegal.

    I think he's libeling MGM with those claims.

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by coach belly
    I think he's libeling MGM with those claims.
    Douchedawg portrays himself as Perry Mason with a gamblin' jones: let him advise MGM whether it's libel or not (psssst ... it ain't).

    Now if KJ were to follow through, acquire confidential info from MGM and post it online that would most certainly be actionable, both by douchedawg and perhaps the casino.

    Tread lightly, KJ: sometimes a set of big balls just weighs you down and makes you sink in quicksand.
    What, Me Worry?

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    let him advise MGM whether it's libel or not (psssst ... it ain't).
    It's "trade libel"...false, negative and malicious statements about a business.

    The complaint would assert that the statements damage the company's reputation and cause financial harm.

  6. #6
    Go for it smelly belly. Contact MGM and tell them some anonymous person on the internet says he has a friend that works at MGM that has or will share information on another gambler.

    I can see the questions now:

    Who is this MGM employee? I don't know.

    Who is the guy that said this? I don't know.

    What information was shared? I don't know.


    Belly, don't you ever get tired of this nonsense?
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  7. #7
    You're not as "anonymous" as you think, kew.

    You're always too dumb to realize what's going on, as proven when you tried to fake your death. I and others attribute it to more than one set of crossed wires in that head of yours.

    In this case, where you concoct a claim to know someone at MGM high up enuf and stupid enuf that'll simply hand over another player's personal account information to a party who has no right to it, for the sole intent of harming said individual....wise up. The purported info is not going to another casino for business purposes. But then again, you have no life other than being a foolish little casino rat who believes he's the premier LV "Man about Town" so how would you understand world common sense anyway?

    And I can't wait for how MGM plans on explaining purposely leaked info to the rest of it's players so that it will not lose any customers.

    Of course, you really don't believe you can obtain or even know anyone at MGM capable of doing this, do you. And as far as you thinking you and that special "big shot" MGM employee are all anonymous and/or will remain that way if this goes down, wise up again. If MDawg has a fraction of the money everyone seems to believe he has, watch out. MGM certainly does.

    What's really happening here is MDawg continues to dog your little mind 24 hours a day, and you keep trying to scratch the itch you just can't locate. You concoct so much stuff on these forums that you lose track of all your lies. Collateral damage from those goofy wires, I guess.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly
    I think he's libeling MGM with those claims.
    Douchedawg portrays himself as Perry Mason with a gamblin' jones: let him advise MGM whether it's libel or not (psssst ... it ain't).

    Now if KJ were to follow through, acquire confidential info from MGM and post it online that would most certainly be actionable, both by douchedawg and perhaps the casino.

    Tread lightly, KJ: sometimes a set of big balls just weighs you down and makes you sink in quicksand.

    And this is why, despite unJon's protestations, I think kewlJ did the right thing with what my entrepreneurial friends would call "information brokerage." He let MDawg know he had the gun, but he gave MDawg time to either jump off the cliff himself or wait until he was shot. MDawg jumped of his own volition.

    As to coach, here's what I love about him:

    1) Shackleford talks MDawg into "confessing" due to kewlJ's leverage. Shackleford lives in Las Vegas and has worked for casinos. He knows how things work.
    2) MDawg spends half the year, evidently, hanging in comped LV suites. He self-confesses rather than have the music blaring in his ears. He presumably knows how things work.
    3) KewlJ lives and works in Las Vegas, and has for more than a decade. He presumably knows how things work.
    4) Coach spends 7-10 days in Las Vegas each year and has access to google. He has unilaterally decided he knows how things work.

    Now that's Dunning-Kruger, as unJon says, front and center.

  9. #9
    A writer for The Washington Monthly found sources to find out gambling won/loss statements of a big shot Washington D.C. political insider (Bill Bennett) in this 2003 article.
    https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazi...kie-of-virtue/
    JSTAT on casinos, poker, and blackjack/baccarat card counting without charge. Saying what needs to said at https://twitter.com/Casino_Examiner

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    A writer for The Washington Monthly found sources to find out gambling won/loss statements of a big shot Washington D.C. political insider (Bill Bennett) in this 2003 article.
    https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazi...kie-of-virtue/
    This was fairly common knowledge about Bennett in the mid-nineties, years before the article. $500 slots at Caesars downing Cristal vodka. A bartender at the Stardust told me about it and sure enough stories came out it three/four years later.
    Keep your friends close, keep your drinks closer...

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Go for it. Contact MGM and tell them some anonymous person on the internet says he has a friend that works at MGM that has or will share information on another gambler.
    I'll let our favorite Emmy Award-winning reporter handle that.

    He won't need to answer questions, he'll just forward the posts that I quoted.

    I doubt that you'll remain anonymous for long if MGM decides to defend its reputation from your public defamation.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    1) Shackleford talks MDawg into "confessing" due to kewlJ's leverage.
    That is your fantasy, with zero basis in reality or truth.

    Whatever happened to the integrity that you bestowed upon yourself way back when?

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    MGM decides to defend its reputation from your public defamation.
    I am sure you don't even believe your nonsense. You are trying to get a rise out of me. I guess you think you are scaring me or something. Not so. I, like everyone else is just laughing at you. We all KNOW how the real world works. And that is what this whole thing was about.

    Every story that break has a source that likely leaked something they probably weren't supposed to, and when I say "supposed to", it could be anything from, against company policy, to criminal, to just not the right thing to do. In all sorts of situations friends with access to info, tip off or help out friends. How many people know someone at City hall that can "help them" out with a traffic ticket? What about a person that works for a company that knows the company just got a big contract before it becomes public knowledge and is about to hire, so he tips off his unemployed friend to get his resume in. This is the way life works.

    I don't know what the legality of leaking a gamblers gambling record is. Are there some "hippa" like laws that criminalize this? I have friends in the casino industry that have shared my own database information and entries with me. I don't know, but am guessing the company they work for wouldn't look favorably on that. Is it a crime? I doubt it.

    So one of the 74,500 MGM employees or an even larger number of people that are consultants, or contracted workers, leaks some information about a gambler and you think MGM is going to go bonkers?

    You are just barking at the vacuum cleaner.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So one of the 74,500 MGM employees or an even larger number of people that are consultants, or contracted workers, leaks some information about a gambler and you think MGM is going to go bonkers?
    Future unethical or illegal or acts by MGM employees are subject to whatever remedies the company chooses to pursue.

    Your defamatory statements have already been made, your actions are on record.

    It would be prudent for MGM to investigate claims that their executives intend to release individual player records for publication on popular internet gambling sites.

    Mitigating disinformation wouldn't be considered "going bonkers", nor would measures to sanction bloggers and their confederates who propagate damaging rumors .

  15. #15
    Coach belly, you are just nuts! You really are. You are totally detached from reality or at least pretend to be so you can argue irrelevant things.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    A writer for The Washington Monthly found sources to find out gambling won/loss statements of a big shot Washington D.C. political insider (Bill Bennett) in this 2003 article.
    https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazi...kie-of-virtue/
    One has to wonder: if the details of Bennett's slot play from various casinos was leaked to a reporter why were there were no consequences to the employees who leaked the info?

    Perhaps Mr. Bennett chose, for political reasons, not to pursue the matter, but even so you'd think the casinos named would have investigated, discovered and punished those who leaked.
    What, Me Worry?

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Coach belly, you are just nuts! You really are. You are totally detached from reality or at least pretend to be so you can argue irrelevant things.
    You initiated the discussion about MGM execs releasing individual player records to you.

    You and the ditz insisted that to be relevant...aren't you both detached from reality?

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    if the details of Bennett's slot play from various casinos was leaked to a reporter why were there were no consequences to the employees who leaked the info?.
    Your question assumes facts not in evidence.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    if the details of Bennett's slot play from various casinos was leaked to a reporter why were there were no consequences to the employees who leaked the info?.
    Your question assumes facts not in evidence.
    What facts are not in evidence?

    The article says the reporter talked to sources and viewed documents.
    What, Me Worry?

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    if the details of Bennett's slot play from various casinos was leaked to a reporter why were there were no consequences to the employees who leaked the info?.
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Your question assumes facts not in evidence.
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    What facts are not in evidence?
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    there were no consequences to the employees who leaked the info

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