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  1. #121
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I like how CNN has this doctor (Paul Offit) on and the doctor says most people do not need the 4th booster and CNN decides to delete the interview.
    Jimmy Dore talks about it too.
    Just face it.
    Covid Vaccines and Boosters are a complete and utter scam.
    No better than Bayer with worse side effects.
    And yet young people who want to work or who are already in the work force must get the vaccine or they will not be hired; or they will get fired if they already have a job.

  2. #122
    Phil Harper is putting together a film regarding the pharmaceutical industry. It's called The Research Cartel. He's a famous BBC filmmaker He is having difficulty finding funding from his usual mainstream sources, but he's going to do the film anyway.

    https://philharper.substack.com/archive

    I suggest following his work. He's put a lot of information in one place.

  3. #123
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  4. #124
    lol Fauci lying again and again and again...


  5. #125
    More lying and lying and lying lol...


  6. #126
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    lol Fauci lying again and again and again...

    Jimmy Dore the whore. He's finally found a way to be of note outside a B-level TYT guy.

    Fauci has said a lot of things, yes some of them contradicted himself but calling him a pathological liar is just so lol.

    I mean, if we were to look at how many lies Trump said and how many Fauci said... Who do you think'll win, boys?!!?!
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  7. #127
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    lol Fauci lying again and again and again...

    Jimmy Dore the whore. He's finally found a way to be of note outside a B-level TYT guy.

    Fauci has said a lot of things, yes some of them contradicted himself but calling him a pathological liar is just so lol.

    I mean, if we were to look at how many lies Trump said and how many Fauci said... Who do you think'll win, boys?!!?!

    The main vaccine issue, which is finally becoming peer-reviewed evident, is that the vaccine appears, for certain age/gender groups, to have a negative effect on mortality and hospitalizations. That's becoming clear. And it may overall have a negative mortality effect, especially if you filter out the original strain of the virus from the data.

    Basically, the vaccine benefits were for older people dealing with the first strains. For young males dealing with the latest strains, the vaccines have been a bad idea.

  8. #128
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    The main vaccine issue, which is finally becoming peer-reviewed evident, is that the vaccine appears, for certain age/gender groups, to have a negative effect on mortality and hospitalizations. That's becoming clear. And it may overall have a negative mortality effect, especially if you filter out the original strain of the virus from the data.

    Basically, the vaccine benefits were for older people dealing with the first strains. For young males dealing with the latest strains, the vaccines have been a bad idea.
    This point seems perfectly reasonable given what I know but there is so much more noise coming out. I believe I'm supposed to say something about moving goalposts?

    Jimmy Dawhore pauses the video to make points ripping apart Fauci as some evil-overlord before getting anywhere. Straight bold-faced pandering. The guy is from Chicago then LA. Nuf' said.

    The guy you posted seems to be stuck on some 20 million died figure that was given about deaths and from there going into some conspiracy because of this. Kinda a waste of time. It isn't like the vaccines were shown to be ineffective. They were just less effective than hoped. Some people say that means they're not even a vaccine and definition of vaccine is changed for COVID. Then you ask if flu shots aren't vaccinations then and it is ALWAYS crickets.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  9. #129
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    The main vaccine issue, which is finally becoming peer-reviewed evident, is that the vaccine appears, for certain age/gender groups, to have a negative effect on mortality and hospitalizations. That's becoming clear. And it may overall have a negative mortality effect, especially if you filter out the original strain of the virus from the data.

    Basically, the vaccine benefits were for older people dealing with the first strains. For young males dealing with the latest strains, the vaccines have been a bad idea.
    This point seems perfectly reasonable given what I know but there is so much more noise coming out. I believe I'm supposed to say something about moving goalposts?

    Jimmy Dawhore pauses the video to make points ripping apart Fauci as some evil-overlord before getting anywhere. Straight bold-faced pandering. The guy is from Chicago then LA. Nuf' said.

    The guy you posted seems to be stuck on some 20 million died figure that was given about deaths and from there going into some conspiracy because of this. Kinda a waste of time. It isn't like the vaccines were shown to be ineffective. They were just less effective than hoped. Some people say that means they're not even a vaccine and definition of vaccine is changed for COVID. Then you ask if flu shots aren't vaccinations then and it is ALWAYS crickets.

    The point is that there were safety signals from the beginning for certain cohorts, and those safety signals were overridden by both the U.S. institutions and the pharmaceutical industry. But eventually the data would see the light of day, and here it comes.

    The problem, in a nutshell, is that the majority of funding for the regulatory institutions in the U.S. is provided by the companies allegedly being regulated. There is an ongoing increasingly positive correlation between percent of funding coming from companies and the percent of drugs being approved. The other major issue is that the bulk of advertising for the major news networks (Fox, CNN, MSNBC) comes from pharmaceutical companies. I was stunned to see the percentages.

    If you were laying out structures that invite and foster corruption, you couldn't do better than what currently exists in the U.S.

  10. #130
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    The main vaccine issue, which is finally becoming peer-reviewed evident, is that the vaccine appears, for certain age/gender groups, to have a negative effect on mortality and hospitalizations. That's becoming clear. And it may overall have a negative mortality effect, especially if you filter out the original strain of the virus from the data.

    Basically, the vaccine benefits were for older people dealing with the first strains. For young males dealing with the latest strains, the vaccines have been a bad idea.
    This point seems perfectly reasonable given what I know but there is so much more noise coming out. I believe I'm supposed to say something about moving goalposts?

    Jimmy Dawhore pauses the video to make points ripping apart Fauci as some evil-overlord before getting anywhere. Straight bold-faced pandering. The guy is from Chicago then LA. Nuf' said.

    The guy you posted seems to be stuck on some 20 million died figure that was given about deaths and from there going into some conspiracy because of this. Kinda a waste of time. It isn't like the vaccines were shown to be ineffective. They were just less effective than hoped. Some people say that means they're not even a vaccine and definition of vaccine is changed for COVID. Then you ask if flu shots aren't vaccinations then and it is ALWAYS crickets.

    The point is that there were safety signals from the beginning for certain cohorts, and those safety signals were overridden by both the U.S. institutions and the pharmaceutical industry. But eventually the data would see the light of day, and here it comes.

    The problem, in a nutshell, is that the majority of funding for the regulatory institutions in the U.S. is provided by the companies allegedly being regulated. There is an ongoing increasingly positive correlation between percent of funding coming from companies and the percent of drugs being approved. The other major issue is that the bulk of advertising for the major news networks (Fox, CNN, MSNBC) comes from pharmaceutical companies. I was stunned to see the percentages.

    If you were laying out structures that invite and foster corruption, you couldn't do better than what currently exists in the U.S.
    Yea, I listened to this podcast the other day that was interesting. Maybe a freakonmics podcast? Anyway, this woman had studied corruption and she wasn't so sure the US wasn't as corrupt as the kleptocracies of Russia or the CCP. It is just that our form of corruption involves the interaction of politics and corporations. This is why I was and am a Bernie Bro. I don't think he'll get that far with his socialist stuff but goddam he is the only candidate on the national level confronting this form of corruption. Then the Democratic party rigs the system against him to install a puppet like Biden who seems to have dementia much like the previous president.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  11. #131
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    lol Fauci lying again and again and again...

    Jimmy Dore the whore. He's finally found a way to be of note outside a B-level TYT guy.

    Fauci has said a lot of things, yes some of them contradicted himself but calling him a pathological liar is just so lol.

    I mean, if we were to look at how many lies Trump said and how many Fauci said... Who do you think'll win, boys?!!?!
    When it comes to whose the biggest liar between Trump and Fauci it is obviously....Hillary, Obama and Biden. They have told some big ass whoppers to the American people.

    Hey, AIQ, if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan. The Affordable Care act will drive health care costs down.

    Bwaaaahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Fucking rube.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #132
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    lol Fauci lying again and again and again...

    Jimmy Dore the whore. He's finally found a way to be of note outside a B-level TYT guy.

    Fauci has said a lot of things, yes some of them contradicted himself but calling him a pathological liar is just so lol.

    I mean, if we were to look at how many lies Trump said and how many Fauci said... Who do you think'll win, boys?!!?!
    When it comes to whose the biggest liar between Trump and Fauci it is obviously....Hillary, Obama and Biden. They have told some big ass whoppers to the American people.

    Hey, AIQ, if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan. The Affordable Care act will drive health care costs down.

    Bwaaaahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Fucking rube.
    I don't get why you think I'm some big Democrat. Not everyone is some weird binary thinking person and as a consequence we actually form our own opinions. I liked Obama, despised Hillary and her followers, and find Trump totally worthless as a human.

    Anyway, here is a suggestion. You like to clock things. (which I find admirable) SO find a stopwatch, google "trump's list of lies" on washington post and start reading them and start that stopwatch. When you're done, hit the stop button and report back with the time, please.

    That dude even has articles on subsets of lies about Coronavirus and this wasn't because of corporation influencing/corruption.

    "Fucking rube" is right.

    Most of the stuff you've listed btw is likely due to pushback from either Republicans or corporations. Not sure why it is still a talking point of the right. Nicely fed I'm sure.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  13. #133
    New study out. Not a youtube video so I apologize upfront. I pasted the summary for those not scared of reading things that conflict with their views but don't have the time to read a paper.

    From Yale School of Health. That seems as credible as anything.

    https://www.nber.org/system/files/wo...512/w30512.pdf


    Political party affiliation was associated with excess death rates at the individual level during
    the initial years of the COVID-19 pandemic. Registered Republicans in Florida and Ohio
    had higher excess death rates than registered Democrats, driven by a large mortality gap in
    the period after all adults were eligible for vaccines. These results adjust for county-by-age
    differences in excess deaths during the pandemic, suggesting that there were within-age-by county differences in excess death associated with political party affiliation.


    ...

    Overall, our results suggest that political party affiliation only became a substantial risk
    factor in Ohio and Florida after vaccines were widely available. Lack of individual-level vaccination status limits our ability to draw broad conclusions, but the results suggest that the
    well-documented differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake between Republicans and Democrats [10, 7, 8, 13] have already had serious consequences for the severity and
    trajectory of the pandemic in the United States
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  14. #134
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    New study out. Not a youtube video so I apologize upfront. I pasted the summary for those not scared of reading things that conflict with their views but don't have the time to read a paper.

    From Yale School of Health. That seems as credible as anything.

    https://www.nber.org/system/files/wo...512/w30512.pdf


    Political party affiliation was associated with excess death rates at the individual level during
    the initial years of the COVID-19 pandemic. Registered Republicans in Florida and Ohio
    had higher excess death rates than registered Democrats, driven by a large mortality gap in
    the period after all adults were eligible for vaccines. These results adjust for county-by-age
    differences in excess deaths during the pandemic, suggesting that there were within-age-by county differences in excess death associated with political party affiliation.


    ...

    Overall, our results suggest that political party affiliation only became a substantial risk
    factor in Ohio and Florida after vaccines were widely available. Lack of individual-level vaccination status limits our ability to draw broad conclusions, but the results suggest that the
    well-documented differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake between Republicans and Democrats [10, 7, 8, 13] have already had serious consequences for the severity and
    trajectory of the pandemic in the United States
    You are Fucking Nuts.
    Why don't you engage, create and offer some gambling advice, on this site, from time to time, instead of constantly trolling left vs. right?

  15. #135
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    New study out. Not a youtube video so I apologize upfront. I pasted the summary for those not scared of reading things that conflict with their views but don't have the time to read a paper.

    From Yale School of Health. That seems as credible as anything.

    https://www.nber.org/system/files/wo...512/w30512.pdf


    Political party affiliation was associated with excess death rates at the individual level during
    the initial years of the COVID-19 pandemic. Registered Republicans in Florida and Ohio
    had higher excess death rates than registered Democrats, driven by a large mortality gap in
    the period after all adults were eligible for vaccines. These results adjust for county-by-age
    differences in excess deaths during the pandemic, suggesting that there were within-age-by county differences in excess death associated with political party affiliation.


    ...

    Overall, our results suggest that political party affiliation only became a substantial risk
    factor in Ohio and Florida after vaccines were widely available. Lack of individual-level vaccination status limits our ability to draw broad conclusions, but the results suggest that the
    well-documented differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake between Republicans and Democrats [10, 7, 8, 13] have already had serious consequences for the severity and
    trajectory of the pandemic in the United States
    You are Fucking Nuts.
    Why don't you engage, create and offer some gambling advice, on this site, from time to time, instead of constantly trolling left vs. right?
    In fairness I don't think you troll that much left or right, but you can look through this thread to see who actually has and hasn't.

    Who said it was left/right anyway? Thats just your imagination. It is really hard to tease out the vaccine effectiveness and this study seems as valid as any. No?

    Besides when do YOU offer gambling advice? Funny, I don't particularly recall it.

    I'm the one nuts? but you're the one who randomly throws out the cause of Coolio dying is vaccinations. Not what was likely a coke addiction for most of his adult life + being 59 and likely ate like shit.

    Come'on dude, be sincere or a bit introspective.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  16. #136
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    New study out. Not a youtube video so I apologize upfront. I pasted the summary for those not scared of reading things that conflict with their views but don't have the time to read a paper.

    From Yale School of Health. That seems as credible as anything.

    https://www.nber.org/system/files/wo...512/w30512.pdf


    Political party affiliation was associated with excess death rates at the individual level during
    the initial years of the COVID-19 pandemic. Registered Republicans in Florida and Ohio
    had higher excess death rates than registered Democrats, driven by a large mortality gap in
    the period after all adults were eligible for vaccines. These results adjust for county-by-age
    differences in excess deaths during the pandemic, suggesting that there were within-age-by county differences in excess death associated with political party affiliation.


    ...

    Overall, our results suggest that political party affiliation only became a substantial risk
    factor in Ohio and Florida after vaccines were widely available. Lack of individual-level vaccination status limits our ability to draw broad conclusions, but the results suggest that the
    well-documented differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake between Republicans and Democrats [10, 7, 8, 13] have already had serious consequences for the severity and
    trajectory of the pandemic in the United States

    I'm a little busy right now, shopping for Monday night numbers, but there are interesting aspects to what you've posted on this page.

    I have no doubt the study results are solid, but immediately very large red flags are raised because of the language used.

    For example, it is absolutely impossible to draw a cause/effect conclusion because they use the phrase "vaccination attitudes." It's also impossible to ignore the very likely possibility (I'd say probability) that the bulk of the difference in mortality is due to differential behaviors versus vaccination status. Behavior is what puts one at risk, and the risk differences between hard core Red and hard core Blue might be purely behavioral consequences as opposed to vaccine consequences. In fact, one might make the case that vaccines could still have overall bad effects on mortality while "vaccine attitudes" (i.e. behaviors) had such bad effects on mortality that the poor effects of being vaccinated would be overwhelmed and hidden. That is superficially an absurd and unlikely possibility, but it cannot at all be ruled out if we stick to strict scientific protocols.

    Here's a fact that probably went unmentioned in the study but may also have an effect. I'm just going to state it baldly. Democrats are better educated than Republicans. So unless you control for educational status, all kinds of confounding variables come into play.

    I know, nobody likes to acknowledge this, but it's the current reality. Registered Dems are better educated than registered Repubs. It's the current sociological reality. Kind of kills some stereotypes, eh? It was not always this way. Back in the 60's, for example, Repubs were better educated, but the educational rankings have flipped. I don't know exactly when they flipped but look it up for yourself. So perhaps the poorly educated had poorer mortality as much as any Red/Blue effects.

  17. #137
    You have gone too far Red.
    That's pretty absurd.
    31% of Americans identify as Democrats, 25% identify as Republican, and 41% as Independent.
    The 6% advantage would put the Dems ahead in education but this statistic that you believe in is ridiculous.
    And what about the other 3% that don't give a Fuck and the 35% that don't even Vote or Register to Vote because Voting is Bullshit?
    Of course, you can believe it if you want to.
    I'm just stating that its ludicrous.
    Besides, you can't even trust these numbers that they give us as they are phony at best.
    Many people who are registered didn't even know they registered or switched sides but didn't switch on paper.
    Half of my family is registered as Republican without their knowledge and that is just my family.
    I personally do not register or vote and never will.
    Last edited by monet; 10-03-2022 at 03:14 PM.

  18. #138
    It's a fact, monet. I'm not saying it's a likely effect that accounts for mortality differences. I'm saying unless you control for it, it's a confounding variable.

    Meanwhile, I'd love to know who or what funded the Yale study. That probably tells you more than any of this conjecture.

  19. #139
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    It's a fact, monet. I'm not saying it's a likely effect that accounts for mortality differences. I'm saying unless you control for it, it's a confounding variable.

    Meanwhile, I'd love to know who or what funded the Yale study. That probably tells you more than any of this conjecture.
    It is not a fact.
    At best it is a fact that is manipulated and cannot be trusted in either direction.
    This isn't College Football where you have every number and statistics of games that were ever played.
    Most minorities are Democrats and now you are going to tell me that they have better education compared to white republicans lol.
    Ridiculous at best.

  20. #140
    On second thought, with the Woke Left capturing universities, I imagine the number of college graduates would be 60/40 in favor of Democrats and rising.
    Well done on Indoctrinating and Transgendering the Youth of Tomorrow.
    I concede, to Redietz, in this statistic that flip-flopped in the last 20 years.
    Excuse my knee jerk reaction and refusal to accept the truth.

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