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  1. #301
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
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    Well if no one happens to know this guy who you sold the shuffle machine to, then it is another meaningless example.
    So I am supposed to verify who I am, my description, my address, my sexuality, what other AP's I know and do business with?

    Seriously, you people are out of your mind and now on some kind of weird witch hunt. I am an active advantage player and as such can and will do whatever I deem necessary to protect myself, my anonymity and career. Anyone who doesn't understand that, doesn't understand what advantage play is all about.

    There is a reason fewer and fewer AP's participate here or any forum that isn't private, hidden from public view and protected from non AP's. I am sensing it is that time for me.

    As justification for why I am entitled to do whatever necessary to protect myself and my career, you need look no further that two members, not here, but both previous members here, at a forum where they mirror and repeat everything said here word for word, colluded to post information on multiple forums that they believed was who I am and where I lived, posting this information all over the internet using sockpuppets and private messages.

    Now some of you may counter that I have doxxed one of those people, a guy making claims that can't be. I did! This person is not an AP, isn't hiding his play from casinos, but claims he is welcome even though winning 100's of thousands of dollars. So not the same this. The ONLY reason this guy isn't using his real name is so people on the forums can't look into his claims themselves. This person and his claims are more in line with someone like Christopher Mitchell, this Mikki guy, the Blackjack Army Guy Morganstern...those kind of people and should be named. It is you he is hiding from, not the casinos.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 01-11-2022 at 12:29 AM.

  2. #302
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
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    Well if no one happens to know this guy who you sold the shuffle machine to, then it is another meaningless example.
    So I am supposed to verify who I am, my description, my address, my sexuality, what other AP's I know and do business with?

    Seriously, you people are out of your mind and now on some kind of weird witch hunt. I am an active advantage player and as such can and will do whatever I deem necessary to protect myself, my anonymity and career. Anyone who doesn't understand that, doesn't understand what advantage play is all about.

    There is a reason fewer and fewer AP's participate here or any forum that isn't private, hidden from public view and protected from non AP's. I am sensing it is that time for me.

    As justification for why I am entitled to do whatever necessary to protect myself and my career, you need look no further that two members, not here, but both previous members here, at a forum where they mirror and repeat everything said here word for word, colluded to post information on multiple forums that they believed was who I am and where I lived, posting this information all over the internet using sockpuppets and private messages.

    Now some of you may counter that I have doxxed one of those people, a guy making claims that can't be. I did! This person is not an AP, isn't hiding his play from casinos, but claims he is welcome even though winning 100's of thousands of dollars. So not the same this. The ONLY reason this guy isn't using his real name is so people on the forums can't look into his claims themselves. This person and his claims are more in line with someone like Christopher Mitchell, this Mikki guy, the Blackjack Army Guy Morganstern...those kind of people and should be named. It is you he is hiding from, not the casinos.
    You can do whatever you want, but it has called into question everything you've said in the past. If you know mutual people - then tell jbjb or something and have jbjb acknowledge it.

    If jbjb says "Yea, I asked this person and they did buy this shufflemaster from you"..ok. but this NEVER has happened. All I want is like one verification from someone who is a known person. Mickey Crimm uhh did not like me to the extent he threatened to shoot me at some point. When I saw a person in the casino I suspected was him, I still introduced myself. It was a good time chatting with Mickey. Love old-timers. I showed him a few things given it was my home casino. You don't have any stories like that. "You know, a mutual person you probably know - ask him". What a bs answer when you could vaguely reference hte person directly *IF* they actually exist.

    I mean, I guess no one else cares but I have this ego thing where I'm curious if my hunch turned out to actually be true. I'm trying to have you prove me wrong... that'd be the simplest way, but it has never happened. All that happens is these other guys you've convinced of something say you're legitimate.. but it all seems to be because they've bought into your internet persona and not from any sort of firsthand knowledge.

    People come to believe all sorts of shit and once they've bought in, they become extra hard to convince otherwise.

    Anyway, you keep trying this misdirection stuff. I really never gave a shit about your sexual identity, name, address or any of that. I just want to know if you're a real person who is basically what you have claimed or if this is all a big effort to somehow catfish a community in an effort for you to receive attention.

    lol anyway, while we're at it mdawg dm'd me on here with a link to GF. Kinda funny..I don't think I'd ever visited that site but it seemed kinda dead when I clicked on one subforum.

    And I really do understand what advantage is about, and it is NOT about acting gay when you're not for years on an online forum. Likewise, if you are gay all at once trying to throw people off by same thing is equally ridiculous. All your misdirection ... all seems like cover for bullshit.
    Love my forum fam. You group of misfits are truly the finest people and I'm glad to be a part of this internet experience.

  3. #303
    I mean even your AP story is designed to be as bland as possible. That might be the reaoson for your longetivity but it might also be so your bullshit has believability.
    Love my forum fam. You group of misfits are truly the finest people and I'm glad to be a part of this internet experience.

  4. #304
    It sounds like you have decided I am on trial and need to prove something to you. I don't request that from those that I doubt and would never consent to that.

    Nor would I participate somewhere where that is required or it is required that someone vouch for you. There are a couple people that I think could vouch for me. (based on private discussion) but I would never ask them to. One I am not sure if he is still here or not. Been a while since I have seen him logged in. Doesn't matter. Like I said, I would never ask that of anyone and I think you an AP demanding that of another AP is out of line. But I really don't care anymore.

  5. #305
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    It sounds like you have decided I am on trial and need to prove something to you. I don't request that from those that I doubt and would never consent to that.

    Nor would I participate somewhere where that is required or it is required that someone vouch for you. There are a couple people that I think could vouch for me. (based on private discussion) but I would never ask them to. One I am not sure if he is still here or not. Been a while since I have seen him logged in. Doesn't matter. Like I said, I would never ask that of anyone and I think you an AP demanding that of another AP is out of line. But I really don't care anymore.
    You don't have to prove.. just like uhm give one verifiable thing that isn't just some story from you.

    Nothing is required from anyone. This is just more misdirection from you. You put yourself out there as many things. Longterm LV blackjack counter or guy just totally full of shit. I'm curious which is true.

    Literally, your story is something anyone who cares enough could figure out via books and reading the internet. While I find your stuff interesting to read, you've never said anything interesting except for some story you told me in private. I believed it but now I wonder if I wasn't just fed bullshit. At the time I thought you were a legitimate person and have taken things from that convo as true. I now believe this was a mistake.

    No one needs to vouch for you .. that would suggest something else. Vouching typically means you're good to do business with. Thats far beyond what i want. I'm just wanting someone who knows someone who has done business with you period. Anyone that can verify anything you've ever said. Nothing.. all vague coming from you, yet you live and breath this persona on the internet while living and working in the most AP infested place possible.
    Love my forum fam. You group of misfits are truly the finest people and I'm glad to be a part of this internet experience.

  6. #306
    I am a SOLO card counter. I realize that is a bit of a dying breed. But I have no desire or need to meet many other APs. I have met a few, very few but only if there is a reason to.

    I am tired of this though. Having apparently been voted off the island, I am happy to exit and fine with this result.

  7. #307
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I am a SOLO card counter. I realize that is a bit of a dying breed. But I have no desire or need to meet many other APs. I have met a few, very few but only if there is a reason to.

    I am tired of this though. Having apparently been voted off the island, I am happy to exit and fine with this result.
    You can keep repeating that, but you're still coming onto forums to be part of the gambling culture more than any.

    I talk about all sorts of random shit. Politics etc.

    You? All gambling or proving other people like Rob Singer are wrong. All the real APs don't really seem to give that much of a shit but clown on him for lolz. For you it is personal. Like he is somehow getting more attention than you.....................

    So yea, I get you play solo but everything else suggests you'd have met someone somewhere along the way. But I guess you are known to live in LV at least. Whatever.. I can't keep up. Apparently at one point you faked your death. None of that matters - I just want to know if you are a legitimate AP and if the stuff like what you told me in private is a story I can extrapolate from or would I be far more wise to just dismiss it outright.

    You literally don't even have much of a personality outside of attacking Rob Singer for being fake. It is all gambling speak. Demonstrating your knowledge of gambling, etc. Most other people are just loling it up even the serious AP aren't particularly commenting on strictly gambling stuff. But if we're to believe you, you are 100% about gambling (at least when on this forum..) .. Like, what drives you to interact this way then never meet anyone? You do everything you can to get respect as a gambler on this forum. You went after mdawg. I mean, clearly the guy is full of shit on his winning.. but ultimately who cares so much? ANd if they do, why are they so threatened?

    silliness all around.
    Love my forum fam. You group of misfits are truly the finest people and I'm glad to be a part of this internet experience.

  8. #308
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    So I am supposed to verify who I am, my description, my address, my sexuality, what other AP's I know and do business with?

    Seriously, you people are out of your mind and now on some kind of weird witch hunt. I am an active advantage player and as such can and will do whatever I deem necessary to protect myself, my anonymity and career. Anyone who doesn't understand that, doesn't understand what advantage play is all about.
    I think that you either don't or are refusing to understand the point that I am making. As far as I am concerned, you don't have to verify any of that stuff and I don't really care whether or not you do---but what I fail to comprehend is the need to lie about almost every aspect of your life to include those that wouldn't matter to the casinos anyway. If you want to protect your anonymity, then all you have to do is not say anything about most things.

    IOW, casinos maybe looking for a gay card counter fitting a fake description doesn't, in my opinion, make them any less likely to analyze your play. How would it? The gay card counter persona is not the only card counter in the world, so giving them misinformation on one individual card counter doesn't mean they have stopped looking for other card counters.

    There is a reason fewer and fewer AP's participate here or any forum that isn't private, hidden from public view and protected from non AP's. I am sensing it is that time for me.
    What, you guys think Discord is impenetrable?

    As justification for why I am entitled to do whatever necessary to protect myself and my career, you need look no further that two members, not here, but both previous members here, at a forum where they mirror and repeat everything said here word for word, colluded to post information on multiple forums that they believed was who I am and where I lived, posting this information all over the internet using sockpuppets and private messages.
    They put together what they put together based on all of the stuff you said, it would seem. Had you not said anything along those kind of lines, then there wouldn't be anything to try to put together. That's pretty much my entire point---if the only goal is anonymity, then there's really no difference between lying about everything and just not saying anything about certain matters.

    Now some of you may counter that I have doxxed one of those people, a guy making claims that can't be. I did! This person is not an AP, isn't hiding his play from casinos, but claims he is welcome even though winning 100's of thousands of dollars. So not the same this. The ONLY reason this guy isn't using his real name is so people on the forums can't look into his claims themselves. This person and his claims are more in line with someone like Christopher Mitchell, this Mikki guy, the Blackjack Army Guy Morganstern...those kind of people and should be named. It is you he is hiding from, not the casinos.
    Why do you keep defending this? The fact that he's not an AP doesn't give you rights. There are forums that have nothing to do with gambling where almost all participants use a handle. Why? Because there are nut jobs out there who will reveal all of your personal information because they don't like something that you said on the internet. In the case of Facebook, there are people who will call your employer (if traditionally employed) and try to get you fired for saying something that they don't like.

    Anyway, "This person," is also not selling anything. Oh yeah, this person also didn't lie about everything in his entire background for a decade or more.

    Ironically, MDawg is actually much more of a verified real person than you are based on what you have now said. He was technically more verified before that, but you had a very long history that gave you some credibility on the forums. Now, you've lied about everything. Convincingly. I have to be honest, I'm still leaning more yes than no...and not that it matters...but you actually being a card counter is much closer to being a coin flip in my mind. Why should I believe anything a person says who has supposedly lied about literally everything except for that because...reasons? MDawg is definitely a high-rolling player.

  9. #309
    Kew is hardly a mystery, especially when the only poster anywhere trying his tortured best to support him is the forums-weirdo: redietz.

    It stands to reason that any AP worth his salt would NEVER spend so much time on so many forums trying to sell his brand by constantly talking about himself from all angles. It's nothing but a cry-out for attention and relevance, simply because of a serious deficiency in what the rest of us call a real life. His concocted online life was created for the sole purpose of compensating for his lifelong success-void.

    Kew's self-debunked and very silly claims of "I only joined forums to share experiences and knowledge with other AP's" is easily the No.1 lie in forum history. He's here for drama-creation/stimulation and to try and impress others with his concoction because his real life is such a dismal failure. It is as clear as day.

    The longer he stays and the more he posts, the more foolish he looks. AP's just don't do these things. Which brings us to his character and temperament: Has anyone ever heard of read about a self-proclaimed "under the radar" card-counter who hasn't the discipline to just shut-up and push thru the rough patches, who goes on essay-level rants when people question or disbelieve his BS, who is so easily baited by direct-hit posts, and who is completely incapable of ever doing what he said he would do?

    Now that ALL ELSE has failed, he gives us "digital camouflage" or whatever he calls it.

    What an idiot....but he's an ENTERTAINING one!

  10. #310
    If KJ was lying about being gay it was a very elaborate lie carried on for years and garnished with many stories of being gay.

    But, but, but, but, was he lying about being gay then or lying about being straight now?

    Or is he Transgender, non-binary, cisgender, genderfluid, assigned female at birth, butch, demigender and his pronouns are they/them?

    And what is the purpose of his "coming out" now? Why would he blow his cover if that's what it was?

    What's he up to? That is the question.

    And oh yes. We have a fraudster thats been calling others fraudsters for quite awhile. WTF?
    maxpen, aka dicklicker, is the shit stain in the underwear of life.

  11. #311
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    If KJ was lying about being gay it was a very elaborate lie carried on for years and garnished with many stories of being gay.

    But, but, but, but, was he lying about being gay then or lying about being straight now?

    Or is he Transgender, non-binary, cisgender, genderfluid, assigned female at birth, butch, demigender and his pronouns are they/them?

    And what is the purpose of his "coming out" now? Why would he blow his cover if that's what it was?

    What's he up to? That is the question.

    And oh yes. We have a fraudster thats been calling others fraudsters for quite awhile. WTF?
    Who knows or cares? What difference does it make when you're going to come on here after 10+ years and say that almost everything you have ever said (except, he claims, the card counting parts) has been a total fabrication?

    For all we know, he'll come on here three days from now and say that his saying everything was a lie was the lie and this is all some sort of forum social experiment, or some bullshit like that.

    Anyway, I'm not into any stupid and pointless childish games, so I no longer care what is true or what isn't. I'm not inclined really to believe that KewlJ is lying or telling the truth because, quite frankly, I really don't care at all about anything that he says anymore. It's not entirely his fault, of course. I'm the moke who was stupid enough to believe that people would tell the truth about things that there's no reason to lie about.

    I honestly wanted KewlJ to be about more than Forum drama, but I think something legitimately snapped when he was banned from WoV for however long. I'm not saying that he's not a card counter, but what I am saying is that manufacturing/continuing forum drama...even though there are only, like, 100 participants across all forums...seems to be life priority #1.

  12. #312
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    It sounds like you have decided I am on trial and need to prove something to you. I don't request that from those that I doubt and would never consent to that.

    Nor would I participate somewhere where that is required or it is required that someone vouch for you. There are a couple people that I think could vouch for me. (based on private discussion) but I would never ask them to. One I am not sure if he is still here or not. Been a while since I have seen him logged in. Doesn't matter. Like I said, I would never ask that of anyone and I think you an AP demanding that of another AP is out of line. But I really don't care anymore.
    I'm sure Mr 2 posts from 2 thousand, can vouch for you if he can put down the joint he's smoking for a minute or two

  13. #313
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    If KJ was lying about being gay it was a very elaborate lie carried on for years and garnished with many stories of being gay.

    But, but, but, but, was he lying about being gay then or lying about being straight now?

    Or is he Transgender, non-binary, cisgender, genderfluid, assigned female at birth, butch, demigender and his pronouns are they/them?

    And what is the purpose of his "coming out" now? Why would he blow his cover if that's what it was?

    What's he up to? That is the question.

    And oh yes. We have a fraudster thats been calling others fraudsters for quite awhile. WTF?
    Who knows or cares? What difference does it make when you're going to come on here after 10+ years and say that almost everything you have ever said (except, he claims, the card counting parts) has been a total fabrication?

    For all we know, he'll come on here three days from now and say that his saying everything was a lie was the lie and this is all some sort of forum social experiment, or some bullshit like that.

    Anyway, I'm not into any stupid and pointless childish games, so I no longer care what is true or what isn't. I'm not inclined really to believe that KewlJ is lying or telling the truth because, quite frankly, I really don't care at all about anything that he says anymore. It's not entirely his fault, of course. I'm the moke who was stupid enough to believe that people would tell the truth about things that there's no reason to lie about.

    I honestly wanted KewlJ to be about more than Forum drama, but I think something legitimately snapped when he was banned from WoV for however long. I'm not saying that he's not a card counter, but what I am saying is that manufacturing/continuing forum drama...even though there are only, like, 100 participants across all forums...seems to be life priority #1.
    LOL once again at Marathon Man not caring ! You're guesstimate of 100 active participants across all 4 forums is pretty accurate, as long as you don't count all the socks/dupes and all the phonies/bots at GF and wise guys like Mleus !

  14. #314
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Anyway, I'm not into any stupid and pointless childish games, so I no longer care what is true or what isn't. I'm not inclined really to believe that KewlJ is lying or telling the truth because, quite frankly, I really don't care at all about anything that he says anymore. It's not entirely his fault, of course. I'm the moke who was stupid enough to believe that people would tell the truth about things that there's no reason to lie about.
    You care enough to write essays on the subject.
    I believe jbjb when he says he doesn't care.

  15. #315
    Well, both of you are assholes. LOL

    I don't care about what is true or untrue, or what gets said, in the future. I care about the fact that I was duped into caring about a person as a friend and hoping things go well for that person for the better part of a decade when everything that they have ever said (except maybe the card counting) is probably totally untrue. He claims still to have a partner that died, but why would I believe that? When you're lying about trivial things where there is no real benefit to the lie, then what should be believed?

    The point is that I never met him, but KewlJ was a person to me who I wanted to see succeed and do well. Now, KewlJ is just a handle and, as far as I am concerned, one that is just as random as someone making their first ever post.

  16. #316
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    LOL once again at Marathon Man not caring ! You're guesstimate of 100 active participants across all 4 forums is pretty accurate, as long as you don't count all the socks/dupes and all the phonies/bots at GF and wise guys like Mleus !
    Oh that's bullshit!
    You beat to the punch yet again.
    Nicely Done.

  17. #317
    Through all of this, kewl has never once suggested how he might be verified as a legitimate AP. He craved it endlessly online but just can't do one thing to verify it in real life. (so far)

    The thing about Rob Singer is he has thick skin. He loves this shit. I'd say he doesn't pretend to be a real AP, but I guess he does. Who else has machines telepath to them? I have no desire to rip Kewl apart but people need to know. I don't like being told nonsensical fairytale bullshit.

    If he is really an AP he'll be fine and it'll do him some good to log the fuck off. If he isn't an AP, well sorry I ruined his outlet in life but he really shouldn't be bsing people like he has.

    In the end, he has been given many chances to somehow demonstrate himself to someone who has proven themselves to not be a psycho anti-AP type but it has never happened. When he references a mutual party, he did it in a way that only suggests that he believes this person might exist. The person he sold the machine too.. surely he could describe him in some way.

    That goes to another thing. Where in the fuck on the internet are people selling bootleg shufflemasters? The darkweb? lolol. Surely some site that doesn't exist anymore... I mean, show us this site and it'd be enough for me, kewl.

    In the end, Kewl has just went on the defensive and tried to mislead what I've suggested he provide. I never wanted him to prove anything. I have nothing personal against the guy. He seems nice enough. I just want him to show a shred of credible evidence that doesn't rely on him having convinced other BOZos etc.
    Love my forum fam. You group of misfits are truly the finest people and I'm glad to be a part of this internet experience.

  18. #318
    I don't know if Rob pretends to be, did the DUB or just pretends to be someone pretending to be. The thing about the RV, "Evidence," is that the evidence was so ridiculous that someone smart enough to write a coherent sentence, which Rob certainly is, has to know that the evidence presented was totally ridiculous...but then he goes on talking about it as if it wasn't.

    IOW, Rob's MO...regardless of what is or is not actually true...is strictly just fucking around with people, at this point. Besides, he's funny.

    Who gives a fuck what KewlJ does or doesn't show? I'll just assume everything that he says from this point forward is a lie and that's good enough for me. If he deems it necessary to prove otherwise, then he is free to do that, but I don't really give a fuck if he does or not.

  19. #319
    UNKOOL1 integrity is just above the basement dweller, the worst of the worst, Rusty the Manboy Weasel Shankleford. Absolutely pathetic, even for someone as UNKOOL as he is !

  20. #320
    Maybe he just wants to stop spending so much time on the forums, but can't figure out a way to make himself do that, unless he burns it down. I don't know. There's no question that he's completely obsessive when it comes to this forum stuff, regardless of what else is or isn't true.

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