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  1. #361
    Originally Posted by Garnabby View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Garnabby View Post
    When KJ started posting 15(?) years ago, the "woods" were full of, supposedly, winning players. That crowd only thinned out, until a very few remained. In this context, it's easy to see how such a "player" replete with "life story" came about. A few of many such players just never gave up the same spiel. Besides a raft of technical reasons that there's a near-zero chance of such, there are a few basic observations. Eg, why is it that all of the so-called slot pros, expert card counters, and, so on, invariably lead backward and otherwise nutty lives? Neither of them is ever anywhere near normal. Most of them are functionally illiterate, at the level of suckers you'd expect to see in the casinos after dark. It's no coincidence either that they are the only ones on the forums who end up in the endless diatribes (with each other). For sure, anyone whom KJ, say, Crimm, ever "helped out" here and there is long gone.
    You're clearly more nuts and as big of a loser as anyone. Slot players barely talk about the stuff. I don't think you even know the lives of most of these people. Reality is you seem too insane to be able to accurately tell much of anything.

    Can't you just go back to wherever you spend the previous few months?
    I'm the one, a couple of years ago, who spent two days with KJ to go over whatever he thought he was doing. When it came time to pin him down on his changing "numbers", well, he fucked off. How long have you been associated with the online gambling forums? The paths of psychological destruction and ruin run deep. Every type and degree of pattern of such "response". Shackleford had "his" people over there make up stuff about me just to have them ban me, after I posted up a psychiatrist's view of the mental health of a supposed academic who handed out such advice (that it's okay to lose to the casinos as long as it's not all at once.) A while back, I posted up a casino exec's take on how and why slot vulturing doesn't matter because it's strictly low-income. You'd think that if anyone cared, it would have been him.

    But, sorry, again, for trying to include some information in my posts.

    Hey, Garnabby, my take on things has pretty much always been that casinos are evil bastards and the job is to prevent them from exploiting innumerate everymans.

    However, with that specific attitude, the overall context in which I frame things is that gambling is one experiential consumer (call it choice or call it addiction, your choice/addiction) option. There are literally thousands of others, and it may be misleading to lump slots, poker, and sports betting as "addictive gambling" when they are so disparate, while buying fast food, or fossil fuels to drive, may be as addictive in terms of expenditure and repeating behaviors as any accepted "gambling" categories.

    So I'm one of those people who thinks that blowing money on gambling experiences isn't necessarily worse than blowing it on SUVs or Big Macs. Because Americans have so much money, until you get to a relatively huge chunk, who's to say this is a good consumer choice versus that? We're exposed to somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000 ads a day. If they weren't addictive, they wouldn't be there.

    Thus, I lump it all together as addictive purchase of unnecessary things/experiences/services. Who am I to say blowing 10K a year on slots is worse than blowing it on Whoppers and pizza?

    My job, as I see it, is to report on the realities of the math, not to tell folks what they should do with their money. The former is objective; the latter is subjective.

    I am going to post links to two of my recent responses to an anti-gambling op-ed, which I thought was, as always, short-sighted because it provides no framing of American consumer behaviors. I'll start up a new thread.
    Last edited by redietz; 01-12-2022 at 10:55 AM.

  2. #362
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    You're clearly more nuts and as big of a loser as anyone. Slot players barely talk about the stuff. I don't think you even know the lives of most of these people. Reality is you seem too insane to be able to accurately tell much of anything.

    Can't you just go back to wherever you spend the previous few months?
    I agree with this completely and I usually try to like Garnabby.

    The what and how of many forms of AP has been discussed on the various sites to greater lengths than many AP's would even like. That doesn't mean that everyone who claims to be doing it does it or that everyone makes the money that they claim to make, but beating the casinos is certainly possible and, sometimes, easy. I've talked about offset wagering for the online sports promotions, for example...and as long as you're careful with the way you do it, it's literally impossible NOT to profit. Furthermore, any place with the Skill Games such as the PA Skill Games, again, you never take even so much as a single spin that's not at least breakeven if you don't want to.

    That said, most of the sort of AP that I do is bunts and singles...and I understand that's not going to be for everyone. I also don't make a ton of money doing it and have never claimed that I make a ton, so again, that's not going to be for everyone.

    For me, I don't have any motivations with an eye towards being extremely wealthy and I make about equal amounts from writing and all forms of gambling. It's not an opulent lifestyle and is, in fact, very very middle class...but I work when I want to and for whatever amount of time that I want to and take days off whenever I want to, so it works for me. If it doesn't work for you, that's fine, I don't really give a fuck what you want to do or don't want to do. As far as the lowest-hanging online fruit, if you don't think a few hundred dollars (which you can get a few times over at different places) virtually risk-free is worth snatching, then don't do it...your money, your time and your prerogative.

    The only thing that I don't understand is why some people are cockblowers who would categorically deny that AP exists, or criticize AP's for doing what they do. What the hell are you even doing on a gambling forum, then? I use information to make money and share information (that I come about on my own---not what I am told) so other people can make money, if they choose. Who the fuck is anyone to tell me what I should do or not do? I don't tell people they need to go out and AP and I don't care what recreational players do with their own money.

    My only concerns with recreational gamblers is that I hope people can avoid gambling addiction, recognize if they have signs of same and I try to talk people off of believing in systems...and especially paying for bad gambling advice when I offer good gambling advice for free. Other than that, your money, you do what you want.

    But, I understand there are some people who have nothing useful, much less positive, to offer either here or anywhere...and they have to get their rocks off somehow. Not saying you're one of them Garnabby, but they are out there, so I guess everyone else will just have to live with them.
    Last edited by Mission146; 01-12-2022 at 11:26 AM.

  3. #363
    Also, Garnabby, MickeyCrimm has been helpful to me in many ways and, I would like to think, that I have been at least a little helpful to him. I know I was helpful to him at least once. Who the hell have you ever helped on here? You're not fit to hold Crimm's jock.

  4. #364
    Originally Posted by Garnabby View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Garnabby View Post
    When KJ started posting 15(?) years ago, the "woods" were full of, supposedly, winning players. That crowd only thinned out, until a very few remained. In this context, it's easy to see how such a "player" replete with "life story" came about. A few of many such players just never gave up the same spiel. Besides a raft of technical reasons that there's a near-zero chance of such, there are a few basic observations. Eg, why is it that all of the so-called slot pros, expert card counters, and, so on, invariably lead backward and otherwise nutty lives? Neither of them is ever anywhere near normal. Most of them are functionally illiterate, at the level of suckers you'd expect to see in the casinos after dark. It's no coincidence either that they are the only ones on the forums who end up in the endless diatribes (with each other). For sure, anyone whom KJ, say, Crimm, ever "helped out" here and there is long gone.
    You're clearly more nuts and as big of a loser as anyone. Slot players barely talk about the stuff. I don't think you even know the lives of most of these people. Reality is you seem too insane to be able to accurately tell much of anything.

    Can't you just go back to wherever you spend the previous few months?
    I'm the one, a couple of years ago, who spent two days with KJ to go over whatever he thought he was doing. When it came time to pin him down on his changing "numbers", well, he fucked off. How long have you been associated with the online gambling forums? The paths of psychological destruction and ruin run deep. Every type and degree of pattern of such "response". Shackleford had "his" people over there make up stuff about me just to have them ban me, after I posted up a psychiatrist's view of the mental health of a supposed academic who handed out such advice (that it's okay to lose to the casinos as long as it's not all at once.) A while back, I posted up a casino exec's take on how and why slot vulturing doesn't matter because it's strictly low-income. You'd think that if anyone cared, it would have been him.

    But, sorry, again, for trying to include some information in my posts.
    What, straight up vulturing is low income? I don't know and won't say no...depends on what your definition is. My average hour spent vulturing is worth it for my time, or I wouldn't do it. All you need to know is that means at least $25/hour...sometimes more and sometimes less depending on what I am doing, but I've at least got it well-enough that I don't get off my ass for less than $25/hour expectation.

    That would be $52,000/year given 40 hours a week and 52 weeks a year...I work a bit less than that overall and may or may not make a bit more than that. But, again, $25/hour is my bare minimum for doing anything.

  5. #365
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    On the other hand I can't help but wonder who he really is. what is his actual blackjack story?
    You want the freaking story! I guess I can tell the whole story now as the damage has been done. It is now just a matter of how much damage is there? Is it permanent and fatal to my career.

    Everything I have shared about my blackjack experiences/Journey and personal life is true. People wonder why I share little parts of my personal life and it is because it is all tied together. Yes, in recent years there has been trolling....alot. I get trolled a lot and try to hit back. There isn't all that much chance for me to share my blackjack experiences as there are few people here interested in blackjack and let's face it not that much real talk about AP or gambling experience. Mickety does some as there seems to be a number of machine players, but for blackjack, not much. Despite this I still did try to share the horrendously bad year, (way below expectation), my worst year of my career, in 2020, just to show the kind of variance we deal with in blackjack card counting. How many players share that kind of experience is such detail?

    So moving forward. A month or maybe 2 now, I was doxxed by Mdawg on that True Passages forum. I can prove it was him and will in a minute. A new member of that forum (sock puppet) with the handle "whoknowswho" posted my name, address, condo complex name, description of my unit as far as bedrooms and bathroom. It took several days and my attorney getting involved to get that information XXXed out. But it has since been repeated on other forums, by Moses and Mdawg and Pm's sent around the community. So one more thing about that forum, true passages that Mdawg posts at. He is the only person posting in the gambling section and has created a thread for every person who has ever challenged his claims including members here. I happen to believe Mdawg owns or is associated with that forum. It is out of southern California and is a forum about writing and stories and that is what he does.

    Ok, continuing to move on, unrelated last fall I was backed of play in another city that resulted in a new entry in one of the big databases. That happens. Part of the job. I have had a small number of entries over the years. You take a little break, waiting for fresher entries to bump you from the front page or screen because that is all most pit folks look at. My entries have never had ANY information with them. Not even a AKA (also know as). That wasn't by accident.

    So late last week, my pit friend informed me that my last entry from last fall had been updated with personal information, my name, address, age, and bumped back to the front page. That very information from this doxxing. I haven't even played in 6 weeks.

    Now my proof that it was Mdawg that doxxed me on what I beleive is HIS true passages forum, using a sock puppet: Early last summer, when Mdawg announced he was looking for a residence in LV, I forget what he said but it seemed like he was interested in a high end, high rise condo close to the strip. (he later claims to have bought a mansion which he now never mentions, nor has moved into). So anyway, back then, we weren't on the bad terms we are now, so I Pmed him, suggesting he might want to look into Panorama Towers and The Martin on Dean Martin drive behind the strip. They once were the same complex but split and the Martin in particular has some high end units going for millions.

    He asked if that is where I lived and I denied it, but I am sure at that point he investigated (public information) and found the unit owned by two males (my brother and I) and got all the information he needed that which he later used to dox me. The description of the unit is the big tell that this is where that info came from and it was him.

    Now I know some people (mission) will say I doxxed him. I disagree. He isn't an AP. He doesn't play unrated or hide his play from casinos, as a matter of fact quite the contrary. He wants them to know every bet he makes so he gets credit and claims they welcome him and tell him he is the greatest. So he in no way is hiding from the casinos. So the ONLY reason he is not using a real name on forums, is so that members of the forums can't look and discover that all his claims are BS. He isn't hiding from the casinos, he is hiding from forum members who may discover the truth.

    So while, yes I put his name out there (and his on line Law School which seems to be the thing that really embarrasses him) that harms him in no way, other than maybe his ability to keep posting these phony claims. It doesn't hurt him financially unless it hurts some future book deal. That is far different than doxxing an AP who depends on anonymity to be able to play and earn a living. And frankly anyone on gambling forums, I don't care if you are an AP or not, or professional, serious or recreational player, doxxing a fulltime AP that makes a living off casinos is a line that can not be crossed and should not be tolerated on any gambling related forum.

    Now while I know where this new information to my database entry came from, did it really just get updated now, from a doxxing 6 weeks or 2 months ago, or did Mdawg now send the info to the database company. I don't have proof of that but it is highly likely since he didn't cause the damage he wanted from the doxxing, he took the next step.

    So that brings up up to this weekend. Upon learning of this new developement, I tried to do something. I knew few would really believe my little flip flop, but I thought it might create just enough doubt or confusion, not on the forums but more so with the database people to at least muddy the waters. But that is not going to happen now, with all this discussion. I am screwed. I don't know if it is a fatal blow to my career, or something a little (probably a lot) of time can heal. But for the 3rd time now posting on forums has put me and my career at risk. This time, I was actually just trying to be a nice guy and advise Mdawg of a place that fit what he was looking for and might be interested in.

    All the trolling is one thing, somewhat fun and entertaining, but this is just bullshit that someone would stoop to this level to harm someone just because they don't believe and have challenged their bullshit story and claims. I am now left to figure out if I can play anymore or need to move. You are a fucking low life Mdawg and I hope you get what is coming to you.

  6. #366
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    On the other hand I can't help but wonder who he really is. what is his actual blackjack story?
    You want the freaking story! I guess I can tell the whole story now as the damage has been done. It is now just a matter of how much damage is there? Is it permanent and fatal to my career.

    Everything I have shared about my blackjack experiences/Journey and personal life is true. People wonder why I share little parts of my personal life and it is because it is all tied together. Yes, in recent years there has been trolling....alot. I get trolled a lot and try to hit back. There isn't all that much chance for me to share my blackjack experiences as there are few people here interested in blackjack and let's face it not that much real talk about AP or gambling experience. Mickety does some as there seems to be a number of machine players, but for blackjack, not much. Despite this I still did try to share the horrendously bad year, (way below expectation), my worst year of my career, in 2020, just to show the kind of variance we deal with in blackjack card counting. How many players share that kind of experience is such detail?

    So moving forward. A month or maybe 2 now, I was doxxed by Mdawg on that True Passages forum. I can prove it was him and will in a minute. A new member of that forum (sock puppet) with the handle "whoknowswho" posted my name, address, condo complex name, description of my unit as far as bedrooms and bathroom. It took several days and my attorney getting involved to get that information XXXed out. But it has since been repeated on other forums, by Moses and Mdawg and Pm's sent around the community. So one more thing about that forum, true passages that Mdawg posts at. He is the only person posting in the gambling section and has created a thread for every person who has ever challenged his claims including members here. I happen to believe Mdawg owns or is associated with that forum. It is out of southern California and is a forum about writing and stories and that is what he does.

    Ok, continuing to move on, unrelated last fall I was backed of play in another city that resulted in a new entry in one of the big databases. That happens. Part of the job. I have had a small number of entries over the years. You take a little break, waiting for fresher entries to bump you from the front page or screen because that is all most pit folks look at. My entries have never had ANY information with them. Not even a AKA (also know as). That wasn't by accident.

    So late last week, my pit friend informed me that my last entry from last fall had been updated with personal information, my name, address, age, and bumped back to the front page. That very information from this doxxing. I haven't even played in 6 weeks.

    Now my proof that it was Mdawg that doxxed me on what I beleive is HIS true passages forum, using a sock puppet: Early last summer, when Mdawg announced he was looking for a residence in LV, I forget what he said but it seemed like he was interested in a high end, high rise condo close to the strip. (he later claims to have bought a mansion which he now never mentions, nor has moved into). So anyway, back then, we weren't on the bad terms we are now, so I Pmed him, suggesting he might want to look into Panorama Towers and The Martin on Dean Martin drive behind the strip. They once were the same complex but split and the Martin in particular has some high end units going for millions.

    He asked if that is where I lived and I denied it, but I am sure at that point he investigated (public information) and found the unit owned by two males (my brother and I) and got all the information he needed that which he later used to dox me. The description of the unit is the big tell that this is where that info came from and it was him.

    Now I know some people (mission) will say I doxxed him. I disagree. He isn't an AP. He doesn't play unrated or hide his play from casinos, as a matter of fact quite the contrary. He wants them to know every bet he makes so he gets credit and claims they welcome him and tell him he is the greatest. So he in no way is hiding from the casinos. So the ONLY reason he is not using a real name on forums, is so that members of the forums can't look and discover that all his claims are BS. He isn't hiding from the casinos, he is hiding from forum members who may discover the truth.

    So while, yes I put his name out there (and his on line Law School which seems to be the thing that really embarrasses him) that harms him in no way, other than maybe his ability to keep posting these phony claims. It doesn't hurt him financially unless it hurts some future book deal. That is far different than doxxing an AP who depends on anonymity to be able to play and earn a living. And frankly anyone on gambling forums, I don't care if you are an AP or not, or professional, serious or recreational player, doxxing a fulltime AP that makes a living off casinos is a line that can not be crossed and should not be tolerated on any gambling related forum.

    Now while I know where this new information to my database entry came from, did it really just get updated now, from a doxxing 6 weeks or 2 months ago, or did Mdawg now send the info to the database company. I don't have proof of that but it is highly likely since he didn't cause the damage he wanted from the doxxing, he took the next step.

    So that brings up up to this weekend. Upon learning of this new developement, I tried to do something. I knew few would really believe my little flip flop, but I thought it might create just enough doubt or confusion, not on the forums but more so with the database people to at least muddy the waters. But that is not going to happen now, with all this discussion. I am screwed. I don't know if it is a fatal blow to my career, or something a little (probably a lot) of time can heal. But for the 3rd time now posting on forums has put me and my career at risk. This time, I was actually just trying to be a nice guy and advise Mdawg of a place that fit what he was looking for and might be interested in.

    All the trolling is one thing, somewhat fun and entertaining, but this is just bullshit that someone would stoop to this level to harm someone just because they don't believe and have challenged their bullshit story and claims. I am now left to figure out if I can play anymore or need to move. You are a fucking low life Mdawg and I hope you get what is coming to you.
    TLDR and don't have to because I will get the gist/verdict from the responses.

  7. #367
    Originally Posted by monet View Post

    TLDR and don't have to because I will get the gist/verdict from the responses.
    Yeah, A lot to read Monet. You might have to put down your fucking donut for 30 seconds. Get off your fucking high horse you judgmental prick.

  8. #368
    kewlJ's greatest gift to the gambling forums is coming up with the word Mendlebread and hinting at its recipe created by Hitler.

  9. #369
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You are a fucking low life Mdawg and I hope you get what is coming to you.
    --->

    Can't Get You Out of My Head (Kylie Minogue song).

    https://anagram-solver.net/You%20are...0?partial=true


    I always get a kick out of people who make some overly long and boring presentation only to throw the whole thing in the garbage with some parting shot. Why bring any of this crap to a gambling forum? If you have a serious problem with the guy, do something other than hope that he gets what's coming. Inside out and backwards. Gosh, no wonder so many fifty-year-old grudges (for a guy who's supposed to be in his thirties.) But, I guess, the only way for you to falsely prove out your initial claim. Yeah, sure, put it in bold, proves everything.


    Every one /everyone knows it all. Yet, no thing /nothing is known by any one /anyone.

    Suckers think they are beating the house. It wins unless it lets you win, to give you an even worse beating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsa6ojQcYXQ

    Shut it down, Garnabby. ---> Anything, but a BS word.

    GFs pg. 455=178+277; sqrt(178X277=22+222^2)~222, as in https://discord.com/channels/4843422...04079147761715

    Also, 178+187=365. 277+277=555-1; 227+227=455-1.

  10. #370
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    TLDR and don't have to because I will get the gist/verdict from the responses.
    I think a first for no goofy smiley jigglies with sunglasses. Looks like KJ is really irked, off his "game".
    Every one /everyone knows it all. Yet, no thing /nothing is known by any one /anyone.

    Suckers think they are beating the house. It wins unless it lets you win, to give you an even worse beating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsa6ojQcYXQ

    Shut it down, Garnabby. ---> Anything, but a BS word.

    GFs pg. 455=178+277; sqrt(178X277=22+222^2)~222, as in https://discord.com/channels/4843422...04079147761715

    Also, 178+187=365. 277+277=555-1; 227+227=455-1.

  11. #371
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    TLDR and don't have to because I will get the gist/verdict from the responses.
    No doubt professor ditz will soon lecture us on how Ockham's Razor explains everything, and that he knew it all along.

  12. #372
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    On the other hand I can't help but wonder who he really is. what is his actual blackjack story?
    You want the freaking story! I guess I can tell the whole story now as the damage has been done. It is now just a matter of how much damage is there? Is it permanent and fatal to my career.

    Everything I have shared about my blackjack experiences/Journey and personal life is true. People wonder why I share little parts of my personal life and it is because it is all tied together. Yes, in recent years there has been trolling....alot. I get trolled a lot and try to hit back. There isn't all that much chance for me to share my blackjack experiences as there are few people here interested in blackjack and let's face it not that much real talk about AP or gambling experience. Mickety does some as there seems to be a number of machine players, but for blackjack, not much. Despite this I still did try to share the horrendously bad year, (way below expectation), my worst year of my career, in 2020, just to show the kind of variance we deal with in blackjack card counting. How many players share that kind of experience is such detail?

    So moving forward. A month or maybe 2 now, I was doxxed by Mdawg on that True Passages forum. I can prove it was him and will in a minute. A new member of that forum (sock puppet) with the handle "whoknowswho" posted my name, address, condo complex name, description of my unit as far as bedrooms and bathroom. It took several days and my attorney getting involved to get that information XXXed out. But it has since been repeated on other forums, by Moses and Mdawg and Pm's sent around the community. So one more thing about that forum, true passages that Mdawg posts at. He is the only person posting in the gambling section and has created a thread for every person who has ever challenged his claims including members here. I happen to believe Mdawg owns or is associated with that forum. It is out of southern California and is a forum about writing and stories and that is what he does.

    Ok, continuing to move on, unrelated last fall I was backed of play in another city that resulted in a new entry in one of the big databases. That happens. Part of the job. I have had a small number of entries over the years. You take a little break, waiting for fresher entries to bump you from the front page or screen because that is all most pit folks look at. My entries have never had ANY information with them. Not even a AKA (also know as). That wasn't by accident.

    So late last week, my pit friend informed me that my last entry from last fall had been updated with personal information, my name, address, age, and bumped back to the front page. That very information from this doxxing. I haven't even played in 6 weeks.

    Now my proof that it was Mdawg that doxxed me on what I beleive is HIS true passages forum, using a sock puppet: Early last summer, when Mdawg announced he was looking for a residence in LV, I forget what he said but it seemed like he was interested in a high end, high rise condo close to the strip. (he later claims to have bought a mansion which he now never mentions, nor has moved into). So anyway, back then, we weren't on the bad terms we are now, so I Pmed him, suggesting he might want to look into Panorama Towers and The Martin on Dean Martin drive behind the strip. They once were the same complex but split and the Martin in particular has some high end units going for millions.

    He asked if that is where I lived and I denied it, but I am sure at that point he investigated (public information) and found the unit owned by two males (my brother and I) and got all the information he needed that which he later used to dox me. The description of the unit is the big tell that this is where that info came from and it was him.

    Now I know some people (mission) will say I doxxed him. I disagree. He isn't an AP. He doesn't play unrated or hide his play from casinos, as a matter of fact quite the contrary. He wants them to know every bet he makes so he gets credit and claims they welcome him and tell him he is the greatest. So he in no way is hiding from the casinos. So the ONLY reason he is not using a real name on forums, is so that members of the forums can't look and discover that all his claims are BS. He isn't hiding from the casinos, he is hiding from forum members who may discover the truth.

    So while, yes I put his name out there (and his on line Law School which seems to be the thing that really embarrasses him) that harms him in no way, other than maybe his ability to keep posting these phony claims. It doesn't hurt him financially unless it hurts some future book deal. That is far different than doxxing an AP who depends on anonymity to be able to play and earn a living. And frankly anyone on gambling forums, I don't care if you are an AP or not, or professional, serious or recreational player, doxxing a fulltime AP that makes a living off casinos is a line that can not be crossed and should not be tolerated on any gambling related forum.

    Now while I know where this new information to my database entry came from, did it really just get updated now, from a doxxing 6 weeks or 2 months ago, or did Mdawg now send the info to the database company. I don't have proof of that but it is highly likely since he didn't cause the damage he wanted from the doxxing, he took the next step.

    So that brings up up to this weekend. Upon learning of this new developement, I tried to do something. I knew few would really believe my little flip flop, but I thought it might create just enough doubt or confusion, not on the forums but more so with the database people to at least muddy the waters. But that is not going to happen now, with all this discussion. I am screwed. I don't know if it is a fatal blow to my career, or something a little (probably a lot) of time can heal. But for the 3rd time now posting on forums has put me and my career at risk. This time, I was actually just trying to be a nice guy and advise Mdawg of a place that fit what he was looking for and might be interested in.

    All the trolling is one thing, somewhat fun and entertaining, but this is just bullshit that someone would stoop to this level to harm someone just because they don't believe and have challenged their bullshit story and claims. I am now left to figure out if I can play anymore or need to move. You are a fucking low life Mdawg and I hope you get what is coming to you.
    The thing that got you here in the first place is telling stories. Why continue? Do you really want all to know more details?

  13. #373
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Everything I have shared about my blackjack experiences/Journey and personal life is true
    Even the stuff you wrote about Mission?

    (asking for a friend who exploited the DUB)

  14. #374
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Garnabby View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    You're clearly more nuts and as big of a loser as anyone. Slot players barely talk about the stuff. I don't think you even know the lives of most of these people. Reality is you seem too insane to be able to accurately tell much of anything.

    Can't you just go back to wherever you spend the previous few months?
    I'm the one, a couple of years ago, who spent two days with KJ to go over whatever he thought he was doing. When it came time to pin him down on his changing "numbers", well, he fucked off. How long have you been associated with the online gambling forums? The paths of psychological destruction and ruin run deep. Every type and degree of pattern of such "response". Shackleford had "his" people over there make up stuff about me just to have them ban me, after I posted up a psychiatrist's view of the mental health of a supposed academic who handed out such advice (that it's okay to lose to the casinos as long as it's not all at once.) A while back, I posted up a casino exec's take on how and why slot vulturing doesn't matter because it's strictly low-income. You'd think that if anyone cared, it would have been him.

    But, sorry, again, for trying to include some information in my posts.

    Hey, Garnabby, my take on things has pretty much always been that casinos are evil bastards and the job is to prevent them from exploiting innumerate everymans.

    However, with that specific attitude, the overall context in which I frame things is that gambling is one experiential consumer (call it choice or call it addiction, your choice/addiction) option. There are literally thousands of others, and it may be misleading to lump slots, poker, and sports betting as "addictive gambling" when they are so disparate, while buying fast food, or fossil fuels to drive, may be as addictive in terms of expenditure and repeating behaviors as any accepted "gambling" categories.

    So I'm one of those people who thinks that blowing money on gambling experiences isn't necessarily worse than blowing it on SUVs or Big Macs. Because Americans have so much money, until you get to a relatively huge chunk, who's to say this is a good consumer choice versus that? We're exposed to somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000 ads a day. If they weren't addictive, they wouldn't be there.

    Thus, I lump it all together as addictive purchase of unnecessary things/experiences/services. Who am I to say blowing 10K a year on slots is worse than blowing it on Whoppers and pizza?

    My job, as I see it, is to report on the realities of the math, not to tell folks what they should do with their money. The former is objective; the latter is subjective.

    I am going to post links to two of my recent responses to an anti-gambling op-ed, which I thought was, as always, short-sighted because it provides no framing of American consumer behaviors. I'll start up a new thread.
    Red, this is fine. When there is a proved working theory of everything, we might know one thing for real, from which everything else immediately follows. The reason I think that there must be also a game theory of everything, by which every thing is finally defined when all things are.
    Every one /everyone knows it all. Yet, no thing /nothing is known by any one /anyone.

    Suckers think they are beating the house. It wins unless it lets you win, to give you an even worse beating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsa6ojQcYXQ

    Shut it down, Garnabby. ---> Anything, but a BS word.

    GFs pg. 455=178+277; sqrt(178X277=22+222^2)~222, as in https://discord.com/channels/4843422...04079147761715

    Also, 178+187=365. 277+277=555-1; 227+227=455-1.

  15. #375
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    You're clearly more nuts and as big of a loser as anyone. Slot players barely talk about the stuff. I don't think you even know the lives of most of these people. Reality is you seem too insane to be able to accurately tell much of anything.

    Can't you just go back to wherever you spend the previous few months?
    I agree with this completely and I usually try to like Garnabby.
    There are two types of people you can't hurt. One is a Christian so far as standing by the truth until the bitter end. The other, a crazy, deranged motherfucker out to kill someone else for the same reason. Put them together, and, next, by all means, have at it. Let those "chips" fall where they may.
    Every one /everyone knows it all. Yet, no thing /nothing is known by any one /anyone.

    Suckers think they are beating the house. It wins unless it lets you win, to give you an even worse beating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsa6ojQcYXQ

    Shut it down, Garnabby. ---> Anything, but a BS word.

    GFs pg. 455=178+277; sqrt(178X277=22+222^2)~222, as in https://discord.com/channels/4843422...04079147761715

    Also, 178+187=365. 277+277=555-1; 227+227=455-1.

  16. #376
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post

    The thing that got you here in the first place is telling stories. Why continue? Do you really want all to know more details?
    Doesn't matter now. The damage is done. The guy, accountinquestion asked so I told him what really happened.

    And Garnabby, you are a fucking retard. There are a lot of people playing games and just trolling for fun, like Ozzy, and even Singer, but you are just a fucking mental case.

  17. #377
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post

    The thing that got you here in the first place is telling stories. Why continue? Do you really want all to know more details?
    Doesn't matter now. The damage is done. The guy, accountinquestion asked so I told him what really happened.

    And Garnabby, you are a fucking retard. There are a lot of people playing games and just trolling for fun, like Ozzy, and even Singer, but you are just a fucking mental case.
    I'm not sure what is going on and at this point no longer care. If you ever verify your play somehow it would be interesting to see. As far as all this other stuff, I have no desire to get you in further trouble than you've gotten yourself into. There may be many ways someone could find out who you are, especially if they're willing to throw 1k at someone. I'm not sure why you insist on making so much noise about yourself. This clearly did nothing but make your situation worse and was pretty much destined to do so, regardless of whether I was involved.

    Ultimately I don't care. If your livliehood has been damaged, then thats already too much for me. Good luck.
    Love my forum fam. You group of misfits are truly the finest people and I'm glad to be a part of this internet experience.

  18. #378
    I would also like to wish the best of luck to KewlJ.

    I won't reveal too much of our conversation and was surprised he posted about this...since I actually thought he was going to stop posting entirely...but he basically PM'ed me the substance of what he posted today, yesterday, because he apparently felt that I was getting pretty close to figuring it out and would have eventually done it and said something.

    He has now said something, but I'm obviously not going to share any other details of our conversation.

    The one area (only because KewlJ mentioned it) where I disagree with him is that I don't think MDawg not being an AP gave KewlJ rights to doxx him. In my opinion, and I'd think most others, it doesn't change that what KewlJ did was Doxxing. I've never heard of any standard where you either Doxx or not Doxx based on whether or not you consider a person a liar or how much damage it is going to do to them, or whatever. Even if it's not anything over the level of embarrassment, if you Doxx someone, then you're doing it to cause some type of damage to them and it's really just not a Forum rule (and almost all forums I have seen, if not all, have that rule---gambling or otherwise) where it's up to interpretation or caveats.

    So, I think what happened with KewlJ is very unfortunate and I am quite surprised that whoever did it would take it that far, but what I said to KewlJ was, "It looks like you did it first, but he (whether it was MDawg or someone else pissed that KewlJ Doxxed MDawg) did it better."

    Anyway, that's where we are at with the whole thing. I'll wish KewlJ good luck and hope for the best for him after he drops back off of the radar...if he plans to continue to primarily be a card counter, I don't think he'll be very active in that regard until that happens.
    Last edited by Mission146; 01-12-2022 at 04:51 PM.

  19. #379
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I would also like to wish the best of luck to KewlJ.

    I won't reveal too much of our conversation and was surprised he posted about this...since I actually thought he was going to stop posting entirely...but he basically PM'ed me the substance of what he posted today, yesterday, because he apparently felt that I was getting pretty close to figuring it out and would have eventually done it and said something.

    He has now said something, but I'm obviously not going to share any other details of our conversation.

    The one area (only because KewlJ mentioned it) where I disagree with him is that I don't think MDawg not being an AP gave KewlJ rights to doxx him. In my opinion, and I'd think most others, it doesn't change that what KewlJ did was Doxxing. I've never heard of any standard where you either Doxx or not Doxx based on whether or not you consider a person a liar or how much damage it is going to do to them, or whatever. Even if it's not anything over the level of embarrassment, if you Doxx someone, then you're doing it to cause some type of damage to them and it's really just not a Forum rule (and almost all forums I have seen, if not all, have that rule---gambling or otherwise) where it's up to interpretation or caveats.

    So, I think what happened with KewlJ is very unfortunate and I am quite surprised that whoever did it would take it that far, but what I said to KewlJ was, "It looks like you did it first, but he did it better."

    Anyway, that's where we are at with the whole thing. I'll wish KewlJ good luck and hope for the best for him after he drops back off of the radar...if he plans to continue to primarily be a card counter, I don't think he'll be very active in that regard until that happens.
    kewlJ quits this forum and other gambling forums every six months.
    The private message system is the Devil.

  20. #380
    Monet,

    To clarify, it was when I made this post:

    Originally Posted by Myself
    Maybe he just wants to stop spending so much time on the forums, but can't figure out a way to make himself do that, unless he burns it down. I don't know. There's no question that he's completely obsessive when it comes to this forum stuff, regardless of what else is or isn't true.
    Then KewlJ PM'ed me. Basically, I think he was planning on not posting anything else, at that point, and thought that I was getting too close to figuring out what made the most sense. With that, he asked me not to post anything else along those lines, so I agreed not to...obviously, that doesn't matter now that he has posted substantially the same thing he told me.

    In short, I was eventually coming around to the conclusion that this whole, "I lied about everything," angle made no sense. I always maintained that some of the stuff he said he lied about made no sense to lie about.

    So, that's it for what I know about this. Everything else KewlJ said above.

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