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  1. #541
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I put these two posts, yours and the one of mine that you quoted, into this so called IQ "estimator".

    Yours received an above average of 105. Mine an above average of 102. Since you are obviously much smarter than I, why don't you tell me what conclusions you draw from that.

    Furthermore, I put posts from Mission146 and Mickeycrimm from the slavery thread. Mission received a 99 and mickey an 85. I am not sure why mickeys was so low, he probably said something that the biased "estimator" viewed as racist.

    I would put either Mission or mickey as smarter than I, especially gambling smarts, which is all I really care about on this forum.

    So, this is all a bunch of nonsense, started by Garnabby of all people that YOU are running with and choosing to judge people by.

    I don't use a spell check when I post. About half of my posts are done on my phone and my phone has an auto-correct feature that changes words to something not typed that make no sense. I also frequently capitalize something that shouldn't be or vice versa and insert comma (and overuse quotations). I see these things. Sometimes I will correct something, sometimes I let it go. I usually just don't care.

    But for fun I took one of my post, and cleaned up some of the grammar, misspellings, punctuation and according to the estimator, my IQ jumped 18 points. I am aware of these things, I just don't care. I am making a point on a gambling forum, not writing a term paper. You are using this nonsense to be judgmental and draw conclusions about people's intelligence.....biased opinions about people you have decided you don't like. Just stop. Go back to being a somewhat normal poster.
    I would never draw any conclusions from this because my IQ is high enough to realize that some bullshit website isn't going to actually measure IQ. It doesn't even matter that it is a bs website - I know you can't measure IQ from a writing sample. No, I'm not going to explain why I believe this but any sharp person on this forum would know better.

    There is a King of the Hill episode where Peggy takes an IQ test on the internet and it tells her she is a genius and she believes it. I forget the rest of it..

    You are BASICALLY Peggy from King of the Hill !

    Real brag - I drank with Mike Judge once. He had this chick macking on him really hard that I knew. I hit it off with him fairly well. She ended up dragging him away so she could get his attention. LOL. Had no idea who he was until about the third person walked up to him and shook his hand or said something to him.. then it was like oooh shit! You want to talk about all sorts of marginal characters Mike!? Well sit right down and let me commence....

    Regardless, if you want to be left alone then just talk about your blackjack and not things you CLEARLY have little clue about. None of this makes any sense.

    edit - I actually do believe you could estimate IQ in a vague sense off a writing sample but it requires writing of substance and a person with a higher IQ to interpret the ideas and such presented.
    Last edited by accountinquestion; 01-19-2022 at 04:48 PM.
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  2. #542
    Originally Posted by Garnabby View Post
    Originally Posted by unJon View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/earths-co...145843834.html

    Earth's core is rapidly cooling, study reveals.
    Is our planet becoming 'inactive'?

    Make up your Fucking Minds.
    The Earth's Temperature is rising on the surface and cooling at the core.
    Fuck Science.
    Fucking Scam.
    Monet, I posted in the smart money sports bets. Just wanted to make sure you saw.
    Schizophrenia at its finest.
    Even a paranoid can have enemies.

  3. #543
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    KJ, I am a bit disappointed in the quality of your trolls / flames.

    Hard to explain just how and why except they lack that certain "bite" which we forum ghouls so appreciate.

    Contrast your screeds with those of Rob Singer: his are breezy, dismissive, and definitive, albeit typically an attack.

    Yes, I know, you're a "nice guy" and it is tough to learn to post like a complete dick / asshole overnight but there's enough examples on this board for you to pick it up, assuming you're a quick study.
    What, Me Worry?

  4. #544
    Originally Posted by unJon View Post
    Even a paranoid can have enemies.
    Now I wonder that two paranoids who think the one is out to get the other become real enemies.

    In other news, it now appears that also facial features might give away intelligence, at least of men.

    Background

    The ability to accurately assess the intelligence of other persons finds its place in everyday social interaction and should have important evolutionary consequences.

    Methodology/Principal Findings

    We used static facial photographs of 40 men and 40 women to test the relationship between measured IQ, perceived intelligence, and facial shape. Both men and women were able to accurately evaluate the intelligence of men by viewing facial photographs. In addition to general intelligence, figural and fluid intelligence showed a significant relationship with perceived intelligence, but again, only in men. No relationship between perceived intelligence and IQ was found for women. We used geometric morphometrics to determine which facial traits are associated with the perception of intelligence, as well as with intelligence as measured by IQ testing. Faces that are perceived as highly intelligent are rather prolonged with a broader distance between the eyes, a larger nose, a slight upturn to the corners of the mouth, and a sharper, pointing, less rounded chin. By contrast, the perception of lower intelligence is associated with broader, more rounded faces with eyes closer to each other, a shorter nose, declining corners of the mouth, and a rounded and massive chin. By contrast, we found no correlation between morphological traits and real intelligence measured with IQ test, either in men or women.

    Conclusions

    These results suggest that a perceiver can accurately gauge the real intelligence of men, but not women, by viewing their faces in photographs; however, this estimation is possibly not based on facial shape. Our study revealed no relation between intelligence and either attractiveness or face shape.

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0081237
    But, why would, and how could, this be? I can understand how reading a lot can marginally or more increase fluid intelligence, and, so, the reverse hold.
    Last edited by Garnabby; 01-19-2022 at 06:04 PM.
    Every one /everyone knows it all. Yet, no thing /nothing is known by any one /anyone.

    Suckers think they are beating the house. It wins unless it lets you win, to give you an even worse beating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsa6ojQcYXQ

    Shut it down, Garnabby. ---> Anything, but a BS word.

    GFs pg. 455=178+277; sqrt(178X277=22+222^2)~222, as in https://discord.com/channels/4843422...04079147761715

    Also, 178+187=365. 277+277=555-1; 227+227=455-1.

  5. #545
    I'm going to try and not pick on Kewl but it just annoys me to see the sort of stuff he put out there. Just nonsense. I guess maybe I am being a bully.

    Fact is if you have a high IQ you're going to have life a lot easier. Look at Mickey Crimm and his life. He has very little formal education but he went into a library popped off some books and has basically written some primers on how to do machine stuff. He clearly has a fairly high IQ. People without a reasonably high IQ would have never been able to do that sort of thing. Yet he isn't "book smart" ..

    I read something recently where there was a study about people with high IQs in sales positions. IIRC it was posited that IQ wouldn't matter so much and it was more the social skills. It turned out that there was a huge correlation with IQ. Perhaps IQ mattered even more? (don't recall) Just the fluid intelligence/being able to think on one's feet are all an IQ thing. It isn't just figuring out puzzles on a test.

    Even testing the upper bounds of IQ is kinda a joke. You can put a time limit on it, but then that can trigger testing anxiety issue or something. You can give people unlimited time and then people who are willing to put a lot of effort into stuff have higher scores.

    It is a fascinating thing though. You just know there are people out there that understand things considerably beyond what you're even aware of....
    Love my forum fam. You group of misfits are truly the finest people and I'm glad to be a part of this internet experience.

  6. #546
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    KJ, I am a bit disappointed in the quality of your trolls / flames.

    Hard to explain just how and why except they lack that certain "bite" which we forum ghouls so appreciate.

    Contrast your screeds with those of Rob Singer: his are breezy, dismissive, and definitive, albeit typically an attack.

    Yes, I know, you're a "nice guy" and it is tough to learn to post like a complete dick / asshole overnight but there's enough examples on this board for you to pick it up, assuming you're a quick study.
    He's been evicerated from one forum to another. Imagine what his real life is like

  7. #547
    This is Barney

    The LID has a big brain besides being a world class Dice Influencer. In the 80s, he spent much of his time with the Captain studying derandomization of the dices in the air and hitting the table in the game of craps
    In the 90s, he spent much time at the MIT working on invisibility on a secret government project. In the early 2000s, he collaborated with his brother Festus and the late Max Planck to develop a time shifting device which enabled him to win much money at the game of craps and getting laid alot by casino chicks. However, the May 2020 tornadoes destroyed said device along with our goats and he now has to rely only on his dices tossing skills and his line of DI apparel to make a living.

  8. #548
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    He's been evicerated from one forum to another. Imagine what his real life is like
    I am quite sure you do image my life. You are obsessed with it. And knowing I am a real winning player, making a living off casinos, like you could only dream of, is exactly why you are so obsessed and so angry.

    Get over it grandpa. Change your diaper and move along.

  9. #549
    And by the way, this anger and bitterness towards me, while still somewhat new to me, isn't new at all to anyone that has been around you on forums is it? I have gone back and read some on this forum before I was even here. Your attacks aren't even new....just recycled.

    You have shown the exact same anger and bitterness towards numerous other APs and winning players for decades, ranging from mickeycrimm to arci to Redeitz to many, many others. You just can't stomach anyone who was or is able to win using real math and techniques.

    And God forbid anyone challenge your progression betting, stop limits, "special plays" nonsense and you doubled down on the nastiness and bitterness/hate.

    Just go away already, you nasty, old troll.

  10. #550
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    And by the way, this anger and bitterness towards me, while still somewhat new to me, isn't new at all to anyone that has been around you on forums is it? I have gone back and read some on this forum before I was even here. Your attacks aren't even new....just recycled.

    You have shown the exact same anger and bitterness towards numerous other APs and winning players for decades, ranging from mickeycrimm to arci to Redeitz to many, many others. You just can't stomach anyone who was or is able to win using real math and techniques.

    And God forbid anyone challenge your progression betting, stop limits, "special plays" nonsense and you doubled down on the nastiness and bitterness/hate.

    Just go away already, you nasty, old troll.
    Couldn't ease your P-A-I-N with one post, could'ya!

    Stop wasting time with me, asshat. Looks like you've got too many other losing battles going on simultaneously

  11. #551
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    KJ, I am a bit disappointed in the quality of your trolls / flames.

    Hard to explain just how and why except they lack that certain "bite" which we forum ghouls so appreciate.

    Contrast your screeds with those of Rob Singer: his are breezy, dismissive, and definitive, albeit typically an attack.

    Yes, I know, you're a "nice guy" and it is tough to learn to post like a complete dick / asshole overnight but there's enough examples on this board for you to pick it up, assuming you're a quick study.
    Kewl—-just go back and look at some of the singer vs. arci stuff. You will immediately improve your trolling.

  12. #552
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    KJ, I am a bit disappointed in the quality of your trolls / flames.

    Hard to explain just how and why except they lack that certain "bite" which we forum ghouls so appreciate.

    Contrast your screeds with those of Rob Singer: his are breezy, dismissive, and definitive, albeit typically an attack.

    Yes, I know, you're a "nice guy" and it is tough to learn to post like a complete dick / asshole overnight but there's enough examples on this board for you to pick it up, assuming you're a quick study.
    Kewl—-just go back and look at some of the singer vs. arci stuff. You will immediately improve your trolling.
    Singer vs Arci was excellent. Singer vs Mickey was the GOAT !

  13. #553
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    Kewl—-just go back and look at some of the singer vs. arci stuff. You will immediately improve your trolling.
    I don't want to improve my trolling regnis. The fact that Singer, engaged in this kind of trolling for years, even decades, and not only did forum owners (Alan before Druff), allow and enable it, to the point that it is now celebrated, gave rise to even more trolls like Mdawg using that exact playbook. Ridiculous claims that defy math and reality. Attack and destroy anyone that challenges these claims based on the math and reality. Trolls dominate nearly all gambling related forums. The forums that still police against trolls, "new" trolls pop up almost immediately after they get rid of one. Public gambling forums are infected beyond repair. Most legitimate AP's and even recreational players have gone to private forums. As someone who benefited greatly by these forums 12-15 years ago, that sickens me. But it is the new reality. We are a society (online) that just can't have anything nice or good, with a growing number of bitter people willing to tear anything good down.

    But I thank you for your post. It is eye opening. While everything about me always says to fight back against the bullies, as I have done all my life, we are deep in the sewers here. It is a fight that can't be won.

  14. #554
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I'm going to try and not pick on Kewl but it just annoys me to see the sort of stuff he put out there. Just nonsense. I guess maybe I am being a bully.

    Fact is if you have a high IQ you're going to have life a lot easier. Look at Mickey Crimm and his life. He has very little formal education but he went into a library popped off some books and has basically written some primers on how to do machine stuff. He clearly has a fairly high IQ. People without a reasonably high IQ would have never been able to do that sort of thing. Yet he isn't "book smart" ..

    I read something recently where there was a study about people with high IQs in sales positions. IIRC it was posited that IQ wouldn't matter so much and it was more the social skills. It turned out that there was a huge correlation with IQ. Perhaps IQ mattered even more? (don't recall) Just the fluid intelligence/being able to think on one's feet are all an IQ thing. It isn't just figuring out puzzles on a test.

    Even testing the upper bounds of IQ is kinda a joke. You can put a time limit on it, but then that can trigger testing anxiety issue or something. You can give people unlimited time and then people who are willing to put a lot of effort into stuff have higher scores.

    It is a fascinating thing though. You just know there are people out there that understand things considerably beyond what you're even aware of....
    I can definitely believe that with sales positions, but I think one would do best to have that rare combination of High IQ and rock solid social skills. As you mentioned, you have to be able to think on your feet---which involves getting a quick read on your mark...excuse me, customer...and figuring out what you need to say to manipulate them...excuse me...make clear the features and benefits of the product.

    It's so much easier, in my opinion, with telemarketing because you don't have to regulate anything about your body language or facial expressions; it's all voice control, which is easy, if that's the only thing you have to focus on. The marks, I mean, customers, can often tell you're faking it if they can see your eyes.

    So, I think the best salesperson has a high IQ, rock solid social skills and is also a sociopath. Being a sociopath would be a huge advantage because they could actually convince the customers that they care about their well-being and aren't just trying to get a commission. They would also tend (in my observations) to be better at warming the customers up with small talk, which I was absolutely never good at. Nothing beyond, "How are you today?", for me, when it comes to in-person sales, just right to business. I could do the small talk thing in telemarketing because, again, you only have to control your voice. With commissions, you could actually make pretty decent money (especially relative to the cost of living in that area) once upon a time if you were good at it.

    Small talk was also easy in telemarketing because people LOVE talking about the weather. I never started the sales day without taking a hard look at the national weather map.
    Last edited by Mission146; 01-20-2022 at 05:37 AM.

  15. #555
    It's very clear that you're a weak and quite possibly a perpetually sickly person kew. You're also the type we used to pull down their pants and shove the little whiny-ass twits into the girl's locker room in high school. Oh what fun!

    What's not very clear is your newest declaration that you are now going to only be a troll. Here, regnis gave you some expert, AP-level direction and you summarily dismissed it. "Waaa....waaa....I don't WANT to be a better troll!"

    Man up, girly boy. Show us what makes your failing, coddled generation tick! Give us some more of that "I hate Woodstock" and "Baby Boomers suck!" vitriol!!

    I'll give you a few moments to yourself to pout now, as others continue tallying all the lies you've spewed about yourself and others.

  16. #556
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    It's very clear that you're a weak and quite possibly a perpetually sickly person kew. You're also the type we used to pull down their pants and shove the little whiny-ass twits into the girl's locker room in high school. Oh what fun!

    What's not very clear is your newest declaration that you are now going to only be a troll. Here, regnis gave you some expert, AP-level direction and you summarily dismissed it. "Waaa....waaa....I don't WANT to be a better troll!"

    Man up, girly boy. Show us what makes your failing, coddled generation tick! Give us some more of that "I hate Woodstock" and "Baby Boomers suck!" vitriol!!

    I'll give you a few moments to yourself to pout now, as others continue tallying all the lies you've spewed about yourself and others.
    I wish someone had done that to me; I'd have left the locker room with at least five phone numbers.

  17. #557
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    Kewl—-just go back and look at some of the singer vs. arci stuff. You will immediately improve your trolling.
    I don't want to improve my trolling regnis. The fact that Singer, engaged in this kind of trolling for years, even decades, and not only did forum owners (Alan before Druff), allow and enable it, to the point that it is now celebrated, gave rise to even more trolls like Mdawg using that exact playbook. Ridiculous claims that defy math and reality. Attack and destroy anyone that challenges these claims based on the math and reality. Trolls dominate nearly all gambling related forums. The forums that still police against trolls, "new" trolls pop up almost immediately after they get rid of one. Public gambling forums are infected beyond repair. Most legitimate AP's and even recreational players have gone to private forums. As someone who benefited greatly by these forums 12-15 years ago, that sickens me. But it is the new reality. We are a society (online) that just can't have anything nice or good, with a growing number of bitter people willing to tear anything good down.

    But I thank you for your post. It is eye opening. While everything about me always says to fight back against the bullies, as I have done all my life, we are deep in the sewers here. It is a fight that can't be won.
    ---> Estimated IQ: 89 (average)

    Too long; didn't read. Ha.
    Every one /everyone knows it all. Yet, no thing /nothing is known by any one /anyone.

    Suckers think they are beating the house. It wins unless it lets you win, to give you an even worse beating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsa6ojQcYXQ

    Shut it down, Garnabby. ---> Anything, but a BS word.

    GFs pg. 455=178+277; sqrt(178X277=22+222^2)~222, as in https://discord.com/channels/4843422...04079147761715

    Also, 178+187=365. 277+277=555-1; 227+227=455-1.

  18. #558
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I'm going to try and not pick on Kewl but it just annoys me to see the sort of stuff he put out there. Just nonsense. I guess maybe I am being a bully.

    Fact is if you have a high IQ you're going to have life a lot easier. Look at Mickey Crimm and his life. He has very little formal education but he went into a library popped off some books and has basically written some primers on how to do machine stuff. He clearly has a fairly high IQ. People without a reasonably high IQ would have never been able to do that sort of thing. Yet he isn't "book smart" ..

    I read something recently where there was a study about people with high IQs in sales positions. IIRC it was posited that IQ wouldn't matter so much and it was more the social skills. It turned out that there was a huge correlation with IQ. Perhaps IQ mattered even more? (don't recall) Just the fluid intelligence/being able to think on one's feet are all an IQ thing. It isn't just figuring out puzzles on a test.

    Even testing the upper bounds of IQ is kinda a joke. You can put a time limit on it, but then that can trigger testing anxiety issue or something. You can give people unlimited time and then people who are willing to put a lot of effort into stuff have higher scores.

    It is a fascinating thing though. You just know there are people out there that understand things considerably beyond what you're even aware of....
    I can definitely believe that with sales positions, but I think one would do best to have that rare combination of High IQ and rock solid social skills. As you mentioned, you have to be able to think on your feet---which involves getting a quick read on your mark...excuse me, customer...and figuring out what you need to say to manipulate them...excuse me...make clear the features and benefits of the product.

    It's so much easier, in my opinion, with telemarketing because you don't have to regulate anything about your body language or facial expressions; it's all voice control, which is easy, if that's the only thing you have to focus on. The marks, I mean, customers, can often tell you're faking it if they can see your eyes.

    So, I think the best salesperson has a high IQ, rock solid social skills and is also a sociopath. Being a sociopath would be a huge advantage because they could actually convince the customers that they care about their well-being and aren't just trying to get a commission. They would also tend (in my observations) to be better at warming the customers up with small talk, which I was absolutely never good at. Nothing beyond, "How are you today?", for me, when it comes to in-person sales, just right to business. I could do the small talk thing in telemarketing because, again, you only have to control your voice. With commissions, you could actually make pretty decent money (especially relative to the cost of living in that area) once upon a time if you were good at it.

    Small talk was also easy in telemarketing because people LOVE talking about the weather. I never started the sales day without taking a hard look at the national weather map.
    I've never done sales. It is also something you would improve at over time. I have wondered before would I have been any good? THere are also many different types of scenarios you do sales.

    Anyway my whole point here is just that people who tend to not have a high IQ want to write off generalized intelligence as something one can only use to solve test problems. That isn't anywhere near true. High intelligence really is a blessing in many ways but can also be a curse. Really smart people tend to not be as happy and have depression issues. Retards seem to tend to lie to themselves throughout their lives about whatever. Or maybe don't see the truth to begin with?

    Top of AP world should be no different. People are never going to talk about really good plays anyway but the smartest amongst us will tend to have insight but who knows if they even post. I have a pretty high IQ but I'm also so incredibly undisciplined nothing useful has ever become of it. shrug
    Love my forum fam. You group of misfits are truly the finest people and I'm glad to be a part of this internet experience.

  19. #559
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    ...

    Why do so many people claim to have outrageously high IQs?

    Rhonda Hohertz, Master's Degree in Psychology, Licensed psychotherapist

    Answered Mar 20, 2017

    An IQ of 160 puts a person in the 99.9968313965% ranking of intelligence and the rarity is 1 in 31,560 people. As you might guess, there are very few people with an IQ of 160. To answer your question as to why so many people claim to have outrageously high IQ scores, I blame that on two factors. Online IQ tests are all in error and mean nothing. They typically overrate everyone’s score and are not valid or reliable. Very few people have ever had an actual standardized IQ test administered by a mental health clinician which would give their true IQ score. The second factor is, people just state their IQ score without ever taking a test and think they are estimating their actual IQ score. Remember, 68% of everyone has an IQ in the normal range (85–115). Who is going to state they are average?

    https://www.quora.com/Why-do-so-many...ously-high-IQs
    Every one /everyone knows it all. Yet, no thing /nothing is known by any one /anyone.

    Suckers think they are beating the house. It wins unless it lets you win, to give you an even worse beating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsa6ojQcYXQ

    Shut it down, Garnabby. ---> Anything, but a BS word.

    GFs pg. 455=178+277; sqrt(178X277=22+222^2)~222, as in https://discord.com/channels/4843422...04079147761715

    Also, 178+187=365. 277+277=555-1; 227+227=455-1.

  20. #560
    Originally Posted by Garnabby View Post
    .
    ..
    ...

    Why do so many people claim to have outrageously high IQs?

    Rhonda Hohertz, Master's Degree in Psychology, Licensed psychotherapist

    Answered Mar 20, 2017

    An IQ of 160 puts a person in the 99.9968313965% ranking of intelligence and the rarity is 1 in 31,560 people. As you might guess, there are very few people with an IQ of 160. To answer your question as to why so many people claim to have outrageously high IQ scores, I blame that on two factors. Online IQ tests are all in error and mean nothing. They typically overrate everyone’s score and are not valid or reliable. Very few people have ever had an actual standardized IQ test administered by a mental health clinician which would give their true IQ score. The second factor is, people just state their IQ score without ever taking a test and think they are estimating their actual IQ score. Remember, 68% of everyone has an IQ in the normal range (85–115). Who is going to state they are average?

    https://www.quora.com/Why-do-so-many...ously-high-IQs
    This place should be crawling with people who have IQs north of 140. Or maybe not this place exactly, but the AP world. The AP thing attracts people with high IQs so it shouldn't be hard to believe. I am not so sure about a lot of the regular posters on here though.

    I suspect many guys who aren't posting about COVID, "jabs", or Kewl/Rob have genius IQs on here.
    Love my forum fam. You group of misfits are truly the finest people and I'm glad to be a part of this internet experience.

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