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  1. #41
    If you dig into this game it is similar to playing a martingale. Have fun.....RIP
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  2. #42
    Caught another major play today. This is getting to easy. It came off early and I caught the Maxi on the wheel spin:
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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  3. #43
    I think this game is going to break a lot of my local competition. One of my locals has a bunch of these machines and they sit and pound away at any one away, even with most of the board covered with fifty cent coins.

  4. #44
    Originally Posted by D1ce View Post
    I think this game is going to break a lot of my local competition. One of my locals has a bunch of these machines and they sit and pound away at any one away, even with most of the board covered with fifty cent coins.
    No money on the board means no play to me. That's the one thing they have right over at WoV. But while they are trying to analyze how much money needs to be on the board I'm crushing it by looking for the Maxi and Major meters, whether they are at reset or not. They didn't know that finding maxi and major meters was a big part of the game until I made it public. The Wiz criticized them for posting on WoV what I said here but picked the new found information up and ran with it.

    Of my last dozen plays 10 of them have been on Major or Maxi meters compared to just 2 that have come from a full board with lots of money buildup.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 03-04-2022 at 05:26 AM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  5. #45
    There is an exception I make to only playing positive situations. That is when I don't know and can't readily determine if the game is positive or negative without a sample space. So I'm willing to play in the unknown to collect the stats. I'm willing to pay for the information.

    I've been playing Maxi's that are uncoordinated with the free space. Six plays so far. The results:

    1. -8
    2. +59
    3. +19
    4. -135
    5. +47
    6. -21

    The Maxi at reset represents 67 units (rounded).

    So far I'm stuck 39 units.

    On plays 2 and 3 I finished ahead even though I didn't hit the Maxi.

    On play #4 I went deep, about 280 units to bingo. At one point there were a dozen open spaces with no one-offs and it wouldn't fill in a square for over 100 spins.

    I hit the Maxi on just one play, #5.

    This is to small a sample space to draw any hard conclusions. But as the sample space grows a picture of whether the play is profitable or not will be drawn.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  6. #46
    Found this one tonight. $7.50 a spin and made money but the $227on the bonus helped. Thinking the previous player went broke and walked away. That said I still question if the game is “gaffed” based on the time it takes to get the last spot. Certainly Mick and others have it down to a better science but I wonder if anyone has this game down exactly.

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  7. #47
    I don’t have a ton of data to back it up but I honestly don’t think that was a good play at 7.50. Could be wrong though.

  8. #48
    Originally Posted by D1ce View Post
    I don’t have a ton of data to back it up but I honestly don’t think that was a good play at 7.50. Could be wrong though.
    It was a little light for me too, only 46 units on the board. For now, I like the Wiz's 70 unit minimum.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  9. #49
    I was looking at the 3 options needing 1 hit but I’m sure you guys are correct. Probably lucky to get out of it making money. What I am seeing is most of the machines at reset. Seems people are playing them through until a hit and walking away.

  10. #50
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    I was looking at the 3 options needing 1 hit but I’m sure you guys are correct. Probably lucky to get out of it making money. What I am seeing is most of the machines at reset. Seems people are playing them through until a hit and walking away.

    Well it is BINGO and so it is kinda obvious there is an objective and that is to get BINGO.

    My guess is almost all plays will be from people going bust mid-cycle or the initial board configuration.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  11. #51
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    I was looking at the 3 options needing 1 hit but I’m sure you guys are correct. Probably lucky to get out of it making money. What I am seeing is most of the machines at reset. Seems people are playing them through until a hit and walking away.
    In my neighborhood it pays to check every bet level, even tho they are at reset, to find maxi or major plays. You have to put money in the machine to do it but even a one dollar bill will let you see all the bet levels.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #52
    So far after getting a Bingo I have had 3 MAJORS tossed on the board by Mr. Cashman to start the next game. I have hit 2 of them. The one I didn't Mr. Cashman popped up and tossed a low figure coin on a space that game me a small valued Bingo.

    I have also had Mr. Cashman pop up and give me all prizes on the board 3 times so far as well.

    Mr. Cashman is a Bitch-Goddess... He gives and he takes.

    I don't think this game is rocket science. Is there a lot of value on the board for the bet level? If yes then go for it if you have plenty of cash to power through a nightmare scenario.

    People also seem to forget that multiple Bingos are possible. Mickey posted his pic of a game that game him 5 bingos. The opportunity at the multiple bigos gives the opportunity of the large payout squares being in multiple Bingos. And some squares are included in Bingo possibilities than others.

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    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    I was looking at the 3 options needing 1 hit but I’m sure you guys are correct.
    Someone posted earlier that the odds are deceptive. Here's how the wiz described it:

    Said person claims that if the player is one-away at least one way, then the probability of getting a bingo on any given spin is about 1.28%. He claims this probability does not increase if the player is cased (one-away) multiple ways.
    That's 78 spins on average. Then there's this:

    Originally Posted by NVF View Post
    What is the average number of spins to go from reset to bingo? I'm looking at the neighborhood of 115.
    If confirmed, then your odds of bingoing never improve very substantially. I think Mickey nailed it in post #1:

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    To me it's not the number of squares that have been covered. It's the amount of money that's in those squares.

  14. #54
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    I was looking at the 3 options needing 1 hit but I’m sure you guys are correct. Probably lucky to get out of it making money. What I am seeing is most of the machines at reset. Seems people are playing them through until a hit and walking away.
    In my neighborhood it pays to check every bet level, even tho they are at reset, to find maxi or major plays. You have to put money in the machine to do it but even a one dollar bill will let you see all the bet levels.
    I’ve noticed 2 versions currently out there, including in the same casino.

    1 is the way you described and you have to put cash in to see what is there. The other has a digital screen that shows how many spots are already filled per level. However you still have to go through each to see what the numbers are in the actual spots.

  15. #55
    By the way, good to see some new posters in this thread, and as always Thanks to those who are adding content to help others.

    Just shows it doesn’t always have to be a troll fest on here.

  16. #56
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    I was looking at the 3 options needing 1 hit but I’m sure you guys are correct. Probably lucky to get out of it making money. What I am seeing is most of the machines at reset. Seems people are playing them through until a hit and walking away.
    In my neighborhood it pays to check every bet level, even tho they are at reset, to find maxi or major plays. You have to put money in the machine to do it but even a one dollar bill will let you see all the bet levels.
    I’ve noticed 2 versions currently out there, including in the same casino.

    1 is the way you described and you have to put cash in to see what is there. The other has a digital screen that shows how many spots are already filled per level. However you still have to go through each to see what the numbers are in the actual spots.
    You can wait for the machine to go into "Demo Mode" and it will show all of the boards that way as well.

  17. #57
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    In my neighborhood it pays to check every bet level, even tho they are at reset, to find maxi or major plays. You have to put money in the machine to do it but even a one dollar bill will let you see all the bet levels.
    I’ve noticed 2 versions currently out there, including in the same casino.

    1 is the way you described and you have to put cash in to see what is there. The other has a digital screen that shows how many spots are already filled per level. However you still have to go through each to see what the numbers are in the actual spots.
    You can wait for the machine to go into "Demo Mode" and it will show all of the boards that way as well.
    Thanks JB, didn’t know the promo screen was in conjunction with actual. Definitely a time saver.

  18. #58
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    By the way, good to see some new posters in this thread, and as always Thanks to those who are adding content to help others.

    Just shows it doesn’t always have to be a troll fest on here.
    There may well be more than one or two ways to skin this thing. But with all the electronic ways of attacking the game, it reminds me of the days I spent at the VP machines looking for any available back door that would be positive for the player. I haven't thought of this before, but there certainly may be something to these myriad of slot machines that might be as exploitable as the VP double up bug was. And we already know the feds won't prosecute simple button pushers and bill inserters.

  19. #59
    Originally Posted by LuckAsAnArt View Post
    So far after getting a Bingo I have had 3 MAJORS tossed on the board by Mr. Cashman to start the next game. I have hit 2 of them. The one I didn't Mr. Cashman popped up and tossed a low figure coin on a space that game me a small valued Bingo.

    I have also had Mr. Cashman pop up and give me all prizes on the board 3 times so far as well.

    Mr. Cashman is a Bitch-Goddess... He gives and he takes.

    I don't think this game is rocket science. Is there a lot of value on the board for the bet level? If yes then go for it if you have plenty of cash to power through a nightmare scenario.

    People also seem to forget that multiple Bingos are possible. Mickey posted his pic of a game that game him 5 bingos. The opportunity at the multiple bigos gives the opportunity of the large payout squares being in multiple Bingos. And some squares are included in Bingo possibilities than others.
    Here's the pic. There were three balls that came out at the same time and landed in empty squares to give me the five bingo's. Most of the pay came from the Major where the meter was at $530 plus the $309 in the square.

    Yesterday I had two balls come out at the same time to land in a two-away to make a bingo.
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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  20. #60
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by LuckAsAnArt View Post
    So far after getting a Bingo I have had 3 MAJORS tossed on the board by Mr. Cashman to start the next game. I have hit 2 of them. The one I didn't Mr. Cashman popped up and tossed a low figure coin on a space that game me a small valued Bingo.

    I have also had Mr. Cashman pop up and give me all prizes on the board 3 times so far as well.

    Mr. Cashman is a Bitch-Goddess... He gives and he takes.

    I don't think this game is rocket science. Is there a lot of value on the board for the bet level? If yes then go for it if you have plenty of cash to power through a nightmare scenario.

    People also seem to forget that multiple Bingos are possible. Mickey posted his pic of a game that game him 5 bingos. The opportunity at the multiple bigos gives the opportunity of the large payout squares being in multiple Bingos. And some squares are included in Bingo possibilities than others.
    Here's the pic. There were three balls that came out at the same time and landed in empty squares to give me the five bingo's. Most of the pay came from the Major where the meter was at $530 plus the $309 in the square.

    Yesterday I had two balls come out at the same time to land in a two-away to make a bingo.
    I love how that one ducked the hand-pay.

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