Circa Superbowl viewing party

[mcap]

Slobby, I’ve had resort credits of roughly 75% of free play offer the entire time across different offer levels (cuz didn’t continue play given ass offers) so it’s difficult to believe you didn’t with those offers unless you were simply unaware with it.

We’ll agree on one thing….that burger joint is ass. Saginaw’s and 8 east are good albeit overpriced but who cares if paying with resort credits.

[Rob.Singer]

Pretty simple stuff. I've been a fairly heavy player there in their HL room where I play up to $50 machines. I've also lost overall there.

Congratulations on being a higher limit, losing player and being comped accordingly. The casinos were built off such players.


Just out of curiosity, are the "special" even less optimal plays not so special at Circa? Or maybe the newer machines are unable to teleport to you when they are hot or "due"?

Just like anyone who plays recreationally, you don't win if you don't get lucky.

[Rob.Singer]

They blackout freeplay dates, not food. 11th-14th were blackout DATES. Obviously you have little or no knowledge of the way their offers are structured and are just searching for any way he could plausibly be telling the truth rather than the more likely explanation.

It’s likely that he got an offer for three nights with free play on zero of the days. But you’re just trying to be a cunt, you cunt.

In any scenario, slobby could just post the mailer with personal identifying details omitted if he wanted. Maybe we will get to see him surprise us with his photoshop skills, who knows.

Everybody's an expert when it comes to apparent envy or whatever it is. The offer said $300 freeplay not $150/day for 2 days, and not $200. There was no blackout day listed for the freeplay or resort credit. Pretty simple stuff. I've been a fairly heavy player there in their HL room where I play up to $50 machines. I've also lost overall there. I hold a Legend card which I was required to play for because I have no competing top level card anywhere else. I've been receiving the same monthly offer for the past 5 months. This is the first that came with the resort credit. Their monthly offers come in the form of a foldable brown card, with two well-dressed young gals on the front of every one. The Super Bowl offer was in addition to these. I also get offers to the D where I haven't played. I usually stay in a suite facing the pool complex and they have two rooms and 3 TV's of at least 60". My host is Michelle Gye. I've both valet parked ($15 or $7.50 with the Legend card-, and comped if you play enough) and used Garage Mahal ($25 or free with either of the top two tier cards). Legends Club on the 66th floor has very expensive drinks and plays Roaring '20's bee-bop on Thursday nights. Look down outside from any window to the right side of the bar and you will see the red-lit Plaza sign. Barry's has great food and even better ambiance, but I disagree--it is an expensive place. I'm not impressed with Mega's or any of their other bar's bottle-juggling bartenders. Their burger joint is irritating in the way it operates. And Saginaw's has the best no-garlic dill pickles around.

Now see if you can measure up.

Put up pics. Everyone knows you type up a good tale. Just because you're swimming in phoney details doesn't mean you've fooled most of us. I'd grade this a solid "A-" though.

And not more handwritten bullshit on some half-wadded up paper.

You really haven't been following closely but you alluded to a part of it earlier. Posting pictures of jackpots, W2G's, real out-of-state registration docs for an RV, verifiable RV Trader ads, passports proving I've been just about everywhere on earth a dozen times, etc. etc. etc. have either been claimed to be fabricated or photoshopped--all by a guy completely uninterested in and incapable of the technology or ability to be competent in either of those things. So there will be no more pictures for jealous people to make false claims about.

[MisterV]

So there will be no more pictures for jealous people to make false claims about.

So stop making those false claims.

That one about selling the phantom Newell to an Israeli was a doozy.

[kewlJ]

Pretty simple stuff. I've been a fairly heavy player there in their HL room where I play up to $50 machines. I've also lost overall there.

Congratulations on being a higher limit, losing player and being comped accordingly. The casinos were built off such players.


Just out of curiosity, are the "special" even less optimal plays not so special at Circa? Or maybe the newer machines are unable to teleport to you when they are hot or "due"?

Just like anyone who plays recreationally, you don't win if you don't get lucky.

Wait a minute fella. Prior to stealing the double up bug claim, you spent...I don't know 15 years claiming you had a fool proof method that guaranteed short-term wins that defied expectation and all you had to do was repeat those short-term wins over and over and over.

Now all of the sudden, it is about if you happen to get lucky? Caught in your own bullshit yet again.

Now let's tell what really happened. Your Wife's father passed away in the last year or so and you inherited some money. You took that money and blew it at casinos during your summer trip between your kids houses. In return for however much you lost at Circa playing $50 machines, you got an offer to the superbowl viewing party and $300 in freeplay. Shrewd!

Most Vegas players got that same offer just as part of their regular coin-in amounts. And by the way, in addition to yesterday (superbowl), today, Feb14 was also a free play blackout day. I guess for Valantines Day.

I guess you score a few points for honesty in that you said you lost as opposed to some other -EV player that wins, wins, wins, but your offer really wasn't anything special.

[MaxPen]

Everybody's an expert when it comes to apparent envy or whatever it is. The offer said $300 freeplay not $150/day for 2 days, and not $200. There was no blackout day listed for the freeplay or resort credit. Pretty simple stuff. I've been a fairly heavy player there in their HL room where I play up to $50 machines. I've also lost overall there. I hold a Legend card which I was required to play for because I have no competing top level card anywhere else. I've been receiving the same monthly offer for the past 5 months. This is the first that came with the resort credit. Their monthly offers come in the form of a foldable brown card, with two well-dressed young gals on the front of every one. The Super Bowl offer was in addition to these. I also get offers to the D where I haven't played. I usually stay in a suite facing the pool complex and they have two rooms and 3 TV's of at least 60". My host is Michelle Gye. I've both valet parked ($15 or $7.50 with the Legend card-, and comped if you play enough) and used Garage Mahal ($25 or free with either of the top two tier cards). Legends Club on the 66th floor has very expensive drinks and plays Roaring '20's bee-bop on Thursday nights. Look down outside from any window to the right side of the bar and you will see the red-lit Plaza sign. Barry's has great food and even better ambiance, but I disagree--it is an expensive place. I'm not impressed with Mega's or any of their other bar's bottle-juggling bartenders. Their burger joint is irritating in the way it operates. And Saginaw's has the best no-garlic dill pickles around.

Now see if you can measure up.

Put up pics. Everyone knows you type up a good tale. Just because you're swimming in phoney details doesn't mean you've fooled most of us. I'd grade this a solid "A-" though.

And not more handwritten bullshit on some half-wadded up paper.

You really haven't been following closely but you alluded to a part of it earlier. Posting pictures of jackpots, W2G's, real out-of-state registration docs for an RV, verifiable RV Trader ads, passports proving I've been just about everywhere on earth a dozen times, etc. etc. etc. have either been claimed to be fabricated or photoshopped--all by a guy completely uninterested in and incapable of the technology or ability to be competent in either of those things. So there will be no more pictures for jealous people to make false claims about.

#NOVELTYpassport

[Advantageplay]

Here are there offers, there max is 200. Doubtful they give 300 for super bowl, my card is tripped a lot now but doubtful I get 75 normal and not a penny in freeplay for the super bowl, especially when there are blackouts to begin with. Definitely not believing the rob story now, also Stevens properties notoriously give very little .

[coach belly]

Here are there offers

Why would that apply to Singer? There are no freeplay offers for Circa in that screenshot.

[Advantageplay]

Here are there offers

Why would that apply to Singer? There are no freeplay offers for Circa in that screenshot.

Simply goes to show you that you don’t know much about specific casinos and their structure , so don’t bother chiming in
With the above pic. ——- iykyk

[Rob.Singer]

Here are there offers

Why would that apply to Singer? There are no freeplay offers for Circa in that screenshot.

Simply goes to show you that you don’t know much about specific casinos and their structure , so don’t bother chiming in
With the above pic. ——- iykyk

And this goes to show that whomever that offer was for doesn't play much. $55 or $75 in freeplay? $55 in food & beverage comps (not even labeled "resort credit)? No casino host identified? Multiple monthly freeplay blackout dates? Instructions to call an 800 no. for the booking?? The "choice" to stay at any of their three properties?Wowsers!!

No wonder you "high rollers" get humiliated when you hear about someone who gets real offers and who puts in the play to get them. On every offer I receive I'm instructed to text my host's cell to set up my visit, whether I want the $300 (which for my play level I consider very low) slot play or table play, and if I'd like a free airport pickup. Never any freeplay blackout dates. I would throw that offer in the trash if I ever got one like that. And I would never even consider staying at D or GG when Circa is there.

You may pontificate your casino knowledge on various forums, but what you're doing here has to be really embarrassing for you (and anyone who wanted to support your false claims about the offers I receive).

[Rob.Singer]

Here's something else you won't be thrilled about: my Circa SB offer, now that I'm remembering more about it, was for the party out at that huge screen and not the one inside. It also wasn't crammed into several monthly offers like the one we see above. It came inside an oversized envelope and was for the Super Bowl only.

[Advantageplay]

Ok here another example on gfs card. You make up a lot of stories it seems. All I asked was for a picture which you can’t seem to provide

[coach belly]

With the above pic. ——- iykyk

That right there is a smokescreen answer.

I don't see any freeplay offers for Circa in your pic below either.

[Advantageplay]

As I said before. You either understand the the stevens marketing group of casinos or you don’t. Clearly you don’t

[kewlJ]

And this goes to show that whomever that offer was for doesn't play much. $55 or $75 in freeplay? $55 in food & beverage comps (not even labeled "resort credit)? No casino host identified? Multiple monthly freeplay blackout dates? Instructions to call an 800 no. for the booking?? The "choice" to stay at any of their three properties?Wowsers!!

No wonder you "high rollers" get humiliated when you hear about someone who gets real offers and who puts in the play to get them. On every offer I receive I'm instructed to text my host's cell to set up my visit, whether I want the $300 (which for my play level I consider very low) slot play or table play, and if I'd like a free airport pickup. Never any freeplay blackout dates. I would throw that offer in the trash if I ever got one like that. And I would never even consider staying at D or GG when Circa is there.

You may pontificate your casino knowledge on various forums, but what you're doing here has to be really embarrassing for you (and anyone who wanted to support your false claims about the offers I receive).

Rob has concluded that his one time $300 free play off has more value that a local player who receives $175 free play weekly for 4 or 5 weeks of the month. (The way the Steven's properties do it is weekly for 2 months at a time, which is 9 weeks, not even 8).

Furthermore because Steven's properties cap their offers, the optimal return is not that top capped amount. It is almost any amount below that. Let me see if I can explain so that even Rob understands.

Player A plays x amount of coin in and receives lets say $150 free play a week for 9 weeks ($1350 free play total for his play)

Player B plays 5x (5 times as much) coin in and received $300 free play a week for 9 weeks ($2700 total free play for his play)

Which is the better return?

Now add in that for out-of-towners, Steven's properties, like many, offer a one time amount of that capped amount and the disparage grows even far greater. Sure they throw in free rooms (even suites) and free food for the out of towners, but that has no real practical value.

What has happened here is Rob has read too many Mdog fantasies and now desires to portray himself in the higher roller crowd getting whatever capped amount he is putting excessive coin-in to get. That capped amount is probably the worst return. The object is to figure out just what minimum coin in is necessary to get the optimal return for that amount in terms of percentages. There is an exact optimal amount, and it is far below whatever is necessary for the capped amount.

Part of me is a little surprised Rob doesn't get this, but the other part of me, not surprised at all. I really don't think Rob understands very much about advantage play based on years of comments and interviews. In this case he actually is doing exactly what the casino wants, very high coin in for reduced capped amount of free play, and then he is bragging about it.

[kewlJ]

As I said before. You either understand the the stevens marketing group of casinos or you don’t.

This!!!

[MisterV]

Rob has concluded that his one time $300 free play off has more value that a local player who receives $175 free play weekly for 4 or 5 weeks of the month.

It's that "new math" you sometimes hear about.

You know, the math where myopic visions of dashed hopes and dreams take the place of integers.

[kewlJ]

Rob has concluded that his one time $300 free play off has more value that a local player who receives $175 free play weekly for 4 or 5 weeks of the month.

It's that "new math" you sometimes hear about.

You know, the math where myopic visions of dashed hopes and dreams take the place of integers.

EVERY SINGLE ONE of these guys that has some system, method or strategy to win that defies math, mocks the math and those of us that live by it.

Most of these players are playing some sort of progression. A few throw in twists like "special plays" (Rob), hot and cold machines teleporting that information (again Rob), or betting into a hot streak (Mdog), but it is all baloney. It is all twilight zone stuff that has been disproven a million times and yet they persist with their fantasy claims.

The part I always have trouble with is whether they are lying to us or lying to themselves. But it doesn't really matter. In my opinion on any legit gambling forum, people that claim this crap should not only be called out repeatedly, but their claims which fail to clear the very low bar of mathematics, should come with some kind of disclaimer, or be moved to a "betting system or voodoo section" and hidden from regular view, or on Norm's forum he highlights such voodoo claims with a yellow background. Something to distinguish that the claims and people making them, are in some sort of alternative reality.

[coach belly]

You either understand the the stevens marketing group of casinos or you don’t.

That's another corny answer.

You seem to be implying something, but won't post it
because you are too insecure about being proven wrong.

As a result, you haven't proven Rob wrong,
which is your only mission in this thread.

That means you're impotent...man up, put up or shut up.

[Advantageplay]

You add. Nothing to the forum,
Never had , never will, you just try and bully anyone and provoke. He made a statement he can’t back it up. Anyone that plays at stevens properties knows that’s not how his mail and marketing system works. Plain and simple. . No need to go any further as I said. Iykyk