Objective proof?

[Cerveza Fria]

Loose Deuces. Boyd I know has them.

Here's the old 101.6 % paytable (photo courtesy of Wizard of Odds) on this extremely volatile variant (the EV is all locked up in the ducks of course). I never played it at the Peppermill in Reno, but I was told they had it at one point:


edit:Triple Deuces returned 3000 coins for the ducks with 5 coins wagered but the full pay EV of the game as a whole was lower than Loose Deuces.

You didn't have to put that up. Cerveza thought I photoshopped the picture, and now he feels just ad badly as he does when he claimed I somehow forced my way into taking "someone else's $160k jackpot".

No, I never claimed it was photoshopped. I legitimately have never seen that pay table on the different Deuces varieties that I have played. I’ve heard of Loose Deuces, but have never seen it before.

And for that $160k jackpot, your bullshit excuse for why it wasn’t taken straight on only encourages doubt. You can erase all doubt by showing the W-2 g. Just saying.

[Rob.Singer]

I pose the question about the Newell cuz years ago I dated a broad whose pop operate the rv-dealership and always thought it would be sweet to own one and just drive around on the whims from places to place, hey hey.

Too big to drive comfortably especially towing a car. Lots of power and torque. Piss poor fuel mileage. Extremely luxurious when parked in an RV park or boondocking. Total overkill in every sense of the word. A true money pit.

[accountinquestion]

I haven't read anything on this thread since what I posted yesterday. And I won't, after reading Alan's thread.

It's obvious max, kew, and likely others for some reason wish I were broke. Max even goes so far as to claim he knows "other successful career people who are married, have children, but went broke gambling". The problem with that comparative assertion is, why would a woman, who has had her own long career as an engineer in an Aerospace company and has her own 7-figure retirement account, stay with such a "loser of millions" like me?

What is your clever response to that max....kew?? And if I'm supposedly "living off my children" then why would they bother supporting such a bum like me? Go ahead--you may answer!

OK max, I'll set a date for the fall in LV where I will show you my original Nevada W2G for the $160,000 win. The reason I'll come to you is because I want to eliminate the excuse of you not showing up due to "bad travel weather" or "high gas prices" or "my wife won't let me go". We'll BOTH bring $100,000 and you can pick the $100 VP machine that we will each play our hundred grand thru once. That will add to my credibility and help yours. The difference is, if I hit no winners at all and lost the entire $100k, it wouldn't bother me in the least.

Go ahead--start rounding up your team member backers.

I don't think anyone has said you totally live off your children. It is a well known fact that they let you park your RV (not a Newell) in front of their house. You use their basement for your office/zoom calls. All established facts. Every single one.

Why? I have no firsthand knowledge but I assume your kids let you mooch for a couple of reasons. You're a funny guy and they feel sorry for you. They can probably trust you to take care of the grandkids too at times.

I've never heard any suggestions you're a domestic abuser just a serial bullshitter who is broke. Nothing wrong with that. You probably gambled 10x what Kewl has in his lifetime.

I'll bet you look dumb too.

1. Our current CAMPER is stored in a lot in Carson City.
2. Neither our daughter's or our son's homes in Az., nor ours in S. Dakota, have "basements".
3. I don't know what a "zoom call" is or how to make one. And I don't care to.
4. There is no "mooching off of kids". Our approximate $10k/mo. in SS & pensions plus our 7-figure retirement accounts confirm that. Why don't you check THOSE facts. Every single one. Then weep, because it's a known fact that you have--and are--nothing.
5. I am not really a funny guy.
6. Comparing ME to someone like kew is a total insult to ME. Good one.

You can spin your bullshit all you want but all I did was present FACTS.

I'm sorry I offended you by comparing you to Kewl but facts are FACTS.

It doesn't mean you need to be so defensive over my FACTS.

[Rob.Singer]

I don't think anyone has said you totally live off your children. It is a well known fact that they let you park your RV (not a Newell) in front of their house. You use their basement for your office/zoom calls. All established facts. Every single one.

Why? I have no firsthand knowledge but I assume your kids let you mooch for a couple of reasons. You're a funny guy and they feel sorry for you. They can probably trust you to take care of the grandkids too at times.

I've never heard any suggestions you're a domestic abuser just a serial bullshitter who is broke. Nothing wrong with that. You probably gambled 10x what Kewl has in his lifetime.

I'll bet you look dumb too.

1. Our current CAMPER is stored in a lot in Carson City.
2. Neither our daughter's or our son's homes in Az., nor ours in S. Dakota, have "basements".
3. I don't know what a "zoom call" is or how to make one. And I don't care to.
4. There is no "mooching off of kids". Our approximate $10k/mo. in SS & pensions plus our 7-figure retirement accounts confirm that. Why don't you check THOSE facts. Every single one. Then weep, because it's a known fact that you have--and are--nothing.
5. I am not really a funny guy.
6. Comparing ME to someone like kew is a total insult to ME. Good one.

You can spin your bullshit all you want but all I did was present FACTS.

I'm sorry I offended you by comparing you to Kewl but facts are FACTS.

It doesn't mean you need to be so defensive over my FACTS.

I'm "spinning" any of the 6 facts I provided....which you choose to assert is your FACTS?

Can you support any of your obvious lies with any sort of direct proof? Please include support for your claim that I've "gambled 10x what kew has lifetime". I believe it's 50-100x or way more because he doesn't have the resources to be anything other than just another low-stakes local gambling addict. And I put up pictures (which drive you crazy, of course) proving I play hi-limits whenever I want. What has he ever shown anybody other than he's such a messed up crybaby who's sole contribution to mankind is the ability to fake his own death to a bunch of online forum anonymous posters?

It's what happens when a low-level loner like yourself gets overly attached to the pathological lying of someone like kew. You end up LIKE him: you assume everything and can never back up anything that's claimed. You just NEED your assertions to be true, just so you can cope.

So let's have the backup.

[Rob.Singer]

I promise this is my last one. We have our last function to go to at 5 then we're leaving for the midwest again. The only reason I'm posting this no-big-deal hit is because it had to show on the only line w/o a multiplier.

Trip was more profitable than I expected, given I didn't play higher than dollars. Just about +$6k.

[kewlJ]

Look how angry this old dude, Singer, gets at anybody that expresses any doubt to his "stories"?

And he keeps invoking my name in EVERY post. I guess because I have repeatedly said his claims are BS because they defy math. Add in that I am openly gay and his obsession goes off the rail.

Rob, this isn't about me. So stop with your obsession. This is about many different people expressing doubt and in no small part due to years of your bullshit.

[Rob.Singer]

For my final post before we leave tonight, I'm really writing it to MrV. It's a story of one of our trips to Oregon in or around 2010.

We booked 3 nights at the Pacific City motel--just a beautifully quaint and very clean place across the street from the ocean. The famous Pelican Brew Pub, which is across the street and right on the ocean, is where we took most of our meals (and beer). Their food is diverse and top notch.

On our way up from Phx. we stayed 1 night at the GN in downtown LV. This wasn't planned as a gambling trip at all, but I took just $1000 in case I had time to play. It was a one-shot deal: if I lost it I wouldn't get or use any more cash in order to keep the trip in its proper perspective.

Well, I did play at the big main bar at GN and I quit after losing $900. The next morning when we woke up Cindy asked me to go get her a bloody Mary. So I went down to that same bar and decided to play my last hundred and get the drink "comped". With $35 remaining on BP I got four 7's, left a $1 tip for the drink, cashed out and went upstairs.

On our way back I had booked a comp room at the Atlantis in Reno. Dead tired from driving, fate would serve me up a 50c royal as I sat at the bar for a beer before retiring.

The next day I booked a stopover at the Ramada Express in Laughlin--a great place to play in its heyday. I got RFB there (those were the days) so we had a great meal in their Steakhouse. But prior to that it was surreal out on the floor. I was playing $1 thru $10 and promptly hit four 7's on $10 8/5 BP. Back then 7's paid triple, so the handpay was $3750 instead of $1250. Then within 4 or 5 minutes a $10 royal appeared. After that it was like taking candy from a baby: four Aces on $2 10/7 dbp, four Aces twice on $5 10/7 dbp, and lastly, a $2 royal.

After that, the casino manager came out and said he was restricting my play to not ever receiving points again when I play. I laughed. But you know what? It's still in effect today, even as Ramada has been sold multiple times since then. I came home with almost $53000 profit, after being down to my last $35 of gambling money.

[kewlJ]

Great "story", Ron!

Don't ya just live these stories by degenerate gamblers? "I was down to my last couple bucks and won 53k".

Hey wait...2010. Didn't you previously tell us you played the Double up bug from 2005 to 2010? Now you are telling us you and the wife were running all over the country gambling and turning your last couple bucks to $53k. Can't wait to hear tomorrow's tales.

[jbjb]

One of the regulars that plays 5 play, $1 and $2 UX scored about $75,000 or so in w2-g's today.

[redietz]

Great "story", Ron!

Don't ya just live these stories by degenerate gamblers? "I was down to my last couple bucks and won 53k".

Hey wait...2010. Didn't you previously tell us you played the Double up bug from 2005 to 2010? Now you are telling us you and the wife were running all over the country gambling and turning your last couple bucks to $53k. Can't wait to hear tomorrow's tales.

KewlJ, as a Spider-man fan (I have an Amazing Fantasy #15), I am disappointed in you. You are behind the times on the whole multi-verse concept. In certain parts of the multi-verse, some people use the double up bug. In other parts of the multi-verse, they don't. In some universes, some folks drive a Newell. In some, they don't. It depends which part of the multi-verse you find yourself in. Hard to keep track. I suggest you see Doctor Strange 2 -- The Multiverse of Madness. That should help a lot.

[Rob.Singer]

Great "story", Ron!

Don't ya just live these stories by degenerate gamblers? "I was down to my last couple bucks and won 53k".

Hey wait...2010. Didn't you previously tell us you played the Double up bug from 2005 to 2010? Now you are telling us you and the wife were running all over the country gambling and turning your last couple bucks to $53k. Can't wait to hear tomorrow's tales.

I wish I had more time to mock the loser.

More kew concoctions. 2004-2009.

You are so envious...and I love it!

[Rob.Singer]

One of the regulars that plays 5 play, $1 and $2 UX scored about $75,000 or so in w2-g's today.

Not too hard when you hit the multipliers or a dealt hi-end winner. I had $176,500 in signers (3) playing 40 minutes including handpay waits.

The redietz post? Weird.

[kewlJ]

More kew concoctions. 2004-2009.

You are so envious...and I love it!

Just stop Singer. You are embarrassing yourself. NOONE is jealous of you! People pointing out inconsistencies in your ever changing stories, doesn't mean they are jealous of you. It means they are pointing out inconsistencies and contradictions to your ever changing stories.

I can't keep track of all your ever-changing dates and timelines, but 2004-2009 does sound about right for what you changed the timeline to a few years ago. (ever-changing timeline). But I am pretty sure you also said something to the effect that after2009, you stopped playing, for a number of years while things cooled down. I am not going to spend time looking, but I beleive it was something like that. Now all of the sudden, the following year, you were traveling all over Nevada playing.

It is probably true that you were traveling all over Nevada playing in 2010, because I believe you are a degenerate type -EV gambler, who HAS to play. It is the double up bug claim that I never believed. Other than that, you are just like every other degenerate gambler, who has to play, and then only talks about the winning periods, never the losing. Same exact as your new pal Mdog. Win, Win, Win, but never a mention of any losing, while playing -EV games. It is like you people think everyone on these boards is stupid.

[accountinquestion]

I'll bet you look dumb too.

1. Our current CAMPER is stored in a lot in Carson City.
2. Neither our daughter's or our son's homes in Az., nor ours in S. Dakota, have "basements".
3. I don't know what a "zoom call" is or how to make one. And I don't care to.
4. There is no "mooching off of kids". Our approximate $10k/mo. in SS & pensions plus our 7-figure retirement accounts confirm that. Why don't you check THOSE facts. Every single one. Then weep, because it's a known fact that you have--and are--nothing.
5. I am not really a funny guy.
6. Comparing ME to someone like kew is a total insult to ME. Good one.

You can spin your bullshit all you want but all I did was present FACTS.

I'm sorry I offended you by comparing you to Kewl but facts are FACTS.

It doesn't mean you need to be so defensive over my FACTS.

I'm "spinning" any of the 6 facts I provided....which you choose to assert is your FACTS?

Can you support any of your obvious lies with any sort of direct proof? Please include support for your claim that I've "gambled 10x what kew has lifetime". I believe it's 50-100x or way more because he doesn't have the resources to be anything other than just another low-stakes local gambling addict. And I put up pictures (which drive you crazy, of course) proving I play hi-limits whenever I want. What has he ever shown anybody other than he's such a messed up crybaby who's sole contribution to mankind is the ability to fake his own death to a bunch of online forum anonymous posters?

It's what happens when a low-level loner like yourself gets overly attached to the pathological lying of someone like kew. You end up LIKE him: you assume everything and can never back up anything that's claimed. You just NEED your assertions to be true, just so you can cope.

So let's have the backup.

Look buckoo, I didn't want to go into this but I have access by way of second hand to what i assume is the most extensive database on American citizens. This is national security level stuff. I'm not going to say anymore but these databases have extensive details.

These details have been verified by others on this forum.

You know it, we know it.

Here are some FACTS.

Rob's publicly known mailing address is the same as his daughter's.

Although I don't have access to military grade satellite imagery I do have access to something called Google.

So when I put your your (ahem your daughter's) address in google maps and zoom in quite close I can easily see what appears to be a 20 foot minimum camper trailer possibly RV.

The database says you and your wife make a total of 3320.32 in SS benefits.

I do not have access to bank balances. That sort of thing is not put in databases but the base-level government info is.

All these are FACTS.

You can DENY on the INTERNET all you want sweetie but these are the FACTS.

You can bring up kewl ad infinitum to try and dodge these FACTS but I'd suggest you start confronting the man in the mirror.

There is also absolutely no mention of you ever having a Newell in your name. I do see a 1991 26' Dutchman camper in your name.

be better. demand better.

OR come up with more pictures that don't show someone else gambling...

[accountinquestion]

You may or may not have gambled more than Kewl. I really have no way of knowing but I'm leaning towards maybe having been wrong on that one.

I can't get them 100%.

[MisterV]

Well played.

[kewlJ]

You may or may not have gambled more than Kewl. I really have no way of knowing but I'm leaning towards maybe having been wrong on that one.

I can't get them 100%.

I haven't said anything while this has been mentioned a number of times, but as an AP, when I place wagers at the BJ tables or anything else I do while playing with an advantage, I don't like the term "gambled". This is where I differential between players playing with an advantage and players playing -EV, which is what I consider gambling. Now I do place some sports wagers, mostly during football season and college basketball tournament season. THAT is my gambling. It is -Ev and is my entertainment.

Now, you and Rob seem to be discussing money put into action, mine at an advantage and his, a whole lot of voodoo type -EV gambling.

So I don't know what you guys are comparing. It isn't apples to oranges, it is apples to moon rocks or something.

And if someone is trying to make some sort of point that I don't put massive amounts of money into play, well show me where I ever said I did. I am a mid-level AP, grinder type AP. I never claimed to be any kind of high end player. But it does add up.

Playing a spread of $25 / $50 to mostly around $500 (max bet) for many years and double that the past couple (covid years), I would guess my average wager was in the $100 to $125 range and is double that now. And playing 60,000-80,000 rounds annually (fewer now), well you can do the math....it works out to 8-9 million a year put into action @ a 1% advantage. And guess what that is exactly what I have averaged a year.

I am only speaking for myself, but I am just not impressed by people betting more than me (singer, Mdog), but playing -EV, which means they are losing over the long run, despite what they claim. If THAT is supposed to impress me, it misses the mark.

[kewlJ]

Here are some FACTS.

Rob's publicly known mailing address is the same as his daughter's.

Although I don't have access to military grade satellite imagery I do have access to something called Google.

So when I put your your (ahem your daughter's) address in google maps and zoom in quite close I can easily see what appears to be a 20 foot minimum camper trailer possibly RV.

The database says you and your wife make a total of 3320.32 in SS benefits.

I do not have access to bank balances. That sort of thing is not put in databases but the base-level government info is.

All these are FACTS.

You can DENY on the INTERNET all you want sweetie but these are the FACTS.

You can bring up kewl ad infinitum to try and dodge these FACTS but I'd suggest you start confronting the man in the mirror.

There is also absolutely no mention of you ever having a Newell in your name. I do see a 1991 26' Dutchman camper in your name.

be better. demand better.

OR come up with more pictures that don't show someone else gambling...

Well done AIQ. The problem is Rob doesn't deal in facts (or reality).

[MaxPen]

You can spin your bullshit all you want but all I did was present FACTS.

I'm sorry I offended you by comparing you to Kewl but facts are FACTS.

It doesn't mean you need to be so defensive over my FACTS.

I'm "spinning" any of the 6 facts I provided....which you choose to assert is your FACTS?

Can you support any of your obvious lies with any sort of direct proof? Please include support for your claim that I've "gambled 10x what kew has lifetime". I believe it's 50-100x or way more because he doesn't have the resources to be anything other than just another low-stakes local gambling addict. And I put up pictures (which drive you crazy, of course) proving I play hi-limits whenever I want. What has he ever shown anybody other than he's such a messed up crybaby who's sole contribution to mankind is the ability to fake his own death to a bunch of online forum anonymous posters?

It's what happens when a low-level loner like yourself gets overly attached to the pathological lying of someone like kew. You end up LIKE him: you assume everything and can never back up anything that's claimed. You just NEED your assertions to be true, just so you can cope.

So let's have the backup.

Look buckoo, I didn't want to go into this but I have access by way of second hand to what i assume is the most extensive database on American citizens. This is national security level stuff. I'm not going to say anymore but these databases have extensive details.

These details have been verified by others on this forum.

You know it, we know it.

Here are some FACTS.

Rob's publicly known mailing address is the same as his daughter's.

Although I don't have access to military grade satellite imagery I do have access to something called Google.

So when I put your your (ahem your daughter's) address in google maps and zoom in quite close I can easily see what appears to be a 20 foot minimum camper trailer possibly RV.

The database says you and your wife make a total of 3320.32 in SS benefits.

I do not have access to bank balances. That sort of thing is not put in databases but the base-level government info is.

All these are FACTS.

You can DENY on the INTERNET all you want sweetie but these are the FACTS.

You can bring up kewl ad infinitum to try and dodge these FACTS but I'd suggest you start confronting the man in the mirror.

There is also absolutely no mention of you ever having a Newell in your name. I do see a 1991 26' Dutchman camper in your name.

be better. demand better.

OR come up with more pictures that don't show someone else gambling...

What's that salary for an engineer aide at say a company like Honeywell?

[Rob.Singer]

You can spin your bullshit all you want but all I did was present FACTS.

I'm sorry I offended you by comparing you to Kewl but facts are FACTS.

It doesn't mean you need to be so defensive over my FACTS.

I'm "spinning" any of the 6 facts I provided....which you choose to assert is your FACTS?

Can you support any of your obvious lies with any sort of direct proof? Please include support for your claim that I've "gambled 10x what kew has lifetime". I believe it's 50-100x or way more because he doesn't have the resources to be anything other than just another low-stakes local gambling addict. And I put up pictures (which drive you crazy, of course) proving I play hi-limits whenever I want. What has he ever shown anybody other than he's such a messed up crybaby who's sole contribution to mankind is the ability to fake his own death to a bunch of online forum anonymous posters?

It's what happens when a low-level loner like yourself gets overly attached to the pathological lying of someone like kew. You end up LIKE him: you assume everything and can never back up anything that's claimed. You just NEED your assertions to be true, just so you can cope.

So let's have the backup.

Look buckoo, I didn't want to go into this but I have access by way of second hand to what i assume is the most extensive database on American citizens. This is national security level stuff. I'm not going to say anymore but these databases have extensive details.

These details have been verified by others on this forum.

You know it, we know it.

Here are some FACTS.

Rob's publicly known mailing address is the same as his daughter's.

Although I don't have access to military grade satellite imagery I do have access to something called Google.

So when I put your your (ahem your daughter's) address in google maps and zoom in quite close I can easily see what appears to be a 20 foot minimum camper trailer possibly RV.

The database says you and your wife make a total of 3320.32 in SS benefits.

I do not have access to bank balances. That sort of thing is not put in databases but the base-level government info is.

All these are FACTS.

You can DENY on the INTERNET all you want sweetie but these are the FACTS.

You can bring up kewl ad infinitum to try and dodge these FACTS but I'd suggest you start confronting the man in the mirror.

There is also absolutely no mention of you ever having a Newell in your name. I do see a 1991 26' Dutchman camper in your name.

be better. demand better.

OR come up with more pictures that don't show someone else gambling...

Those are some "special access FACTS" alright. Just the type of nonsense kew and max drool over. A 1991 Dutchman out in front of a house on a street & HOA that doesn't allow them? $3320.xx in SS? Where's the retirement accounts and pensions information? Your "access" seems to have some holes. One of the pensions is from the GOV'T! And it's useless going over the house purchases again. Just as with the jackpots, when it hurts too much to believe things then you people can only cope by making stuff up to soothe the discomfort. It's easy to throw up all kinds of BS with no pictures, no support, and all wishful guessing. And AQ, with your life I'd be rattled over it too.

Your baloney is just as phony as kew's. At least max paid attention or was an avid reader of my column and site in the 2000's and understands my wife worked for Honeywell for 33 years. He just didn't get her various job titles correct over the years but I suspect he made that up because it sounds "small" you know, like his little toilet seat.

What I'm seeing is how deeply I've wounded you poor unsubstantial folks with my recent hits (especially the, eh-em, LARGER one ), and I would say that my goal was successfully accomplished!

One last point for kew that'll further disturb him: I can't exactly remember when we went on that particular trip to Oregon--maybe it was earlier than 2009 and maybe not. But it's what's normal people who are married do, and it's called a VACATION. Not something you casino slugs in LV are used to, is it. It's not difficult understanding the level of jealousy and anger shown here when it comes to normal.