Objective proof?

[Rob.Singer]

You may or may not have gambled more than Kewl. I really have no way of knowing but I'm leaning towards maybe having been wrong on that one.

I can't get them 100%.

I haven't said anything while this has been mentioned a number of times, but as an AP, when I place wagers at the BJ tables or anything else I do while playing with an advantage, I don't like the term "gambled". This is where I differential between players playing with an advantage and players playing -EV, which is what I consider gambling. Now I do place some sports wagers, mostly during football season and college basketball tournament season. THAT is my gambling. It is -Ev and is my entertainment.

Now, you and Rob seem to be discussing money put into action, mine at an advantage and his, a whole lot of voodoo type -EV gambling.

So I don't know what you guys are comparing. It isn't apples to oranges, it is apples to moon rocks or something.

And if someone is trying to make some sort of point that I don't put massive amounts of money into play, well show me where I ever said I did. I am a mid-level AP, grinder type AP. I never claimed to be any kind of high end player. But it does add up.

Playing a spread of $25 / $50 to mostly around $500 (max bet) for many years and double that the past couple (covid years), I would guess my average wager was in the $100 to $125 range and is double that now. And playing 60,000-80,000 rounds annually (fewer now), well you can do the math....it works out to 8-9 million a year put into action @ a 1% advantage. And guess what that is exactly what I have averaged a year.

I am only speaking for myself, but I am just not impressed by people betting more than me (singer, Mdog), but playing -EV, which means they are losing over the long run, despite what they claim. If THAT is supposed to impress me, it misses the mark.

And what were the odds that the moment kew and his concocted "I'm a pro bj player who wins every year" came into question again, that he'd be compelled to hobble thru his bevy of lies yet AGAIN?

[accountinquestion]

I'm "spinning" any of the 6 facts I provided....which you choose to assert is your FACTS?

Can you support any of your obvious lies with any sort of direct proof? Please include support for your claim that I've "gambled 10x what kew has lifetime". I believe it's 50-100x or way more because he doesn't have the resources to be anything other than just another low-stakes local gambling addict. And I put up pictures (which drive you crazy, of course) proving I play hi-limits whenever I want. What has he ever shown anybody other than he's such a messed up crybaby who's sole contribution to mankind is the ability to fake his own death to a bunch of online forum anonymous posters?

It's what happens when a low-level loner like yourself gets overly attached to the pathological lying of someone like kew. You end up LIKE him: you assume everything and can never back up anything that's claimed. You just NEED your assertions to be true, just so you can cope.

So let's have the backup.

Look buckoo, I didn't want to go into this but I have access by way of second hand to what i assume is the most extensive database on American citizens. This is national security level stuff. I'm not going to say anymore but these databases have extensive details.

These details have been verified by others on this forum.

You know it, we know it.

Here are some FACTS.

Rob's publicly known mailing address is the same as his daughter's.

Although I don't have access to military grade satellite imagery I do have access to something called Google.

So when I put your your (ahem your daughter's) address in google maps and zoom in quite close I can easily see what appears to be a 20 foot minimum camper trailer possibly RV.

The database says you and your wife make a total of 3320.32 in SS benefits.

I do not have access to bank balances. That sort of thing is not put in databases but the base-level government info is.

All these are FACTS.

You can DENY on the INTERNET all you want sweetie but these are the FACTS.

You can bring up kewl ad infinitum to try and dodge these FACTS but I'd suggest you start confronting the man in the mirror.

There is also absolutely no mention of you ever having a Newell in your name. I do see a 1991 26' Dutchman camper in your name.

be better. demand better.

OR come up with more pictures that don't show someone else gambling...

Those are some "special access FACTS" alright. Just the type of nonsense kew and max drool over. A 1991 Dutchman out in front of a house on a street & HOA that doesn't allow them? $3320.xx in SS? Where's the retirement accounts and pensions information? Your "access" seems to have some holes. One of the pensions is from the GOV'T! And it's useless going over the house purchases again. Just as with the jackpots, when it hurts too much to believe things then you people can only cope by making stuff up to soothe the discomfort. It's easy to throw up all kinds of BS with no pictures, no support, and all wishful guessing. And AQ, with your life I'd be rattled over it too.

Your baloney is just as phony as kew's. At least max paid attention or was an avid reader of my column and site in the 2000's and understands my wife worked for Honeywell for 33 years. He just didn't get her various job titles correct over the years but I suspect he made that up because it sounds "small" you know, like his little toilet seat.

What I'm seeing is how deeply I've wounded you poor unsubstantial folks with my recent hits (especially the, eh-em, LARGER one ), and I would say that my goal was successfully accomplished!

One last point for kew that'll further disturb him: I can't exactly remember when we went on that particular trip to Oregon--maybe it was earlier than 2009 and maybe not. But it's what's normal people who are married do, and it's called a VACATION. Not something you casino slugs in LV are used to, is it. It's not difficult understanding the level of jealousy and anger shown here when it comes to normal.

I don't think anyone is wounded but I know someone wound up.

Dare I say butthurt?

Regardless of whose feelings are hurt in this thread ONE thing is for certain - FACTS are FACTS. You can be defensive and try to spin your bullshit like usual but in the end these are ALL VERIFIABLE FACTS and you KNOW IT.

I don't need to repeat this stuff over and over like Kewl does. We all know it is ALL true. The public records tell the tale and we even have visual confirmation via Google maps.

Also - it is EXTREMELY telling that you didn't even try to deny the 3200 in SS benefits. You just make up more mumbo jumbo about having other sources of income which are unverifiable. (like usual)

[Rob.Singer]

Only someone who has nothing and comes unglued enough to fabricate "FACTS" about someone else while using multiple excuses why they cannot provide any evidence whatsoever, would be dumb enuf to actually end up showing it.

What's telling is the level of uselessness you reside at. You see someone like me post my winners and just like kew and max, you lose your mind and make up whatever things you can in order to try and make the hurt go away. Which it never does.

Dispute your SS claim? I mocked it, because it's neither close to the true numbers nor is your story about having some sort of "secret 2nd hand Govt access" worthy of discussing. If that were true you'd have posted some figure for the amount of my monthly govt pension. But you forgot about that one when you made up your silly story, didn't you.

Then you have a Google maps image of the house I bought for my daughter that you claim we live in today but we do not. Complete with a 1991 "Dutchman" or whatever...correct? How about explaining how that made its way into your tale. Then prove any of it.

Ever see the movie Liar Liar AQ? Hmmm....dumb question I suppose. With how you present yourself and from what I've heard, you spend most of your time on the couch in front of a tube or computer.

[Rob.Singer]

BTW, what's a "butthurt"? Is that something fat old lazy people get from sitting around all day that's related to hemorrhoids?

[accountinquestion]

Only someone who has nothing and comes unglued enough to fabricate "FACTS" about someone else while using multiple excuses why they cannot provide any evidence whatsoever, would be dumb enuf to actually end up showing it.

What's telling is the level of uselessness you reside at. You see someone like me post my winners and just like kew and max, you lose your mind and make up whatever things you can in order to try and make the hurt go away. Which it never does.

Dispute your SS claim? I mocked it, because it's neither close to the true numbers nor is your story about having some sort of "secret 2nd hand Govt access" worthy of discussing. If that were true you'd have posted some figure for the amount of my monthly govt pension. But you forgot about that one when you made up your silly story, didn't you.

Then you have a Google maps image of the house I bought for my daughter that you claim we live in today but we do not. Complete with a 1991 "Dutchman" or whatever...correct? How about explaining how that made its way into your tale. Then prove any of it.

Ever see the movie Liar Liar AQ? Hmmm....dumb question I suppose. With how you present yourself and from what I've heard, you spend most of your time on the couch in front of a tube or computer.

Singer, I am NOT judging you. There are a few things I presume.

Your daughter loves you. You were probably a decent father. You seem to have a good sense of humor. I have no reason to think you didn't take care of your kids. Otherwise she would not let you camp out in her driveway. You likely had a lot of friends. You're a humorous guy with all the yarns you spin.

I really don't care if you hit that lick or not outside of pointing out how laughable it is. Possibly it is true. I find that highly unlikely. Picture from side because of glare blah blah. Your financials. Nothing adds up.

Really dude, you should just give it up. I don't care if you were a career losing gambler. Most people are. Now others like Kewl might judge but frankly I don't care either way. Like I said, I am NOT the one judging.

I was simply curious and called on some favors from some old friends who went into intelligence after university. If I was to explain any of this in detail - they would lose their jobs with a slight chance of being prosecuted.

I will say this - I find it a lot more likely that you hit that lick than you having a Newell or many other things you say.

I laugh with you, not at you.

Peace, brother.

[accountinquestion]

BTW, what's a "butthurt"? Is that something fat old lazy people get from sitting around all day that's related to hemorrhoids?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...?term=Butthurt

[Rob.Singer]

Only someone who has nothing and comes unglued enough to fabricate "FACTS" about someone else while using multiple excuses why they cannot provide any evidence whatsoever, would be dumb enuf to actually end up showing it.

What's telling is the level of uselessness you reside at. You see someone like me post my winners and just like kew and max, you lose your mind and make up whatever things you can in order to try and make the hurt go away. Which it never does.

Dispute your SS claim? I mocked it, because it's neither close to the true numbers nor is your story about having some sort of "secret 2nd hand Govt access" worthy of discussing. If that were true you'd have posted some figure for the amount of my monthly govt pension. But you forgot about that one when you made up your silly story, didn't you.

Then you have a Google maps image of the house I bought for my daughter that you claim we live in today but we do not. Complete with a 1991 "Dutchman" or whatever...correct? How about explaining how that made its way into your tale. Then prove any of it.

Ever see the movie Liar Liar AQ? Hmmm....dumb question I suppose. With how you present yourself and from what I've heard, you spend most of your time on the couch in front of a tube or computer.

Singer, I am NOT judging you. There are a few things I presume.

Your daughter loves you. You were probably a decent father. You seem to have a good sense of humor. I have no reason to think you didn't take care of your kids. Otherwise she would not let you camp out in her driveway. You likely had a lot of friends. You're a humorous guy with all the yarns you spin.

I really don't care if you hit that lick or not outside of pointing out how laughable it is. Possibly it is true. I find that highly unlikely. Picture from side because of glare blah blah. Your financials. Nothing adds up.

Really dude, you should just give it up. I don't care if you were a career losing gambler. Most people are. Now others like Kewl might judge but frankly I don't care either way. Like I said, I am NOT the one judging.

I was simply curious and called on some favors from some old friends who went into intelligence after university. If I was to explain any of this in detail - they would lose their jobs with a slight chance of being prosecuted.

I will say this - I find it a lot more likely that you hit that lick than you having a Newell or many other things you say.

I laugh with you, not at you.

Peace, brother.

Then you are very confusing. You posted a lie about our ss, saying it's "via your secret access into govt records via intelligence friends" (of which I am a retired one of "those" by the way) yet you have no info on my govt pension nor my account associated with the govt. And you supposedly got these intelligence people to put their jobs at risk to get you secret govt information because you didn't believe someone on a gaming-based forum? Haha. That's ever more far-fetched than kew claiming what he did about getting MDawg's casino records Get real AQ.

Why even bother? Because things don't "add up"? Bingo! It's not supposed to, Sherlock. You think I'm gonna come onto the scene in 2000 and give a bio of our lives on my site and in the media without keeping certain things away from the snoopers while at the same time allowing certain things to be seen? Do you have any clue what happens in life besides sitting on a couch? Ever hear of judgement proofing? How about identity theft proofing.

Your entire set of assertions comes from kew's lies along with your confusingly inaccurate "FACTS". We haven't lived in that house I bought that I'm guessing you're referring to in over 5 years. Our daughter lives full time in Minnesota. Our camper is and has been parked in Carson City at HandB RV storage on Industrial. The Newell was stored in Gilbert. Critics had an 11-day opportunity to go there when I posted the address but didn't. When I post big wins, W2G's, or just about anything short of me being arrested for child molestation then you guys get so shaken over all of it that you fabricate unsubstantiated claims about how "it doesn't add up".

There's one and only one reason why anyone would do that. Because they don't do so well, they never have and never will, and they think I'm rubbing my success--which is really nothing special and certainly no better than most married couples who've had long careers working in the govt and Aerospace industry. But you know what? I AM! And why not? Forget my career--Ive won playing -ev games, and I absolutely and proudly DOMINATED the DU bug while the rest of you were cutting coupons, and apparently still are.

Sure you won't and can't post any support for your made up baloney but nobody has ever done that either, because it's always fake. Claiming "Intelligence help" got you some info doesn't even rise to the low levels of kew's "eviction, food stamp fraud and welfare" claims.

Oh....the intelligence community doesn't have access to, of all things, people's ss income numbers. If they needed something like that it would take a court order along with a valid reason and involve the Treasury dept. Seems like lots of folks put their careers and freedom on the line just to get you my SS numbers, right? Permit me to laugh.
I sleep during the day and drive overnight most of the time. Good night.

[mickeycrimm]

I don't think anyone has said you totally live off your children. It is a well known fact that they let you park your RV (not a Newell) in front of their house. You use their basement for your office/zoom calls. All established facts. Every single one.

Why? I have no firsthand knowledge but I assume your kids let you mooch for a couple of reasons. You're a funny guy and they feel sorry for you. They can probably trust you to take care of the grandkids too at times.

I've never heard any suggestions you're a domestic abuser just a serial bullshitter who is broke. Nothing wrong with that. You probably gambled 10x what Kewl has in his lifetime.

Account, could you fill us in on the sources for your "facts" here? If it is well known that Rob camps at his kids house then who provided you with those facts? That is, unless you've seen it for yourself. Are you saying you've seen it for yourself? How would anyone here even know if Rob has ever been to one of his kids houses.

I'm not interested in speculation, conjecture, urban myths, hearsay. Present us with some facts.

[mickeycrimm]

Query; where can I view this rv-newell, hey hey????

It's almost certainly in the Holy Land by now: per Rob it was purchased by an Israeli.

Why an Israeli would come to Arizona to by a Newell is a mystery; it would cost a lot to ship it back home.

I suspect Rob used his old CIA contacts and the buyer was really Mossad, and they'll reconfigure it and then use the Newell as a mobile interrogation / torture unit.

You jump to conclusions. Why would one want an RV is a country the size of New Jersey....and with lots of security problems.

Being Israeli doesn't mean one lives in Israel. It can mean one is from Israel. Like Israeli poker player Eli Elezra. He's lived in the U.S. for decades. If Rob sold the Newll to Eli do you think Eli bought it to use in Israel.

Of course, what you are up to is anything to portray Rob in a bad light. So you play loose with the facts. Of course, the only ones you are fooling is the stupid.

[mickeycrimm]

I don't think anyone has said you totally live off your children. It is a well known fact that they let you park your RV (not a Newell) in front of their house. You use their basement for your office/zoom calls. All established facts. Every single one.

Why? I have no firsthand knowledge but I assume your kids let you mooch for a couple of reasons. You're a funny guy and they feel sorry for you. They can probably trust you to take care of the grandkids too at times.

I've never heard any suggestions you're a domestic abuser just a serial bullshitter who is broke. Nothing wrong with that. You probably gambled 10x what Kewl has in his lifetime.

I'll bet you look dumb too.

1. Our current CAMPER is stored in a lot in Carson City.
2. Neither our daughter's or our son's homes in Az., nor ours in S. Dakota, have "basements".
3. I don't know what a "zoom call" is or how to make one. And I don't care to.
4. There is no "mooching off of kids". Our approximate $10k/mo. in SS & pensions plus our 7-figure retirement accounts confirm that. Why don't you check THOSE facts. Every single one. Then weep, because it's a known fact that you have--and are--nothing.
5. I am not really a funny guy.
6. Comparing ME to someone like kew is a total insult to ME. Good one.

You can spin your bullshit all you want but all I did was present FACTS.

I'm sorry I offended you by comparing you to Kewl but facts are FACTS.

It doesn't mean you need to be so defensive over my FACTS.

AQ, you ain't presenting any facts. You've gone the KJ route of false premises. You ain't got a clue about Rob and his kids, neither does KJ. You just make the shit up as you go.

[mickeycrimm]

Great "story", Ron!

Don't ya just live these stories by degenerate gamblers? "I was down to my last couple bucks and won 53k".

Hey wait...2010. Didn't you previously tell us you played the Double up bug from 2005 to 2010? Now you are telling us you and the wife were running all over the country gambling and turning your last couple bucks to $53k. Can't wait to hear tomorrow's tales.

KewlJ, as a Spider-man fan (I have an Amazing Fantasy #15), I am disappointed in you. You are behind the times on the whole multi-verse concept. In certain parts of the multi-verse, some people use the double up bug. In other parts of the multi-verse, they don't. In some universes, some folks drive a Newell. In some, they don't. It depends which part of the multi-verse you find yourself in. Hard to keep track. I suggest you see Doctor Strange 2 -- The Multiverse of Madness. That should help a lot.

Rob quit the double up in April 2009. Rob writes a story about 2010 and goofballs, KJ and redietz, go nuts with some made up shit that didn't even fit the time frame. Fuckin' idiots.

[jbjb]

The double up bug never existed....anywhere. It was a made up excuse by the original conspirators to hide their theft.

[mickeycrimm]

More kew concoctions. 2004-2009.

You are so envious...and I love it!

Just stop Singer. You are embarrassing yourself. NOONE is jealous of you! People pointing out inconsistencies in your ever changing stories, doesn't mean they are jealous of you. It means they are pointing out inconsistencies and contradictions to your ever changing stories.

I can't keep track of all your ever-changing dates and timelines, but 2004-2009 does sound about right for what you changed the timeline to a few years ago. (ever-changing timeline). But I am pretty sure you also said something to the effect that after2009, you stopped playing, for a number of years while things cooled down. I am not going to spend time looking, but I beleive it was something like that. Now all of the sudden, the following year, you were traveling all over Nevada playing.

It is probably true that you were traveling all over Nevada playing in 2010, because I believe you are a degenerate type -EV gambler, who HAS to play. It is the double up bug claim that I never believed. Other than that, you are just like every other degenerate gambler, who has to play, and then only talks about the winning periods, never the losing. Same exact as your new pal Mdog. Win, Win, Win, but never a mention of any losing, while playing -EV games. It is like you people think everyone on these boards is stupid.

Wrong agin, bison breath. Rob announced he quit playing video poker professionally in 2009. But he didn't say he quit playing video poker. As a matter of fact he even wrote about playing video poker many times from 2010 onward.

KJ!!!! KING OF THE FALSE PREMISE!!!!

[mickeycrimm]

Here are some FACTS.

Rob's publicly known mailing address is the same as his daughter's.

Although I don't have access to military grade satellite imagery I do have access to something called Google.

So when I put your your (ahem your daughter's) address in google maps and zoom in quite close I can easily see what appears to be a 20 foot minimum camper trailer possibly RV.

The database says you and your wife make a total of 3320.32 in SS benefits.

I do not have access to bank balances. That sort of thing is not put in databases but the base-level government info is.

All these are FACTS.

You can DENY on the INTERNET all you want sweetie but these are the FACTS.

You can bring up kewl ad infinitum to try and dodge these FACTS but I'd suggest you start confronting the man in the mirror.

There is also absolutely no mention of you ever having a Newell in your name. I do see a 1991 26' Dutchman camper in your name.

be better. demand better.

OR come up with more pictures that don't show someone else gambling...

Well done AIQ. The problem is Rob doesn't deal in facts (or reality).

So you take AQ at his word? Why? Oh yeah, that's right. It portrays Singer in a bad light. Of course you are going to say "well played." Idiot.

The problem with AQ's 'facts" is what has been left out. If Rob has 401K income then his income is much higher than AQ's "facts." Of course, with that information left out it portrays Rob in a bad light, so if you've got it in for Rob, why not just leave the information out?

Partial facts are easy to manipulate. My step-father bought a tavern but put it in my sister's name. It was his money that bought it and he ran it. But if you looked it up and found the bar to be in his daughter's name you could say "He's a liar!!! He never owned the bar!!!!" He never owned the bar!!! His daughter owned the bar!!!! He was mooching off his daughter!!!!" But no matter what you say....it was HIS bar.

[MaxPen]

The one Singer claim I'm starting to believe is the 9 inch one. He's got the hobo hypnotized with something.....RIP

[redietz]

Great "story", Ron!

Don't ya just live these stories by degenerate gamblers? "I was down to my last couple bucks and won 53k".

Hey wait...2010. Didn't you previously tell us you played the Double up bug from 2005 to 2010? Now you are telling us you and the wife were running all over the country gambling and turning your last couple bucks to $53k. Can't wait to hear tomorrow's tales.

KewlJ, as a Spider-man fan (I have an Amazing Fantasy #15), I am disappointed in you. You are behind the times on the whole multi-verse concept. In certain parts of the multi-verse, some people use the double up bug. In other parts of the multi-verse, they don't. In some universes, some folks drive a Newell. In some, they don't. It depends which part of the multi-verse you find yourself in. Hard to keep track. I suggest you see Doctor Strange 2 -- The Multiverse of Madness. That should help a lot.

Rob quit the double up in April 2009. Rob writes a story about 2010 and goofballs, KJ and redietz, go nuts with some made up shit that didn't even fit the time frame. Fuckin' idiots.

Didn't know I "made up shit." Help me out and point out my shortcomings, would you, mickey? Mickey, are you unfamiliar with the Multi-Verse? It explains a lot. Rob is an interdimensional traveler, they call people like him "nexus beings." Sometimes they jump into alternate universes, but aren't aware they're in another universe, so they tell tales from their alternate universe past and people don't believe them. It happens.

[redietz]

The double up bug never existed....anywhere. It was a made up excuse by the original conspirators to hide their theft.

I have heard rumors to this effect. Occasionally I get told some hints and gossip that make sense. This is one of them. Another is the idea that certain offshore poker sites use programs that generate the proper distributions of hands per player over time but that the relationships between hands are not random. Interesting premise that does make some sense.

[tableplay]

Forget my career--Ive won playing -ev games, and I absolutely and proudly DOMINATED the DU bug while the rest of you were cutting coupons, and apparently still are.

Ron, speaking of denom changing bugs here is an amusing online exploit someone did (changing a 50 ruble bet to a 5000 ruble bet for the bonus round).

[smurgerburger]

The double up bug never existed....anywhere. It was a made up excuse by the original conspirators to hide their theft.

I have heard rumors to this effect. Occasionally I get told some hints and gossip that make sense. This is one of them. Another is the idea that certain offshore poker sites use programs that generate the proper distributions of hands per player over time but that the relationships between hands are not random. Interesting premise that does make some sense.

Of course the DUP bug was real. Your speculations on this matter have been pretty terrible.

[jpfromla]

The double up bug never existed....anywhere. It was a made up excuse by the original conspirators to hide their theft.

https://www.wired.com/2014/10/cheating-video-poker/