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Thread: Short term vs long term and quitting while ahead (continued)

  1. #141
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    I wouldn't doubt anyone saying that dice landed on top of each other. Probably saw that happen lots of times as a kid playing yahtzee.
    Read the thread at WOV.

  2. #142
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Redietz you're a fine writer too. You stuff a lot of words into your posts. You also stuff a lot of advertisements and clippings into packages.

    You're a stuffer.

    Now read this. It has a term I never saw before.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/goodcas...ure-ahead/amp/


    Gamblers' Conceit -- that's a good term. It means you don't know, or don't care, about the odds. It means the odds don't dictate your behavior.

    For most of the folks here, the odds always dictate their behavior. Take mickey, for example. He's a precisionist. There's not much gamblers' conceit in what he does. If the odds are there, he plays. If the odds aren't there, he walks. He knows the math. Without a math context, you can't tell if you're guilty of gamblers' conceit or not. A civilian can't just blithely assume alleged APs are all lying. KewlJ and all counters play more when the odds are in their favor. They play less when they're not.

    Let me suggest another term: Civilians' Conceit. When people who are not professional gamblers assume they know the contextual math better than professional gamblers. And that they know "how it all ends." That kind of thing is projection. Projection of one's knowledge and skills onto others, and then judging the others.

    Finally, technically speaking, I think that the only things in the package I sent you that could be construed as advertisements were copies of pages from the nationally sold Playbook newsletter, where a thumbnail game analysis was accompanied by a box designation where one could get my plays. I don't think anything else in there was an advertisement. Newspaper interviews with me weren't ads. Op-eds written by me weren't ads. McCusker Reports weren't ads; I didn't even have any say regarding what was printed about me in the McCusker Reports. He wasn't always nice.

    I will never understand why you didn't bother to read the stuff. You were determined to not investigate my credibility. Yet you accepted some single-source articles from a video poker player as evidence of some kind of expertise, even when articles from the same single source argued directly against what he claimed, sometimes in the same issues. Strange, and frankly unfair, behavior from a renowned journalist.

    If you were interested in investigating alleged bullshit claims, you would have read the stuff. It was dry, but you really can't do much better than annual reports of records and public results. And there were people available for follow-up to check any and all claims made. It's not as if I was some solo video poker player using "strategies" unlike any other famous video poker players and claiming massively odds against results without documentation.
    Last edited by redietz; 05-03-2022 at 03:52 PM.

  3. #143
    Alan this isn't a newsroom. And I don't think anyone, other than maybe the Mdog character is trying to get his claims that kind of coverage. I don't even think Singer is or ever did.

    What this and other forums are, are gambling forums, where people (AP's and all sorts of gamblers) can come and talk about their play, including claims if they desire and no one is required to prove anything. No one is on trial. And in most cases....sorry to repeat this, "It just isn't that hard to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking".

    Unfortunately there are some that are really good talkers (or writers) and can blur that line. And that is why it is important to have real players that can and will speak up and say that is bullshit.

    I have never asked Rob to prove anything, or if I did, it was because I got caught up in the escalation. Similarly, I have never asked Mdawg, nor the guy on the blackjack forum years ago that I called out as BS. That is just not the way it works. No one is on trial. If that is the kind of atmosphere you want, where members have to prove everything they say, I can guarantee, you won't have any AP's or if you do they won't share a damn thing.

  4. #144
    I never doubted who you were.

    Life happens. I never went back to the office. My former partner opened the envelope and told me what was inside.

    What did you want, a half-hour TV Infomercial?

  5. #145
    Kewlj I have standards for what I believe in.

  6. #146
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    I wouldn't doubt anyone saying that dice landed on top of each other. Probably saw that happen lots of times as a kid playing yahtzee.
    Read the thread at WOV.
    I'm not saying other people would. I'm saying that I wouldn't.

  7. #147
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Kewlj I have standards for what I believe in.
    Does believe in: stop win systems (it's in his sig).

    Does not believe in: the ability to make money from casino mailers.



    Alan I'm going to put you on ignore now as per your previous recommendation because you bring out too much of my petty side.

    My parting advice to you is to understand that nobody can be knowledgeable in all areas, and AP is one area where you are and always will be completely ignorant because your nature doesn't allow you to understand it.

  8. #148
    Someone answer the question I asked.

  9. #149
    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Kewlj I have standards for what I believe in.
    Does believe in: stop win systems (it's in his sig).

    Does not believe in: the ability to make money from casino mailers.



    Alan I'm going to put you on ignore now as per your previous recommendation because you bring out too much of my petty side.

    My parting advice to you is to understand that nobody can be knowledgeable in all areas, and AP is one area where you are and always will be completely ignorant because your nature doesn't allow you to understand it.
    Of course I believe you can make money from casino maikers. What I question is how much did those mailers cost you to get? How much did you win?

    Until I pressed, DO did not admit he spent $60,000 to get those mailers. No one else asked that. Why didn't you?

    Go ahead... ignore that.

  10. #150
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Until the casinos got hip a lot of money was made setting the casinos up to deliver copious amounts of freeplay. It was a play that was put down in casinos across the country.

    1. You go in and sign up for the players club. You are a new player. Sit down on a $5 video poker game in the 98% range. You want to make yourself look like a total sucker. Run 50 to 100K in action. Theoretical loss = 2 to 4K.

    2. Then it was a matter of waiting on the mail, usually a month or so. The amount of freeplay varied from casino to casino but you'd usually get 1 to 2K a week for up to six months in freeplay.

    3.. Do this at multiple casinos that are unaffiliated.

    4. Run a route to each casino running off the freeplay then leaving.

    I have one friend that was making 150K a year pulling off this play just in California.

    If you'll remember, several years ago the casinos severely cut back freeplay offers and amounts. The reason was the casinos got hurt by wiseguys pulling this play on them.
    Until the casinos got hip...

    Several years ago...

    It's the national anthem of today's APs... talking about the past.

    Come on Mickey. You're better than this.
    You went a long ways out of your way to come up with something negative to say here, Alan. My opinion of you is you are not that bad of a person but you are an addicted gambler with irrational beliefs. YOU are the one in the fantasy world. You are one of the stupidest gamblers that has ever been on the internet.
    Says Mr Not So Bright himself.....lol

    Dumbass hobo....
    FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP

  11. #151
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    And for the rest of you step back for a moment and answer this one question:

    Why do Mdawg and Rob Singer get challenged freely for their reports but I'm expected to accept claims such as:

    My team took $25 million from the casinos

    My free play system wins $20,000 a week

    For only $25 coin in I get $125 per day of free play for 7 days straight.
    C'mon, Alan. You never accepting the answers and claims of AP's is not my problem, nor anyone else's. Thats all your problem. Go ahead and disbelieve. Nobody gives a rats ass.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #152
    Not one of you has made an attempt to explain why claims such as...

    Our team won $25-million...
    $25 coin in got me 7X $125 free play...
    I win $20,000 a week (but not every week)...

    Are not challenged by other APs without supporting evidence.

    But keep ignoring the question and attacking me. I'm enjoying it because each time I can state my case.

  13. #153
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Says Mr Not So Bright himself.....lol

    Dumbass hobo....
    Says the dumass poser pro that likes 9 inch cock up your ass. Then it's back to stepandfetchit for the two bit slot team.

    You easily prove how little you know about gambling. Because you never put up any real gambling theory here. You just talk shit like "Nothing going on in the casinos I don't know about." Bullshit. You're a poser pro. You don't know jackshit.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #154
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    We should create an archive for these tips of wisdom.........lmao

    RIP
    Says the stepandfetchit poser pro.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #155
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    And for the rest of you step back for a moment and answer this one question:

    Why do Mdawg and Rob Singer get challenged freely for their reports but I'm expected to accept claims such as:

    My team took $25 million from the casinos

    My free play system wins $20,000 a week

    For only $25 coin in I get $125 per day of free play for 7 days straight.
    C'mon, Alan. You never accepting the answers and claims of AP's is not my problem, nor anyone else's. Thats all your problem. Go ahead and disbelieve. Nobody gives a rats ass.
    Mickey not once has evidence been offered. It's always a secret.

    Well DO kept the $60k secret till it slipped.
    Then there was a guy you know who captained video poker progressive teams and wrote a book about it. But then one day while having lunch with me at Caesars he let it slip that HE NEVER PLAYED WITH HIS OWN MONEY and he called ALL casino gambling a losing proposition.

    Remember him Mickey?

  16. #156
    Good to see 1 of a kind forum legend Alan back full force. Things are not quite the same around here without his LOLS ! Now if we can only be so lucky, as to get his "paralegal" Mr Andrew back. That would be something else !

  17. #157
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Says Mr Not So Bright himself.....lol

    Dumbass hobo....
    Says the dumass poser pro that likes 9 inch cock up your ass. Then it's back to stepandfetchit for the two bit slot team.

    You easily prove how little you know about gambling. Because you never put up any real gambling theory here. You just talk shit like "Nothing going on in the casinos I don't know about." Bullshit. You're a poser pro. You don't know jackshit.
    Some of us aren't as vocal about all the plays. Max is one of them.

  18. #158
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Good to see 1 of a kind forum legend Alan back full force. Things are not quite the same around here without his LOLS ! Now if we can only be so lucky, as to get his "paralegal" Mr Andrew back. That would be something else !
    Another diversion from the question. This is making me laugh.

  19. #159
    Gambler A puts $1,000 in a 12 month FDIC insured CD with a 5% APR.

    Gambler B has a $1,000 bankroll. Twice a week he visits his local casino where they offer a fair coin flip bet. Since it’s 50/50 they charge a 5% commission on all bets.

    Gambler B has a set win goal and a set stop loss and will always quit for the day when either one is reached.

    Gambler B also happens to be the luckiest person to have ever existed on earth.

    At the end of 12 months who will have more money?

  20. #160
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Gambler A puts $1,000 in a 12 month FDIC insured CD with a 5% APR.

    Gambler B has a $1,000 bankroll. Twice a week he visits his local casino where they offer a fair coin flip bet. Since it’s 50/50 they charge a 5% commission on all bets.

    Gambler B has a set win goal and a set stop loss and will always quit for the day when either one is reached.

    Gambler B also happens to be the luckiest person to have ever existed on earth.

    At the end of 12 months who will have more money?
    This is becoming a comedy.

    Let's call a spade a spade.

    Not one of you will explain why it's okay to challenge the claims of Mdawg and Singer, but you wont question claims like winning $25-million or getting $125 x 7 in free play with just $25 of coin in.

    I'm done.

    If you want to claim victory, go ahead. Because you'll never give a straight answer.

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