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  1. #1841
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I also want to address the numerous comments along the lines of, "Todd shouldn't allow XXXXX on this site".

    This is not WoV. This is a mostly free speech site which I basically allow to run itself. Occasionally I will take action if things start to get out of hand. For example, I don't want to see threats of physical violence, doxxing, or gratuitous racism/homophobia/anti-Semitism here.

    At the same time, I'm not a babysitter. Many of the adults fighting on here are older than I am, and I'm not a young man myself. If you lie down in the mud and bash other people, you can't really cry foul because someone called you a bad name. If you can't take the namecalling, perhaps you should re-evaluate your own posting history and ask yourself if you're trying to agitate others.

    Finally, I want to address Rob Singer's presence in general. I've made statements about this before, but it apparently needs repeating. Rob is a longtime troll who likes to arrogantly lie, and then insult anyone doubting him. He lives for the reactions he gets. At some point he decided he wanted to put together a very elaborate troll job to get everyone riled up, and it worked. This thread is now 92 pages. He put substantial effort into preparing for this one -- even buying prop money.

    Rob is the same Rob who has been here since the beginning. In fact, since I didn't show up here until 2013, he pre-dates my involvement by 3 years. I pretty much inherited Rob Singer when I took over this forum. Could I ban him? Sure. Am I going to? No.

    Rob is not a danger to anyone. He doesn't scam, doesn't threaten physical harm to people, and doesn't dox anyone. He's just a liar and a troll. To my knowledge, not a single person has been dumb enough to follow his "systems", and if they were, that's on them. You have to do your own research when people on gambling forums claim to have found a magic bullet winning strategy. Rob has never charged a penny for his "strategies", and never gained financially from his involvement here. Additionally, he is subject to such heavy criticism that one would have to be a moron to believe anything he's claimed, given all of the counter posts and counter evidence.

    Rob is and has always been part of the Vegas Casino Talk landscape. However, I have banned him from many threads here when he ruins serious discussions, and will continue to do so as needed.
    Druff, maxpen has been firing homophobic content at me for almost three years. I finally got enough of it and started firing back. My intention has been to repeately insult and humiliate him for his transgressions. I've done a great job. He's triggered out the ass because he can dish it out but can't take it.

    However, in honor of your request I will knock off the homophobic content directed at him. For now. But if maxpen fires just one homophobic post at me the war is back on. I will go right back to homophobic content. I simply will not tolerate being attacked with homophobic content without responding in kind.

    This goes for KJ too. KJ has never said a word about maxpen's homophobic content but lashes out at me about it. My side didn't start that shit. His side did. I'm not the one that is going to sit back and honor your request if other members are not doing the same.
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  2. #1842
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I finished the thread.

    Yes, I saw what PositiveVariance discovered (good job), and I have some comments about that, as well as Rob's "Vegas strip" visit.

    First off, I doubt Rob was ever in Vegas. As I mentioned before, he was using a VPN service showing a Vegas location, but that's meaningless. Someone on another continent could show up here as being from "Las Vegas" with the same trick. Fortunately I can tell the difference between VPNs and legit local IPs. While Rob might claim he was using a VPN while also in Vegas, that wouldn't make any sense. He was using a service called "IP Vanish" (or one of its subsidiary services), and no local Vegas internet connections would subscribe to such a thing. In fact, I am familiar with the IPs of the Wifi for most Vegas hotels, and Rob's IP was none of those. Instead, it was that VPN service meant to change his apparent location. Nice try, though.

    I think PositiveVariance figured out the screen shot pretty well. Indeed, this was run on a Windows computer. The cursor, the blue upper bar, and the minimize "dash" at the top right gave that all away. The "editing" excuse is garbage. If he needed to edit the screen shot in order to get it down to a size this site would accept for posting, then it wouldn't make a sense to take a picture of the edited photo, as that would induce the same problem all over again (it would again be too big!)

    As I mentioned before, and has been pointed out by many others, the stack of bills were fake. Rob is being reckless by posting that he has $700k sitting in his home. This is a public forum, and certain unsavory characters read this place. He is putting himself and his family in danger by making such claims, as some might take it seriously and believe that there's $700k in cash to steal from his house. Many people would kill for that type of money. Pretty dumb, Rob. Your wife would be pissed if she knew. For the record, there's zero chance Rob has $700k sitting in his house, so anyone considering going down and committing a crime for it shouldn't bother. You should be thanking people for pointing out this being a lie, Rob.

    In summary:

    - Rob did not play $25/credit UX
    - Rob did not hit a $1.5m jackpot
    - Rob did not tip $20k
    - Rob did not come to Vegas two weeks ago to meet with Max, Alan, or anyone
    - Rob does not have $700k in his safe
    - Rob does not even have tens of thousands in his safe -- the cash was fake

    Thank you for playing.
    Dan you are now a serial liar. I'm not gonna post here any longer, I've requested to be banned, and you really aren't very good at "running" this forum. And it's silly how you've got the little people here believing just because you give your biased opinions based on nothing but wishful thinking and guesses, that you're some kind of "professional".

    There's no $700k in my safe. It was there for two days. You have to make appointments at BofA when you deposit that kind of cash. But you people wouldn't know anything about that--just like the lie you told when you said my Newell ad was "fake". Easy words, but did you ever actually inquire what they require before they allow an ad for a rig that expensive to be placed? Or was that too hard.

    You want to believe the "prop money" lie max started, so you supported it as if you're some kind of expert. Do you have proof? Of course not. And neither do you have any experience with what the stacks are like when casinos pay you 6 figures. Just guesses and lies. And you "know" my wife would be angry? Really? How long have YOU been married?

    I'm sure you've watched as one envious idiot after another made complete fools out of themselves by desperately trying to "debunk" my VP win....and AGAIN for you. How many times have you tried so hard yourself and failed---and once because Alan did what you couldn't do?

    These guys make me out to be a computer tech genius, even AFTER I told all that my son had to do things I'm unfamiliar with in order to get the file sizes down for some reason. And don't try and sound like an expert at that too. I've always had trouble with that and you know it. He took pictures of the originals. Result: cursors, blue lines, uneven photos. Big deal. Everybody felt stupid when he gave me the originals to post. Bet you felt helpless too.

    And now to your new "IPVanquish" lie. You must think I'm a tech geek too. I've never heard of it. I was using MY SON'S tablet when we were outside CAESARS...or do you want to proclaim my son has always been fake too. And I saw how you tried to cover all your dishonest bases with that rap about "vpns and being in Vegas" or something that makes no sense to me. Are things THAT bad at home for you to have to lie like this? By the way, isn't it curious that NOBODY followed up with the Caesars managers I named. Instead, they, like you, chose to spin everything the "no jackpot!" way.

    Face it and fess up: you and these jealous angry people are never going to admit the truth about this win. It's not in your or their nature when it comes to me. After everything else failed, I predicted the "home machine" BS after the last fiasco fell on its face. Cheap exercise equipment? WTF? But it's possible, considering the spot they set me up in. In fact, how many of you have any experience whatsoever in making a request of casinos to set up a special play for yourselves in return for a promise to put $400,000 on the line? Answer: NONE of you do, because you're too stupid to be able to handle a face-to-face like that to begin with, and you people don't even have that kind of money COMBINED.

    This is why you'll do and say anything to talk yourselves and others into believing " OMG...it just couldn't have happened!" It's also why nothing I say or do can override that desperation.

    You've never been right whenever you tried to lie or spin your way out of my posting my wins, and you're flat out lying about it now. Obviously, deep down along with that annoying little voice in the back of your head, you believe I hit this because there has not been one iota of evidence produced to the contrary. But even if I posted the tax form, just as in the past when I've done that, you will all claim that's fake too. Even if you saw it in person.

    Bottom line: you ought to thank each and every one of the clowns here for contributing to this thread. But AS USUAL, you should be thanking me for helping to continue keeping you and your forum relevant. Evan as you continue to piss your money away on your poker habit.....

  3. #1843
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    This goes for KJ too. KJ has never said a word about maxpen's homophobic content but lashes out at me about it. My side didn't start that shit. His side did. I'm not the one that is going to sit back and honor your request if other members are not doing the same.
    I don't believe this shit. Crimm is mad at me because I don't say anything about this person or that person. When was I elected or given the job of forum police?

    And in the same thought mickeycrimm say "my side" and "your side". That "tribalism" is the root of the problem right there. For the record I am not on any side or any team. I told Tasha that years ago when she mistakenly though I owed her something because she had "stuck up for me". That is not the game I play. MaxPen frequently corrects or disagrees with things I say. But while I don't subscribe to this team or "side" idea, just look at who you are aligned with mickey on this Singer situation. Alan, coach belly and Singer. If we are divided into teams, that is your team?

    Look, any issue I have with mickey stems from one thing. The Rob Singer double-up bug claim. Dan Druff just laid out rather no uncertain terms that Singer is a longtime troll trolling the AP community. Troll after troll, claim after claim. The double up bug was just one of those trolls or claims. Complete BS, no different than the others, except he stole a real story that had been in the news. I am sorry that mickey fell for it, thinking that because Rob had some small piece of information it must be true. As we have just witnessed Dan Druff lay out, Rob will go to all lengths to try to convince people of his trollish narcistic claims. Fake money, fake pictures, fake bill of sale, pictures in a RV in a dealership.

    I don't know where Rob might have come up with the correct sequence, perhaps he discovered it on a machine that he had purchased. Perhaps, he found a machine at some small out of the way casino that had not had "the patch" or fix to that bug yet and figured it out. Perhaps he got a hold of some insider who told him. Perhaps he knew someone involved in the case who told him. But having that information 8 years after the fact in no way proves Rob played or made a dime off the double up bug. Or as Druff said in a previous statement, if he did play it and make any money, it was small amount, on some out of the way machine that he found.

    Anyone, and that includes mickey that seriously believes this claim any more than every other disproven BS claim of Singers, just because they have spoken to Singer on the phone and share some interests with him (political views and other things), is as nuts as he is. I don't really believe mickey is nuts. I think it is like Redietz said, at this point mickey is just incapable of admitting he was wrong or made a mistake.
    Rob Singer / Robert Argentino: Failed Advantage Player, lifelong degenerate losing gambler and now failed gambling forums troll.

  4. #1844
    That cunt Rob never made a dime on video poker during a timeframe where it took miniscule effort to have a decent edge over the house.

  5. #1845
    None of us can afford a 400K go. In fact, combined, we are lacking. Sounds about right. As Wayne and Garth say, "We are not worthy."

    LOL. So I was looking at my Northbet account today, and I have a little more than 1060 in "loyalty dollars." It's a shame I cashed an additional thousand in for free play a couple of months ago, so I can't count that, but today, this moment, I have 1060 in "loyalty dollars."

    The formula, which anyone can see by going to Northbet, is one dollar wagered equals .0025 loyalty dollars. So to accrue a thousand loyalty dollars, one must wager how much? Maybe one of the guys who does math much better than me, like tableplay or mickey, could figure it out.

    A coincidence of math or synchronicity? And that, of course, is a single account from a single poster.

  6. #1846
    A wounded animal, feeling cornered and desperate, lashes out. From Singer's post above, we can see that a wounded troll, acts in the same manner.
    Rob Singer / Robert Argentino: Failed Advantage Player, lifelong degenerate losing gambler and now failed gambling forums troll.

  7. #1847
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Dan you are now a serial liar. I'm not gonna post here any longer, I've requested to be banned, and you really aren't very good at "running" this forum. And it's silly how you've got the little people here believing just because you give your biased opinions based on nothing but wishful thinking and guesses, that you're some kind of "professional".

    There's no $700k in my safe. It was there for two days. You have to make appointments at BofA when you deposit that kind of cash. But you people wouldn't know anything about that--just like the lie you told when you said my Newell ad was "fake". Easy words, but did you ever actually inquire what they require before they allow an ad for a rig that expensive to be placed? Or was that too hard.

    You want to believe the "prop money" lie max started, so you supported it as if you're some kind of expert. Do you have proof? Of course not. And neither do you have any experience with what the stacks are like when casinos pay you 6 figures. Just guesses and lies. And you "know" my wife would be angry? Really? How long have YOU been married?

    I'm sure you've watched as one envious idiot after another made complete fools out of themselves by desperately trying to "debunk" my VP win....and AGAIN for you. How many times have you tried so hard yourself and failed---and once because Alan did what you couldn't do?

    These guys make me out to be a computer tech genius, even AFTER I told all that my son had to do things I'm unfamiliar with in order to get the file sizes down for some reason. And don't try and sound like an expert at that too. I've always had trouble with that and you know it. He took pictures of the originals. Result: cursors, blue lines, uneven photos. Big deal. Everybody felt stupid when he gave me the originals to post. Bet you felt helpless too.

    And now to your new "IPVanquish" lie. You must think I'm a tech geek too. I've never heard of it. I was using MY SON'S tablet when we were outside CAESARS...or do you want to proclaim my son has always been fake too. And I saw how you tried to cover all your dishonest bases with that rap about "vpns and being in Vegas" or something that makes no sense to me. Are things THAT bad at home for you to have to lie like this? By the way, isn't it curious that NOBODY followed up with the Caesars managers I named. Instead, they, like you, chose to spin everything the "no jackpot!" way.

    Face it and fess up: you and these jealous angry people are never going to admit the truth about this win. It's not in your or their nature when it comes to me. After everything else failed, I predicted the "home machine" BS after the last fiasco fell on its face. Cheap exercise equipment? WTF? But it's possible, considering the spot they set me up in. In fact, how many of you have any experience whatsoever in making a request of casinos to set up a special play for yourselves in return for a promise to put $400,000 on the line? Answer: NONE of you do, because you're too stupid to be able to handle a face-to-face like that to begin with, and you people don't even have that kind of money COMBINED.

    This is why you'll do and say anything to talk yourselves and others into believing " OMG...it just couldn't have happened!" It's also why nothing I say or do can override that desperation.

    You've never been right whenever you tried to lie or spin your way out of my posting my wins, and you're flat out lying about it now. Obviously, deep down along with that annoying little voice in the back of your head, you believe I hit this because there has not been one iota of evidence produced to the contrary. But even if I posted the tax form, just as in the past when I've done that, you will all claim that's fake too. Even if you saw it in person.

    Bottom line: you ought to thank each and every one of the clowns here for contributing to this thread. But AS USUAL, you should be thanking me for helping to continue keeping you and your forum relevant. Evan as you continue to piss your money away on your poker habit.....
    Song Reco...


  8. #1848
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    None of us can afford a 400K go.
    Speak for yourself. I could, but I'm not stupid enough to do so.

  9. #1849
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    None of us can afford a 400K go.
    Speak for yourself. I could, but I'm not stupid enough to do so.
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    None of us can afford a 400K go!? In fact, combined, we are lacking? Sounds about right! As Wayne and Garth say, "We are not worthy."
    You read that wrong because the sentences had the wrong punctuation but notice how redietz was very careful to put the quotes outside the period.
    That's the proper English way.
    Not the Stupid Canadian way.
    I fixed Red's Quote.

  10. #1850
    Let's not get into any pissing contests about who has or doesn't have 400k. I suspect most of the AP's on this forum, have or could get 400k.

    The bigger takeaway from this goofy story of Rob's is only some very wealthy dude, that has the need to burn money or a complete degenerate gambler would consider burning through 400k with a goal of hitting a 250k jackpot. And despites some of his other lies, Singer is not a wealthy dude or even close.

    But he is a degenerate gambler. And that he even came up with this as part of this particular troll attempt, clearly shows he has the mindset of a degenerate gambler because he is one and has always been one.
    Rob Singer / Robert Argentino: Failed Advantage Player, lifelong degenerate losing gambler and now failed gambling forums troll.

  11. #1851
    I just want someone to duplicate a picture of white hundo's like in Rob's Picture.
    I've been trying with my C-Notes but I can't get the lighting right.
    And I can't get the hundreds to get flat enough.
    Fuckers won't stay down no matter how much I iron them.
    And I'm not very tech savvy but when I take a picture of anything and post it to this site it takes about 10 seconds to resize it.
    But I'm faking all my pictures anyways, so there is that.
    It's hard borrowing my neighbors Ford 250 Super Duty to get those pictures, that is why you haven't seen me upload any recently.

  12. #1852
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    But he is a degenerate gambler.
    #MeToo

  13. #1853
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I just want someone to duplicate a picture of white hundo's like in Rob's Picture.
    I've been trying with my C-Notes but I can't get the lighting right.
    And I can't get the hundreds to get flat enough.
    To see a duplicate of those "white hundos" all you have to do is log on to Amazon and type in fake money. You will see many pictures of stacks that look identical.

    Well....with the exception of the single real hundred dollar bill that Rob put on top. The effect he was going for backfired completely as that single real bill looks out of place. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
    Rob Singer / Robert Argentino: Failed Advantage Player, lifelong degenerate losing gambler and now failed gambling forums troll.

  14. #1854
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    To see a duplicate of those "white hundos" all you have to do is log on to Amazon and type in fake money. You will see many pictures of stacks that look identical.

    Well....with the exception of the single real hundred dollar bill that Rob put on top. The effect he was going for backfired completely as that single real bill looks out of place. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
    Sounds like cheating.
    Rob says that money is real.
    I'm trying to duplicate the look with my real money.
    It's hard.

  15. #1855
    The secret to success is quitting while you’re ahead or quitting while you’re behind, especially at some arbitrary preselected number.

  16. #1856
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I just want someone to duplicate a picture of white hundo's like in Rob's Picture.
    I've been trying with my C-Notes but I can't get the lighting right.
    And I can't get the hundreds to get flat enough.
    Fuckers won't stay down no matter how much I iron them.
    And I'm not very tech savvy but when I take a picture of anything and post it to this site it takes about 10 seconds to resize it.
    But I'm faking all my pictures anyways, so there is that.
    It's hard borrowing my neighbors Ford 250 Super Duty to get those pictures, that is why you haven't seen me upload any recently.

    White C-notes, monet -- either (1) Hi-Gloss enamel from Benjamin Moore, but gently, man, gently, or (2) Dip them in a shitload of cocaine over and over. You put them in enough cocaine, that Treasury Department green wears right off.

  17. #1857
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    This goes for KJ too. KJ has never said a word about maxpen's homophobic content but lashes out at me about it. My side didn't start that shit. His side did. I'm not the one that is going to sit back and honor your request if other members are not doing the same.

    Look, any issue I have with mickey stems from one thing. The Rob Singer double-up bug claim. Dan Druff just laid out rather no uncertain terms that Singer is a longtime troll trolling the AP community. Troll after troll, claim after claim. The double up bug was just one of those trolls or claims. Complete BS, no different than the others, except he stole a real story that had been in the news. I am sorry that mickey fell for it, thinking that because Rob had some small piece of information it must be true. As we have just witnessed Dan Druff lay out, Rob will go to all lengths to try to convince people of his trollish narcistic claims. Fake money, fake pictures, fake bill of sale, pictures in a RV in a dealership.

    I am familiar with Singers BS claim that he played the Double Up bug.

    I am curious, what piece of information did Singer have that he was able to convince Mickey that he did play the DU bug?

    Outside of what was in the Wired article, and later on other news sources, any additional “steps” he added to the procedure, wouldn’t be able to be verified, correct?
    Last edited by PositiveVariance; 06-16-2022 at 11:37 AM.

  18. #1858
    Coach belly and Alan must be at mass or something. You'd think they'd have some comments on Dan Druff's totally unexpected conclusions.

    Personally, the 20K tip was the giveaway for me. Rob may have won 1.5 mil, but there was no way he tipped 20K. Not even in pesos.

  19. #1859
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Coach belly and Alan must be at mass or something. You'd think they'd have some comments on Dan Druff's totally unexpected conclusions.

    Personally, the 20K tip was the giveaway for me. Rob may have won 1.5 mil, but there was no way he tipped 20K. Not even in pesos.
    In the end, this is the only thing that matters.
    Never give the Extortion Crew 20 dimes... EVER!

  20. #1860
    Here's the solution -- Dan says he's in LV right now. So am I, until tonight at 11 when we leave for Maine.

    I'll meet him at the casino where I hit this, and they'll confirm the whole ball of wax as they say,which will put an end to you people all making yourselves continuing to look foolish over all the stupid excuses posted of why you have such a driving need to say everything's "fake" including the $120,000 in REAL money I always keep in the bottom of my safe. You DO realize how much you're all embarrassing yourselves over that, correct? I'll be happy to keep reminding you of it.

    I'm available at 7pm-10pm. Dan has my number, but if he no longer has it he can let me know by contacting me at GVR. The one stipulation: he has to promise not to publicly identify the name of the casino, as well as agree to anything else the hi -limit room may ask him to agree not to divulge. And no, my wife will NOT be "angry" if I left for 3 hours. She knows what's going on, and she is laughing at every one of you. She's also come up with a pretty good idea that I'm contemplating.

    I can already hear it---"Rob probably went into some casino and paid someone to support his claim!" I expect Dan would be able to tell if that's the case.

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