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Thread: When Weakness Prevails, Show Them The Meaning of Strength

  1. #2501
    Originally Posted by Garnabby View Post
    That was an easy one. Ha. First readable anagram answer ...


    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I don't think they understand or care. Many times I have talked to them about something and nothing ever happens.
    ---> I'd Rather Shout at a Returning Echo than Kid That Someone's Listening.

    https://anagram-solver.net/I%20don%2....?partial=true


    Anyway, philosophically speaking, who really or actually listens to anything. Ie, it may be a universal phenomenon that no one listens to anyone, that everything is one big message board. That only the anagrams exist.
    Didn't read your post but quoted in case of delete.

  2. #2502
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Most places will "abandon" the inserted card after a certain amount of time with no play. This even happens while legitimately playing some games like China Shores and get stuck in a super long bonus round with hundreds of free spins.
    This probably happened to you at the place you were going for the 750s. The card times out quick there.

    But they also have a dead period in their gaming day that can be exploited. A big shot like you probably already knows that
    Last edited by Seedvalue; 06-27-2022 at 09:54 AM.

  3. #2503
    Originally Posted by Garnabby View Post
    Not a bad response, but, here's an even better one. First readable answer ...

    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Didn't read your post but quoted in case of delete.
    ---> Candidates for Speedy Deletion.

    https://anagram-solver.net/Didn%27t%...0?partial=true
    ....

  4. #2504
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Most places will "abandon" the inserted card after a certain amount of time with no play. This even happens while legitimately playing some games like China Shores and get stuck in a super long bonus round with hundreds of free spins.
    That was my point.
    I don't understand how they are doing it.
    The card reader is locked and never resets or abandons in the machines I have recently seen.
    Perhaps a fluke or glitch... perhaps not and it was intentional.
    I'm not sure.
    Just something I recently have seen.
    I've also seen multiple teams running around as fast as they can with ear pieces in and constantly talking to their other teammates or manager.
    I can't keep up and don't really want to.

    Probably running a slot team or building cards. Often you will have a spotter running the floor looking for breakeven or positive plays to run coin in.

  5. #2505
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Cheaters are fascinating, clever people - but, as you know, they'll throw you under a bus without batting an eye and everything that comes out of their mouth is an angle - it is almost impossible to become friends with people like that.
    I think it depends.
    I think the movie The Sting shows how some cheaters are different compared to others.
    I'd team up with Paul and Redford.
    Robert Shaw is way too good of an actor to of had to accept the role of the mark.
    One of the best poker scenes in movie history...

    He slow rolled him with the trip tens and needled him as he dragged the pot lol lol lol.

  6. #2506
    Some of the most lucrative opportunities I have found involved glitches in player tracking.

    Lose rebates combined with dodgy player tracking is a goldmine

  7. #2507
    Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post

    Sounds Familiar.
    When Player Cards first started to come out some players would break them off in the machine and accumulate that way.
    Very Crude compared to your example but still effective.
    I have recently seen some machines stuck on a players card with no card in the machine and it never resets.
    Odd.
    Damn Sharpies!
    If you ain't cheating you ain't trying!
    This is funny because I was at a place noted for great offers on new cards and twice in the same day I put my card into different machines and no matter what I did it keep registering a different persons name even w no card lol. Now I know why.
    I am curious if these methods of cloning the strip would even work in the short run, forget about the long run. As soon as someone notices that someone elseís card is reading on the machine, they are going to notify the casino. The first thing the player is going to think of is ďhow long has it been giving someone else credit for my playĒ? The casino will immediately investigate and find the issue. And itís not like they donít know which card to kill, they have the name right there. Then they are obviously going to check the cameras and know what culprit to trespass. So you would have to use someone where thatís all they would do, they couldnít be involved in other aspects of the multicard operation.

    The only option I can see is in the high limit area. You place the cloned card in several high limit machines, the key would be to stay in the high limit area as people play on those machines. As soon as someone notices there name is not displayed, they will notify the casino. When they walk away, you pull the cloned strip, so when the casino personnel return to investigate they see no issue, and there would be no card to kill. If a person plays $100 per spin for an hour at an 8% theoretical- they leave, you then pull the cloned strip. The massive coin in on reel slots makes itís a good day.

    Maybe itís one of those things you only need it to work once in a while to be successful.

    Overall seems like a tough gig, as well as illegal.

    Something else I donít get about this play is how does one stop the process? Like I would not want my card to be reading multiple days if I was doing mail run. I would need it to end sometime that day. The comps you earn are worthless in most palaces these days. Shitty merchandise and two to one conversion.

  8. #2508
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Most places will "abandon" the inserted card after a certain amount of time with no play. This even happens while legitimately playing some games like China Shores and get stuck in a super long bonus round with hundreds of free spins.
    This probably happened to you at the place you were going for the 750s. The card times out quick there.

    But they also have a dead period in their gaming day that can be exploited. A big shot like you probably already knows that
    I'd say a lot of places the card times out or abandon after about 20-30 minutes.

  9. #2509
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post

    This is funny because I was at a place noted for great offers on new cards and twice in the same day I put my card into different machines and no matter what I did it keep registering a different persons name even w no card lol. Now I know why.
    I am curious if these methods of cloning the strip would even work in the short run, forget about the long run. As soon as someone notices that someone else’s card is reading on the machine, they are going to notify the casino. The first thing the player is going to think of is “how long has it been giving someone else credit for my play”? The casino will immediately investigate and find the issue. And it’s not like they don’t know which card to kill, they have the name right there. Then they are obviously going to check the cameras and know what culprit to trespass. So you would have to use someone where that’s all they would do, they couldn’t be involved in other aspects of the multicard operation.

    The only option I can see is in the high limit area. You place the cloned card in several high limit machines, the key would be to stay in the high limit area as people play on those machines. As soon as someone notices there name is not displayed, they will notify the casino. When they walk away, you pull the cloned strip, so when the casino personnel return to investigate they see no issue, and there would be no card to kill. If a person plays $100 per spin for an hour at an 8% theoretical- they leave, you then pull the cloned strip. The massive coin in on reel slots makes it’s a good day.

    Maybe it’s one of those things you only need it to work once in a while to be successful.

    Overall seems like a tough gig, as well as illegal.

    Something else I don’t get about this play is how does one stop the process? Like I would not want my card to be reading multiple days if I was doing mail run. I would need it to end sometime that day. The comps you earn are worthless in most palaces these days. Shitty merchandise and two to one conversion.
    Never mind i see you can just pull the strip out

  10. #2510
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Most places will "abandon" the inserted card after a certain amount of time with no play. This even happens while legitimately playing some games like China Shores and get stuck in a super long bonus round with hundreds of free spins.
    This probably happened to you at the place you were going for the 750s. The card times out quick there.

    But they also have a dead period in their gaming day that can be exploited. A big shot like you probably already knows that
    I'd say a lot of places the card times out or abandon after about 20-30 minutes.
    Yes
    Your money would time out faster then that playing china shores

  11. #2511
    The LP play would work well in shops that require a certain amount of timed gaming activity to keep offers.
    Pop in your LP then go about your day. Still highly illegal and would definitely result in arrest if they catch you

  12. #2512
    Robert Shaw should stay off of trains...






  13. #2513
    Even when he takes the train it doesn't work out well for him...


  14. #2514
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Cheaters are fascinating, clever people - but, as you know, they'll throw you under a bus without batting an eye and everything that comes out of their mouth is an angle - it is almost impossible to become friends with people like that.
    I think it depends.
    I think the movie The Sting shows how some cheaters are different compared to others.
    I'd team up with Paul and Redford.
    Robert Shaw is way too good of an actor to of had to accept the role of the mark.
    One of the best poker scenes in movie history...

    Great scene.
    I always liked Robert Shawís work. He did a pirate movie in the mid 70ís, Swashbuckler, that was good if you havenít seen it.

  15. #2515
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post

    This probably happened to you at the place you were going for the 750s. The card times out quick there.

    But they also have a dead period in their gaming day that can be exploited. A big shot like you probably already knows that
    I'd say a lot of places the card times out or abandon after about 20-30 minutes.
    Yes
    Your money would time out faster then that playing china shores
    I just used that game as an example as it sometimes triggers 300+ free games with regular retriggers. I've seen the civilians get bonus rounds lasting well over an hour.

  16. #2516
    Originally Posted by dannyj View Post
    Great scene.
    I always liked Robert Shaw’s work. He did a pirate movie in the mid 70’s, Swashbuckler, that was good if you haven’t seen it.
    Swashbuckler?
    I'll have to watch it again.
    Here he is finally winning on a train...


  17. #2517
    Ok... A Robert Shaw Train movie I haven't seen.
    We get Lee Marvin as a bonus.
    Pretty good bonus.
    Notice the use of stills in this trailer.


  18. #2518
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post

    This is funny because I was at a place noted for great offers on new cards and twice in the same day I put my card into different machines and no matter what I did it keep registering a different persons name even w no card lol. Now I know why.
    I am curious if these methods of cloning the strip would even work in the short run, forget about the long run. As soon as someone notices that someone else’s card is reading on the machine, they are going to notify the casino. The first thing the player is going to think of is “how long has it been giving someone else credit for my play”? The casino will immediately investigate and find the issue. And it’s not like they don’t know which card to kill, they have the name right there. Then they are obviously going to check the cameras and know what culprit to trespass. So you would have to use someone where that’s all they would do, they couldn’t be involved in other aspects of the multicard operation.

    The only option I can see is in the high limit area. You place the cloned card in several high limit machines, the key would be to stay in the high limit area as people play on those machines. As soon as someone notices there name is not displayed, they will notify the casino. When they walk away, you pull the cloned strip, so when the casino personnel return to investigate they see no issue, and there would be no card to kill. If a person plays $100 per spin for an hour at an 8% theoretical- they leave, you then pull the cloned strip. The massive coin in on reel slots makes it’s a good day.

    Maybe it’s one of those things you only need it to work once in a while to be successful.

    Overall seems like a tough gig, as well as illegal.

    Something else I don’t get about this play is how does one stop the process? Like I would not want my card to be reading multiple days if I was doing mail run. I would need it to end sometime that day. The comps you earn are worthless in most palaces these days. Shitty merchandise and two to one conversion.
    I assume the card reader might reset after they do the daily drop

  19. #2519

  20. #2520
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post

    This probably happened to you at the place you were going for the 750s. The card times out quick there.

    But they also have a dead period in their gaming day that can be exploited. A big shot like you probably already knows that
    I'd say a lot of places the card times out or abandon after about 20-30 minutes.
    Yes
    Your money would time out faster then that playing china shores
    At most places your card times out, but I have seen places where your card does not time out at all.

    Guess it depends on the shop.

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