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  1. #961
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    It just cracks me up that LadyCrimm's argument is that if Singer had shown up and proved his claim, MaxPen wouldn't have paid him. Singer didn't show!
    End of discussion.
    You know how those lady boys are.
    How do you know Rob didnt show up? Please, evidence. And don't give me the "max was there" routine. The pics don't prove he didn't haul ass when he seen Rob. Goddam, KJ, I thought you had at least a little intelligence. max is a hustler that damn sure knows how to angle shoot the situation. And now he's slinging any mud he can hoping something sticks. He's a slug punk. And YOU allied yourself with him. Fuck both you maggots.
    Keep your girdle on ma'am.

    Singer announced he wasn't showing when he announced he was heading back to Phoenix at 10:28am. At that moment....game over.

    Now I dont believe he was ever anywhere even near Las Vegas. And since Singer has already given Dan permission to reveal that information....lets start with that.

  2. #962
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Monet, if you're betting parlays, nobody's going to do much data mining of you, so I wouldn't worry about staying under radar. Player tracking can always be buried by shooting for middles with big-ass wagers, if you know what you're doing. Are you saying you don't want to be tracked at all, so you use cash and are anonymous at the kiosks, or are you saying that you don't want to be tracked in terms of which teams you take?

    You know, it's funny. If they're trying to data mine you, and you shoot for big middles, management is confronted with whether they should employ the counter-idea of ignoring your biggest wagers and only analyzing your smaller wagers, which on the face of it makes no sense at all, especially to suits.
    I don't know and I'm out of my depth.
    What I do know is that any wager 1000 dollars or more will be refused without a players card in most joints these days.
    But at the Kiosk you can pound it for certain amounts without any problems, ever, so far.
    Any ticket that you cash 3000 dollars or more and they will ask for a players card or some form of ID but you could decline which might get you into a bit of a war, maybe.
    Like I have said and you said, parlays... they don't give a shit.
    The days of betting 9,999 dollars or less all over town have been gone for some time.
    Personally, I don't like dealing with suits and especially in the book.
    I want to make my bets and have them take my bets and pay me in an orderly fashion when I win.
    As I keep saying... I'm not a professional... I'm a gambler and sometimes they are prejudice towards people gambling.
    2 Team Parlays are in more of a winning position than you like to admit.
    I know because they refuse many of my 2 Team Parlays many times.
    Or they get scared and cap me but they never cap me at the kiosk.
    It's just that it's a lot of tickets sometimes.
    They know that many times a 2 team Parlay has the edge.
    But as usual, I'm wrong... Do Not Bet Parlays.
    Last edited by monet; 06-03-2022 at 02:35 PM.

  3. #963
    [QUOTE=mickeycrimm;144659]
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Occasionally, I gave detailed recommendations on this site. For example, I did a piece about how to shop for futures in Las Vegas given the past tendencies of the sports books and their locations. I even gave a step by step, where to park so as to get these numbers in particular sequences, which books were must-checks, which were you really should, and which were if you have time. My main thing is to tell people what NOT to do, like betting parlays. The first time I mentioned what I've done for a living was after Rob.Singer went on a sports betting spiel where he gave really bad advice. I had posted 2500 times previously without mentioning what I do.

    Back in the day when Alan ran this forum, I talked about value for meals, which coffee shops and buffets to frequent, which to avoid. That was the kind of stuff I found so valuable back when LVA had an active, knowledgeable forum. I got a kick out of people assuming I was a low roller because I'd review buffets, coffee shops, and moderately priced casino rooms. Of course, these are the things Anthony Curtis and Dancer were also writing about. I actually learned useful things about slot programs and comps from Alan and how things worked. My first 15 years in LV, I relied on informal comp scrip for meals and such. When that started to die out, LVA and here were useful to me.

    Now I don't bother to give detailed help unless someone specifically asks, like mickey crimm asked about how to do the sports book sign-up rebates on initial loss. I actually have a somewhat obvious strategy for Diamond in a Day that I have surprisingly never seen in print. If people were halfway civil, I would have shared it. But people can kiss my ass. It's funny from my perspective how clueless the posters are in terms of sports betting, which is the hottest nationally growing form of gambling and which will eventually overtake all other forms. Am I going to share anything useful here? Ten years ago, I would have spilled the beans on everything. Now I won't share anything. It's the ubiquitous incivility.

    For example, I have never said one negative thing about mickey crimm's lifestyle, personal history, or choices on how to lead an authentic existence. In this thread alone, he's gone with I washed out of journalism and my girlfriend is toothless. What a class act. I mean, who needs this garbage? If he said it to my face, I'd either tase him or blow his head off, depending on my mood.
    Let's see. Since you are reporting Rob to the Nevada Attorney General turnabout is fairplay. What's the name of the Tennessee Attorney General? You just made a death threat. Or should I go to the FBI?
    What's that line we hear and read just about everywhere these days.....IF YOU SEE OR HEAR SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING?

    This little old sissy AQ crys and whimpers like a big baby about my VP jackpot, but after watching redietz become the first lose his shit over it, max & kew may not be far behind. There's a lot of talk about how mental health issues affect a lot of people far more than anyone actually realizes. Unexpectedly, the level of "infuriation" depicted by this "squad" over my win appears to have made these people rise to the level of being red-flagged, and appropriately reported as such. Nothing may come out of it, but the whole point is "Better To Be Safe Than Sorry," and, "If only one incident can be stopped then a lot of people will be very, very thankful".

    I'm now wondering if it's the right decision to post the tax form before we leave. It very well may put someone over the edge.

    You people are sick. And all because of an extraordinary amount of Rob Singer jackpot envy.

  4. #964
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
    Let's see. Since you are reporting Rob to the Nevada Attorney General turnabout is fairplay. What's the name of the Tennessee Attorney General? You just made a death threat. Or should I go to the FBI?
    Here ya go...

    (615) 741-3761.
    herbert.slatery@tn.gov.
    What, Me Worry?

  5. #965
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Monet, if you're betting parlays, nobody's going to do much data mining of you, so I wouldn't worry about staying under radar. Player tracking can always be buried by shooting for middles with big-ass wagers, if you know what you're doing. Are you saying you don't want to be tracked at all, so you use cash and are anonymous at the kiosks, or are you saying that you don't want to be tracked in terms of which teams you take?

    You know, it's funny. If they're trying to data mine you, and you shoot for big middles, management is confronted with whether they should employ the counter-idea of ignoring your biggest wagers and only analyzing your smaller wagers, which on the face of it makes no sense at all, especially to suits.
    I don't know and I'm out of my depth.
    What I do know is that any wager 1000 dollars or more will be refused without a players card in most joints these days.
    But at the Kiosk you can pound it for certain amounts without any problems, ever, so far.
    Any ticket that you cash 3000 dollars or more and they will ask for a players card or some form of ID but you could decline which might get you into a bit of a war, maybe.
    Like I have said and you said, parlays... they don't give a shit.
    The days of betting 9,999 dollars or less all over town have been gone for some time.
    Personally, I don't like dealing with suits and especially in the book.
    I want to make my bets and have them take my bets and pay me in an orderly fashion when I win.
    As I keep saying... I'm not a professional... I'm a gambler and sometimes they are prejudice towards people gambling.
    2 Team Parlays are in more of a winning position than you like to admit.
    I know because they refuse many of my 2 Team Parlays many times.
    They know that many times a 2 team Parlay has the edge.
    The way to put them on the spot is to directly ask at the window what their limits are. At one time, limits were clearly posted for each sport. Now they are not. Asking what the limits are puts them in a bind. They don't know if you're some slot-playing moron or one of Billy Walters' new beards. If you refuse to give them a player's card, they don't know whether they should kiss your ass or not.

  6. #966
    is there any doubt that Old Lady Crimm has lost her/his/they/them mind?........RIP

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    Last edited by MaxPen; 06-03-2022 at 02:53 PM.
    FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP

  7. #967
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
    Let's see. Since you are reporting Rob to the Nevada Attorney General turnabout is fairplay. What's the name of the Tennessee Attorney General? You just made a death threat. Or should I go to the FBI?
    Here ya go...

    (615) 741-3761.
    herbert.slatery@tn.gov.


    Someone should turn in the Kewlj for posting on this forum he considered going after mdawg with a gun. He’s clearly unstable and dangerous borderline insane. I think he needs to be turned in and data based as dangerous to protect the casino patrons. Just look at his hateful post

  8. #968
    We’ve got some real internet tough guy cowboys around here. I imagine Zenking must be on some sort of watch list for potential hate crimes against Native Americans by now.

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  10. #970
    If you have to start calling the FBI, State's Attorneys, or any law enforcement it may be time to step away for a bit......lol

    Although,,, maybe someone should call Camp Peary and let them know one of their own has lost his mind
    FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP

  11. #971
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Fuck both you maggots.

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    FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP

  12. #972
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    The way to put them on the spot is to directly ask at the window what their limits are. At one time, limits were clearly posted for each sport. Now they are not. Asking what the limits are puts them in a bind. They don't know if you're some slot-playing moron or one of Billy Walters' new beards. If you refuse to give them a player's card, they don't know whether they should kiss your ass or not.
    I disagree and this response sort of signals to me that your free lessons are done for the day.
    But I'll play along a little bit.
    Example... Ask this question at Sam's Town and the Manager will say something like: "tell us how much you want to bet and we will tell you if we will take the wager."
    Now ask this same question at Circa and the response will be something like this: "What are you thinking... do you want to bet 100k?"

  13. #973
    Thanks tableplay... Chicken or Feathers... I'll be looking out for it!

  14. #974
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Thanks, tableplay. I have a couple of stories regarding Mr. Walters. He recruited me for the 2002 college football season. I had some interesting interactions with his assistants that were less than stellar. Mr. Walters himself was always polite and such with me. He recruited me based on recommendations coming from the Playbook offices and from the legendary Southern Comfort (aka Larry Fletcher, the only sports gambler who I actually believe did not ever have a losing calendar year).

    If I ever write some biography, I'll go into more detail. It was a fascinating experience. I got off to a minus 50 unit start, which is absolutely terrible and the second worst I've ever had. Then my wife died November 1st, I won 10 out of 11 games that Saturday, and I had one losing week after that up until the end of the season. So I wound up making 50-some units for the year, which is hard to do because when I lose, I pull back and bet less.

  15. #975
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Thanks tableplay... Chicken or Feathers... I'll be looking out for it!
    No problem Monet. I have not seen the interview yet (I put it in my youtube viewing queue after today's podcast of Americas Untold Stories), so I cannot comment on it or reco it. Yesterday's GWAE podcast had another sports better on, but I didn't reco it because it was just anecdotes (runners who absconded with bets they were supposed to lay down for the boss, etc.) from the interviewee rather than techniques and methodologies for +EV sports betting.

  16. #976
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Thanks, tableplay. I have a couple of stories regarding Mr. Walters. He recruited me for the 2002 college football season. I had some interesting interactions with his assistants that were less than stellar. Mr. Walters himself was always polite and such with me. He recruited me based on recommendations coming from the Playbook offices and from the legendary Southern Comfort (aka Larry Fletcher, the only sports gambler who I actually believe did not ever have a losing calendar year).

    If I ever write some biography, I'll go into more detail. It was a fascinating experience. I got off to a minus 50 unit start, which is absolutely terrible and the second worst I've ever had. Then my wife died November 1st, I won 10 out of 11 games that Saturday, and I had one losing week after that up until the end of the season. So I wound up making 50-some units for the year, which is hard to do because when I lose, I pull back and bet less.
    No problem. I haven't seen the podcast yet (see my cross-post to Monet for more detail), but I have linked to it since it is on topic for this thread and because I am going to view it shortly.

  17. #977
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    The way to put them on the spot is to directly ask at the window what their limits are. At one time, limits were clearly posted for each sport. Now they are not. Asking what the limits are puts them in a bind. They don't know if you're some slot-playing moron or one of Billy Walters' new beards. If you refuse to give them a player's card, they don't know whether they should kiss your ass or not.
    I disagree and this response sort of signals to me that your free lessons are done for the day.
    But I'll play along a little bit.
    Example... Ask this question at Sam's Town and the Manager will say something like: "tell us how much you want to bet and we will tell you if we will take the wager."
    Now ask this same question at Circa and the response will be something like this: "What are you thinking... do you want to bet 100k?"
    Circa does it like it's supposed to be done. The question when you ask about limits shouldn't be a debate, it's how much do you have? That was what Binions was like in the 80's and 90's. And the Mirage when it opened. The Stardust, for example, had limits posted up on their boards -- 20K NFL, 10K college. Of course, you could negotiate beyond that, but those were the publicly stated limits. The saddest thing is Caesars Palace, as an independent, had really high limits. But when they became part of CET, which meant the betting pool was actually larger and limits should have been higher, Caesars Palace reduced their limits.

    Pre-Mirage, little Binions took as much action as any sports book in Las Vegas.

    I have not been in Circa yet. I made some bets before they opened at their satellites, and they had the best futures for multiple sports. As you said, they would be the first stop for futures shopping right now.

  18. #978
    Toothless girlfriend. That brings back a lot of forum memories ! Or was it toothless mother ?

  19. #979
    Everyone pronounces Circa wrong... I pronounce it correctly... CHURKA not SIRCA.
    I don't care what the owners or anyone else says... it's CHURKA.
    Last edited by monet; 06-03-2022 at 04:00 PM.

  20. #980
    See Billy understands... those prop bets are bullshit... Fuck what Mike says.
    I hate them because guys will bet 25, five dollar prop bets on the Super Bowl holding up the window.

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