When Weakness Prevails, Show Them The Meaning of Strength

[redietz]

Speaking of video we need to get Alan Mendelson back in the thread. He's the only legitimate newsman here. (Yes, I know. Redietz' cousin has a girlfriend who's nephew was a janitor in a newsroom so red knows all about it). But Red lives in a treehouse with no electricity or running water in a holler in Tennessee. To far away.

An interview should be in order. Alan should have exclusive rights to interview Rob. Since Rob worked the double up bug for about 3 mil and also made this all time record 1.5 mil hit on UX....that should make him:

THE WORLDS GREATEST VIDEO POKER PLAYER OF ALL TIME.

I think everyone here will be in agreement on that. Everyone should be proud that one of our own VCT members achieved such an accomplishment.

And it would put a big feather in Alan's hat for nailing the exclusive interview.

I think you're on to something there. The Tuesday South Point Showdown could be bigger than Evil Knievel's grand canyon rocket jump. I think there are a couple of things that need a little clarification.

1. Maybe I missed it but I see all this talk about a South Point Showdown on Tuesday that both participants have agreed to, but I don't seem to see an agreed upon time. That's a little weird. One would think both of these high rolling gamblers would want to nail down that little detail or it gives the other one an out. "I was there! Right at 8:00 AM!" "Well I was there at 1:00 PM..Where were you?". Seems like High Noon would be appropriate.

2. One participant claims to have placed a lot of money 'in escrow' with a semi-famous Las Vegas attorney. The other participant doesn't claim to have made a similar deposit, but doesn't seem opposed to it. It seems like MaxPen should at least attempt to contact attorney Robert Nersesian to determine if in fact he is holding money for Singer and what the exact terms of this escrow are. That conversation alone would tell us a lot about the likelihood of the showdown happening.

Other than the facts that neither party knows exactly when the other will actually be at South Point and they haven't agreed to the exact terms of this 'escrow' that one claims to have already completed, I just don't see how this can go wrong. There's plenty of time to work out the details.

The problem is Rob throws so much bullshit that people don't remember what's going on. It's noon at the Silverado Bar at Southpoint. I will be there.

Alan, bring your reporting self. We can have a good laugh at your good old buddy that literally torched you on these forums in the past when he doesn't show up. Let alone with $700k in a bag. I will buy you lunch. Along with anyone else who wants to show up. I already know what you look like. So I will find you.

I will be there. The question is who else will be?

Damn, you're killing me. I wanna be there. No chance, though. Priceline doesn't allow you to take stabs at cut rate tickets at the last moment anymore.

You know, something just occurred to me.

[MaxPen]

Speaking of video we need to get Alan Mendelson back in the thread. He's the only legitimate newsman here. (Yes, I know. Redietz' cousin has a girlfriend who's nephew was a janitor in a newsroom so red knows all about it). But Red lives in a treehouse with no electricity or running water in a holler in Tennessee. To far away.

An interview should be in order. Alan should have exclusive rights to interview Rob. Since Rob worked the double up bug for about 3 mil and also made this all time record 1.5 mil hit on UX....that should make him:

THE WORLDS GREATEST VIDEO POKER PLAYER OF ALL TIME.

I think everyone here will be in agreement on that. Everyone should be proud that one of our own VCT members achieved such an accomplishment.

And it would put a big feather in Alan's hat for nailing the exclusive interview.

I would love to do this.

You're hired to do the interview. You get paid when Rob shows up to Southpoint with $700k of real money with his son. Is $2500 enough for such a qualified reporter as yourself?

[jdaewoo]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Everyone on this forum understands this except 18 yo man and coach cunt.

[MaxPen]

I think you're on to something there. The Tuesday South Point Showdown could be bigger than Evil Knievel's grand canyon rocket jump. I think there are a couple of things that need a little clarification.

1. Maybe I missed it but I see all this talk about a South Point Showdown on Tuesday that both participants have agreed to, but I don't seem to see an agreed upon time. That's a little weird. One would think both of these high rolling gamblers would want to nail down that little detail or it gives the other one an out. "I was there! Right at 8:00 AM!" "Well I was there at 1:00 PM..Where were you?". Seems like High Noon would be appropriate.

2. One participant claims to have placed a lot of money 'in escrow' with a semi-famous Las Vegas attorney. The other participant doesn't claim to have made a similar deposit, but doesn't seem opposed to it. It seems like MaxPen should at least attempt to contact attorney Robert Nersesian to determine if in fact he is holding money for Singer and what the exact terms of this escrow are. That conversation alone would tell us a lot about the likelihood of the showdown happening.

Other than the facts that neither party knows exactly when the other will actually be at South Point and they haven't agreed to the exact terms of this 'escrow' that one claims to have already completed, I just don't see how this can go wrong. There's plenty of time to work out the details.

The problem is Rob throws so much bullshit that people don't remember what's going on. It's noon at the Silverado Bar at Southpoint. I will be there.

Alan, bring your reporting self. We can have a good laugh at your good old buddy that literally torched you on these forums in the past when he doesn't show up. Let alone with $700k in a bag. I will buy you lunch. Along with anyone else who wants to show up. I already know what you look like. So I will find you.

I will be there. The question is who else will be?

Damn, you're killing me. I wanna be there. No chance, though. Priceline doesn't allow you to take stabs at cut rate tickets at the last moment anymore.

You know, something just occurred to me.

A few hundred bucks on a ticket shouldn't be in the way. You get out here and I will reimburse you at the bar when Rob shows with his son and the $700k. If you need a room or whatever I can arrange that and give the keys at the bar too.

[MaxPen]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Everyone on this forum understands this except 18 yo man and coach cunt.

You left out the man serving hobo.

[Garnabby]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Everyone on this forum understands this except 18 yo man and coach cunt.

---> Department of Industry, Innovation, Science, Research and Tertiary Education.

https://anagram-solver.net/%20%20%20...0?partial=true


Secret VCT codeword, RIP ... +

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Everyone on this forum understands this except 18 yo man and coach cunt.

---> Overactive disorder associated with mental retardation and stereotyped movements.

https://anagram-solver.net/%20%20%20...0?partial=true


P.S. No one here with even half a brain?

Tablepooey, the guy who doesn't know that the next ice age will be delayed by at least 50,000 years because of global warming?

[Garnabby]

You left out the man serving hobo.

--->

Heaven Belongs to "You Tour".
Theory of Human Evolution.
Are You Lonesome Tonight.
The Big House (tournament).

https://anagram-solver.net/You%20lef...0?partial=true


Secret VCT codeword, RIP +

You left out the man serving hobo.

--->

Centre for Health Promotion Studies.
Crime Of The Century (Doctor Who audio).
Every Child Counts- Education reform.
Get To The River Before It Runs Too Low.
Into The Depths Of Sorrow, Album Cover.

https://anagram-solver.net/secret%20...0?partial=true

[kewlJ]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Everyone on this forum understands this except 18 yo man and coach cunt.

THIS!! I was just about to post something along these lines, although more detailed (surprise, surprise), and think I still will

On gambling forums and in the gambling community there are basically two kinds of claims. Those supported by math and those that defy math. Advantage play, no matter what it is, machine right down to lowly card counting is about finding some advantage, something that makes the long-term return greater than 100% and then putting in enough trials (and money) to overcome any short-term variance and realize that expected return. Anyone doing this need not prove anything. The math proves it. If you put in enough trial and put through enough money and don't win, that is what would need an explanation. Winning with an advantage need no explanation. It is routine and supported by the math.

Now the second type claim is your 18 y.o in a row, or this claim by Rob of dealt 3's with a kicker on a 10 play machine with a multiplier, or the claim by Mdog of 50 consecutive blackjack wins in a row, which shown the math he later retracted. These claims are not only not supported by the math, they DEFY the math. Now that doesn't mean they are impossible. By they are outcomes that are 1 in billions, sometimes 1 in trillion chances.

Now Rob is using a loophole that someone like me, has said, routine claims, supported by math need not be proven. The math supporting these claims is proof enough. Well Rob's latest claim and 18 y.o.'s imn a row, is not routine. Again, these claims defy routine, defy the math and need some sort of verification, if you expect anyone to believe them. Especially coming from the boy who cried wolf dozens of times.

For further confirmation of what I am saying, look to the two forum owners, here and at WoV. Both math guys, one a professional or former professional (I am not sure) Poker player and Poker is ALL about math and the other Shackleford, a generally accepted, not necessarily liked, but accepted as a gambling math expert. So have you seen either of these guys ask a card counter or any machine player that the advantage is evident to prove anything? No of course not. The math is the proof. But Rob Singer and his claims that defy math, both asked for some kind of proof or documentation. THAT is what we are talking about.

Now Rob got around this with the double up bug claim, his previous outlandish claim, by claiming he threw away all tax documents and casino paperwork. Pretty unbelievable. But this time his claim occured just last week, according to him, and being it is a math defying type claim or what Jdaewoo refers to as an "extrordinary" claim, if he wants people to believe, he should provide the W-2's along with some documentation from a bank that a deposit in the amount of the check received 1.6 million was made. And with his history of faking (and rather badly) such documentaion in the past, the originals should be examined by someone acceptable that we all trust.

If this seems contradictory to my statement that no one is on trial and need not prove anything, he is not on trial and need not prove anything. But with such an extrordinary claim, that defies math, don't expect anyone except those playing games (Crimm and Alan) to beleive.

One more quick example: A guy says I planted grass seed on my front yard, watered, it, the sun came out and a month later a nice new lawn had grown. No proof necessary. But a guy says, I planted grass seed, watered it and 3 weeks later, I had grass 100 feet high reaching up to the clouds, well he is going to have to show a little proof.

Now I personally really don't care. Rob Singer has proven to me time and time again, that he is a very jealous old man, full of hate and bitterness. Jealous to the point that he is literally angry at any player who plays with an advanatge, plays with the math at his back and makes money from the casinos where Singer failed to do so. Not a single one of his many math-defying extraordinary type claims, have had anything to back them up. He is in fact the boy who cried wolf.

[Garnabby]

Anyone reading all of that shit from KJ? Have fun with that stuff. Ha.

Hey, Red, now's your chance for a free trip to Vegas to meet someone with the handle, MaxPen. Waste another day in some dreary casino with a "million" cameras. What say you?

Say, I'll take Max up on it, as long as it's a trip to somewhere nice. I can watch it via Skype or something, the way that Hunter Thompson did, with the football game that he was sent to report on.


P.S. Max has to be the smartest dumb guy going.



[Picture of Mr. Thompson above.]

[MaxPen]

Anyone reading all of that shit from KJ? Have fun with that stuff. Ha.

Hey, Red, now's your chance for a free trip to Vegas to meet someone with the handle, MaxPen, waste another day in some dreary casino with a "million" cameras. What say you?

Say, I'll take Max up on it, as long as it's a trip to somewhere nice. I can watch it via Skype or something, the way that Hunter Thompson did it.


P.S. Max has to be the smartest dumb guy going.

I will send you a gift card to stay away. You're like these people we have out here in Vegas talking to themselves on the street corners falling out into the lanes of traffic. Anagram that.

Edit to add:

Secret code word RIP

[monet]

---> Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction.

https://anagram-solver.net/agreedIgo...e?partial=true


Oh, if stupidity were a weapon.

Obviously, MaxPen is a handle to an account at VCT. Singer need only ask the person that he relatively recently posted pictures to something in his living room. The correct MaxPen would reply, no, sir, the pictures were of repairs to my bathroom.

Anyway, carry on like ten-year-olds, and, a guy who refuses to be in the room unless everyone else there is smarter.

Total waste of time except to make more of an ass of yourselves - if possible for MrV, and Alan.

Well, too bad that KJ, either, didn't see the "angle". Ha.


P.S. Don't ever take me, either, seriously here. In a place that was a complete joke from the beginning. (Like I was the only one for a very long time who spoke up, from the beginning, about the Wizard being another complete joke. And, all the flack that resulted. Come on, get a life, you guys.)

I'm always nice to you.
I defend you on many occasions.
I'm supportive of your posts and your numerology.
I promote your theory of everything.
And what do I get for it?
You constantly hurting the one emotional feeling that I have.
Not Nice but I absolve you.

[Garnabby]

Anyone reading all of that shit from KJ? Have fun with that stuff. Ha.

Hey, Red, now's your chance for a free trip to Vegas to meet someone with the handle, MaxPen, waste another day in some dreary casino with a "million" cameras. What say you?

Say, I'll take Max up on it, as long as it's a trip to somewhere nice. I can watch it via Skype or something, the way that Hunter Thompson did it.


P.S. Max has to be the smartest dumb guy going.

I will send you a gift card to stay away. You're like these people we have out here in Vegas talking to themselves on the street corners falling out into the lanes of traffic. Anagram that.

Edit to add:

Secret code word RIP

Hi, MaxPen. I anagrammed it just for you, a one-time request, to show that I'm the real deal.

You're like these people we have out here in Vegas talking to themselves on the street corners falling out into the lanes of traffic.

--->

Fear & Loathing at Rolling Stone: The Essential Writings of Hunter S. Thompson.

Canons Regular of the Congregation of the Most Holy Saviour of the Lateran.

International Agreement for the suppression of the White Slave Traffic.

https://anagram-solver.net/You%27re%....?partial=true

[Garnabby]

I'm always nice to you.
I defend you on many occasions.
I'm supportive of your posts and your numerology.
I promote your theory of everything.
And what do I get for it?
You constantly hurting the one emotional feeling that I have.
Not Nice but I absolve you.

Yes, Monet. I'm sorry. So sorry. But thank you for absolving me. I feel better now, so, it was all worth it. Another good cry. Ha.

[kewlJ]

Garnabby, makes a fair point that my last post ran a little long.

Cliff note version: Basicaslly agreeing with what Jdaewoo stated. Routine claims need not be proven. The math is proof enough. Extraordinary, 1 in a million, billion, ten and hundreds of billion type claims require something, some kind of proof, verification whatever you want to call it, via documentation.

And any claim by the "boy who cried wolf", Rob singer probably needs some sort of verification.

[MaxPen]

Hi, MaxPen. I anagrammed it just for you, a one-time request, to show that I'm the real deal.

You're like these people we have out here in Vegas talking to themselves on the street corners falling out into the lanes of traffic.

---> Fear & Loathing at Rolling Stone: The Essential Writings of Hunter S. Thompson.

https://anagram-solver.net/You%27re%....?partial=true

That's no good because it doesn't contain the secret VCT code word. You will have to try again.

[Garnabby]

Hi, MaxPen. I anagrammed it just for you, a one-time request, to show that I'm the real deal.

You're like these people we have out here in Vegas talking to themselves on the street corners falling out into the lanes of traffic.

---> Fear & Loathing at Rolling Stone: The Essential Writings of Hunter S. Thompson.

https://anagram-solver.net/You%27re%....?partial=true

That's no good because it doesn't contain the secret VCT code word. You will have to try again.

Ah, but it did. You added it in your very own post above. The "edited to add" part.

[monet]

Yes, Monet. I'm sorry. So sorry. But thank you for absolving me. I feel better now, so, it was all worth it. Another good cry. Ha.

Tears feel good.
Personally, I like to bottle them.
Drink them down on occasion.

[monet]

That's no good because it doesn't contain the secret VCT code word. You will have to try again.

Yes but nobody has ever clarified if it stands for Rest In Peace or Rest in Pain?

[MaxPen]

Hi, MaxPen. I anagrammed it just for you, a one-time request, to show that I'm the real deal.



---> Fear & Loathing at Rolling Stone: The Essential Writings of Hunter S. Thompson.

https://anagram-solver.net/You%27re%....?partial=true

That's no good because it doesn't contain the secret VCT code word. You will have to try again.

Ah, but it did. You added it in your very own post above. The "edited to add" part.

No,,,, the RIP secret code word is not anywhere in that anagram. The statement without RIP could make that anagram. Back to the solving board.

[MaxPen]

That's no good because it doesn't contain the secret VCT code word. You will have to try again.

Yes but nobody has ever clarified if it stands for Rest In Peace or Rest in Pain?

Let the circumstance decide.