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  1. #41
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Let him tell his stories and leave him alone.
    You are over tired, speaking out your mouth and ass at the same time.

    Go to bed, child...school tomorrow.

    The casinos will still be there when you grow up.

  2. #42
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    You're just salty because he's also a better Blackjack player than you are.
    Funny coach.

    Having never seen him play, I can assure you he is not, just from what he says. He is a typical "poppy" type -EV player claiming to win every day.
    I HAVE seen him play. And yes, he is completely full of shit!
    You mean like my recent $5 UX five-play dealt royal that you claimed "to have seen before" but had serious trouble supporting that dumb assertion?

    Idiots like you see things.

    Wise up.

  3. #43
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Is this your position now coach belly, and since you frequently speak for Mdog, his position...that he has just been lucky for the last 300+ days of play?

    And the trips posted at WoV for two years before that?

    And the 20 years prior to that, that he claims he was a winning high stakes winning player?

    That is the new camp Mdog position...that he is simply the luckiest person on the face of the earth?
    Kew here's a fool-proof way to back up your envious claims about MDawg not being a better and bigger blackjack winner than you:

    WHY DON'T YOU SIMPLY CONTACT YOUR COSMO/MGM EXECS WHO SUPPOSEDLY PROVIDED YOU WITH INSIDE INFORMATION ON MDAWG'S BACCARAT RESULTS, AND TELL THEM TO PROVIDE YOU WITH HIS BJ RESULTS??

    I mean, if you da man in left field, why not show us your capabilities in right?

    Or are you gonna run off and hide in your little fairy's safe space again now that the tough calls have to be made--like you did with Alan and your two-tables debacle, and when shit got real for visiting me and my Newell?

    And you wonder why you keep getting banned at WoV and ridiculed over here?

  4. #44
    I pretty much did that last year, except it wasn't just blackjack, but all his gambling claims that didn't come close to matching what he claimed. And you don't have to take my word for it. Just days after I posted what heis real results really were, he snuck this single line into the bottom of one of his posts at WoV. "Additionally, Wizard and I went over my results and I am about even for this trip". This was a change from his claims which totaled over 500k before I posted his real records. We literally saw this M-jerkoff panic and roll back a years worth of claimed wins in one sentence.

    That was the biggest liar/troll getting caught since Maxpen pegged you in that RV at the dealership.

    I am not going to call in any favors to get Mdawgs specific blackjack records, but I probably will get access to what they are at some point. I'll let you know what his real results are if and when I do. I can't post actual documents because that puts others people in jeopardy, but I will let you know the numbers. But for now, I think anybody with half a brain kinows he hasn't won much if anything playing blackjack at Cosmo of all places. They simply won't allow that kind of thing.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 05-22-2022 at 10:29 PM.

  5. #45
    It just cracks me up that these trolls, like Singer and Mdawg with their fantasy tales of winning in vegas, think they can pull the wool over the eyes of real players that live and play Vegas and know how Vegas works and know people that can provide info if need be. You nut jobs should keep your little fantasy claims in the basement of whatever kid's house you are mooching off at the moment, and Mdog keep his BS stories to California, where fantasies like his become movies, but still remain just a fantasy. All you want-to-be's are doing is proving beyond any doubt that you have no clue about Vegas and how things here really work.

  6. #46
    Kewlj. We know you're a winning player. I think you said you win something like $65,000 a year. Very good.

    Suppose you had MDawg's bankroll.

    Extrapolate for me. If betting at MDawg's level, how much would your $65,000 profit turn into?

  7. #47
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Kewlj. We know you're a winning player. I think you said you win something like $65,000 a year. Very good.

    Suppose you had MDawg's bankroll.

    Extrapolate for me. If betting at MDawg's level, how much would your $65,000 profit turn into?
    Alan this is simply a false narrative you are hinting at. Betting larger amounts does not change anything. If you are playing a negative expectation game you will lose longterm. Betting more and progression simply can NOT change that.

    There is no magic potion to win playing -Ev games. No "special plays". No progression wagering or any betting system that will make a difference (long-term). Stop limits like "quitting while ahead" are baloney and change nothing. And you can't take positive variance from a short-term, small sample size win and duplicate it over and over. These are all long ago disproven by math, voodoo thinking.

    There are two ways to win. One is you hit a huge jackpot type payout and stop playing before you lose it all back. That is simply gambling and getting lucky. Like winning the lottery. You are never at an advantage, you just got lucky.

    The other real way to win is to find something, some technique that allows you to play at an advantage or a game with better than 100% return and put lots of money through or on the felt grinding out that slim advantage. That is exactly what I do and what all AP's do, machine players, table game players, even hole-carders. You find something that has you at an advantage and you put the money through at that advantage. It is that simple.

    Now for table game players, specifically blackjack card counters there is a second layer. Because what we do is well known, we have to play at levels that are tolerated. And you have to play a style that limits the bigger wins that someone has to answer for. These limits are different for different casinos and different times. So there is extra work to identify these limits. That is what I have done very well.

    That is the great secret to winning. Find something at an advantage and put the money through, playing limits that are well tolerated. None of this magical stuff these scammer promote. These guys, like Singer and Mdog are no different in that regard that all the youtube scammers.

    In closing, not that it really matters but the number that you threw out there from God knows where of what I make is low. I have averaged more than that during my 13 years in Vegas. I have been pretty open about this in the past, but probably won't be going forward. But feel free to think and guess whatever you like.

  8. #48
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Kewlj. We know you're a winning player. I think you said you win something like $65,000 a year. Very good.

    Suppose you had MDawg's bankroll.

    Extrapolate for me. If betting at MDawg's level, how much would your $65,000 profit turn into?
    Who gives a shit?? KJ is content on what he does and makes. He obviously could make a shit ton more using other techniques, but he's said numerous times he's not into that stuff.

  9. #49
    Kewlj your -EV explanation doesnt work when Mdawg, like you, plays blackjack.

    So if you were to extrapolate your winnings with his bankroll how much would you be winning?

  10. #50
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Kewlj. We know you're a winning player. I think you said you win something like $65,000 a year. Very good.

    Suppose you had MDawg's bankroll.

    Extrapolate for me. If betting at MDawg's level, how much would your $65,000 profit turn into?
    Who gives a shit?? KJ is content on what he does and makes. He obviously could make a shit ton more using other techniques, but he's said numerous times he's not into that stuff.
    Who gives a shit? Your buddy Kewlj gives a shit.

  11. #51
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Kewlj your -EV explanation doesnt work when Mdawg, like you, plays blackjack.

    So if you were to extrapolate your winnings with his bankroll how much would you be winning?
    First, Mdawg is NOT playing blackjack at an advantage. I don't care what he claims, Cosmo where he plays would never allow that. Plus comp him suites for a year on top. That is fantasy stuff Alan. It is twilight zone stuff.

    But I will answer your question. I don't need Mdawg's money, I have my own. I have the bankroll to play much higher stakes than I do. I could play a max bet of $5000 safely. And I would win somehwre between 600k and a million dollars a year.

    EXCEPT, I wouldn't be able to play for a year. After about 2 months maybe 4 if I traveled all over the country, I wouldn't be able to play anywhere and would be running the KJ blackjack bootcamp, or selling books. That is not the path I choose. I am very content, playing limits that are well tolerated and playing for years, making what I make.

  12. #52
    My point Kewlj is not about playing undetected. My point is MDawg's wins are not out of whack with his betting level.

    I think you'd be winning $650k instead of $65k if you had MDawg's bankroll.

    I dont think his winning is out of line at all.

    Maybe he does "forget" some losing sessions but for a high roller nothing surprises me about the amounts he claims.

    Now... if he's forgetting to report too many losing sessions, it really doesn't matter. He can report what he wants.

  13. #53
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    My point Kewlj is not about playing undetected. My point is MDawg's wins are not out of whack with his betting level.
    Of course YOU think that, Alan. There is nothing Mdawg is doing playing blackjack that makes his play winning play. Therefore betting more doesn't mean he will overcome negative expectation and win.

    I have done all I can do with you. I have lead the horse to water. I can not make him drink or understand the math.

  14. #54
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    My point Kewlj is not about playing undetected. My point is MDawg's wins are not out of whack with his betting level.
    Of course YOU think that, Alan. There is nothing Mdawg is doing playing blackjack that makes his play winning play. Therefore betting more doesn't mean he will overcome negative expectation and win.

    I have done all I can do with you. I have lead the horse to water. I can not make him drink or understand the math.
    Stop it Kewlj. You have no idea if he's card counting or edge sorting. He doesn't talk about how he wins. Unlike you. You broadcast to the world you're a counter.

    He might act like a dumb rich guy and accomplish what you can't-- fly under the radar.

    Yes, he very well could be smarter than you.

  15. #55
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    My point Kewlj is not about playing undetected. My point is MDawg's wins are not out of whack with his betting level.

    I think you'd be winning $650k instead of $65k if you had MDawg's bankroll.

    I dont think his winning is out of line at all.

    Maybe he does "forget" some losing sessions but for a high roller nothing surprises me about the amounts he claims.

    Now... if he's forgetting to report too many losing sessions, it really doesn't matter. He can report what he wants.
    Alan, c'mon, man. If, as a sports handicapper, I report all or most of my winning weeks and skip reporting the majority of my losing weeks, what does it matter?

    It makes me a liar. It means I'm misrepresenting what I can and cannot do. It means I'm publicizing a false record. it means I'm advertising a skill level I do not have. It means other people reading my reports can draw all kinds of wrong conclusions about what is or is not probable. My reports misrepresent what I did, what I can do, what anyone can expect to accomplish.

    In sports handicapping, if I did what MDawg does, I'd be claiming to win 80-some percent of my plays ATS, which can't be done by anyone for any type of long-term, which I'll define specifically here as more than 200 plays. Now if someone (you or coach, for example) want to argue that 160-40 ATS is theoretically possible -- yes it is. But I haven't, in 40 years of watching all manner of handicapping competitions and contests in all sports -- I've never seen anything close to it. Not once by anyone monitored by Tipsters or Gypsters or The Sports Monitor or Handicappers' Report Card or The Wise Guys or the old Castaways Contest or The SuperBook Contest or Bally's contests or anything -- nobody has come close. So that's the practical reality of probability.

    MDawg has skipped reporting most of his losing sessions. Now, most people who know anything about gambling won't take him seriously, but a handful will. When USA Today first started printing circa 1982, they allowed ads covering two full pages and more from people claiming to win 80% and 90% against the spread. So USA Today was itself complicit in scamming or naive. It took months, but eventually they vetoed those ads. The point is, I'm in no position to estimate how many people get misled and hurt by MDawg's fantasy tales. But the number is not zero.

  16. #56
    Is Mdawg a handicapper too? Is he selling his services? Is he using investors' money?

    Is he even posting using his real name?

    Here's where I'll agree with young jbjb. What does it matter what he posts?

    Give it a rest.

  17. #57
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post

    Stop it Kewlj. You have no idea if he's card counting or edge sorting. He doesn't talk about how he wins. Unlike you. You broadcast to the world you're a counter.

    He might act like a dumb rich guy and accomplish what you can't-- fly under the radar.

    Yes, he very well could be smarter than you.
    Alan, you are either very gullible or very stupid. The guy got caught in his lie. For 7 months he posted about all this winning and then when I got a hold of his actual records which showed a loss, he posted the single line that he was about even. 7 months of winning and over 500k disappeared with that one line admission.

    You did the same damn thing with Singer. YOU went on WoV and said that you had met with Singer for breakfast, I beleive at Red Rock and he admitted to you that his claims were not true. Do you want me to go back and find it? And now a year later you are back supporting Singer. There is something seriously wrong with you Alan.

    Alan, you are a life long losing gambler. You have employed all these voodoo concepts and thinking for how many decades? And where are you now? How much did you lose? Hundreds of thousands? And yet you beleive these guys that claim they can win using these same long disproven voodoo crap.

    There is no crime in being wrong and making mistakes. The crime is not learning from those mistakes and making the same ones again.

    One of these guys told you to your face that he made his claims up.....and yet you now believe him again.

    The other panicked and admitted at WoV that he was not ahead the 500k he claimed for 7 months....and yet you now believe him again.

    What is wrong with you Alan? seriously?

  18. #58
    Kewlj I'm not gullible and I'm not stupid. I just dont need to be the greatest of all time like you... the #1 authority, chief justice, master of all.

    Have a nice life.

  19. #59
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    . What does it matter what he posts?
    What does it matter? Are you kidding me? There are people that try to emulate these peoples false claims. On this forum there was slingshot trying to play Singer's progression system. At WoV there was that guy....what was his handle?....who claimed to work in a casino who had started playing bacarat trying to emulate Mdawgs claims. And God knows how many more people lost money, maybe serious money that they couldn't afford, trying to emulate these clowns and their BS claims.

    Alan, I have been on forums since 2006 now, my 3rd year of supporting myself from card counting. I have shared my journey from those early days playing low limit and not making much money while I built my BR, through my move to Las Vegas in 2009 and the 13 years living in Vegas playing the stakes I play now. I never encouraged anyone to follow me, but there are at least a half dozen players that I know tried to follow in my footsteps. One of them, Zenking moved to Las Vegas. Another sidthesquid angry that he lost and blaming me has trolled me on numerous forums. A guy I worked with back in Philly, who goes by billytheblackjack kid also blames me that his blackjack play didn't turn out as he had hoped.

    I never encouraged any of these guys to follow me. But they did. What if I was to now reveal that I don't play blackjack for a living and don't live in Vegas, but I live in Alabama and work in a Walmart. Would that be ok? Could I just say "who cares what I post?"

    These guys are intentionally misleading people and players with their BS claims that defy math and reality. They are intentionally harming other players. No different than the youtube scammers. And they should be called out just the same. Bullshit is bullshit!

    Edit: Marcus Clark was the dude at WoV that tried to emulate Mdog.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 05-23-2022 at 12:37 AM.

  20. #60
    You're a joke Kewlj. Slingshot was a nickel VP player.

    How many people have tried to be card counters?

    Why dont you suggest to Wizard and Dan that they shut down the forums to keep America safe.

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