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    In Nevada, failing to pay a casino marker is treated as criminal check fraud under NRS 205.130. Nevada law presumes people to have an “intent to defraud” if there are insufficient funds in their bank account when the casino attempts to redeem their markers.

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  2. #22
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    As indicated above, you will contact the casino and get a credit application. Fill it out; indicate how much credit you desire; they review it; they approve at a certain level or deny. Never give them too much asset info--just enough to justify the credit requested. At some casinos part of the app included an authorization for them to get income tax info. Depending upon your asset info, they probably won't do so.

    I have 30 days to pay---you won't get that until you have an established history. You will probably have to pay when you leave. If you have privacy concerns, don't fill out the app at all and find another way. It does provide much too much info and the ability to get more info.

    When you take the marker, unless it is at the cage, you will be expected to gamble at that table or pit. You can't walk up to a craps table, take a marker, and then walk away. Many people are against markers, but I have used them for 30 years. Much more convenient for me and I won't use ATM's. At one time I did open a bank account in Las Vegas, but that was really too inconvenient as well. Are there any bank branches walking distance from the strip now?? Never paid any attention. It was good for cash deposits before heading back home, however.
    My main bank branch is BOA and there is one downtown but that isn't any easier than getting $ locally and carrying it on the plane. (which is a minor deal all things considered.) I haven't carried large amounts but about 15k at times. Not a huge deal but I'd rather not withdraw cash if not needed. I try to keep bank money in the bank and only withdraw it when absolutely needed.

    Thank you for your answer. Lots of useful info. I have yet to look at a casino credit application but remember glancing at one and being like.. holy fuck this is involved. Although setting up credit once that I could use on subsequent visits would be useful. I'm only looking to do it at major strip casinos. Resorts or MGM.

    I still am curious if I get a marker and go straight to poker. Worst case is they cut me off and wag their finger at me sorta deal.
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  3. #23
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    In Nevada, failing to pay a casino marker is treated as criminal check fraud under NRS 205.130. Nevada law presumes people to have an “intent to defraud” if there are insufficient funds in their bank account when the casino attempts to redeem their markers.

    Sorry.
    I know that these debts are considered checks and not like a typical loan. State laws obvious in casino's favor in NV and for obvious reasons.

    I've always wondered how often you can get a state judge to overturn extradition back to NV if you're arrested elsewhere. Now that would be something interesting to know even if not particularly useful.

    Oh are you referring to the "30 days" to pay it? You get 30 days before they cash this check thing? Then if that fails it is automatically a charge? All this would be interesting to hear what the truth is. Again I have no plan on have a felony charge.
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  4. #24
    I was just browsing the website for the Hard Rock Las Vegas. Under the “casino” tab, they list both a credit application and a front-money application. What’s the difference between credit and front money?
    With casino credit, you qualify for a certain amount of money that a casino lends you for a short period of time. How much the casino will lend you is based on the average amount of money in your checking account (between 30 and 90 days) and your credit history as determined by your FICO or Vantage scores or, if you’ve previously established a record of casino credit, your Central Credit score, which is used specifically by casinos.

    At the tables, you can draw chips against your credit line by signing markers. For slots and video poker, you get your funds from the casino cashier.

    At the end of your trip, you settle up by buying back your markers with your winnings or make arrangements acceptable to the casino for covering your losses.

    With front money, you deposit your own funds into a casino account. You can deposit cash, casino chips, a personal check, a bank draft, a money order, or a wire transfer. You draw down your front money, same as casino credit, by signing markers at the tables or making withdrawals from the cage.

    At the end of a stay, if you have unpaid markers, they’re debited against your front money. You can withdraw any leftover money or leave it in your casino account for your next trip.

    There are a lot of ins and outs connected to casino credit and front money, having to do with minimum amounts, playing to your line, comp considerations, collections on outstanding markers, and the like, but those are beyond the scope of this answer.
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    P.S. Kind of funny, as an aside, that someone called "account in question" is looking for such credit.
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  5. #25
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    As indicated above, you will contact the casino and get a credit application. Fill it out; indicate how much credit you desire; they review it; they approve at a certain level or deny. Never give them too much asset info--just enough to justify the credit requested. At some casinos part of the app included an authorization for them to get income tax info. Depending upon your asset info, they probably won't do so.

    I have 30 days to pay---you won't get that until you have an established history. You will probably have to pay when you leave. If you have privacy concerns, don't fill out the app at all and find another way. It does provide much too much info and the ability to get more info.

    When you take the marker, unless it is at the cage, you will be expected to gamble at that table or pit. You can't walk up to a craps table, take a marker, and then walk away. Many people are against markers, but I have used them for 30 years. Much more convenient for me and I won't use ATM's. At one time I did open a bank account in Las Vegas, but that was really too inconvenient as well. Are there any bank branches walking distance from the strip now?? Never paid any attention. It was good for cash deposits before heading back home, however.

    I kept a Wells Fargo account for some years specifically for this, but I don't even know what banks are where anymore.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    In Nevada, failing to pay a casino marker is treated as criminal check fraud under NRS 205.130. Nevada law presumes people to have an “intent to defraud” if there are insufficient funds in their bank account when the casino attempts to redeem their markers.

    Sorry.
    I know that these debts are considered checks and not like a typical loan. State laws obvious in casino's favor in NV and for obvious reasons.

    I've always wondered how often you can get a state judge to overturn extradition back to NV if you're arrested elsewhere. Now that would be something interesting to know even if not particularly useful.

    Oh are you referring to the "30 days" to pay it? You get 30 days before they cash this check thing? Then if that fails it is automatically a charge? All this would be interesting to hear what the truth is. Again I have no plan on have a felony charge.
    I have 30 days. If I haven't paid in 30 days, I used to get a friendly call/reminder. Now after 30 they would just put it through to my bank. I think I forgot once.
    With respect to your walking right to poker, I have never played poker there but I assume you can get the marker in the poker room. I could be wrong. If you get it at the cage and go play poker, it is no different than taking it at the cage to go play slots. Not a problem unless you show no play with it.

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    In Nevada, failing to pay a casino marker is treated as criminal check fraud under NRS 205.130. Nevada law presumes people to have an “intent to defraud” if there are insufficient funds in their bank account when the casino attempts to redeem their markers.

    Sorry.
    I know that these debts are considered checks and not like a typical loan. State laws obvious in casino's favor in NV and for obvious reasons.

    I've always wondered how often you can get a state judge to overturn extradition back to NV if you're arrested elsewhere. Now that would be something interesting to know even if not particularly useful.

    Oh are you referring to the "30 days" to pay it? You get 30 days before they cash this check thing? Then if that fails it is automatically a charge? All this would be interesting to hear what the truth is. Again I have no plan on have a felony charge.
    I have 30 days. If I haven't paid in 30 days, I used to get a friendly call/reminder. Now after 30 they would just put it through to my bank. I think I forgot once.
    With respect to your walking right to poker, I have never played poker there but I assume you can get the marker in the poker room. I could be wrong. If you get it at the cage and go play poker, it is no different than taking it at the cage to go play slots. Not a problem unless you show no play with it.
    The deal with poker is the casino makes very little and very likely loses $$. I've always been under the impression that mostly casinos would not even have poker rooms if not for the fact many gamblers come for them.

    Which makes me think the overhead of a marker might be frowned upon given how little they will make off that whole process. It isn't EV and doesn't particularly scale with your stakes. It'll be an hourly rate the casino takes which is dwarfed by the amounts being transferred.

    Regardless this thread has been very useful. Even Garnabby pulled it out.
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  8. #28
    Pretty easy to get 10,000 at Caesars: https://www.caesars.com/casino-credit or at any MGM property.
    You can get $10,000 at several properties pretty easy. Each property has their own separate line. I have found getting more than $10,000 right off the bat is going to be tough.
    If you pay off with cash your line goes back up, if you pay with check you cannot get more until the check clears. If you leave town without paying they will send you a bill, if you don't pay your bill they wil take it directly from the account. If there is not enough in the account to cover it is considered a bad check under Nevada law.

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  10. #30
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Your post is a bit confusing AiQ, because you start off saying you are paper cash broke. But you have money in the bank that you could either wire to a casino or just go withdraw the cash you need. So why not do that?

    I have no idea what you do as far as casino play. Are you comfortable with the casinos having all that financial information on you? If so then a marker is just about convenience of not carrying cash. But you have never needed (or wanted) that before, so why now? I can only speak for myself, as a lower mid limit player, I want the casino to have as little info as possible on me.


    Don’t take pool strut Kews advice he doesn’t actually do anything in casinos. He’s never proven to be a real person actually putting time in at the tables.

    Max gave you the best advice it’s a super simple process and there may be a play involved utilizing markers

  11. #31
    I havent had a credit line in five years but a couple of things stand out.

    1. Markers for poker? I dont think markers or credit lines are provided for poker as the house only provides a service. There's no house edge in poker. You might have to go to the main casino then take those live chips to the poker room.

    2. Markers are based on available cash in a checking account. If there is not a history of available cash in a checking account you won't be allowed to open a credit line.

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post

    Don’t take pool strut Kews advice he doesn’t actually do anything in casinos. He’s never proven to be a real person actually putting time in at the tables.
    What is wrong with you dude? You are acting like a jilted 10 year old girl. I said something you didn't like, so you are lying and spreading nasty rumors at recess. Not that you are the first at this forum to exhibit such behavior. I guess that is what this forum is.

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I havent had a credit line in five years but a couple of things stand out.

    1. Markers for poker? I dont think markers or credit lines are provided for poker as the house only provides a service. There's no house edge in poker. You might have to go to the main casino then take those live chips to the poker room.

    2. Markers are based on available cash in a checking account. If there is not a history of available cash in a checking account you won't be allowed to open a credit line.

    Very good.

    Also, I just wanted to mention that very occasionally, applying for a credit line may come with a perk of some kind, especially when casinos open. For example, I think whatever the Sahara was previously, when it opened, gave you some kind of $200 or $500 comp if you successfully applied for a 10K line of credit. And when the LVHilton changed hands (I think pre-WestGate), if you qualified for a 10K line of credit, they gave you $500 in free play or comps. So keep your eye out for those kinds of offers. Rare, but they do pop up every once in awhile.

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I havent had a credit line in five years but a couple of things stand out.

    1. Markers for poker? I dont think markers or credit lines are provided for poker as the house only provides a service. There's no house edge in poker. You might have to go to the main casino then take those live chips to the poker room.

    2. Markers are based on available cash in a checking account. If there is not a history of available cash in a checking account you won't be allowed to open a credit line.


    Free play last forever at some shops . For example you can combine multiple offers at once each week then play the exact amount on pickup day as you did to create the offer. Many Video poker players do this in some areas of the country to generate perpetual mail that keeps them at advantage even on bad games. Queer bait dieter suspended me for 3 days now forever I guess because I said people suck for free instead of getting paid for it, or I would have explained it to you there.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post

    Don’t take pool strut Kews advice he doesn’t actually do anything in casinos. He’s never proven to be a real person actually putting time in at the tables.
    What is wrong with you dude? You are acting like a jilted 10 year old girl. I said something you didn't like, so you are lying and spreading nasty rumors at recess. Not that you are the first at this forum to exhibit such behavior. I guess that is what this forum is.
    Nothing wrong with me pool strut I’m just calling you out for being a fraud. You attacked me first gun play

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue
    Queer bait dieter suspended me for 3 days now forever I guess because I said people suck for free instead of getting paid for it, or I would have explained it to you there.
    Oh, he's a clever troll, this one.

    You got bounced, boyo, for your not so hidden slam at KJ, an avowed homosexual, in response to whose comment you posted "Free play can be forever if you actually know the play that makes it so. But some guys wouldn’t understand that because they suck for free instead of getting paid for it."

    Nice try though.
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  17. #37
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue
    Queer bait dieter suspended me for 3 days now forever I guess because I said people suck for free instead of getting paid for it, or I would have explained it to you there.
    Oh, he's a clever troll, this one.

    You got bounced, boyo, for your not so hidden slam at KJ, an avowed homosexual, in response to whose comment you posted "Free play can be forever if you actually know the play that makes it so. But some guys wouldn’t understand that because they suck for free instead of getting paid for it."

    Nice try though.
    A harmless man is not a good man. A good man is a very very dangerous man who has that under voluntary control. He’s civilized and disciplined and can use this in the service of his family or other endeavors.

    Maybe the mod should tread lightly as he walks through the casino in Md he frequents how about you relay the message big boy

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue
    A harmless man is not a good man. A good man is a very very dangerous man who has that under voluntary control. He’s civilized and disciplined and can use this in the service of his family or other endeavors. Maybe the mod should tread lightly as he walks through the casino in Md he frequents how about you relay the message big boy
    LOL, a not so veiled threat from our newest internet tough guy.

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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue
    A harmless man is not a good man. A good man is a very very dangerous man who has that under voluntary control. He’s civilized and disciplined and can use this in the service of his family or other endeavors. Maybe the mod should tread lightly as he walks through the casino in Md he frequents how about you relay the message big boy
    LOL, a not so veiled threat from our newest internet tough guy.

    Why should I be the one to relay your threats?

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    Sure whatever makes you feel good. Imagine a lawyer who needs the case number to look up something on pacermonitor. I guess you are another fake.

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    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue
    A harmless man is not a good man. A good man is a very very dangerous man who has that under voluntary control. He’s civilized and disciplined and can use this in the service of his family or other endeavors. Maybe the mod should tread lightly as he walks through the casino in Md he frequents how about you relay the message big boy
    LOL, a not so veiled threat from our newest internet tough guy.

    Why should I be the one to relay your threats?

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    Sure whatever makes you feel good. Imagine a lawyer who needs the case number to look up something on pacermonitor. I guess you are another fake.
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