Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 26

Thread: I'm real sick of the Kewlj and Mdawg Feud!

  1. #1
    Their Feud spans at least three different Forums and is beyond annoying. I get Alerts on Gambling Forums and I kid you not, about 90 percent of my Alerts are about Kewlj and Mdawg fighting. Beyond annoying. They really both should just stop.
    Last edited by Tasha; 06-07-2022 at 10:09 AM.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


    Smart is knowing a Tomato is a fruit.

    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



    I am glad to get my full posting rights back! Thank you Dan!

  2. #2
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Their Feud spans at least three different Forums and is beyond annoying. I get Alerts on Gambling Forums and I kid you not, about 90 percent of my Alerts are about Kewlj and Mdawg fighting. Beyond annoying. They really both should just stop.

    What's the third forum?

  3. #3
    Tasha, you might as well shit in one hand and wish in the other then compare.

    Both of them seem to enjoy it.

    Oh I know KJ will protest, saying he's just defending himself, but he should do what I did long ago: put douchedawg on ignore.
    What, Me Worry?

  4. #4
    Shut the alerts off.

  5. #5
    Now do you understand why there’s a need for a Nathan/Tasha’s corner? Because you’re also beyond annoying…

  6. #6
    Tasha, I don't have a "feud" with Mdog. All, I did was call his claims out as BS from both a mathematical point and the way Las Vegas works point. And I was not alone. About 20 members at WoV attempted to do the same, many shutdown and suspended for voicing that opinion. So many members have exited over the Mdog situation that yesterday, WoV had 103 visits from members, the lowest I have ever seen on a weekday. I guess that is beside the point, except that I believe Mdog's sole purpose was to make a mockery of WoV and Shackleford and he is succeeding in destroying WoV.

    I and every other member and player that challenged Mdogs claims, have every right to do so. 102 winning sessions out of 104. At one time he said he won 52 straight hands at blackjack. These things defy math. And the pit bosses patting him on the back telling him he is the greatest or asking "how much are you going to take from us today?", while comping him a highend suite for a solid year, defies the way Las Vegas works.

    Are you aware pit bosses are accountable for tables that underperform expectation. Of course tables or pits underperform on a short term basis, like a shift or several shifts....THAT is variance. But when that stretches to a regular thing, someone is going to have to explain what the hell is going on. So according to Mdog, these very guys, pitbosses that have to answer for re-occurring underperforming table, just love him and want to give him a big hug. This is just NOT how it works.

    So Mdogs response was to attack every person that challenged his claims or said they didn't find him credible. he listed every single person over at true passages, starting a thread about each and every one. And he has gone after me with nasty lies and attacks ever since. I didn't start out attacking him. I simply said what he is claiming can't be mathematically and the way Las Vegas works.

    And of course, he escalated to the point that he doxed me on two forums, and I believe sent that information to casinos, who put it in the database. It didn't cost me my career as he had hoped, because I know how to deal with it, but it has cost me 10's of thousands of dollars in down time. But I will not be bullied by him, or hayseed here, or Singer or anyone else. What Mdog is claiming is fiction, defies the math and the way Las Vegas works.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 06-07-2022 at 10:58 AM.

  7. #7
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Tasha, I don't have a "feud" with Mdog. All, I did was call his claims out as BS from both a mathematical point and the way Las Vegas works point. And I was not alone. About 20 members at WoV attempted to do the same, many shutdown and suspended for voicing that opinion. So many members have exited over the Mdog situation that yesterday, WoV had 103 visits from members, the lowest I have ever seen on a weekday. I guess that is beside the point, except that I believe Mdog's sole purpose was to make a mockery of WoV and Shackleford and he is succeeding in destroying WoV.

    I and every other member and player that challenged Mdogs claims, have every right to do so. 102 winning sessions out of 104. At one time he said he won 52 straight hands at blackjack. These things defy math. And the pit bosses patting him on the back telling him he is the greatest or asking "how much are you going to take from us today?", while comping him a highend suite for a solid year, defies the way Las Vegas works.

    Are you aware pit bosses are accountable for tables that underperform expectation. Of course tables or pits underperform on a short term basis, like a shift or several shifts....THAT is variance. But when that stretches to a regular thing, someone is going to have to explain what the hell is going on. So according to Mdog, these very guys, pitbosses that have to answer for re-occurring underperforming table, just love him and want to give him a big hug. This is just NOT how it works.

    So Mdogs response was to attack every person that challenged his claims or said they didn't find him credible. he listed every single person over at true passages, starting a thread about each and every one. And he has gone after me with nasty lies and attacks ever since. I didn't start out attacking him. I simply said what he is claiming can't be mathematically and the way Las Vegas works.

    And of course, he escalated to the point that he doxed me on two forums, and I believe sent that information to casinos, who put it in the database. It didn't cost me my career as he had hoped, because I know how to deal with it, but it has cost me 10's of thousands of dollars in down time. But I will not be bullied by him, or hayseed here, or Singer or anyone else. What Mdog is claiming is fiction, defies the math and the way Las Vegas works.

    Gun play / kewj is a bigot . He’s using the term “hayseed” as a derogatory term.


    hay·seed
    /ˈhāsēd/
    Learn to pronounce
    noun
    1.
    grass seed obtained from hay.
    2.
    INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN
    a person from the country, especially a simple, unsophisticated one.
    "notices of agricultural sales are an irresistible lure for hicks and hayseeds"


    Since I grew up in metropolitan area Pittsburgh to be exact he’s not only a bigot but miss informed.

    His delusions of grandeur have him believing he’s some sophisticated card counting savant counting two and three tables at a time all the while going undetected for years in Vegas lol. I spent some time on the plane last night going through all these fairly tale post across multiple forums. Im going to consolidate them in the collection of Vegas fairy tales thread. It really is a work of magnificent fiction that should be published.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    His delusions of grandeur have him believing he’s some sophisticated card counting savant counting two and three tables at a time all the while going undetected for years in Vegas lol. I spent some time on the plane last night going through all these fairly tale post across multiple forums. Im going to consolidate them in the collection of Vegas fairy tales thread. It really is a work of magnificent fiction that should be published.
    I don't know where you get this crap? Where have I EVER said anything along the lines that what I do is special or sophisticated or advanced? I have always impressed that I employ simple age old card counting techniques (with a little bit of my own twists).

    But you do what you need to do Hayseed. Btw to most of us "Hayseed" just refers to a simpleton, with no bigoted alternative meaning. And "simpleton" describes your agenda here perfectly.

  9. #9
    My unbiased opinion, which is generally not allowed on VCT, is that the decision to let MDawg run rampant on Wov comes from higher up than Shackleford. I think it's a money decision by the Serbs. They may be making affiliate money on online baccarat because of MDawg. And hope to get more. If that's the case then Shack has to stand down.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    My unbiased opinion, which is generally not allowed on VCT, is that the decision to let MDawg run rampant on Wov comes from higher up than Shackleford. I think it's a money decision by the Serbs. They may be making affiliate money on online baccarat because of MDawg. And hope to get more. If that's the case then Shack has to stand down.
    You may be right Mick, but I’m not putting it past Shack to be enjoying perks from hanging around MDawg. You can call him a sellout for doing it but it’s probably an AP play from him and honestly most of us mean shit to him so why not? He’s a strange individual most that know him say, so why wouldn’t he? KJ will say credibility and legacy but neither pays the bills or put a kid through college.

    At least I like to think that’s how he justifies it. And even his “friends” on here would agree he has been more than biased toward MDawg.

  11. #11
    That is a real possibility mickeycrimm. Clearly, allowing and protecting Mdog, which I don't think anyone denies has happened, has cost that forum many members. But they are mostly APs and people that believe and live by the math and that is exactly the kind of members a casino business, online or brick and mortar doesn't want. So they may not have a problem with reduced membership, if it is means less of these kinds of members.

    If what Mickey suggests is the case though, Shackleford agreeing to it is very disappointing. Maybe contractually he is unable to walk away. Otherwise, I find it very disappointing.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    My unbiased opinion, which is generally not allowed on VCT, is that the decision to let MDawg run rampant on Wov comes from higher up than Shackleford. I think it's a money decision by the Serbs. They may be making affiliate money on online baccarat because of MDawg. And hope to get more. If that's the case then Shack has to stand down.
    You may be right Mick, but I’m not putting it past Shack to be enjoying perks from hanging around MDawg. You can call him a sellout for doing it but it’s probably an AP play from him and honestly most of us mean shit to him so why not? He’s a strange individual most that know him say, so why wouldn’t he? KJ will say credibility and legacy but neither pays the bills or put a kid through college.

    At least I like to think that’s how he justifies it. And even his “friends” on here would agree he has been more than biased toward MDawg.
    I didn't think of that angle. Shack living it up in the penthouse. Laying out by the pool. Fine dining. Yep. That's certainly a possibility.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue
    Gun play / kewj is a bigot
    Speaking of his "gun play," how did that call to LVPD go?

    Remember?

    You promised to call them and lay out KJ's "threats."

    So, tell us all about it...

    Did they laugh at you?

    Did they come in a big white van, trap you in a large butterfly net and then take you to the insane asylum?

    Seems to me that your mouth writes checks that you cannot cover; please, prove me wrong.
    Last edited by MisterV; 06-09-2022 at 03:10 PM.
    What, Me Worry?

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue
    Gun play / kewj is a bigot
    Speaking of his "gun play," how did that call to LVPD go?

    Remember?

    You promised to call them and lay out KJ's "threats."

    So, tell us all about it...

    Did they laugh at you?

    Did they come in a big white van, trap you in a large butterfly net and then take you to the insane asylum?

    Seems to me that your mouth writes checks that you cannot cover; please, prove me wrong.
    I can assure you I can cover you in any gambling game or life. This I’m 100 percent certain of.

    I already answered this question a few days ago. First I backed off because one of his forums buds said he’s harmless.
    However he continued to press his false narrative so yes I did escalate my concerns, because I do feel he is a danger to the Vegas community. This is something everyone should do regarding psychopaths. Stop being afraid to speak up when these goofballs go off the rails. It saves lives

  15. #15
    Anyone who reported the threat to the police would not be stupid enough to confirm it here. Why put a target on your back?

    With that said, a gambler I know has received multiple death threats in the past 24 hours from a bookie. Believe me the police have the case. It's a shakedown. And the same shakedown has been tried before and has been written about online.

    This time a copycat is responsible as the first idiot was arrested.

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Anyone who reported the threat to the police would not be stupid enough to confirm it here. Why put a target on your back?

    With that said, a gambler I know has received multiple death threats in the past 24 hours from a bookie. Believe me the police have the case. It's a shakedown. And the same shakedown has been tried before and has been written about online.

    This time a copycat is responsible as the first idiot was arrested.
    Just more confirmation of your gambling degeneracy.
    FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP

  17. #17
    No Max. It has nothing to do with me. But it has to do with some guys who claimed to be APs and messed with the wrong people with their five figure sports bets.

    Now they're hoping the police can get the assholes and the death threats aren't real.

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    My unbiased opinion, which is generally not allowed on VCT, is that the decision to let MDawg run rampant on Wov comes from higher up than Shackleford. I think it's a money decision by the Serbs. They may be making affiliate money on online baccarat because of MDawg. And hope to get more. If that's the case then Shack has to stand down.
    You may be right Mick, but I’m not putting it past Shack to be enjoying perks from hanging around MDawg. You can call him a sellout for doing it but it’s probably an AP play from him and honestly most of us mean shit to him so why not? He’s a strange individual most that know him say, so why wouldn’t he? KJ will say credibility and legacy but neither pays the bills or put a kid through college.

    At least I like to think that’s how he justifies it. And even his “friends” on here would agree he has been more than biased toward MDawg.

    The only thing that surprised me, early on, was that Shackleford and the mods disallowed sarcastic spoof posts regarding MDawg. I did a parallel storyline that made it as a post at first, but then it was pulled. It didn't even mention MDawg by name. It was a straightforward spoof featuring my famous late cousin, E.R. Dietz (so named because his football bets are so accurate, they send bookies to the E.R.). Other people did the same as me and their posts also got yanked.

    I thought it was an odd step to take -- banning posts that never even mentioned MDawg. That's a very subjective thing to do. It requires a real bending of rules since MDawg is never mentioned, and it highlights that specific rules have nothing to do with it. Since no rules cover it, somebody is working overtime to protect MDawg from even a little discomfort.

    This was two full years ago. I even wasted time my last trip to LV, as I took pics of various things and had a full, photo-laden parody of MDawg ready for WoV. I had monopoly money I bought online (like Rob, but actual money from the game) strewn on a bed with Disney watches, pics of the high limit baccarat at the Nugget, pics of my "suites" (featuring the Greyhound Station and grates behind the El Cortez). I had an entire parody narrative ready to roll, but Shackleford banned it.

    Oh well, maybe it'll show up somewhere.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Anyone who reported the threat to the police would not be stupid enough to confirm it here. Why put a target on your back?


    With that said, a gambler I know has received multiple death threats in the past 24 hours from a bookie. Believe me the police have the case. It's a shakedown. And the same shakedown has been tried before and has been written about online.

    This time a copycat is responsible as the first idiot was arrested.
    Just more confirmation of your gambling degeneracy.

    Alan's comments hearken back to my youth.

    When I was 17, we ran some errands for folks. We routinely collected 5K or 10K in cash (which was equivalent to at least 15K to 30K back then) from people. Occasionally, a person was short. Most of the folks we collected from actually thought we were the "bookies," which was quite a tribute since we were both just 17. When one of these people was short, my friend made a call. And the people who were short were never again short, which was a tribute to whatever the folks at The Jester Club had said to them.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Anyone who reported the threat to the police would not be stupid enough to confirm it here. Why put a target on your back?


    With that said, a gambler I know has received multiple death threats in the past 24 hours from a bookie. Believe me the police have the case. It's a shakedown. And the same shakedown has been tried before and has been written about online.

    This time a copycat is responsible as the first idiot was arrested.
    Just more confirmation of your gambling degeneracy.

    Alan's comments hearken back to my youth.

    When I was 17, we ran some errands for folks. We routinely collected 5K or 10K in cash (which was equivalent to at least 15K to 30K back then) from people. Occasionally, a person was short. Most of the folks we collected from actually thought we were the "bookies," which was quite a tribute since we were both just 17. When one of these people was short, my friend made a call. And the people who were short were never again short, which was a tribute to whatever the folks at The Jester Club had said to them.

    I'm wondering what kind of debt would result in a death threat these days, with inflation and all. No sense killing someone unless they are so high profile, it's embarrassing to your overall business that they stuck you. I would think it's gotta approach six digits. Then it's a tough business decision.

    Who knows? The first time I ever made a bet, the guys running the shop were debating what to take from a guy who owed them $400. They settled on his wooden leg. Being 16 at the time, we thought they were just telling a story at the next table to impress upon us the seriousness of paying your debts. But when we walked out the door, the guy coming up towards us from down the street had a wooden leg, so that undercut our "they were just telling a story" theory.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 12
    Last Post: 08-29-2023, 01:35 PM
  2. Eliot and Don Feud
    By Midwest Player in forum Las Vegas
    Replies: 136
    Last Post: 10-20-2020, 04:36 PM
  3. If you are 60+ in Italy & are really sick ...
    By Ex-AP in forum Coronavirus
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 03-27-2020, 10:53 AM
  4. Anyone Getting Sick and Tried of These Thoughts and Prayers Beside Me
    By Midwest Player in forum Whatever's On Your Mind
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-14-2019, 04:03 PM
  5. Craps players, this makes me sick.
    By Alan Mendelson in forum Las Vegas
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 01-10-2013, 09:21 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •