The Mdawg "challenge"

[kewlJ]

I know some of you aren't keeping up to date with the soap opera of Mdawg, so I thought I would bring you up to date. Your welcome.

For the last six months the Mdawg person has included a challenge or financial wager to anyone challenging his claims, which he used as his signature line so that it appeared in each of his hundreds of posts. In it he stated he and the challenger could figure a way to prove his claims to the challenger's satisfaction.

So in the aftermath of this Mdawgs recent escalating claims involving a nearly quarter million dollar win in one session, a challenger did come forward. He didn't want to make himself known for obvious reasons, so he worked through Shackleford to find out if his terms would be agreed to. Remember this was supposed to be proven to the challenger's satisfaction. Well guess what they weren't. This challenger had a way to prove without a doubt and Mdawg could not, would not agree.

And low and behold Mdawg's "challenge" signature rather quietly has disappeared. I find it rather interesting that when this Mdawg character reneges on something or rolls back a lie, it is done rather quietly as opposed to all the bluster of his claims and such. Case in point would be last fall, when after claiming to have won almost every day for months and months, to the tune of over half million dollars, the "correction" was a single line at the end of a long post that read: "additionally, Wizard and I went over my records for this trip, and I am about even". $500k to about even....no big deal. And Shackleford oddly praised him for his honesty. What a scam these TWO are perpetrating.

[MisterV]

I blocked douchedawg long ago so his inane posts no longer pollute my vision.

Seems to me that he and Rob are alike in that both have made outlandish, bullshit claims, but they differ in that I laugh at Rob's but groan and want to throw rotten fruit at douchedawg's.

He gives a bad name to lawyers, if such a thing is possible.

[kewlJ]

Now after that "minor" correction last fall where he rolled back months and months of claims of winning totaling over 500k, to "about even", with one short line, this Mdawg character started all over again, claiming winning, winning, winning, which after this latest escalation claim of nearly a quarter million dollars puts him close to a million dollars ahead since that "rollback: last fall.

Big picture: since last March, excluding two breaks totaling a couple weeks that he returned to California, this Mdawg person claims to have lived in Vegas for 16 months now (or 15 of 16 months) in comped suites, while winning a million dollars. Seriously, I ask anyone...is this the way Las Vegas works?

Now here is the thing. Everything about this person's claims fits, if you change one thing....all the winning. If he is a losing player, playing higher stakes, everything falls into place, all the comped suites, and other high end comps, the private tables, all the high priced meals he shows up to try to impress, everything falls into place. Switch winning player to losing player and this is exactly the way Las Vegas works! This dude is just conveniently leaving out all his losing days and sessions and only telling us about the winning days.

No one doubts he is a rich dude that can afford his play and losses to receive the comps he gets. It is just so fucked up that he wants and needs to pretend that he is a winning player to boot.

[kewlJ]

And one more odd thing: This Mdawg person claims to have a wife or girlfriend (I think girlfriend) accompanying him. The female companion doesn't gamble according to Mdawg. So what has she done in Vegas for the last 16 months? Shop and visit the spa, according to Mdawg. Really? 16 months? 16 months away from her friends in California? Small detail, but just another piece of the puzzle that doesn't fit.

[The Boz]

And one more odd thing: This Mdawg person claims to have a wife or girlfriend (I think girlfriend) accompanying him. The female companion doesn't gamble according to Mdawg. So what has she done in Vegas for the last 16 months? Shop and visit the spa, according to Mdawg. Really? 16 months? 16 months away from her friends in California? Small detail, but just another piece of the puzzle that doesn't fit.

I would have a comment that would make sense in multiple ways about spending her time hanging out with someone who seems to be a pervert, but that’s not fair to her since she really isn’t claiming anything. Then again the MDawg persona doesn’t seem like a cuck. His claims make it seem he is more the stud that would be doing another guys wife while the guy enjoys being the cuck.

Seed probably knows a lot more about this than I do. This entire KJ is a escort, Seed is a swinger is way out of my league. I don’t even understand why they dislike each other, other than the slight that he apologized for multiple times. And is something that guy this thread is about was involved in promoting.

[kewlJ]

This entire KJ is a escort,

Boz, it offends and disappoints me that you would even repeat this. I am no more a male escort that you are.

A common tactic of these troll types is to make up and repeat a lie hundreds of times. the theory is that if you repeat the lie often enough it becomes accepted as fact. Please Boz, don't help him by repeating this lie.

I have been on half dozen gambling forums for 16 years. I am on them because my life is blackjack and gambling (although I don't consider it gambling). It is what I do for a living. I mean who ever heard of a male escort or even female escort scouring gambling forums looking for "clients". Stupidest thing I have heard because most/many on gambling forums are gamblers who have lost their disposable money, right?

This guy seedvalue is a clown making up lies and you should know they are lies because he has these secret people that he won't reveal that can verify his nonsense. Please Boz, don't give this nut job the oxygen he is seeking with this nonsense.

And as for his "swinger" status....yuk! Who cares? Do You? I sure as hell don't. I thought "swingers" were something that died in the 70's.

[The Boz]

This entire KJ is a escort,

Boz, it offends and disappoints me that you would even repeat this. I am no more a male escort that you are.
.

How do know I’m not? Maybe I made up that entire worked hard and owned a business stuff. 😀

Maybe it’s all a (very) long con on my end to get Tasha or Nathan on a date and take him/her for all their money.

[Treeshade]

Now after that "minor" correction last fall where he rolled back months and months of claims of winning totaling over 500k, to "about even", with one short line, this Mdawg character started all over again, claiming winning, winning, winning, which after this latest escalation claim of nearly a quarter million dollars puts him close to a million dollars ahead since that "rollback: last fall.

Big picture: since last March, excluding two breaks totaling a couple weeks that he returned to California, this Mdawg person claims to have lived in Vegas for 16 months now (or 15 of 16 months) in comped suites, while winning a million dollars. Seriously, I ask anyone...is this the way Las Vegas works?

Now here is the thing. Everything about this person's claims fits, if you change one thing....all the winning. If he is a losing player, playing higher stakes, everything falls into place, all the comped suites, and other high end comps, the private tables, all the high priced meals he shows up to try to impress, everything falls into place. Switch winning player to losing player and this is exactly the way Las Vegas works! This dude is just conveniently leaving out all his losing days and sessions and only telling us about the winning days.

No one doubts he is a rich dude that can afford his play and losses to receive the comps he gets. It is just so fucked up that he wants and needs to pretend that he is a winning player to boot.

Once again you show how stupid you are.

I don’t care or know if mdawg is winning.

But people who understand advantage play something a fake like you does not can get comped at Madawgs level for as long as they want

[kewlJ]

But people who understand advantage play something a fake like you does not can get comped at Madawgs level for as long as they want

No sir, they can NOT! This isn't machine play and your multi-card tricks. What this person is claiming is very high end table game play at a high end casino, in the high limit area, at a private table.

Under these conditions that he is claiming there are probably several pit along with a surveillance tech watching JUST him. There is no rat-holing or other methods of hiding anything. Even if a player did some of this, at a private table it is a matter of counting the rack before and after he plays. They will know exactly, what he has won or lost.

If you would take your "hate KJ" hat off and show just a little objectivity, you would know that.

[Treeshade]

But people who understand advantage play something a fake like you does not can get comped at Madawgs level for as long as they want

No sir, they can NOT! This isn't machine play and your multi-card tricks. What this person is claiming is very high end table game play at a high end casino, in the high limit area, at a private table.

Under these conditions that he is claiming there are probably several pit along with a surveillance tech watching JUST him. There is no rat-holing or other methods of hiding anything. Even if a player did some of this, at a private table it is a matter of counting the rack before and after he plays. They will know exactly, what he has won or lost.

If you would take your "hate KJ" hat off and show just a little objectivity, you would know that.

You didn’t say this gunzzzzz you made a general statement that it’s impossible without losing. There’s ways to do it on tables as well. I ran a baccarat play for a few years in Vegas. Three to four people it was a simple play and the casinos there eventually implement a simple solution to stop us.

On a side note I can’t wait for this to happen to me.

“. When these people come crumbling down and are completely exposed for the fraud that they are, as recently happened with the guy who posts as Rob Singer, you just look like a bigger idiot (and less credible for anything you have claimed) because you hitched your star to their wagon”


You know since I’m a fraud lol

Only fraud is you bro .

Keep practicing that pool strut

[kewlJ]

“. When these people come crumbling down and are completely exposed for the fraud that they are, as recently happened with the guy who posts as Rob Singer, you just look like a bigger idiot (and less credible for anything you have claimed) because you hitched your star to their wagon”


You know since I’m a fraud lol

Where did I say you were a fraud? I said you were a scammer. And that was based on info that you were JWT, which you claim not to be and Dan Druff has confirmed. So I apologize for that, for about the 4th time.

As to who you are, I don't know, nor much care. You claim to be, and I have no reason to doubt you are doing advantage plays much above my pay grade. Good for you. Most AP's are above my pay grade.

You seem to want to go to war and have gotten nasty and personal attacking my sexuality, when there is no real need. I have no issue with you, at least at the moment. If you want to claim things that are impossible like Singer or Mdawg, then maybe we can talk. Otherwise, just calm down and have a good 4th. Have a hot dog and burger on the grill and a few beers or something.

[AxelWolf]

@KJ and Seedvalue

Get a room all ready!

[MisterV]

Seed obviously was "short-changed" by mother nature so he constructed this fantasy to take his mind off how shitty his life really is.

It seems to be a common tale, told through the centuries by others in the same sad boat.

[Treeshade]

Seed obviously was "short-changed" by mother nature so he constructed this fantasy to take his mind off how shitty his life really is.

It seems to be a common tale, told through the centuries by others in the same sad boat.

Yawn

But still not willing to bet dick head to dick head measurements

[MisterV]

But still not willing to bet dick head to dick head measurements

Dude, I yield to you; no question, you are THE "dick head" on this forum.

[PositiveVariance]

I followed the MDAWG drama when he first appeared over on WOV fairly regularly, however like most in the past year or so will occasionally take a look at the thread.

First of all, I am almost certain there will be no terms that are agreed to between MDAWG and a potential challenger. This is for a number of reason I can get into on another post.

My advice to a potential challenger:

As you know, MDAWG doesn’t give the exact date of his sessions. This is a huge problem to a potential challenger. At the bottom of his post for the longest time it read:
“If any one doubts that any one, just any one of the session reports I present during this trip is not accurate, throw down the red flag!”

So basically he is wanting a challenge for just one single session. There are so many issues with this. However, for now I will just stick to this and in later post I will suggest the best ways I think it should be done.

In his current “sessions” he is on day #49 as of July 3rd. His first post (#1) in this session was posted on approximately May 7th. So roughly 47 sessions in 57 days. MDAWG has stated for privacy reasons theses sessions are in no particular order and they can span anywhere in that 57 days. This creates a HUGE problem for the challenger.

Let’s take for example “Day #38” which was posted on June 12th. A win of $16,800 was claimed. This actual playing session could have happened anywhere from May 7th to June 12th. Actually it’s likley it may have even happened before that date. But let’s go with the earliest date of May 7th. So this is a span of roughly 36 days that MDAWG could have “won”’ the $16,800.

Now if MDAWG was challenged on “Day #38”. He can “pull” from at least 36 days of play and any one of the casinos he has played at to get an amount close to 16.8k. So for example, on May 20th let’s say he had a win at “Ceasars” for 27k. Later in the day he plays at Cosmo and lossed 10.2k for a net total of +16.8k. Now, obviously with a challenge there would have to be some flexibility in the actual amount won or loss due to tips, casino personnel slightly over reporting or under reporting the amount won/loss. I think an agreement of 20% over or under for the session total is reasonable. So if we use “Day 38” as an example. The claim was up $16.8k. A 20% shortage would be $13,440. A 20% overage is $20,160. What this means is he would only have to find a day with a “net win” from $13,440 to $20,160 during a 36 day span.



Shit, it just erased about 50% of what I wrote, I will retype and post below....

[PositiveVariance]

Continued...



Let’s say during this time period MDAWG has played at 7 casinos. He would have 7 casinos to “pull numbers from”. So he would be able to pull from this group of casinos. Its possible that he has something like the following I listed below for a single days play. Let’s say it’s day #31, posted June 12th for a “win of $16.8k”.

Example:
Casino #1 loss 15.5k
Casino #2 won 27k
Casino #3 did not play
Casino #4 loss 10.2k
Casino #5 did not play
Casino #6 loss 5k
Casino #7 did not play

So as you can see by the above example, he would have lost $3,700 on the day. However, let’s say 2 of the casinos are NOT mentioned, when he gives the challenger his results for that specific day. It would APPEAR he won $16.8k which would appear to meet “day #31’s” results.

MY ADVICE TO A CHALLENGER:

The following information must be sent to a 3rd party such as Wizard PRIOR to the challenge. (Actually after I got to thinking about it, the challenger needs to be sent this info as well. There will be specifics as what needs to be challenged).

1. PRIOR to the challenge taking place, a list of every “day” that was posted in the thread must be linked to the ACTUAL Calendar day that the wagers took place. For example “Day 31” was posted on June 12th, but the actual day was May 10th.

2. All casinos that had a win/loss/ break even in ANY of the session totals must be listed.

3.The exact dollar amount won for each day along with each casino played at, as well as the dollar amount won or lost at that casino must be listed.


If all of this is NOT done, MDAWG would easily be able to pick from a list of days along with “cherry pick” from the list of casinos to come to the amount listed for the specific day challenged.

Without an actual list of casinos played at, it would be impossible to conduct this challenge.

Also, remember, if MDAWG accepts the challenge. It’s likely he has the numbers in line to win. Think about it, why else would he move forward with it?


So, a challenge would need to be more than a single days session. Ideally it would need to cover a significant period of time.

An ideal challenge would be something like, “Did MDAWG win more than $100,000 from May 1st 2022 to June 1st 2022, at these 7 casinos?(list casinos)” There are to many issues with a challenge for a single day.

If someone is really interested in challenging MDAWG, PM me and I will give you a good way to conduct the challenge for both sides (MDAWG and Challenger) to where it is fair.

Got a lot of this post deleted. Don’t want to retype it all, but I think I
got my point across...

[kewlJ]

Nice PositiveVariance! This is a rather detailed explanation of what I have been saying all along. He is only reporting or mostly reporting his wins and not all his losses.

All I can say is get ready, because he will soon be calling you every name in the book at other forums.

Last year the guy was staying at Cosmo mostly and playing Cosmo mostly, with occasional play at Wynn/Encore and a very little bit at Resorts World when they opened last summer. But the vast majority of his play was at Cosmo.

I think it really threw him for a loop when I got a hold of some records that showed he was 100k in the red at Cosmo when all his winning claims had him up 500K. That forced that one line retraction of being "about even". He absolutely hated that someone could find his actual play records. And that is when he really began to spread his play out. I think he is now staying and playing at both Ceasars and Cosmo, along with Wynn/Encore, Resorts World, plus has mentioned playing other places like Red Rock.

Like I said that really threw him for a loop. So now if someone gets a hold of some records, he can say, "yeah but that is only one place. I have greater winnings elsewhere".

[PositiveVariance]

Nice PositiveVariance! This is a rather detailed explanation of what I have been saying all along. he is only reporting or mostly reporting his wins and not all his losses.

All I can say is get ready, because he will soon be calling you every name in the book at other forums.

This would be the best way to conduct a challenge:
Play a certain number of shoes. I say at the minimum of 20. Ideally around 50 shoes. Set a minimum and maximum bet so martingale couldn’t be used near the end out of desperation to catch up. obviously the more shoes the better to get through variance. Obviously the challenger would view the live play.

[PositiveVariance]

KJ, So the session that Wizard witnessed, the one DarkOz put up $2,000, is it believed variance was on his side that session or was there something else going on?