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  1. #21
    Continued...



    Let’s say during this time period MDAWG has played at 7 casinos. He would have 7 casinos to “pull numbers from”. So he would be able to pull from this group of casinos. Its possible that he has something like the following I listed below for a single days play. Let’s say it’s day #31, posted June 12th for a “win of $16.8k”.

    Example:
    Casino #1 loss 15.5k
    Casino #2 won 27k
    Casino #3 did not play
    Casino #4 loss 10.2k
    Casino #5 did not play
    Casino #6 loss 5k
    Casino #7 did not play

    So as you can see by the above example, he would have lost $3,700 on the day. However, let’s say 2 of the casinos are NOT mentioned, when he gives the challenger his results for that specific day. It would APPEAR he won $16.8k which would appear to meet “day #31’s” results.

    MY ADVICE TO A CHALLENGER:

    The following information must be sent to a 3rd party such as Wizard PRIOR to the challenge. (Actually after I got to thinking about it, the challenger needs to be sent this info as well. There will be specifics as what needs to be challenged).

    1. PRIOR to the challenge taking place, a list of every “day” that was posted in the thread must be linked to the ACTUAL Calendar day that the wagers took place. For example “Day 31” was posted on June 12th, but the actual day was May 10th.

    2. All casinos that had a win/loss/ break even in ANY of the session totals must be listed.

    3.The exact dollar amount won for each day along with each casino played at, as well as the dollar amount won or lost at that casino must be listed.


    If all of this is NOT done, MDAWG would easily be able to pick from a list of days along with “cherry pick” from the list of casinos to come to the amount listed for the specific day challenged.

    Without an actual list of casinos played at, it would be impossible to conduct this challenge.

    Also, remember, if MDAWG accepts the challenge. It’s likely he has the numbers in line to win. Think about it, why else would he move forward with it?


    So, a challenge would need to be more than a single days session. Ideally it would need to cover a significant period of time.

    An ideal challenge would be something like, “Did MDAWG win more than $100,000 from May 1st 2022 to June 1st 2022, at these 7 casinos?(list casinos)” There are to many issues with a challenge for a single day.

    If someone is really interested in challenging MDAWG, PM me and I will give you a good way to conduct the challenge for both sides (MDAWG and Challenger) to where it is fair.

    Got a lot of this post deleted. Don’t want to retype it all, but I think I
    got my point across...
    Last edited by PositiveVariance; 07-04-2022 at 03:40 PM.

  2. #22
    Nice PositiveVariance! This is a rather detailed explanation of what I have been saying all along. He is only reporting or mostly reporting his wins and not all his losses.

    All I can say is get ready, because he will soon be calling you every name in the book at other forums.

    Last year the guy was staying at Cosmo mostly and playing Cosmo mostly, with occasional play at Wynn/Encore and a very little bit at Resorts World when they opened last summer. But the vast majority of his play was at Cosmo.

    I think it really threw him for a loop when I got a hold of some records that showed he was 100k in the red at Cosmo when all his winning claims had him up 500K. That forced that one line retraction of being "about even". He absolutely hated that someone could find his actual play records. And that is when he really began to spread his play out. I think he is now staying and playing at both Ceasars and Cosmo, along with Wynn/Encore, Resorts World, plus has mentioned playing other places like Red Rock.

    Like I said that really threw him for a loop. So now if someone gets a hold of some records, he can say, "yeah but that is only one place. I have greater winnings elsewhere".
    Last edited by kewlJ; 07-04-2022 at 03:52 PM.
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  3. #23
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Nice PositiveVariance! This is a rather detailed explanation of what I have been saying all along. he is only reporting or mostly reporting his wins and not all his losses.

    All I can say is get ready, because he will soon be calling you every name in the book at other forums.

    This would be the best way to conduct a challenge:
    Play a certain number of shoes. I say at the minimum of 20. Ideally around 50 shoes. Set a minimum and maximum bet so martingale couldn’t be used near the end out of desperation to catch up. obviously the more shoes the better to get through variance. Obviously the challenger would view the live play.

  4. #24
    KJ, So the session that Wizard witnessed, the one DarkOz put up $2,000, is it believed variance was on his side that session or was there something else going on?

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    KJ, So the session that Wizard witnessed, the one DarkOz put up $2,000, is it believed variance was on his side that session or was there something else going on?
    Well, yes and no. That one, very small sample size of a session was not going to prove anything as far as whether Mdawg could win constantly as he claimed. It was a silly wager and I have no idea why darkoz made it or what he was intending to prove.

    But the wager was set up in such a way that all Mdawg had to do was win a small amount and he won the wager.

    So I believe he set up his play betting small at first and if he got ahead, just milking it until the end and he would win. If he fell behind early he was prepared to bet more (progressive wagering) whether martingale, or some other progressive amount until he won one of the larger bets and was ahead and then he would go back to milking it until he won.

    It is my understanding he never fell behind, that he did win early and milked it for a small win. Much smaller amount than he had been reporting at the time.

    AND that is exactly why he made Wizard agree to a non-disclosure agreement. If it had been necessary for Mdawg to start betting progressively, Wizard would have immediately known this and reported it. Mdawg didn't want that. So he silenced Wizard.

    So yeah, he had good positive variance (like your name) and didn't need to do anything else but milk that for a small win. But he was prepared to martingale or other progressive bet if need be, which would have given him the best chance to finish ahead for a small meaningless sample size like that.
    Rob Singer / Robert Argentino: Failed Advantage Player, lifelong degenerate losing gambler and now failed gambling forums troll.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Seed obviously was "short-changed" by mother nature so he constructed this fantasy to take his mind off how shitty his life really is.

    It seems to be a common tale, told through the centuries by others in the same sad boat.
    Yawn

    But still not willing to bet dick head to dick head measurements

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    Originally Posted by Seedvalue
    But still not willing to bet dick head to dick head measurements
    Dude, I yield to you; no question, you are THE "dick head" on this forum.
    What, Me Worry?

  8. #28
    I hope I am not stepping on anyone's toes here that shared information with me, but I am now aware of two different well respected members, here and at least one also at WoV, that were preparing to take Mdawg up on this challenge that has been his signature line at WoV for nearly a year. Both were negotiating through Shackleford the terms of this challenge.

    So all of the sudden a couple days ago Mdawg abruptly announced the end of his current Las Vegas stay and trip. This is significant because the terms of his challenge signature (which has now been removed) state "during his current trip".

    So with not one but two challengers, who both would have likely been able to prove his claims false, he pulls the rug out by abruptly ending the trip.

    It is just astonishing that Shackleford allows this to continue. The only explanation can be that he is now full blown part of this troll by Mdawg. Shackleford is either being paid off by Mdawg (my suspicion) or he or someone else at that forum thinks that continuing bullshit is good for the forum (draws more views). But all it really does is drive away more legit members and players who say enough is enough. WOV is down to about 100 members every day (less than 100 on some weekend) when it used to be 300 a day.
    Rob Singer / Robert Argentino: Failed Advantage Player, lifelong degenerate losing gambler and now failed gambling forums troll.

  9. #29
    It's ridiculous to think that you can prove or dis-prove anything over the course of a really small samples size, hey hey.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ
    I Mdawg abruptly announced the end of his current Las Vegas stay and trip.

    The camel fucker probably went on Hajj to Mecca.
    Last edited by MisterV; 07-10-2022 at 07:12 PM.
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  11. #31
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I hope I am not stepping on anyone's toes here that shared information with me, but I am now aware of two different well respected members, here and at least one also at WoV, that were preparing to take Mdawg up on this challenge that has been his signature line at WoV for nearly a year. Both were negotiating through Shackleford the terms of this challenge.

    So all of the sudden a couple days ago Mdawg abruptly announced the end of his current Las Vegas stay and trip. This is significant because the terms of his challenge signature (which has now been removed) state "during his current trip".

    So with not one but two challengers, who both would have likely been able to prove his claims false, he pulls the rug out by abruptly ending the trip.

    It is just astonishing that Shackleford allows this to continue. The only explanation can be that he is now full blown part of this troll by Mdawg. Shackleford is either being paid off by Mdawg (my suspicion) or he or someone else at that forum thinks that continuing bullshit is good for the forum (draws more views). But all it really does is drive away more legit members and players who say enough is enough. WOV is down to about 100 members every day (less than 100 on some weekend) when it used to be 300 a day.
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  12. #32
    Figured I’d throw this one here. From MDawg at WoV, after all this time we find out he knows a (very) little about card counting and because he is so special, the house allows him to bet max during high counts.

    “ In Blackjack if the count is high and a long sequence has passed with no 10s/faces/aces, I'll jack the bet all the way to table max / special limits max, figuring I'll catch a 10/face/ace on the first card dealt and then with the deck so rich in more of the same, hope to catch another. There are other situations where I actually know that the first card out the gate will be a 10 or face, which is MY card. And in those situations jacking the bet usually works out well. But sometimes it works out where the dealer gets the good card face up and you end up with a hard sixteen with a million 10s coming”

    Just reading that post that tells you how full of shit he is in multiple ways. Even the most amateur card counter ever sees it.

    The fantasy Vegas he describes doesn’t exist PERIOD. A honest Wizard or someone would call this out immediately but he won’t.

    Unless of course, the Pit Boss and dealers are in on it, but that’s just crazy Boz talk.

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Figured I’d throw this one here. From MDawg at WoV, after all this time we find out he knows a (very) little about card counting and because he is so special, the house allows him to bet max during high counts.

    “ In Blackjack if the count is high and a long sequence has passed with no 10s/faces/aces, I'll jack the bet all the way to table max / special limits max, figuring I'll catch a 10/face/ace on the first card dealt and then with the deck so rich in more of the same, hope to catch another. There are other situations where I actually know that the first card out the gate will be a 10 or face, which is MY card. And in those situations jacking the bet usually works out well. But sometimes it works out where the dealer gets the good card face up and you end up with a hard sixteen with a million 10s coming”

    Just reading that post that tells you how full of shit he is in multiple ways. Even the most amateur card counter ever sees it.

    The fantasy Vegas he describes doesn’t exist PERIOD. A honest Wizard or someone would call this out immediately but he won’t.

    Unless of course, the Pit Boss and dealers are in on it, but that’s just crazy Boz talk.
    You mean the Las Vegas this person is describing doesn't exist?? You don't say Boz!!

    From the moment this person began his thread, entitled "the adventures of..." it has been nothing but pure fantasy.

    He has alluded to card counting a number of times now. Never came out and said it, but alluded to it. The idea that a player, who claims he was once banned at multiple casinos for card counting, would be allowed to play openly, in the high limit room (with multiples sets of eyes on him) of one of the sweatiest casinos that uses the most advanced technology to identify card counters and is one of the most aggressive in reporting to the databases, is just pure fantasy. It is as much fantasy as 18 y.o.'s in a row.

    The facts are that a player can still count cards in Las Vegas, but you have to work at it. Play short sessions and move around a lot, so as not to score huge wins that someone has to answer for. Identify and play limits that are better tolerated and accepted and will also keep the wins within accepted range. Play at busier times in the shadow of players betting bigger. Forget about comps, try to play unrated as much as possible.

    When I read this, the same thought immediately popped into my mind as yours Boz, why isn't Wizard saying something. And I think we all know the answer to that. There is no "honest" Wizard in this matter. And anyone else that would say something has been removed and is forbidden from doing so.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 07-20-2022 at 06:42 AM.
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  14. #34
    Any semi sharp player can see how full of shit he is. People who aren't sharp believe all kinds of retarded shit when it comes to gambling, so who cares whether or not they believe him. WOZ is a forum for people who aren't sharp.

    Let cunts be cunts.

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    Originally Posted by jdaewoo View Post
    Any semi sharp player can see how full of shit he is. People who aren't sharp believe all kinds of retarded shit when it comes to gambling, so who cares whether or not they believe him. WOZ is a forum for people who aren't sharp.

    Let cunts be cunts.
    The thing that first struck me when I went on forums after a lifetime of operating solo was how gambling-clueless people were, even people who were allegedly expert at something. I was shocked, because I was actually learning stuff about comps and player systems and best times to eat where, but I learned just about nothing about gambling in general and absolutely nothing about what I do best. It was stunning to realize all these know-somethings knew nothing. And all of these folks thought they were jacks of all gambling trades. It's ridiculous.

    When I ran into WoV promoting the use of a "parlay analyzer," that pretty much was the fat lady singing for me regarding "forum expertise."

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by jdaewoo View Post
    Any semi sharp player can see how full of shit he is. People who aren't sharp believe all kinds of retarded shit when it comes to gambling, so who cares whether or not they believe him. WOZ is a forum for people who aren't sharp.

    Let cunts be cunts.
    The thing that first struck me when I went on forums after a lifetime of operating solo was how gambling-clueless people were, even people who were allegedly expert at something. I was shocked, because I was actually learning stuff about comps and player systems and best times to eat where, but I learned just about nothing about gambling in general and absolutely nothing about what I do best. It was stunning to realize all these know-somethings knew nothing. And all of these folks thought they were jacks of all gambling trades. It's ridiculous.

    When I ran into WoV promoting the use of a "parlay analyzer," that pretty much was the fat lady singing for me regarding "forum expertise."
    I can't for the life of me figure out why you are so stuck on debunking parlays. They are a legit way to gain an advantage in situations where you normally couldn't. There are situations where parlays can achieve a much higher % and earn than straight betting, even if you were a good handicapper.

    A parlay analyzer is no different from a VP, keno BJ, craps, or roulette analyzer, they are tools that help one determine percentages.

    Anyways, who are these know-somethings who knew nothing and who is claiming to be an expert at what? Are you an expert at sports betting?

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    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    The thing that first struck me when I went on forums after a lifetime of operating solo was how gambling-clueless people were, even people who were allegedly expert at something. I was shocked, because I was actually learning stuff about comps and player systems and best times to eat where, but I learned just about nothing about gambling in general and absolutely nothing about what I do best. It was stunning to realize all these know-somethings knew nothing. And all of these folks thought they were jacks of all gambling trades. It's ridiculous.

    When I ran into WoV promoting the use of a "parlay analyzer," that pretty much was the fat lady singing for me regarding "forum expertise."
    Only You can Prevent Forest Fires.

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    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Only You can Prevent Forest Fires.
    Actually, the "new" mantra, emblazoned on billboards and TV ads is "Only you can prevent wildfires."

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    On a barely related note...

    What, Me Worry?

  19. #39
    It is far to easy in this day and age to portray yourself as something or someone that you are not. This is especially true in the gambling field. Scammer Christopher Mitchell is a good example, not his normal antics we usually see from him, but something a little different this time. A few days ago, a member in Druff’s other forum who participants in exposing CM found an article that he believed to have been written by a professional news outlet regarding CM. The article rant and raved about CM and how he was beating the casinos at will. How he is the GOAT (Greatest OF All Time). As soon as I saw the article I knew exactly what it was. In the publishing world it is known as an advertorial. Otherwise, a “paid advertisement” and the person or business gets to say anything they want about themselves - for a few of course.

    It’s really just to easy to be “anyone you want”.



    Have a look:

    https://www.theamericanreporter.com/...-aka-the-goat/








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  20. #40
    Originally Posted by jdaewoo View Post
    Any semi sharp player can see how full of shit he is. People who aren't sharp believe all kinds of retarded shit when it comes to gambling, so who cares whether or not they believe him. WOZ is a forum for people who aren't sharp.

    Let cunts be cunts.
    ^^^^^^^^

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