"Now you've REALLY painted him into a corner."
Yeah, I feel so much pressure .... cough, cough. I'm not surprised that you couldn't figure out that Alan was trying to cover up for his previous remarks. You never were very quick.
"Now you've REALLY painted him into a corner."
Yeah, I feel so much pressure .... cough, cough. I'm not surprised that you couldn't figure out that Alan was trying to cover up for his previous remarks. You never were very quick.
Last edited by arcimede$; 05-30-2012 at 03:37 PM.
Sorry, you're the one that claimed VP writers were claiming you could win (long term) on negative machines. Not me. Let's see you back it up, please.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Arc, I have all of these books, DVDs, software from VP gurus. Not one of them tell me that I will LOSE following their advice playing, for example, 9/6 Jacks. They all tell me how to WIN using their advice.
Edited to add: Tell me one book or tutorial DVD about Video Poker that has a warning that says "if you play this negative expectation game you will lose" and I will go out and BUY IT.
And it seems to me, Arcimede$, that you should be contacting ALL of the publishers of the tutorials, the books, the tapes, the DVDs and the strategy cards and remind them that it is impossible to win over the long term. Do that. Let's see how far you get with "that business."
Last edited by Alan Mendelson; 05-30-2012 at 04:27 PM.
Well, I never did buy any books for myself. My wife has Frugal Gambler by Jean Scott but I never read it other than a couple of pages here and there. So, I don't know what they say, but you still haven't provided a single example where anyone claims you will win playing negative games. So, I can only conclude there is nothing despite your previous claims.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Originally Posted by arcimede$
In case you have forgotten how the concept of anonymous posters on the Internet works, people deduce how that person is affected by certain words, and then we're able to confirm the effect by how much and how often they deny, divert, and attempt to misdirected. In addition to your own self-imposed personal pressures at home, guess how much more mucous your "coughing" just released.
Ha-ha....now he's back in that corner that he denies exists again!Originally Posted by arcimede$
LOL wheels, you can't even keep up with the topic at hand. Better get back on those wheels and cruise to your next location while I have a huge belly laugh. Bwah hahahahahahahahaOriginally Posted by Rob.Singer
And I thought you couldn't make comments any less intelligent ... I guess I was wrong.
You just showed how much my comment bothered you.... or was it something else I said.
And thank you, my healthy wife and I very much appreciate your knowledge of what it's like being able to go places and do things. Sleep well, my friend.
Now I have a suggestion for you Mr. Arcimede$: go ahead and read their books and see that all they talk about is how to win-- even on negative expectation games. Yes, Arc, they talk about proper strategy on games like 9/6 jacks and 8/5 Bonus. Those strategies are the bread and butter of their business. And you know what? There is no warning about negative expectation games. What they say, is that over the long term, 9/6 jacks will return 99.5%. Very crafty those authors, always accenting the positive and never the negative. Because they should say -- as you point out Mr. Arcimede$ is that over the long term you will lose 0.5% playing 9/6 Jacks or Better. But if they said that no one would buy their books, would they?Originally Posted by arcimede$
No Arc, none of them ever came right out and said you will win playing negative games -- at least if you define winning as a long term profit. But don't blame me for that. Blame Dancer, Scott, Grochowski and all the other peddlers and gurus and authors and publishers for only talking about winning at negative expectation games.
You shouldn't be attacking or criticizing me, Arc, YOU should be going after the guys writing the books, selling the books, etc.
It seems that Scott and Dancer and Grochowski and all the others are hiding that "long term reality" that you are devoted to.
Last edited by Alan Mendelson; 05-31-2012 at 02:55 AM.
And let's not forget Jean Scot's famous words of wisdom where she said her EV gets a boost by bringing a paper bag to the buffets and filling them up with rolls!
Such crafty people, these advantage play vp gurus!!
I'm not defending the video poker authors -- not at all. But if a person reading 99.5% return doesn't realize he/she is going to get his ass kicked, maybe the fault lies in the US educational system. How can you read 99.5% and think, "Whoa, that's dandy?"
Yeah, authors accentuate that, but I like when Penn and Teller, in their act, say straight out, "People don't understand basic math. They come here and think 99% return is a good thing!" And everybody laughs.
If a person is teaching you 99.5% video poker, then he's teaching you how to lose. There's no mystery. If somebody can't get the definition of 99.5% right, then....well, that explains banking crises, why all those mortgages are under water, and how the lottery makes money.
Welcome to dum-dum land.
Only in your fantasies. I do get a kick out of making you look foolish, but that's about as far as it goes. But hey, keep fantasizing, it's about the only thing you have left.Originally Posted by Rob.SingerYou just showed how much my comment bothered you.... or was it something else I said.
You're a lot like the dudes claiming the end of the world was coming. I'll bet they constantly told other people how sorry they'd be when it happened. Just like you it was only a silly fantasy. How does it feel to be so lost in your own delusions you can't separate reality from fantasy? Must be a real bummer.
BTW, I shot 33 yesterday for the 9 holes I played. 6 pars and 3 birdies. Then I came home and enjoyed myself reading, surfing and watching a little TV. Have a nice green day.
No, it sounds like they clearly stated the expected return. Only in your world is that a bad thing.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Keep in mind that many of these games can be part of an overall positive play. If you have 9/6 JOB combined with .9% CB and .6% freeplay that comes out to a 1% edge. In fact, that is exactly what one could play at SouthPoint on triple point days when I was in Vegas.
Sounds to me like the authors were providing valuable information to people who know how to comprehend English. However, I've noted several times that you have a problem in that area. Instead of attacking these people I think you should be taking a close look in the mirror. Sorry to be blunt, but that is reality.
So many words....so many self-confidence building explanations....so much frustrationOriginally Posted by arcimede$
I just hope you remembered to bring home the Burger King!!!!!!!!
Now we have something concrete to discuss. So, tell me where I can find this deal now: 9/6 Jacks plus 0.9% cash back plus 0.6% free play. If you can find it, and identify the casino, you win!Originally Posted by arcimede$
Unfortunately about two months ago, Harrah's Rincon removed all of their 9/6 Jacks machines and the best you'll find now is 8/5 Jacks (yes, you are better off playing 8/5 Bonus which continues). They also cut back on free play and cash back never came close to 0.9%. Caesars LV has no cash back, though you will find 9/6 Jacks at higher denominations (not at $1 by the way, Arc). There is no regular free play program at Caesars though they sometimes do give a free play promotion in lieu of gift cards.
I haven't been in Vegas for 3 years, so I can't help you out (and I wouldn't even if I knew). It's called "scouting" and it's something I did as an AP in Vegas. If you want to find good plays you have to get off your butt and do the work.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Now, this kind of effort is not something everyone likes to do. Most people don't care enough which is fine. However, if you are going to complain without doing the necessary work, then you're just a whiner. Either accept what you have and quit complaining or go out there and find the good plays. I just saw a comment on vpfree where Jean Scott mentioned a good promotion she got this month.
Translation: he REMEMBERED the BK, only she didn't want mayo on her whopper
Ok, Arc, I called your bluff. It doesn't exist anymore. What's your next theoretical argument?Originally Posted by arcimede$
Is it a coin flip maybe? LOL
And there's that corner again that arci's so frightfully afraid of!
From what Frank was saying he's still playing on a regular basis. So, it does exist. What's your next excuse for whining?Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
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