Three morons arrested for bending cards at Vegas casinos

[Dan Druff]

https://www.8newsnow.com/crime/trio-...ds-of-dollars/

I guess this occurred a year ago, but they're just facing the music now.

They hit Paris for $126k, Wynn for $19k, and Planet Hollywood for an unknown amount.

One of them had "chest pains" after getting caught, and was brought to the hospital. LOL

All three have Armenian sounding names.

They were doing this at Let It Ride and Mississippi Stud.

[tableplay]

https://www.8newsnow.com/crime/trio-...ds-of-dollars/

I guess this occurred a year ago, but they're just facing the music now.

They hit Paris for $126k, Wynn for $19k, and Planet Hollywood for an unknown amount.

One of them had "chest pains" after getting caught, and was brought to the hospital. LOL

All three have Armenian sounding names.

They were doing this at Let It Ride and Mississippi Stud.

They should have stuck to Absentee Ballot harvesting since it's clear they were unwilling to put in enough practice time.

[jbjb]

"The casino manager at Paris Las Vegas contacted the Nevada Gaming Control Board on July 4, 2021, to report that Simityan, of California, and the two other suspects “were actively bending cards during their gameplay,” investigators wrote in court documents."

Instead of calling gaming and waiting, STOP THE MOTHER FUCKERS WHILE THEY'RE ACTIVELY DOING IT!!!!

[monet]

"The casino manager at Paris Las Vegas contacted the Nevada Gaming Control Board on July 4, 2021, to report that Simityan, of California, and the two other suspects “were actively bending cards during their gameplay,” investigators wrote in court documents."

Instead of calling gaming and waiting, STOP THE MOTHER FUCKERS WHILE THEY'RE ACTIVELY DOING IT!!!!

I just realized that you don't hole card for a living.
You're a Fucking NARC!

[PositiveVariance]

I love a good casino cheating story. Much different than scammers that cheat players, oh I despise these scammers. My guess is this team has won much more money than what authorities are aware of. They likely used their real name on their players card. After they get caught, if playing with a players card, the first thing they do is check for activity at sister casinos. Planet Hollywood is Caesars owned. “Officials also learned the same three suspects were bending cards the day before at Planet Hollywood.” Unless you have a really good cheat move, stay away from cheat moves in Sister casinos, especially card bending (one of the oldest cheats).

I have talked bout Richard Marcus on this forum before. He was a successful casino cheat for several decades. He has talked about “foreign cheat teams” that have also successfully implemented their cheat move for decades without getting caught - cheating casinos, worldwide. He even tells a funny story how he ran into one of these cheat teams - 3rd or 4th generation cheat team from Italy in the 1970’s. This is when he first learned who they were. He had bumped into them several times in the years that had followed, but could not figure out what their “move” was. In the early 1990’s he and his team go to the Bahamas. A member of Marcus’ team goes to a Roulette table (not recognizing the Italian cheat team). The cheat team and Marcus guy had both performed their cheat move on the felt at exactly the same time and chips flew everywhere. He soon realized these were the same guys that he first encountered in the late 1970’s. They were still at the cheating!

Marcus eventually figured out what their “move” was! He called it the “Roulette slide”. He said next to his infamous move the “Savannah”, the “Roulette Slide” is the 2nd best move he has ever seen. Marcus said he had shown Bill Zender both of these moves and he agreed.

If you want to read about the “Roulette Slide”...

https://www.888casino.com/blog/roulette-slide?amp


As the camera systems develop many of these cheat moves are more difficult to preform, and get away with. But when you hear casino surveillance being interviewed and they say “All casino cheaters will eventually be caught”, this is NOT true. Most will be caught, yes. There are a handful of cheats that have perfected a cheat move and have spent thousands of hours practicing outside of a casino until the move is seamless.


For the record: I love reading and watching casino cheat moves, but I would never cross the line from AP to Cheating.

[jbjb]

"The casino manager at Paris Las Vegas contacted the Nevada Gaming Control Board on July 4, 2021, to report that Simityan, of California, and the two other suspects “were actively bending cards during their gameplay,” investigators wrote in court documents."

Instead of calling gaming and waiting, STOP THE MOTHER FUCKERS WHILE THEY'RE ACTIVELY DOING IT!!!!

I just realized that you don't hole card for a living.
You're a Fucking NARC!

Only against fat ass video poker players!

[jdaewoo]

I can't see how surveillance would miss sliding onto the winning number at roulette for very long.

I read about a roulette cheating method that seemed pretty clever. No idea if it was fabricated or actually worked.

They would bury a large denom chip under some small denom chips and bet red/black at the last moment. Two reds on a purple for example. There was a spotter at the wheel. When they won they wouldn't do anything except correct the dealer when the dealer tried to pay $15 to a $500/$5/$5 stack. When they lost the spotter would yell something at the wheel as a distraction as soon as they saw the ball land on the losing color while the bettor pulls back his losing bet. If caught he would act drunk and sheepishly toss back 3 reds.

Obviously you're only getting away with this once per table, but run up and down the strip doing this on a crowded Friday and I can see it turning a decent profit.

[PositiveVariance]

I can't see how surveillance would miss sliding onto the winning number at roulette for very long.

I read about a roulette cheating method that seemed pretty clever. No idea if it was fabricated or actually worked.

They would bury a large denom chip under some small denom chips and bet red/black at the last moment. Two reds on a purple for example. There was a spotter at the wheel. When they won they wouldn't do anything except correct the dealer when the dealer tried to pay $15 to a $500/$5/$5 stack. When they lost the spotter would yell something at the wheel as a distraction as soon as they saw the ball land on the losing color while the bettor pulls back his losing bet. If caught he would act drunk and sheepishly toss back 3 reds.

Obviously you're only getting away with this once per table, but run up and down the strip doing this on a crowded Friday and I can see it turning a decent profit.

Yes, this is the “Savannah”. Marcus did it without a spotter, but a spotter can be used to get the money pulled from the felt a split second faster. I remember his bottom chip was either $5,000 or $10,000. Win or lose, you have to go to next casino.
This is something that works better as a team mainly changing out who the “player” is.

As far as the “Roulette Slide”, I really would have to see it in person to judge it. But I trust Marcus’ and Bill Zenders review on it. I find it amazing that these guys can go decades without being suspected or backroomed.

[accountinquestion]

I can't see how surveillance would miss sliding onto the winning number at roulette for very long.

I read about a roulette cheating method that seemed pretty clever. No idea if it was fabricated or actually worked.

They would bury a large denom chip under some small denom chips and bet red/black at the last moment. Two reds on a purple for example. There was a spotter at the wheel. When they won they wouldn't do anything except correct the dealer when the dealer tried to pay $15 to a $500/$5/$5 stack. When they lost the spotter would yell something at the wheel as a distraction as soon as they saw the ball land on the losing color while the bettor pulls back his losing bet. If caught he would act drunk and sheepishly toss back 3 reds.

Obviously you're only getting away with this once per table, but run up and down the strip doing this on a crowded Friday and I can see it turning a decent profit.

Yes, this is the “Savannah”. Marcus did it without a spotter, but a spotter can be used to get the money pulled from the felt a split second faster. I remember his bottom chip was either $5,000 or $10,000. Win or lose, you have to go to next casino.
This is something that works better as a team mainly changing out who the “player” is.

As far as the “Roulette Slide”, I really would have to see it in person to judge it. But I trust Marcus’ and Bill Zenders review on it. I find it amazing that these guys can go decades without being suspected or backroomed.

Regarding the "roulette slide".

It seems so strong because of the math behind it. Won't draw attention. Everyday occurrence. Works in probably 1/2 the spins. (assume 1 stack can cover 9 spots x 2) spins (where # is close to bet on felt). The multiplier on the bet is huge.

At right time on casino floor with no other players at table it might take quite some time to be caught. Security isn't watching $1 chips when there are red and greens in play everywhere else? Sleight of hand is probably easier given the width of the angle of possibly players vs other card table games. You can probably surround dealer at greater than 180 degrees but you can't have people standing behind 1rst and 6th base as much as in card based table games.

The only downside is that the sleight of hand would be easier to see because if one is looking at stack it is going to move regardless the method of moving it.

Buying in for 100 $1 chips isn't going to draw attention...

[Tasha]

I thought,"Bending cards," was something like sticking Player's Club Cards into unwilling Slot Player's machines. Some guy said some random woman who was a fast talker stuck her Player's Club Card into his Slot without his permission. He said something like,"I was not going to let some random stranger earn points and free play on my money without my permission, so I stopped playing and calmly told her to remove her Player's Club Card from my machine before I reported her to Casino Staff. She removed her card and then cussed me out for being unwilling to help her out. The nerve of some People!"