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  1. #61
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I have no doubt Alan conducted himself property at the craps tables.

    During the DI craze, especially after the breaking Vegas episode, some of the casinos tossed out anyone attempting DI who appeared to have an influenced shot(It's not something you can hide). Nowadays, most casinos don't care as long as you're not significantly slowing down the table or consistently missing contact with the back wall.

    DI had a great number of smart guys fooled. It seems logical that it could be possible with practice. Just imagine you're someone who makes an investment of lots of time and money, perhaps you even paid for classes. You get an elaborate tossing rig or craps table tracking software dice chips etc. You start practicing until you have a good-looking shot. Now you start tracking your SSR/SRS numbers... low and behold, it seems as if you've struck gold and it's working. But here's the thing... at some point, just about everyone sooner or later will have a good SSR due to good old-fashioned variance. It's hard for someone to not equate that with practice and skill. When you're losing/bad SSRs there are all kinds of reasonable excuses... it's just variance, more practice is needed, you were having an off day, the dice are biased, the table conditions have changed, etc. When you're winning... it must be your personal skill.

    I have no idea exactly how many tosses it would take to have 99% confidence it has to be skill, but it has to be a fuck-ton.
    I always thought it was called Dice Control. To me this is the stuff of legends. I never really believed it was possible but once heard a convincing podcast otherwise so who knows. I figure for every person who could do it with a most marginal edge - there are 20 others who hopelessly fail but believe. That's probably being conservative. Who knows if anyone has ever actually successfully done it.

    Sounds like one of those things where the money is in the courses.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  2. #62
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I have no doubt Alan conducted himself property at the craps tables.

    During the DI craze, especially after the breaking Vegas episode, some of the casinos tossed out anyone attempting DI who appeared to have an influenced shot(It's not something you can hide). Nowadays, most casinos don't care as long as you're not significantly slowing down the table or consistently missing contact with the back wall.

    DI had a great number of smart guys fooled. It seems logical that it could be possible with practice. Just imagine you're someone who makes an investment of lots of time and money, perhaps you even paid for classes. You get an elaborate tossing rig or craps table tracking software dice chips etc. You start practicing until you have a good-looking shot. Now you start tracking your SSR/SRS numbers... low and behold, it seems as if you've struck gold and it's working. But here's the thing... at some point, just about everyone sooner or later will have a good SSR due to good old-fashioned variance. It's hard for someone to not equate that with practice and skill. When you're losing/bad SSRs there are all kinds of reasonable excuses... it's just variance, more practice is needed, you were having an off day, the dice are biased, the table conditions have changed, etc. When you're winning... it must be your personal skill.

    I have no idea exactly how many tosses it would take to have 99% confidence it has to be skill, but it has to be a fuck-ton.
    I always thought it was called Dice Control. To me this is the stuff of legends. I never really believed it was possible but once heard a convincing podcast otherwise so who knows. I figure for every person who could do it with a most marginal edge - there are 20 others who hopelessly fail but believe. That's probably being conservative. Who knows if anyone has ever actually successfully done it.

    Sounds like one of those things where the money is in the courses.
    That's how they branded it at the beginning, and that's exactly what the guys teaching and selling books wanted it to be, however, no legitimate notable math guy/AP/gambling expert would get behind such a bold name. Thus the word change from control to influence. Assuming it's remotely possible to influence the dice enough to gain a small advantage it just isn't practical in real-world conditions. It's been a while since I looked into the craps scam classes like Golden Touch, I wonder how they are doing nowadays? I must admit, running an operation like that and making bank while doing it, is the nuts.

    From what I understand, the coaches/teachers got banked/paid/tipped to go sit(stand) and play craps with the students who wanted to.
    I can just imagine how well they did with that BS. What eager student doesn't want to impress his coach/teacher and show just how generous and appreciative they are? You know there's going to be some huge runs and lots of money won at times. No doubt many of those guys are thinking it's "free house money" so why not just split the winnings, besides you're on your way to make 100's of thousands with your new-found skill thanks to the guys that taught you.

  3. #63
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #64
    This is for Axel.
    The following errors occurred with your submission
    AxelWolf has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

    I had nothing to really say in the dm but yea, your stuff is full.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  5. #65
    Bringing this thread back on point there was an interesting post from him today at WoV talking about calling Nevada Gaming.

    Basically the guy called gaming during Covid at Red Rock because they were letting too many players at the Craps table. And he was proud they came out and made RR conform to the rules.

    So this guy who by his own admission has had life threatening surgery was concerned about distancing that was proven to be worthless at a level he would call gaming on RR. But not concerned enough to stay away from public places like casinos and the CRAPS tables.

    I ask, is there another example of his need to be at the craps tables on a regular basis than this? I’m sure someone has a better example but this has to be top 5.

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    I ask, is there another example of his need to be at the craps tables on a regular basis than this? I’m sure someone has a better example but this has to be top 5.
    Name:  alan craps wedding.jpg
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    What, Me Worry?

  7. #67
    I think good old Alan took a shot at me, with his "What a giant step down for Kewlj" comment at WoV.

    I have taken a step down?

    Mr. Interviewed Presidents and Queens to infomercial pitchman.
    Mr. Interviewed Presidents and Queens to the above picture of getting married at the craps table.
    Mr. Interviewed Presidents and Queens to Mr 18 y.o. in a row.
    Alan went from interviewing Presidents and Queens to interviewing Rob Singer about Video poker machines telepathing information to him.

    Yeah, I have taken a step down. I am actually one of a handful that is actually stepping up and speaking the truth. AND I will continue to do so whenever I feel the need. Nuking at WoV won't stop me. VPN and throwaway emails will have the mods earning every penny that they don't get paid.

    Mdawg was allowed to make a mockery of WoV. I will just keep it going.

    uhhh, talk to ya soon, Alan, my friend.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  8. #68
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I think good old Alan took a shot at me, with his "What a giant step down for Kewlj" comment at WoV.

    I have taken a step down?

    Mr. Interviewed Presidents and Queens to infomercial pitchman.
    Mr. Interviewed Presidents and Queens to the above picture of getting married at the craps table.
    Mr. Interviewed Presidents and Queens to Mr 18 y.o. in a row.
    Alan went from interviewing Presidents and Queens to interviewing Rob Singer about Video poker machines telepathing information to him.

    Yeah, I have taken a step down. I am actually one of a handful that is actually stepping up and speaking the truth. AND I will continue to do so whenever I feel the need. Nuking at WoV won't stop me. VPN and throwaway emails will have the mods earning every penny that they don't get paid.

    Mdawg was allowed to make a mockery of WoV. I will just keep it going.

    uhhh, talk to ya soon, Alan, my friend.
    Sure you play blackjack for a living lol

  9. #69
    I will give credit to Alan for the fantastic interview full of LOLZ with Singer. It truly deserves 100k views ! Anyone who doesn't laugh at that, has no sense of humour whatsoever !

  10. #70
    Fucktard Alan looking for, and getting exactly what he needs in his life (other than cash) at WoV. Starting a thread on craps that he knows will get attention because he’s a fucking idiot. And of course he plays it along saying he hit a winner playing against the math.

    How did the math treat you the rest of your life Fuckhead?

    And credit to V for calling him out on it.

    Here’s a question for Alan. At what point do you consider leaving something for your grandkids instead of dropping any shekels you make at the casino? Or is your theory it’s better to enjoy your life instead of thinking of others? It’s not like you have assets they can sell when you die. Hopefully you don’t fuck them one last time when you go making them pay to bury you.

  11. #71
    Bumping this because Alan is going full retard over at the cunt wiz's forum. He's all in a huff because people won't let go of his 18 yo lie. Now he thinks nobody actually gambles because he doesn't think it's possible to get a roulette W2G. Hey fucktard, win over $1,200 on electronic roulette and see if you get a W2G. Oh wait, you couldn't possibly bet enough to do that.

  12. #72
    Originally Posted by jdaewoo View Post
    Bumping this because Alan is going full retard over at the cunt wiz's forum. He's all in a huff because people won't let go of his 18 yo lie. Now he thinks nobody actually gambles because he doesn't think it's possible to get a roulette W2G. Hey fucktard, win over $1,200 on electronic roulette and see if you get a W2G. Oh wait, you couldn't possibly bet enough to do that.
    Without saying too much, imagine if Fucktard understood why people know that.

    At this point he is just looking for attention and is on WoV more than ever. He is using it to get his “fix” instead of going to the casinos, though I’m sure it’s not by choice.

    Just wait until casinos eliminate $5 craps tables in the AM. His reason to live will be gone.

    My feelings on the Wiz are clear but I give him credit for fucking with Alan constantly by making his 18 Yo claim the butt of jokes over there.

  13. #73
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by jdaewoo View Post
    Bumping this because Alan is going full retard over at the cunt wiz's forum. He's all in a huff because people won't let go of his 18 yo lie. Now he thinks nobody actually gambles because he doesn't think it's possible to get a roulette W2G. Hey fucktard, win over $1,200 on electronic roulette and see if you get a W2G. Oh wait, you couldn't possibly bet enough to do that.
    Without saying too much, imagine if Fucktard understood why people know that.

    At this point he is just looking for attention and is on WoV more than ever. He is using it to get his “fix” instead of going to the casinos, though I’m sure it’s not by choice.

    Just wait until casinos eliminate $5 craps tables in the AM. His reason to live will be gone.

    My feelings on the Wiz are clear but I give him credit for fucking with Alan constantly by making his 18 Yo claim the butt of jokes over there.
    Let's face it. Alan is a ploppy gambler. Ploppy gamblers are stupid and gullible!

  14. #74
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Ploppy gamblers are stupid and gullible!
    When you use the words "ploppy gambler," are you referring to all non-AP players?

    If not, please describe the characteristics of the subset which constitute "ploppy."

    I am not an AP yet with my discipline I don't consider myself a "ploppy."
    What, Me Worry?

  15. #75
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Ploppy gamblers are stupid and gullible!
    When you use the words "ploppy gambler," are you referring to all non-AP players?

    If not, please describe the characteristics of the subset which constitute "ploppy."

    I am not an AP yet with my discipline I don't consider myself a "ploppy."
    Any player that's not at least break even, when all the bennies are factored in, is a ploppy in my book.

  16. #76
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Ploppy gamblers are stupid and gullible!
    When you use the words "ploppy gambler," are you referring to all non-AP players?

    If not, please describe the characteristics of the subset which constitute "ploppy."

    I am not an AP yet with my discipline I don't consider myself a "ploppy."
    Poppies are the degenerate loud mouth gamblers that think they know what their doing but really have no clue. I think there is a clear distinction between poppies and civilian gamblers. I'd put you in the civilian category.

  17. #77
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Poppies are degenerate loud mouths that think they know what their doing but really have no clue.
    That would make you a ploppy in the game of life, same as all you Mendelson dick riders.

    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    The one and only time I was in Vegas for NYE, I stayed in my hotel room which was nowhere near the strip and watched movies. Holidays are just another day of the week to me. They mean nothing.

  18. #78
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Poppies are degenerate loud mouths that think they know what their doing but really have no clue.
    That would make you a ploppy in the game of life, same as all you Mendelson dick riders.

    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    The one and only time I was in Vegas for NYE, I stayed in my hotel room which was nowhere near the strip and watched movies. Holidays are just another day of the week to me. They mean nothing.
    I see your fat ass got out of the little boys room again. Go fuck yourself jackass!

  19. #79
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Ploppy gamblers are stupid and gullible!
    When you use the words "ploppy gambler," are you referring to all non-AP players?

    If not, please describe the characteristics of the subset which constitute "ploppy."

    I am not an AP yet with my discipline I don't consider myself a "ploppy."
    Poppies are the degenerate loud mouth gamblers that think they know what their doing but really have no clue. I think there is a clear distinction between poppies and civilian gamblers. I'd put you in the civilian category.

    I hate jargon like "ploppies" and "squares." I think the use of these words has gotten worse over the years. I think part of it is the importation of Wall Street attitude and lingo to the sports betting scene. Fezzik didn't do anyone any favors by using this language whenever possible.

    I think jbjb's way of using the word "ploppy" is okay in that he distinguishes between someone who doesn't know that they don't know what they're doing and someone who does know they have some skills/knowledge deficiencies. That makes "ploppy" useful across the board. Although I'm a relatively knowledgeable car buyer, having bought strings of R titles in my youth and never buying a lemon, I'm a moron compared to some guys who buy at auctions and can look at an engine and tell you what's what. But I know I don't know, so that makes me a civilian car buyer and not a ploppy. I take a more expert person with me to help me out.

    So my instinct is to say the gambling ploppies don't know that they don't know. And unfortunately they often declare that they do know.

    I love Alan. I think his main problem is that he spent a lifetime using his general worldliness and ability to organize his knowledge as tools to do his journalistic job. Like many journalists and non-fiction writers, he has studied (and grasped) a huge range of topics on short notice. He's done it so well that he developed a kind of Cliff Notes arrogance for gambling. The guy who was my advisor at Penn State, Robert Gannon, helped me avoid this kind of arrogance. He always had his final drafts reviewed by experts in the field he was writing about. He said there's always a mistake, and sometimes non-experts like himself can make a fundamental egregious mistake. You have to have experts review what you have to say. For gambling, Alan is too invested in what he'd prefer to believe, and I don't recall him changing his mind very often.
    Last edited by redietz; 09-20-2022 at 06:14 AM.

  20. #80
    My definitions:

    Advantage player: Players playing to a positive expectation, both professionally and recreationally.

    Negative expectation players fall into 2 categories.

    1) recreational player. Visits the casino periodically and that can be a couple times a year to as much as a couple times a week. They understand they are playing a negative expectation game. The experience, win or lose is enjoyable to them (entertainment) and they can afford to lose whatever they lose without effecting their life one bit. MrV seems to be a prime example of this.

    2.) Ploppy. This is a player playing a negative expectation game, that refuses to believe he is playing negative expectation. He employs the same old, long disproven voodoo and "system" plays, over and over expecting a different (longterm) outcome....to win. These are the guys who when you ask how they have done over their lifetime (or a long 7 month trip ) will say "about even", when they know they are in the red and usually significantly so. I'll not name a prime example, although. look to the thread title.

    Unfortunately, this second group includes degenerate gambling types, where their gambling and losing effects their lives, finances and relationships.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

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