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  1. #1
    I am going to post this both here and at GF, in the hopes that someone may have some ideas. Unfortunately, I am not a member in good standing at WoV, where I know there are some members that play online.

    So a couple weeks ago, I signed up at an online casino that offered a decent bonus. After playing through the required rollover, my $200 investment is now $4300. Not a bad return if I can actually get the money. I have since read that this online casino doesn't have a great reputation when it comes to paying out.

    So I have another online casino that I use to place sports wagers, that I have used for years and have gotten payouts from numerous times with no issues.

    So I am trying to figure a way to get the bulk of the money from one account to the other, that I have more confidence in. I was thinking something along the lines of betting opposite sides of games, the side I really like on the more reputable casino and the other side at the less reputable casino that currently has the $4300. That way I could only lose juice and depending on exact lines, plus the 5% Friday night vig that I use for all my weekend games. BUT, for this to work, I would have to pick more winner, and I don't have a great track record of that. I might just as well end up with more money in the wrong account.

    Does anyone else have any ideas? I feel like there is something I am not thinking of? Something I am missing or not considering.
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  2. #2
    No, you can't move money from a scam casino to a non scam casino. If there was a way to do that via sports betting you could make millions by just pretending you had infinite money in the scam casino.

    Why in the blue fuck are you trying to bonus whore shady sites? Is this 2006? Stay the fuck away from shitty online casinos that don't pay.

  3. #3
    Have you tried the cash out button?

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by jdaewoo View Post
    No, you can't move money from a scam casino to a non scam casino. If there was a way to do that via sports betting you could make millions by just pretending you had infinite money in the scam casino.

    Why in the blue fuck are you trying to bonus whore shady sites? Is this 2006? Stay the fuck away from shitty online casinos that don't pay.
    Calm down, JD. I am not trying to bonus whore anything. Was just fooling around, playing a little. YES, point taken that I should have checked out the site (oddsmaker BTW) before I sent any money.


    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    Have you tried the cash out button?
    No I haven't. I have just read a lot of bad reviews and complaints about players not getting paid. I suppose I should try it and see what happens. I was just wondering if there was something I was not thinking of.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I am going to post this both here and at GF, in the hopes that someone may have some ideas. Unfortunately, I am not a member in good standing at WoV, where I know there are some members that play online.

    So a couple weeks ago, I signed up at an online casino that offered a decent bonus. After playing through the required rollover, my $200 investment is now $4300. Not a bad return if I can actually get the money. I have since read that this online casino doesn't have a great reputation when it comes to paying out.

    So I have another online casino that I use to place sports wagers, that I have used for years and have gotten payouts from numerous times with no issues.

    So I am trying to figure a way to get the bulk of the money from one account to the other, that I have more confidence in. I was thinking something along the lines of betting opposite sides of games, the side I really like on the more reputable casino and the other side at the less reputable casino that currently has the $4300. That way I could only lose juice and depending on exact lines, plus the 5% Friday night vig that I use for all my weekend games. BUT, for this to work, I would have to pick more winner, and I don't have a great track record of that. I might just as well end up with more money in the wrong account.

    Does anyone else have any ideas? I feel like there is something I am not thinking of? Something I am missing or not considering.
    I don't want to point out the obvious but if you happen to win on the bad site then you are just losing more money.

    If you can pick winners well enough for this to work you should only sports bet obviously.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  6. #6
    What I would recommend is transfer the money from casino to sports and bet it using your usual bets. At the conclusion of the season, ask for a withdrawal, but don't try to zero out the account. Keep a chunk in there. They are more likely to accept the seasonality of sports bettors withdrawing and depositing, as opposed to see-you-wouldn't-wanna-be-you casino bonus whores.

    I think this is a reasonable thing to do. They don't feel like you abused them. You give them fair action on normal sports bets (even if you're playing the other sides somewhere), and at the close of the NFL season, everybody should be okay with each other.

    I think it not unusual for offshores to give grief to casino bonus whoring while being fair regarding everything else. You have to understand that your profile as a casino bonus guy playing blackjack is completely different as compared to a sports bettor, so the goal would be to become the latter in their eyes.

    Added Note: You can't (rather shouldn't) buy half points at oddsmaker (the penalties are outrageous), so if you're sports betting and trying to middle games, you bet the regular line at oddsmaker and buy the half points at Betonline or YouWager or somewhere that doesn't penalize you.

    And this is why they pay me the big money (that's a joke, guys).
    Last edited by redietz; 10-06-2022 at 02:45 PM.

  7. #7
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I am going to post this both here and at GF, in the hopes that someone may have some ideas. Unfortunately, I am not a member in good standing at WoV, where I know there are some members that play online.

    So a couple weeks ago, I signed up at an online casino that offered a decent bonus. After playing through the required rollover, my $200 investment is now $4300. Not a bad return if I can actually get the money. I have since read that this online casino doesn't have a great reputation when it comes to paying out.

    So I have another online casino that I use to place sports wagers, that I have used for years and have gotten payouts from numerous times with no issues.

    So I am trying to figure a way to get the bulk of the money from one account to the other, that I have more confidence in. I was thinking something along the lines of betting opposite sides of games, the side I really like on the more reputable casino and the other side at the less reputable casino that currently has the $4300. That way I could only lose juice and depending on exact lines, plus the 5% Friday night vig that I use for all my weekend games. BUT, for this to work, I would have to pick more winner, and I don't have a great track record of that. I might just as well end up with more money in the wrong account.

    Does anyone else have any ideas? I feel like there is something I am not thinking of? Something I am missing or not considering.
    I don't want to point out the obvious but if you happen to win on the bad site then you are just losing more money.

    If you can pick winners well enough for this to work you should only sports bet obviously.
    This is what I get when I ask for gambling related topics?
    Dumb (kewlJ) and Dumber (accountingquestion).
    "Hey! How did you make all your money in 2006 through 2008?"
    *Scamming Neteller*


  8. #8
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I am going to post this both here and at GF, in the hopes that someone may have some ideas. Unfortunately, I am not a member in good standing at WoV, where I know there are some members that play online.

    So a couple weeks ago, I signed up at an online casino that offered a decent bonus. After playing through the required rollover, my $200 investment is now $4300. Not a bad return if I can actually get the money. I have since read that this online casino doesn't have a great reputation when it comes to paying out.

    So I have another online casino that I use to place sports wagers, that I have used for years and have gotten payouts from numerous times with no issues.

    So I am trying to figure a way to get the bulk of the money from one account to the other, that I have more confidence in. I was thinking something along the lines of betting opposite sides of games, the side I really like on the more reputable casino and the other side at the less reputable casino that currently has the $4300. That way I could only lose juice and depending on exact lines, plus the 5% Friday night vig that I use for all my weekend games. BUT, for this to work, I would have to pick more winner, and I don't have a great track record of that. I might just as well end up with more money in the wrong account.

    Does anyone else have any ideas? I feel like there is something I am not thinking of? Something I am missing or not considering.
    I don't want to point out the obvious but if you happen to win on the bad site then you are just losing more money.

    If you can pick winners well enough for this to work you should only sports bet obviously.
    This is what I get when I ask for gambling related topics?
    Dumb (kewlJ) and Dumber (accountingquestion).
    "Hey! How did you make all your money in 2006 through 2008?"
    *Scamming Neteller*

    And then you cry like the little bitch you are when I troll you..

    Am I wrong?


    Ok, Kewl said same thing in the last part of his longwinded post which I didn't completely read, but there is a basic truth there that he won't get past.

    If you know of the better answer then by all means give it. <crickets>

    Cboke on another hotdog fat boy. lol

    Fuck, I don't even troll you when you start crying like a little sissy.
    Last edited by accountinquestion; 10-06-2022 at 03:04 PM.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  9. #9
    Step 1:try Smurgerburger's suggestion. If that fails, try step 2.

    Step 2:
    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/ca/...ook-complaint/

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  10. #10
    That is a plan, tableplay. Thanks for that link/info.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    That is a plan, tableplay. Thanks for that link/info.
    No problem.

  12. #12
    Just to update. I withdrew a portion of these funds 2 weeks ago and the withdraw has been "processing" for almost 2 weeks now. We will see what happens.

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Just to update. I withdrew a portion of these funds 2 weeks ago and the withdraw has been "processing" for almost 2 weeks now. We will see what happens.
    2 weeks for an online sportsbook is fairly bad.

  14. #14
    Final update: Last week I received my third and final withdraw from this casino. It took over two months to withdraw all my money. This casino, Oddsmaker, charges $55 per withdraw, so breaking it up cost me extra, But I am just happy to have gotten the money and be done with it. Funny, no charge to deposit, but a charge to withdraw. What a scam.

    That is why I don't do these online casinos plays. This was my first and last. I do have a couple online casinos that I use for only sports betting and have never had any issues or charge for withdrawals. I should have investigated this casino, promo, withdrawal terms and reputation better. I don't know how you guys deal with these online casinos on these promo type plays. Anyway, live and learn.

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Final update: Last week I received my third and final withdraw from this casino. It took over two months to withdraw all my money. This casino, Oddsmaker, charges $55 per withdraw, so breaking it up cost me extra, But I am just happy to have gotten the money and be done with it. Funny, no charge to deposit, but a charge to withdraw. What a scam.

    That is why I don't do these online casinos plays. This was my first and last. I do have a couple online casinos that I use for only sports betting and have never had any issues or charge for withdrawals. I should have investigated this casino, promo, withdrawal terms and reputation better. I don't know how you guys deal with these online casinos on these promo type plays. Anyway, live and learn.

    Lol this is why you’re a break even gambler that sucks cock for a living

    Biggest fraud in the history of all gambling forums.

    Paid to post obviously

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Final update: Last week I received my third and final withdraw from this casino. It took over two months to withdraw all my money. This casino, Oddsmaker, charges $55 per withdraw, so breaking it up cost me extra, But I am just happy to have gotten the money and be done with it. Funny, no charge to deposit, but a charge to withdraw. What a scam.

    That is why I don't do these online casinos plays. This was my first and last. I do have a couple online casinos that I use for only sports betting and have never had any issues or charge for withdrawals. I should have investigated this casino, promo, withdrawal terms and reputation better. I don't know how you guys deal with these online casinos on these promo type plays. Anyway, live and learn.
    That's why you use BitCoin. Usually, there's no fee to cash out using BTC, and Oddsmaker even gives you 150% that's 50% more than most other deposit methods.

    If I'm understanding correctly you had +EV and you got paid everything -fees? It doesn't bother me if it takes a while to get paid as long as I get paid. It's thinking you're gonna get fucked because it's taking so long that's annoying.

    I won't tell you about the +EV BJ online since you're done with online.

  17. #17
    Nice thing about gambling on-line in MI is the casinos are regulated by the State. No hanky panky going on with them. However, some casinos only allow a couple of withdrawals in a day. I have deposits and withdrawals going in and out of on-line casinos totaling anywhere from $60,000 to $100,000 in a month. I have received my money as quick as 10 minutes after withdrawing it. However, some of my withdrawals go thru VIP Preferred and can take a couple of days to show up in my account. Debit card is the fastest and no fees.

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Nice thing about gambling on-line in MI is the casinos are regulated by the State. No hanky panky going on with them. However, some casinos only allow a couple of withdrawals in a day. I have deposits and withdrawals going in and out of on-line casinos totaling anywhere from $60,000 to $100,000 in a month. I have received my money as quick as 10 minutes after withdrawing it. However, some of my withdrawals go thru VIP Preferred and can take a couple of days to show up in my account. Debit card is the fastest and no fees.
    Unfortunately, there are only sports and poker in NV, and no states close that allow online gambling.

    While I'm always hoping it happens in NV, I have a feeling it won't be as good as other places and the offerings won't be as good as other places. This was evident with the sports offerings they had here, it was/is dismissal.

    The M had an in-house gambling App, and they did have a fairly good Baccarat promotion. I can't remember what it was worth, but I seem to remember it being worth about 5k in value.

    "$60,000 to $100,000 in a month", I assume you're making a profit and not jamming due to some need for action. EvenBob claims they will jam you up over winning a few shekels.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    However, some casinos only allow a couple of withdrawals in a day.
    Uhh…Is this not reasonable?


    Curious, do you find it necessary to request more than one withdrawal per day?
    The only reason I could think of the need for more than 1 withdrawal daily would be Cash Flow Issues. Even then by the time you get the money, the line you need the cash for has likely changed.

    If it’s a trust issue with the casino, you shouldn’t even play there, if you need more than 1 daily withdrawal.

    Please, someone correct me if I am wrong.

  20. #20
    I'm actually pretty shocked kewlJ ultimately got paid. Given the bonus whoring and the two week delay on payment, I figured this was a likely no pay situation.

    redietz gave some good advice for sites which sometimes pay. If it's a no-pay site, kiss the money goodbye.
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