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  1. #1
    My buddy sent me this email:

    " A huge rush.

    I put $300 into a new casino site a week ago.
    I just hit a $3000 jackpot.

    The balance is now $4800.

    Unreal.

    I've hit several $500 jackpots, a $600 one and an $800.

    But the $3000 was above and beyond fun!!!!!! "

    I responded:

    " That is fantastic, really.

    What site, what game, what did you hit?

    Now, purely for shits and giggles, try to withdraw it all and have the cash sent to you.

    I'll wait ... lol

    Point being: you probably won't get it: they want you to keep rolling it over til it's gone, then when your addiction is rampant you'll send them more.

    I could be wrong, however.

    Fact is, I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

    J/K, nice hit, but don't count your thousands til they're in your hand..."

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  2. #2
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    My buddy sent me this email:

    " A huge rush.

    I put $300 into a new casino site a week ago.
    I just hit a $3000 jackpot.

    The balance is now $4800.

    Unreal.

    I've hit several $500 jackpots, a $600 one and an $800.

    But the $3000 was above and beyond fun!!!!!! "

    I responded:

    " That is fantastic, really.

    What site, what game, what did you hit?

    Now, purely for shits and giggles, try to withdraw it all and have the cash sent to you.

    I'll wait ... lol

    Point being: you probably won't get it: they want you to keep rolling it over til it's gone, then when your addiction is rampant you'll send them more.

    I could be wrong, however.

    Fact is, I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

    J/K, nice hit, but don't count your thousands til they're in your hand..."

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    What site? Did he take a bonus?

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    The entire thing may be a scam. He may not be able to withdrawal the $300.

    I know a guy who deposited $10,000 in an online exchange back in June or July of this year. Anyway, you can trade on this exchange just like any other platform. This guy was “trading” for months. One day I see him at McDonald’s and he tells me about it and how he has a balance of over $800,000 from trading. Telling me about the “candles” on the charts lol. He tells me the story. Honestly, if his balance wasn’t so high, After looking at the site, I would have said it was a legit exchange. This guy is happy as hell thinking he Made over $800k day trading over a few months. I look at a few things and come to the conclusion it’s all a scam. I’m 100% at this point.

    Here is the scam - Obviously they get your upfront deposit, and since that isn’t enough for these greedy fucks, they set up the system so “you make great money” on your trades. Guy I know thought he was a Fucking genius. So after you “make money”, you want to cash out right? Guess what? They want 20% to cash out your “balance” lol. What kind of retarded shit is this? Pay you to get MY money? $800k x 20% = $160k.

    Obviously these guys are in a 3rd world country. Anyway, I told this guy I would try to help him. I met him at the McDonald’s (he is there daily). At this point he is trying everything he can to come up with money. I ask him the obvious question of why can’t they take the 20% out of the account. He said they gave some legal bullshit reason. So at this point this guy is convinced it’s real and is doing everything to come up with the money.

    Without boring you with all the back at forth, the next time I met him at McDonald’s, he is no longer “trading”, he is just focused on a “withdrawal”. He now has 2 month of back and forth with their “customer service” lol. I tell him I need to see all the text messages. Guess how many text messages between him and “customer service?” OVER 5,500 TEXT MESSAGES. I tell him straight up again, this is a scam - How are you falling for this? It’s a clear as day. Anyway, the most current communication has them down to accepting $17,000. He got a loan for $20,000. I spent over 2 hours with this guy listing every reason why it’s a scam. He just doesn’t want to believe it.

    I look at the message from the day before and I see my guy tried to make a Bitcoin payment to them for $17,000!! Just reading these text messages, these scammers were happy as fuck, thinking $17k was incoming lol. When I met this guy at McDonald’s 3 days ago, I told him, do not give them a penny it’s a scam - I fully broke down the scam and how it works. I like to think this is something I am fairly good at, so if I couldn’t do it, I don’t know if someone else could.

    Anyway, He’s at McDonald’s everyday. I’m nervous about going back, because if he sent these scammers that $17k I’m going to explode.

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    I can't imagine anyone waiting on $10,000 to become nearly a million dollars, especially someone who requires a $20,000 loan to make $17,000. I mean, there are things to buy outright with, say, $100,000. Who wouldn't want to impress family et al? Who, with their last $10,000 cash wouldn't have checked out the such site, before? Who wouldn't have reported the problem to the relevant authorities, and online forums, for at least a bit of advice about what to do next?

    If the 20% such fee wasn't in the terms & conditions of service, then, supposedly, it's a scam. Then who would, still, try to send in any more money, let alone after being told to send in $160,000? Couldn't get even the buy-in back?

    Why would you "explode" over it? Some guy you just happen to meet now and then at MacDonald's. Is there a time set up? Who the heck even goes to a MacDonald's, every day?

    I have no idea how you run into such persons.
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  5. #5
    Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper View Post
    I can't imagine anyone waiting on $10,000 to become nearly a million dollars, especially someone who requires a $20,000 loan to make $17,000. I mean, there are things to buy outright with, say, $100,000. Who wouldn't want to impress family et al? Who, with their last $10,000 cash wouldn't have checked out the such site, before? Who wouldn't have reported the problem to the relevant authorities, and online forums, for at least a bit of advice about what to do next?

    If the 20% such fee wasn't in the terms & conditions of service, then, supposedly, it's a scam. Then who would, still, try to send in any more money, let alone after being told to send in $160,000? Couldn't get even the buy-in back?

    Why would you "explode" over it? Some guy you just happen to meet now and then at MacDonald's. Is there a time set up? Who the heck even goes to a MacDonald's, every day?

    I have no idea how you run into such persons.

    It boggles my mind when people fall for these scams to begin with, but when something is blatantly obvious like this scam, it boggles it more.

    This guy that paid the money is not really a “friend”, I happened to meet him being out one day. What surprises me is that this guy is of average intelligence, he has owned a couple small restaurants to earn his living. Just a normal hard working guy.

    As far as the T&C’s, people that generally fall for scams don’t read the T&C’s. They take someone at face value. They go by what they are being told. I know, big mistake.

    The McDonalds thing - Im sure this happens at McDonald’s nationwide, primarily seniors will go in there everyday, sit and drink coffee, some for hours at at time. I see some stores have changed their policy on coffee refills, likley for this reason.

    The reason I would “explode”, is that I hate scammers to begin, then this guy is going to give these scumbags money (Probably a 2-5 year salary in their country) and there is absolutely nothing I can do about it except say, “I told you so” after he gets taken.

    I probably gave this dude 50 reasons why it’s a scam. Anyone of these reasons by itself is enough to make the average person very concerned.

    I even proved to him that these weren’t “real trades”. I got the dates and times of his trades and matched up the actual price of what he was buying or selling and showed him they didn’t match, therefore he was never actually buying or selling anything, the scammers made him believe they were trading it.

    These scammers can buy the software that legitimate companies use and provide their clients to trade on. It’s similar to sports betting with a small independent bookie. Someone provides the bookie with the platform that has the program with the lines to place wages on, then the bookie handles the money. If the bookie never intends to pay you from the get go, he just laughs as you place these bets as you are being free rolled. These scammers are spending a few grand to buy this software. Customers are using this official looking platform, but the trades are never being completed.
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  6. #6
    About scams in Casinos, some guy had a Friend who fell for the ,"I'll teach you how to win," scam. The Mark lost his money and the Scammer was like,"That's okay, put another $20 in the slot and we'll try again. "The Mark told the Scammer off instead and the Scammer left. The guy was like,"At least my Friend learned his lesson after the Scammer got him to lose money,not win money, but I was shocked he took this Scammer seriously in the first place! "
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  7. #7
    Online gambling can be disastrous to some people with gambling problems already as we all can guess. Not many people can survive in these days without a smart phone and a bank account, the two things online casinos need to ruin lives which may already be under control if the people just don't enter a casino. I think online gambling should be legal anyway, it is the responsibility of people to have responsibility.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    What site? Did he take a bonus?
    Luckyredcasino.com

    No idea about a bonus, will inquire.
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  9. #9
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    What site? Did he take a bonus?
    Luckyredcasino.com

    No idea about a bonus, will inquire.
    They used to be good, but nowadays they have a fairly bad reputation(blacklisted on many affiliate sites including WOO). I noticed that they didn't pay their affiliates during a management/ownership change. Whenever a casino doesn't pay their affiliate they automatically get added to their blacklists. Even if that casino has actually been paying their players.

    Oftentimes, when not paying players, it takes a while and many transgressions to get blacklisted(go figure).

    If he did take a bonus it's super important he doesn't violate the terms and conditions. Here's an important one most players mess up.
    "The maximum bet rule allowed to be placed during the playthrough of any promotion bonuses (including cashback offers) is $10. Betting above $10 during an active playthrough will result in any winnings being voided."

    All hope isn't lost yet...
    Someone got paid by them not too long ago, but it took a long while. I certainly wouldn't cash out a large amount at once, perhaps, $400 to start. I say he has a 5% chance of getting paied.

  10. #10
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  11. #11
    Originally Posted by QuillenSimmons View Post
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  12. #12
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    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
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    Other then the US, the other countries exempt are laughable.

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    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I couldn't find much information on this casino, What I did find, said people were paid. That's what really matters. Many offshore places claim no USA but they actually do accept players from the USA. However, those places have a fairly good reputation and it's probably there just to cover their ass. Regardless, if you're looking for big jackpot scores and actually hit one, you could be SOL.
    Ok. At some point you are going to have to grind out the 30X on slots. I guess under these conditions you could use your bonus on VP - hope to hit it big and then grind the results out on eligible games (slots). Be aware that, if you do hit it big, suddenly your jurisdiction may become an issue (as you have mentioned). Have fun if you decide to play there.
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  15. #15
    I probably wouldn't play there since there are so many better options.


    As to why they ban some countries. I think that might have to do with bonus abuse. Many of online casinos will give you free spins/ no deposit bonuses for up to $100, $50-$100 are rare nowadays, but you can find them. They come with max cash-out limits, high wagering requirements, and low max bet limitations. Oftentimes there's a minimum cash out of up to $150. You'll oftentimes have to make a small $25 deposit as well. I don't know if it's worthwhile for most people living in richer counties. It's probably better than playing -EV slots in casinos all day or free slot apps. In poor countries, it's probably very worthwhile grinding all day taking free shots at the thousands of different online casinos. I'm certain they have groups of people in poor countries dedicated to doing this sort of thing and they probably have it down to a science.

    IIRC the guys who now own WOO, WOV, LCB, etc etc, got started via deposit bonuses online.

  16. #16
    Who would have thought the all mighty Jackie Chan, would have started off as a grinder before his claim to fame !

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post

    Who would have thought the all mighty Jackie Chan, was a grinder before his claim to fame !
    Yeah, I do believe he talked about that in some interviews.

  18. #18
    The guy who suggested 7 Slots Casino is from Ukraine, and made the account here to spam. Ironically, Ukraine is one of the countries where you can't play. Presumably he was hired to spam forums with ads, and chose this thread as a good place to do it.

    I have removed the links but will leave up the subsequent discussion.

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