My newest win/loss statement! :D

[Tasha]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/xxLKK9en8B6cQMhi6

[MisterV]

Looks like you only lost eight hundred over the year, which is outstanding for a ploppy such as yourself.

[Tasha]

Looks like you only lost eight hundred over the year, which is outstanding for a ploppy such as yourself.

Actually, I lost more like $1,200 over the year. But I do find it insulting that I am betting more money, but my free play has not gone up. It's still only $30 a week, despite me playing over $85,000 in this year alone. It's insulting.

[kewlJ]

Looks like you only lost eight hundred over the year, which is outstanding for a ploppy such as yourself.

Actually, I lost more like $1,200 over the year. But I do find it insulting that I am betting more money, but my free play has not gone up. It's still only $30 a week, despite me playing over $85,000 in this year alone. It's insulting.

Tasha, do you understand how free play works and what it is from the casino point? Free play is designed to get a return trip from a losing player, no offense to you by that, but that is what it is. If they can get a losing player back for $5 a week, why are they going to give them $20 or $25 a week? There are people in marketing that do nothing but work on that. They give you $5 a week and if you return....GREAT!. If not you may see that free play amount, actually go up, to $10 or $15, until they determine just what amount it takes to get you back regularly and what is worth it to them for each player.

If you are counting on lucrative free play amounts to put you over the top from -EV play to +EV or winning play, you have missed the boat. THOSE days are gone.

When I moved to Vegas in 2009, I didn't know squat about free play or video poker. It took another AP to explain it to me, that because Vegas had so many casinos, especially the local type places, competing for the local players and local player action, that free play coming in mailers every month was disproportionately high, especially from the local type places like Boyd casinos, Station casinos, South Point, Silverton, Cannery/East Cannery, Club Fortune in Henderson, I could go on and on. Even some places that masquerades as resort place while also catering to locals, like Palms, Hard Rock, LVH/Westgage.

But it was all because they were in competition for the local player and dollar. In Vegas those days are all but gone, and I am not sure just how much there ever was in other places that didn't have that same dynamic of competitive casinos fighting for the same players.

So if you are counting on free play to be the difference, somehow putting you over the top from losing to winning player, you missed the boat, IF your location even had a boat.

[monet]

Congrats to Jay Mohr.
That's some serious game.
Hope he don't Fuck that shit up.
Phil Jackson to Jay Mohr lol... Old News but new to me.
Jay Mohr must have some serious game and I wonder how he keeps her interested.
I can't get over it.
That is what you call living the dream.

[Tasha]

Looks like you only lost eight hundred over the year, which is outstanding for a ploppy such as yourself.

Actually, I lost more like $1,200 over the year. But I do find it insulting that I am betting more money, but my free play has not gone up. It's still only $30 a week, despite me playing over $85,000 in this year alone. It's insulting.

Tasha, do you understand how free play works and what it is from the casino point? Free play is designed to get a return trip from a losing player, no offense to you by that, but that is what it is. If they can get a losing player back for $5 a week, why are they going to give them $20 or $25 a week? There are people in marketing that do nothing but work on that. They give you $5 a week and if you return....GREAT!. If not you may see that free play amount, actually go up, to $10 or $15, until they determine just what amount it takes to get you back regularly and what is worth it to them for each player.

If you are counting on lucrative free play amounts to put you over the top from -EV play to +EV or winning play, you have missed the boat. THOSE days are gone.

When I moved to Vegas in 2009, I didn't know squat about free play or video poker. It took another AP to explain it to me, that because Vegas had so many casinos, especially the local type places, competing for the local players and local player action, that free play coming in mailers every month was disproportionately high, especially from the local type places like Boyd casinos, Station casinos, South Point, Silverton, Cannery/East Cannery, Club Fortune in Henderson, I could go on and on. Even some places that masquerades as resort place while also catering to locals, like Palms, Hard Rock, LVH/Westgage.

But it was all because they were in competition for the local player and dollar. In Vegas those days are all but gone, and I am not sure just how much there ever was in other places that didn't have that same dynamic of competitive casinos fighting for the same players.

So if you are counting on free play to be the difference, somehow putting you over the top from losing to winning player, you missed the boat, IF your location even had a boat.

You make insightful posts, but anyone in my shoes would be baffled on why I played roughly $52,000 last year and got $30 a week, and this year, I played over $30,000 more than I did last year and I still only get $30 a week. In all honesty, I should be getting at least $60 a week.

[kewlJ]

You make insightful posts, but anyone in my shoes would be baffled on why I played roughly $52,000 last year and got $30 a week, and this year, I played over $30,000 more than I did last year and I still only get $30 a week. In all honesty, I should be getting at least $60 a week.

there are 2 reasons. I just explained one. If they can get you back for less free play they will. Why are they going to give you $60 if they can get you to return for $30?

Second reason is that industry-wide, mailer type free-play has been cut to where it is all but irrelevant. I am sort of guessing at that industry-wide thing, because I know it has here in Vegas, and if it has here, well....

[monet]

This Fag Talk never seems to end.

[kewlJ]

This Fag Talk never seems to end.

Shut up you fat pig. You would be height/weight proportional if you were 10 feet tall.

[MisterV]

Tasha, try STAYING AWAY from that casino for awhile, maybe several months, then see if the free play offer increases: it should.

[Ozzy]

This Fag Talk never seems to end.

Shut up you fat pig. You would be height/weight proportional if you were 10 feet tall.

Decisions Decisions, If I had no choice in the matter, would I want to be a 5 foot nuthin twig at a buck fitty soak and wet with steel toed boots, or 275 North of 6 feet. Pick your poison.

[kewlJ]

Decisions Decisions, If I had no choice in the matter, would I want to be a 5 foot nuthin twig at a buck fitty soak and wet with steel toed boots, or 275 North of 6 feet. Pick your poison.

Proving what an idiot you are. Even at 6'3", a 275 lb man has a BMI of 34 and is severely obese, which comes with major health risks...self induced and preventable, major health risks

[AxelWolf]

Tasha,

You must be playing some good video BJ, craps, baccarat, vulturing or those promotions and free play are really adding up. There is no way you should be only losing $1,200 on 85k coin in playing str8 up on penny slots without a notable jackpot.

If you just tweaked a few aspects of your play you'd probably be profitable each year.

[Tasha]

You make insightful posts, but anyone in my shoes would be baffled on why I played roughly $52,000 last year and got $30 a week, and this year, I played over $30,000 more than I did last year and I still only get $30 a week. In all honesty, I should be getting at least $60 a week.

there are 2 reasons. I just explained one. If they can get you back for less free play they will. Why are they going to give you $60 if they can get you to return for $30?

Second reason is that industry-wide, mailer type free-play has been cut to where it is all but irrelevant. I am sort of guessing at that industry-wide thing, because I know it has here in Vegas, and if it has here, well....

Hmm. I remember like 5 years ago, the free play rose significantly with more play.

On an interesting side note, Hialeah, which I ignored for a couple of months gives me $35 a week, $5 more than Gulfstream, and I'm a Pink Card, lowest tier. In Gulfstream, I get $5 LESS than Hialeah, and I'm a Silver Card, middle tier card and play much more at Gulfstream Park than Hialeah.

[TheGrimReaper]

Tasha,

If you just tweaked a few aspects of your play you'd probably be profitable each year.

Yeah, but then she'd be like Crimm going from one shithole casino, to the next, for quarters for the rest of her life, and, running into people like you. Before you know it, she'd end up for real on an hilarious but miserable gambling forum like this one. Ha. (Isn't 'an' a lot easier to say than 'a' here? https://oneminuteenglish.org/en/an-h...r-a-hilarious/ )

Anyway, Tasha, if you just quit, then it would be like a $100 a month for not having to play at all. A "lottery" win for life. Which would be a hell of a lot better than ending up with nothing, by which a real lottery win on the end could do no better than your money back, or, than begging for glorified posting rights on such a forum. What sort of a fool barfs over a infrequent $100 win on a slot machine, but, wouldn't just accept the above proposal? In general, you're better off than the Axles of the world, in that you have a way out, without getting into such life-long internal narratives as in their every post on such forums.

As in the blurb I put up the other day about split personalities, the mind is truly a wondrous thing. Not only could anyone thus turn gambling off at a instant (without being crazy), you could change also the other aspects of your life for the better. No more need for any such "highs" such as overeating. No more need to, say, endlessly "write" stuff to try to fit in on such a forum as this. In other words, were the casino about only an hour or two a week, then people would lose their time, or money, and just stop.

But, it's your choice, the same one with drinking that I put to Crimm, so many years ago at the WoV forum, before he finished drinking himself into a major heart attach. Nothing more pathetic in a casino than someone on a scooter with an oxygen tank.

Your real Christmas story sequel / prequel is still in your own hands. As from nothing, to nothing, or from everything, to everything.


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[kewlJ]

Tasha, you will be happy to know that Mdawg took this little discussion of your to WoV. That is almost like YOU somehow got back on WoV, for a few minutes.

Of course Mdawg also references my response. Note to the dog, if you wanted to have legitimate discussions with real players, you shouldn't have demanded Wizard remove so many real players just because they questioned your little fantasy fairytale.

But I will clear some things up for you. Nowhere did I say only losing players got free play and / promo chip offers. I have gotten free play offers since the 3rd month I lived in Vegas, 12 years now. It has dwindled to almost nothing now, in part because my partner handled the machine play and he passed in 2018, and I just don't want to put in the time and effort, but mostly because offers aren't close to what they used to be. There was a time between him and I on just 2-3 accounts, we were getting 40-50 mailers a month and 5 grand in free play, and we didn't even play all that big, like some AP's do. It was always supplemental to my main BJ income, and now that supplemental is down to almost nothing.

So, NO, I never said ONLY losing players get free play. What I have said that is based on my experience offers like that are one of the first countermeasures taken, before backoffs or anything else. The very first place I was "no mailed" was South Point. I suspected why, but wanted to see what I could find out, so I just asked at the players club, why all of the sudden I wasn't getting mailers anymore. The lady first gave me a run-around answer about how that decision came from elsewhere, and when I played dumb and pushed just a little, she said something like "I am not supposed to tell you this, but you have been flagged as an advantage player." I could continued to play dumb and asked what that is, but because she had been honest, I just thanked her.

That was only the first one, there have been others. Others that "no mail" was the first countermeasure, followed sometime later by backoffs. Reduction and elimination of offers is often the first countermeasure when a casino decides or thinks a player is an advantage player and winning regularly. And frankly that is one of the tells that your story is BS. You would have us believe that the casinos you play, just allow you to win, win, win and just keep all the offers and freebies coming. That simply is not the way things work! Admittedly, I don't have experience playing the levels you play, I go but what players that I network with tell me and friends that work in the industry tell me.

With a higher limit player, I would think the casino would want to be absolutely sure before making any move. Last thing they want to do is cut off a good player and a good player to them is one losing not winning, most of the time. So while they might be a little extra careful which could buy that player more time than lower limit players, the higher limit players play stands out more and is easier to track. Bottom line is they are just not going to allow what you have been claiming all the winning and freebies on top for years and years. That just isn't how things work.

But on behalf of Tasha, I want to thank you for sort of quazi- getting her back on WoV with this discussion for a few minutes, while proving yet again that you simply don't know how things work and that your story is just that.....a story! Sometimes fun reading, but just a story.

[kewlJ]

Plus, if you did know how things in Vegas worked, you wouldn't have taken a prostitute to your suite, while she drugged and stole from you. A real "pope" of Las Vegas would know better than that.

[MisterV]

Anyway, Tasha, if you just quit, then it would be like a $100 a month for not having to play at all. A "lottery" win for life.

Why should she quit so long as she enjoys it and it isn't fucking up her life?

What else can she do that would provide the same amount of stimulation she gets from gambling, stimulation which is increasingly difficult to come by in our benumbed world?

By your reasoning we shouldn't do anything "frivolous" that doesn't give us a profit; no more trips to fishing and hunting lodges, no cruises, no vacations.

Fuck that.

Morrison said it best: "Get your kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames."

[smurgerburger]

Anyway, Tasha, if you just quit, then it would be like a $100 a month for not having to play at all. A "lottery" win for life.

Why should she quit so long as she enjoys it and it isn't fucking up her life?

What else can she do that would provide the same amount of stimulation she gets from gambling, stimulation which is increasingly difficult to come by in our benumbed world?

By your reasoning we shouldn't do anything "frivolous" that doesn't give us a profit; no more trips to fishing and hunting lodges, no cruises, no vacations.

Fuck that.

Morrison said it best: "Get your kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames."

Have you tried reading a book?

[MisterV]

Have you tried reading a book?

Of course; I read pretty heavily.

Reading is only part of a balanced life.

No idea if Tasha reads much, but reading cannot provide the feeling one gets every time they make a bet, putting their money at risk.

We just fucking love to tempt fate, don't we?