And the survey says ....

[kewlJ]

People give you shit because you are gay, a liar (you admitted you lied before about dying),

I wish to address these two comments, MrV.

First, 12 years ago, I was robbed at gun point outside my home in Vegas. At that time I participated on a blackjack forum and the assailant made a comment that I knew this was a result of my posting on that forum. I thought if it was known that I had passed away, that would protect me from future robberies. That was a stupid mistake. BUT I have owned that ever since. I admitted it and didn't disappear and reappear with a new name/handle. I didn't run and hide. I owned and owned up to that. If you or others want to label me a liar because of that, so be it.

As for the gay thing:. I didn't come here and announce that I was gay. Axelwolf did that for me. Axelwolf is one of those guys that jokes around with his friends about being gay. I am not claiming axelwolf and I are friends, although I consider us online friendly. Offline, I think he knows who I am and certainly knows people I have met and played with.

I am fine with that kind of ribbing. But the "shit" that you speak of is not in fun. It is attacks. Everything from wishing I died of aids, to a lie that my partner died of aids, to this seedvalue making up lies about male prostitution. That is not in fun....that is homophobic hate. The very same hate that more and more often people act on offline, shooting patrons in a gay bar or club. I am sorry but I don't find a lot of humor in that. And there is a connection. So often these people that take their hate offline have an online presence expressing that same hate before they shoot up some group of people.

[smurgerburger]

How many gun toting robbers read blackjack forums? And also make a point of declaring that fact to their victims?

I am not saying that is BS but it clearly sounds like BS.

[kewlJ]

How many gun toting robbers read blackjack forums? And also make a point of declaring that fact to their victims?
I am not saying that is BS but it clearly sounds like BS.

He didn't state that he read the forum. He made a comment that indicated to me that he did. When I handed him my fake (give up) wallet with a small amount of cash, he said "I don't want your wallet, I want your bankroll". That indicated he knew who I was and I was targeted because of that forum. Even the police made that connection.

[smurgerburger]

How many gun toting robbers read blackjack forums? And also make a point of declaring that fact to their victims?
I am not saying that is BS but it clearly sounds like BS.

He didn't state that he read the forum. He made a comment that indicated to me that he did. When I handed him my fake (give up) wallet with a small amount of cash, he said "I don't want your wallet, I want your bankroll". That indicated he knew who I was and I was targeted because of that forum. Even the police made that connection.

I retract my objection.

[Tasha]

I think Tasha should have been included in the poll.

I don't always appreciate Tasha. I don't 'get' all the games "she" plays, all the non-gambling related posts, all the starting new threads, all the sock puppets at WoV and then coming here insisting that such and such a new meber wasn't "her", when it always is.

But when Tasha stays on topic and shares "her" gambling related experiences, she has every right to do so. I mean I shake my head at a person who wins a $1000 jackpot and then buys $950 in lottery tickets, but it IS gambling related, and I appreciate that. To me she adds much move value to a forum that a Rob Singer or Mdawg, making up fantastical shit for attention

The buying $925 in Lottery tickets was a "I want to do my goal of playing $925 in Lottery tickets after reaching my goal of being the sole $1,000 Bingo Winner." So, I did my two goals in just one day.

About any NEW WOV Members, the last WOV Sock I made was River Jordan in March 2022, 10 months ago, a Sock that was busted and banned within like a day despite me posting stuff that actual famous gamblers have said happened to them such as inviting Acquaintances to a comped meal but having trouble when the Acquaintances didn't want to pay for tax and tip.

Any new WOV Members is not me. I had some Troll impersonate me by using the name Karen Nathan and apologizing for the cussing rant and begging to be reinstated on WOV. I haven't begged to be let back on WOV in a very long time, the last I begged to be let back on WOV was around June in a two day desperate and weird phase which I quickly got over. The Karen Nathan Imposter posted in October, months after I made my last desperate begging to be reinstated on WOV.

[MisterV]

The buying $925 in Lottery tickets was a "I want to do my goal of playing $925 in Lottery tickets after reaching my goal of being the sole $1,000 Bingo Winner." So, I did my two goals in just one day.

I can relate to that as I sometimes play that way also.

Hell, we choose to play negative expectation games so part of the fun comes in occasionally "taking a shot."

I blew the last handpay monies I won by playing very high limit slots: wiped out in less than ten minutes, but "frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" because I was taking my shots.

To win big you need to bet big...just not all the time.

Oh yeah, a dose of luck helps immensely.

[smurgerburger]

The serial quitting of the same forum never fails to amuse. Even the venerable redietz couldn't help himself.

That is just a person expressing their frustration with that forum. Others do it, just without announcing. Take Axelwolf. You see Axelwolf post for a while and then disappear. Do you not think he is saying to himself, "fuck that forum, I am not wasting my time there". And then sometime later he is back.

You guys make this kind of frustration with the forum out to be more than it is. And you are missing the bigger picture, that there are more that get frustrated and disappear without even announcing it. There have been some strong and even well known AP's that have come through here, couldn't stomach the place and left, never to have returned. I just don't get why you guys want this to be some kind of troll wars forum, like the old gambler's glen (before my time).

Just saw this post.

There is of course a difference between announcing you are quitting and then not actually quitting, and actually quitting without announcing it.

There is nothing wrong with just quitting a forum... this one perhaps more than most.

[accountinquestion]

The serial quitting of the same forum never fails to amuse. Even the venerable redietz couldn't help himself.

That is just a person expressing their frustration with that forum. Others do it, just without announcing. Take Axelwolf. You see Axelwolf post for a while and then disappear. Do you not think he is saying to himself, "fuck that forum, I am not wasting my time there". And then sometime later he is back.

You guys make this kind of frustration with the forum out to be more than it is. And you are missing the bigger picture, that there are more that get frustrated and disappear without even announcing it. There have been some strong and even well known AP's that have come through here, couldn't stomach the place and left, never to have returned. I just don't get why you guys want this to be some kind of troll wars forum, like the old gambler's glen (before my time).

Just saw this post.

There is of course a difference between announcing you are quitting and then not actually quitting, and actually quitting without announcing it.

There is nothing wrong with just quitting a forum... this one perhaps more than most.

If one can't quit this forum then I would strongly urge them to never try recreational drugs.

[Tasha]

The buying $925 in Lottery tickets was a "I want to do my goal of playing $925 in Lottery tickets after reaching my goal of being the sole $1,000 Bingo Winner." So, I did my two goals in just one day.

I can relate to that as I sometimes play that way also.

Hell, we choose to play negative expectation games so part of the fun comes in occasionally "taking a shot."

I blew the last handpay monies I won by playing very high limit slots: wiped out in less than ten minutes, but "frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" because I was taking my shots.

To win big you need to bet big...just not all the time.

Oh yeah, a dose of luck helps immensely.

I would have done better to have played 50 $10 Groupers(Jackpot Triple Play, Lottery ticket, Powerball, Fantasy 5, Pick 3, Cash Pop ticket, Megamillions,) at $500, $125 in Cash Pop tickets, $100 in Jackpot Triple Play tickets, $50 in Cash for life tickets, $75 in Megamillions, $75 in Powerball tickets. Playing $750 in just Cash Pop tickets was crazy, but I wanted to do my goal of $750 in Cash Pop Lottery tickets.

[kewlJ]

The buying $925 in Lottery tickets was a "I want to do my goal of playing $925 in Lottery tickets after reaching my goal of being the sole $1,000 Bingo Winner." So, I did my two goals in just one day.

I can relate to that as I sometimes play that way also.

Hell, we choose to play negative expectation games so part of the fun comes in occasionally "taking a shot."

I blew the last handpay monies I won by playing very high limit slots: wiped out in less than ten minutes, but "frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" because I was taking my shots.

To win big you need to bet big...just not all the time.

Oh yeah, a dose of luck helps immensely.

I would have done better to have played 50 $10 Groupers(Jackpot Triple Play, Lottery ticket, Powerball, Fantasy 5, Pick 3, Cash Pop ticket, Megamillions,) at $500, $125 in Cash Pop tickets, $100 in Jackpot Triple Play tickets, $50 in Cash for life tickets, $75 in Megamillions, $75 in Powerball tickets. Playing $750 in just Cash Pop tickets was crazy, but I wanted to do my goal of $750 in Cash Pop Lottery tickets.

See this is the exact thing that I find irritating about you tasha. You started your own thread about this very topic and yet you feel the need to hijack another thread with the same shit.

I don't particularly like this thread as it was nothing more than an attempt by AiQ, hoping to make me look bad, on a forum disproportionately made up with members that won't and can't be honest. There was actually some good that came from it as Mdawg attempted to rig this completely meaningless poll, revealing once again, he is so hell bent on people believing his fantasy nonsense. No real player or person claiming real winnings would do that. I don't even think Rob Singer would pull that, although who knows.

But regardless of any of that, why would you, tasha, think you should hijack another thread? That is just disrespectful to the person that started that thread, in this case AiQ.

[soxfan]

Gotta say that personally I find the kewl-J to be a vile, despicable, repugnant little worm; that said, I do think that he is a legit, proficient, profitable, mid-level 21 cards-counter, hey hey.

[Treeshade]

redeitz and kewlJ are believable

Singer and MDawg... not so much

Then let’s make a friendly wager. Myself and Mdawg, vs KewJ and red over a 6 month period. We can only play casino games and sports bet. No poker although video poker would be fine.


I will bet you up to 500k that Mdawg and I could win more in a 6 month period then the fake figment of his imagination unkewl and the washed up Red.

I trust you so I wouldn’t have a problem escrowing the money with you. Mdawg would need to agree and I have not even asked him nor have I ever met him.

Full disclosure Tho I’m 99.9 percent positive I figured out a variation of his play. Unlike all the fake losers on these boards who can’t see past their own biases I put in the work to see if he was telling the truth.

Not that I even need him to beat both of these losers in a 6 month contest, but I would include him because I know his story is more believable.

Let me know we can work it out

[Treeshade]

It’s time to put up or shut the fuck up. Come at the king

[Tasha]

I can relate to that as I sometimes play that way also.

Hell, we choose to play negative expectation games so part of the fun comes in occasionally "taking a shot."

I blew the last handpay monies I won by playing very high limit slots: wiped out in less than ten minutes, but "frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" because I was taking my shots.

To win big you need to bet big...just not all the time.

Oh yeah, a dose of luck helps immensely.

I would have done better to have played 50 $10 Groupers(Jackpot Triple Play, Lottery ticket, Powerball, Fantasy 5, Pick 3, Cash Pop ticket, Megamillions,) at $500, $125 in Cash Pop tickets, $100 in Jackpot Triple Play tickets, $50 in Cash for life tickets, $75 in Megamillions, $75 in Powerball tickets. Playing $750 in just Cash Pop tickets was crazy, but I wanted to do my goal of $750 in Cash Pop Lottery tickets.

See this is the exact thing that I find irritating about you tasha. You started your own thread about this very topic and yet you feel the need to hijack another thread with the same shit.

I don't particularly like this thread as it was nothing more than an attempt by AiQ, hoping to make me look bad, on a forum disproportionately made up with members that won't and can't be honest. There was actually some good that came from it as Mdawg attempted to rig this completely meaningless poll, revealing once again, he is so hell bent on people believing his fantasy nonsense. No real player or person claiming real winnings would do that. I don't even think Rob Singer would pull that, although who knows.

But regardless of any of that, why would you, tasha, think you should hijack another thread? That is just disrespectful to the person that started that thread, in this case AiQ.

Actually, YOU brought up me playing $925 in Lottery tickets in this thread and I responded and Mr V responded to me and I responded back to him. I didn't hijack anything.

This is the quote from you.

"But when Tasha stays on topic and shares "her" gambling related experiences, she has every right to do so. I mean I shake my head at a person who wins a $1000 jackpot and then buys $950 in lottery tickets, but it IS gambling related, and I appreciate that."

[kewlJ]

First I am going to make a "friendly wager" with the guy that doxxed me costing me 20-30 thousand dollars last year and the guy that made up the most ridiculous lies about me? Get real, asshole.

Secondly, I play blackjack for a living...in my 20th year now. I am not the least bit interested in what you or anyone else does. I am not competing with you nor anyone else, nor do I need to engage in some pissing contest because I am insecure.

Thirdly, if I was interested, which I just explained I am not, are we going to have witnesses follow each of us around for 6 months to insure what each person won? Or am I just supposed to trust the guy who has made the most outrageous lies about me?

Look the bottom line is AiQ started this thread hoping to embarrass me by having people that don't like me to vote for other people like Mdawg and Singer, regardless that no one really believes their stories/claims, just to spite me. Mdawg even tried to rig this meaningless poll by spamming members and was caught. But what has come out of it has been people can't help but show that they do believe me, they just don't like me. Thanks to Soxfan for being honest for once. I have known this for a very long time. Thanks to AccountinQuestion for proving it.

[jbjb]

I've seen Mbitch play. He's faker than a Bill Clinton $3 bill.

[Treeshade]

First I am going to make a "friendly wager" with the guy that doxxed me costing me 20-30 thousand dollars last year and the guy that made up the most ridiculous lies about me? Get real, asshole.

Secondly, I play blackjack for a living...in my 20th year now. I am not the least bit interested in what you or anyone else does. I am not competing with you nor anyone else, nor do I need to engage in some pissing contest because I am insecure.

Thirdly, if I was interested, which I just explained I am not, are we going to have witnesses follow each of us around for 6 months to insure what each person won? Or am I just supposed to trust the guy who has made the most outrageous lies about me?

Look the bottom line is AiQ started this thread hoping to embarrass me by having people that don't like me to vote for other people like Mdawg and Singer, regardless that no one really believes their stories/claims, just to spite me. Mdawg even tried to rig this meaningless poll by spamming members and was caught. But what has come out of it has been people can't help but show that they do believe me, they just don't like me. Thanks to Soxfan for being honest for once. I have known this for a very long time. Thanks to AccountinQuestion for proving it.

Gunplay you seem to have a backer in Dan. He believes in you more then Mdawg. I believe in Mdawg more then you. Red is highly successful in his niche as am I. So we have two people who are largely believed to be fake and two who can be verified pretty easy with mutual friends of Dans.

The details can be negotiated but I’m sure if you win it would
Be worth 4 or 5 x what you could make in your mind playing make believe blackjack.

[Treeshade]

I did not vote. It’s always a risk to be in these forums I’m not about to be voting and clicking more shit. Kew is fake anyone who believes otherwise should bet on him

[Treeshade]

Aps bet on what they believe gives them an edge. I literally would bet on Mdawg outright after doing my homework on him and his play over gunplay Kew. It’s not even close. I don’t know enough about Rob to make a call on him.

[kewlJ]

Dan Druff is a known professional poker player and has been for many years. As such he reads people for a living. And he has played Vegas for many years and knows how things work. It so happens I don't like the way he runs the forum or the attacks and lies he allows, but the man knows his shit and who is real and who isn't.

This forum, as well as GF are made up of disproportionately high number of trolls and people playing games, along with some real players at various level including playing for a living. But it is that disproportionate number of people playing games (trolling) and willing to be less than honest for amusement purposes that make a poll like this completely meaningless. Rather than the membership as a whole, including that disproportionately high number of members playing games, I am more interested in what the known legitimate AP think. Even that is only a vague, curiosity type interest, but I really don't give a rats ass what people that are known to be trolling and playing games think.

As for making 4-5 times what I have average over the last 13 years while I have lived in Las Vegas. I don't need to make a wager, one that I will never be paid, to do that. I have the ability to make 3, 4, 5 hundred K any year I want, just by upping my stakes. 10 years ago, there were guys choosing this "slash and burn" style. Get what you can playing higher stakes for 6-12 months before you can't play anywhere. The documentary "inside the edge", where KC traveled around the country, I think made 600k, before he burned out everywhere is the perfect example.

That is not the path I chose. I am in this for longevity. I play limits that are well tolerated and make a decent living and hope to do so for some time to come.

So dude, just fuck off with whatever your issue is. I don't care.