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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    What the fucK! What am I supposed to be looking at/for?
    It's a list of those who are delinquent on property taxes in Johnson City, Tennessee.

    All you had to do was scroll down to Dietz, Robert to see that the "highly successful sport bettor Bob Dietz" is delinquent on the property taxes for the two-room shack he lives in.
    Thank you. You know what, I didn't even know his name was Deitz. I honestly thought his last name was redeitz. I guess it is (R)obert E. Deitz which makes redeitz? I guess that is on me. So he owes $500 in property tax. This proves what?


    And 2 room shack? I looked at zillow and truia and don't see number of bedrooms but there are 2 bathrooms alone, so according to mickey this is a house with 2 bathrooms and no other rooms? No kitchen, no bedrooms, no living room.

    This 2 room shack comment is a very typical troll move. Something Singer would and does do. Why would you stoop to this level mickey crimm? Sad, just sad.

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    The short of it - he is fun to wind up - much like yourself. Thats half of what this board is. Everyone trying to wind up everyone else. It can get nasty but I will never try to take it to someone's personal life.
    I still don't even see the property tax thing. In the link from smelly belly, I see lists of literally a million names and addresses coving a number of years. I took a couple minutes and looked at several years under the "R"'s. I don't see anything. I did not look for Nathan Forrest drive or wherever he lives. That would have taken too long. Like you, I don't think it means much. But now, my curiosity peeked, I would like to see what coach belly thinks is his "gottch ya" moment in this case. Could you or someone point me to it.

    As far as what I quoted above, I guess this is one of the thing that makes me different than most on this forum.
    I don't need to try to discredit or tear anyone else down to build myself up. You CAN NOT even build yourself up by tearing others down. Show me one instance where I ever tried to discredit a real AP or winning player.

    If I am challenging someone it is because their claims can't be either mathematically or because that is not the way things work.
    Search for "dietz". It is a text pdf so this is possible.

    You try and tear down Rob Singer all the time. If you didn't do that, maybe he wouldn't be such a dick.

    Actually, I shouldn't feel sorry for redietz as this is what you get for not being anonymous.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Winning sport bettor you say ? Literally if you didn’t make a minimum of 200k the last few years just taking the bonus money then are you really a sports Bettor ? Are you really an AP ? Red flags for me that confirm fraudulent status are posters with 1000s of short essays posted on gambling forums across the internet. Guys like you can’t win because all your time is consumed posting online.
    Then you really don't understand as much about advantage play and the different aspects as you claim/think. I know AP's that play less than 30 days a year. Even more that play less than 60 days a year. 6-12 trips to different locations consisting of anywhere from 3-4 days to a week. And that is it. That leaves a hell of a lot of time for whatever else one wants to do, whether it be post on a forum or whatever.

    I myself used to play 300ish days a year. Was your typical grinder. In the last year + have completely changed to where I now play less than 100 days, mostly weekends and holidays.

    But YOU apparently know it all.

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Red flags for me that confirm fraudulent status are posters with 1000s of short essays posted on gambling forums across the internet. Guys like you can’t win because all your time is consumed posting online.
    Smartest thing you've ever said. Luckily this site is dead enough it can't take up too much of anyone's time.

    I take pride in making a short simple thread and having it blow up. Any child thread is a bonus in my book. Bringing in the great Singer or Mdawg into the ring? ..

    Thats strong.

    If Dan Druff was monetizing this site I would demand a piece.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    Search for "dietz". It is a text pdf so this is possible.
    yes, I see it now. Thank you. Still don't know exactly what that proves?

    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    You try and tear down Rob Singer all the time. If you didn't do that, maybe he wouldn't be such a dick.
    Come on man, be serious. Singer was a dick and a troll, for decades before I ever even heard of or encountered him. Get real.

    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Actually, I shouldn't feel sorry for redietz as this is what you get for not being anonymous.
    Agreed. Look, I don't know how it is for sports betters as far heat and casinos wanting to stop them. In theory, sports betters aren't playing against the casino, but kind of against other sports betters, similar to poker and horseracing, so maybe there isn't that same fight and battles by/with the casino industry that other AP's particularly table players fight.

    But just this information that is known about redietz because he uses his real name, would have been very problematic for a table game blackjack AP. They would have zoomed in on the car in the driveway of some of the real estate sites and pulled the license plate, providing even more information, which would lead to a picture. Plus the places that use license plate scanners would have a car make, model and license plate number for their database.

    Players that doesn't fight these battles don't see to even understand the war we fight daily.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Players that doesn't fight these battles don't see to even understand the war we fight daily.
    Amen to that brother. Amen to that.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post


    All I know is not you or queerJ have made what I have gambling. I would also bet I’ve made more for other people then you guys combined. This includes more then 7figs taking sports bonus money without knowing anything about betting sports. Most of you are frauds who just write bull shit long post
    Here's what I do know. We will call it Red Flag 101.

    When a poster say the things in this post like "I make more than you" or "I make 7 figures" or " my dick is bigger than yours". I immediately dismiss this person as a very insecure fucktard. And that is before we even get to the math.

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post


    All I know is not you or queerJ have made what I have gambling. I would also bet I’ve made more for other people then you guys combined. This includes more then 7figs taking sports bonus money without knowing anything about betting sports. Most of you are frauds who just write bull shit long post
    Here's what I do know. We will call it Red Flag 101.

    When a poster say the things in this post like "I make more than you" or "I make 7 figures" or " my dick is bigger than yours". I immediately dismiss this person as a very insecure fucktard. And that is before we even get to the math.

    Let’s get to the math loser . A 12 inch ruler is easy to use. Lay my fat cock on one and Measure it easy .

    Math lesson two let’s say each account in a particular state was worth approximately 17k in bonus signups. I’m not talking EV I’m talking literally betting both sides on two different accounts to guarantee a win. How hard do you think it is for someone who regularly runs 20 to 30 cards at one time to clear a million with their contacts ? Easy as 1 2 3 Gunplay

    Some of us actually do real shit in the casinos others like you and red Just post online about what you think is possible or whatever.

    There’s nothing you post that remotely makes anyone think you are real. Just because you plagiarize everything you have read online as your own doesn’t make it true. You post way to much do actually have time to make money in casinos.

    Now you want everyone to believe your gay brother is posting on your accounts lol. What a freak

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post


    All I know is not you or queerJ have made what I have gambling. I would also bet I’ve made more for other people then you guys combined. This includes more then 7figs taking sports bonus money without knowing anything about betting sports. Most of you are frauds who just write bull shit long post
    Here's what I do know. We will call it Red Flag 101.

    When a poster say the things in this post like "I make more than you" or "I make 7 figures" or " my dick is bigger than yours". I immediately dismiss this person as a very insecure fucktard. And that is before we even get to the math.

    Let’s get to the math loser . A 12 inch ruler is easy to use. Lay my fat cock on one and Measure it easy .

    Math lesson two let’s say each account in a particular state was worth approximately 17k in bonus signups. I’m not talking EV I’m talking literally betting both sides on two different accounts to guarantee a win. How hard do you think it is for someone who regularly runs 20 to 30 cards at one time to clear a million with their contacts ? Easy as 1 2 3 Gunplay

    Some of us actually do real shit in the casinos others like you and red Just post online about what you think is possible or whatever.

    There’s nothing you post that remotely makes anyone think you are real. Just because you plagiarize everything you have read online as your own doesn’t make it true. You post way to much do actually have time to make money in casinos.

    Now you want everyone to believe your gay brother is posting on your accounts lol. What a freak

    The reason you can’t believe it is because you don’t even have 5 friends. You bring no value to others is it’s impossible to understand. So you make up shit like counting 2 tables and running a play you read about online as your own lol. You have the problem not me. Gay men always have these problems it’s well documented science.

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    yes, I see it now. Thank you. Still don't know exactly what that proves?


    Come on man, be serious. Singer was a dick and a troll, for decades before I ever even heard of or encountered him. Get real.

    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Actually, I shouldn't feel sorry for redietz as this is what you get for not being anonymous.
    Agreed. Look, I don't know how it is for sports betters as far heat and casinos wanting to stop them. In theory, sports betters aren't playing against the casino, but kind of against other sports betters, similar to poker and horseracing, so maybe there isn't that same fight and battles by/with the casino industry that other AP's particularly table players fight.

    But just this information that is known about redietz because he uses his real name, would have been very problematic for a table game blackjack AP. They would have zoomed in on the car in the driveway of some of the real estate sites and pulled the license plate, providing even more information, which would lead to a picture. Plus the places that use license plate scanners would have a car make, model and license plate number for their database.

    Players that doesn't fight these battles don't see to even understand the war we fight daily.

    I understand it because I live it. You read about it and talk about it with theory. You never been part of a multi state casino investigation. You never seen shit. All you do is just blab your cum stain lips online. At least WON is a real player and lives the life.
    You on the other are a complete fucking made up fraud

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Players that doesn't fight these battles don't see to even understand the war we fight daily.
    Amen to that brother. Amen to that.

    What you know about it ? Nothing so now you are a fraud ? Crazy to fraud in the blink

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Winning sport bettor you say ? Literally if you didn’t make a minimum of 200k the last few years just taking the bonus money then are you really a sports Bettor ? Are you really an AP ? Red flags for me that confirm fraudulent status are posters with 1000s of short essays posted on gambling forums across the internet. Guys like you can’t win because all your time is consumed posting online.
    Then you really don't understand as much about advantage play and the different aspects as you claim/think. I know AP's that play less than 30 days a year. Even more that play less than 60 days a year. 6-12 trips to different locations consisting of anywhere from 3-4 days to a week. And that is it. That leaves a hell of a lot of time for whatever else one wants to do, whether it be post on a forum or whatever.

    I myself used to play 300ish days a year. Was your typical grinder. In the last year + have completely changed to where I now play less than 100 days, mostly weekends and holidays.

    But YOU apparently know it all.

    No one knows it all gunz but I know enough to absolutely say you are a fraud.

    If you’re not putting in max time like 30 to 50 hours a week doing what you claim you do then you are nothing but a recreational gambler. It’s impossible to make money in the long term as a card counter without putting in massive hours unless your lucky. It’s luck for must of you anyway

    It’s no different then poker. You must play full time hours to realize your edge or play 1000s of hands week online.

    The edges playing blackjack are way to small to make significant money playing if you Just play part time. This is why half the guest on gambling with an edge are frauds. Most of them play part time and have other jobs. Real players who actually make significant money mid 6 figures to 7 figures year after year are not talking. They are not selling shit to others they actually are making the money gambling.

    Many run teams as they are well known by casinos. They don’t sell picks or plays or start subscription based websites. They don’t chase clout online for fame and attention. They just win week after week.

    I don’t believe your lies. You’re a joke attention seeking gay man who has his wires crossed

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Players that doesn't fight these battles don't see to even understand the war we fight daily.
    Amen to that brother. Amen to that.

    What you know about it ? Nothing so now you are a fraud ? Crazy to fraud in the blink
    About trolling? Quite a bit actually. This site is basically my recent portfolio if you disagree.

    Ozzy won't give me the respect I deserve tho so I keep playing the game.

    Grinding, grinding.

    What you know about the game?
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Winning sport bettor you say ? Literally if you didn’t make a minimum of 200k the last few years just taking the bonus money then are you really a sports Bettor ? Are you really an AP ? Red flags for me that confirm fraudulent status are posters with 1000s of short essays posted on gambling forums across the internet. Guys like you can’t win because all your time is consumed posting online.
    Then you really don't understand as much about advantage play and the different aspects as you claim/think. I know AP's that play less than 30 days a year. Even more that play less than 60 days a year. 6-12 trips to different locations consisting of anywhere from 3-4 days to a week. And that is it. That leaves a hell of a lot of time for whatever else one wants to do, whether it be post on a forum or whatever.

    I myself used to play 300ish days a year. Was your typical grinder. In the last year + have completely changed to where I now play less than 100 days, mostly weekends and holidays.

    But YOU apparently know it all.

    No one knows it all gunz but I know enough to absolutely say you are a fraud.

    If you’re not putting in max time like 30 to 50 hours a week doing what you claim you do then you are nothing but a recreational gambler. It’s impossible to make money in the long term as a card counter without putting in massive hours unless your lucky. It’s luck for must of you anyway

    It’s no different then poker. You must play full time hours to realize your edge or play 1000s of hands week online.

    The edges playing blackjack are way to small to make significant money playing if you Just play part time. This is why half the guest on gambling with an edge are frauds. Most of them play part time and have other jobs. Real players who actually make significant money mid 6 figures to 7 figures year after year are not talking. They are not selling shit to others they actually are making the money gambling.

    Many run teams as they are well known by casinos. They don’t sell picks or plays or start subscription based websites. They don’t chase clout online for fame and attention. They just win week after week.

    I don’t believe your lies. You’re a joke attention seeking gay man who has his wires crossed
    This post proves, you don't know shit about anything. You certainly don't know anything about me. And as evident by your last line and many other comments you have made, you are just another homophobic hater. You people need to get a life. There are gay people in the world....get over it.

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I didn't even know his name was Deitz.
    He has posted his real name (and address) many times...you don't read his posts?

    He signed his real name in a thread that he started,
    and it was repeated 30 times in the thread,
    including in a post that you replied to just 11 days ago.

    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Since I am a real person posting under a real name,
    claims of sock puppet use have direct effects on my reputation.

    Thanks,

    Bob Dietz

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Then you really don't understand as much about advantage play and the different aspects as you claim/think. I know AP's that play less than 30 days a year. Even more that play less than 60 days a year. 6-12 trips to different locations consisting of anywhere from 3-4 days to a week. And that is it. That leaves a hell of a lot of time for whatever else one wants to do, whether it be post on a forum or whatever.

    I myself used to play 300ish days a year. Was your typical grinder. In the last year + have completely changed to where I now play less than 100 days, mostly weekends and holidays.

    But YOU apparently know it all.

    No one knows it all gunz but I know enough to absolutely say you are a fraud.

    If you’re not putting in max time like 30 to 50 hours a week doing what you claim you do then you are nothing but a recreational gambler. It’s impossible to make money in the long term as a card counter without putting in massive hours unless your lucky. It’s luck for must of you anyway

    It’s no different then poker. You must play full time hours to realize your edge or play 1000s of hands week online.

    The edges playing blackjack are way to small to make significant money playing if you Just play part time. This is why half the guest on gambling with an edge are frauds. Most of them play part time and have other jobs. Real players who actually make significant money mid 6 figures to 7 figures year after year are not talking. They are not selling shit to others they actually are making the money gambling.

    Many run teams as they are well known by casinos. They don’t sell picks or plays or start subscription based websites. They don’t chase clout online for fame and attention. They just win week after week.

    I don’t believe your lies. You’re a joke attention seeking gay man who has his wires crossed
    This post proves, you don't know shit about anything. You certainly don't know anything about me. And as evident by your last line and many other comments you have made, you are just another homophobic hater. You people need to get a life. There are gay people in the world....get over it.

    Listen queerJ and listen good I’m going to give you a lesson for free.

    I’ve run AP teams for close to 15 years. I ran solo until I was starting to get 86ed from basically every casino I stepped foot in. There’s only so much one man can make. Ten equally intelligent men with the same work ethic will run circles around the lone wolf. Getting data based and 86ed from most stores only increased my earn, because I started implementing team play. The key is the selection process.

    Outside of the core group of poker boom Leftovers who make up our original crew we pick a very specific person. We only choose people that have served in a very specific Branch of the military who achieved a certain rank. They must not have a gambling background and must be married. I’m not going to get into the specifics of why this profile is what we look for, but let’s just say trust, discipline, and the desire to serve others on the team is more important then anything else. Something a home wrecker like yourself wouldn’t understand. As you look to entrap married in the closet gay men for bribes.

    Well adjusted men who have dedicated their life to a cause will work circles around gay fairytale degenerate forum posters. As well as most self taught gamblers with the degenerate gene. Discipline is much more important then talent. All the math is easy to learn. The plays are easy to teach. What’s hard is finding the right dudes to get the job done under pressure.

    You talk all this shit about what you do in the casino. You don’t know anything and certainly don’t actually execute what you talk about. Nothing you Say is real it’s all bullshit lies.

    Maybe look inside talk to a therapist about how neighbor guy twisted up your sexual identity as a teen. He got to you young and you never delt with the trauma. Unpack all those cock issues you have, and maybe you can achieve success. Instead of living out this fairytale forum life .


    One last thing I made over a million online playing poker well before going into casino Ap. So your fucking remark about i don’t know about gambling and putting in hours with a small edge is laughable. I’ve sat and at the tables with all the super stars included Dan here and bicycleKick at limit poker on absolute. I know the small edge grind you fraud. So go fuck yourself with that long black dildo you ride on baby Bros lap
    Last edited by Treeshade; 01-31-2023 at 05:29 PM.

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    He has posted his real name (and address) many times...you don't read his posts?

    He signed his real name in a thread that he started,
    and it was repeated 30 times in the thread,
    including in a post that you replied to just 11 days ago.
    You don't know that it was I that responded to it.

    I also don't care one way or the other what his name is, so yeah, I may have glossed over that kind of thing.

  18. #38
    I got a list 200 deep to get in. I got bodies for days so I don’t fear any casino qeerj

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    One last thing I made over a million online playing poker well before going into casino Ap. So your fucking remark about i don’t know about gambling and putting in hours with a small edge is laughable. I’ve sat and at the tables with all the super stars included Dan here and bicycleKick at limit poker on absolute. I know the small edge grind you fraud. So go fuck yourself with that long black dildo you ride on baby Bros lap
    Ok, so Dan Druff will vouch for you? Let's here what he has to say.

    Look, I don't know if you are who you say in regards to 15 years of running multi-card teams. Honestly I don't know much about that. First I heard of it was Dark oz talking about that stuff at WoV, and frankly what you now say, seems like it could very well be lifted from that. We have someone in this community that has "lifted" a claim, the double up claim from other players, so it wouldn't be the first time.

    There are some players here, some members that seem to think you are legit, and that is good enough for me. But when you get into all this other shit, "I made a million dollars doing this", "I make more than anyone else", "I have a bigger dick that anyone", it becomes hard to take you seriously.

    And when you continue with some silly vendetta against me, completely making shit up, it becomes even harder to take you seriously. You very much seem like just another homophobic hater, hating for something that has nothing to do with my blackjack claims.

    So I don't know if everything you say is a lie, or what parts are and what parts aren't, but I have a starting point, because I KNOW just about everything you say about me is untrue, most of it pretty far out nonsense.

    That you are now repeating phrases by Rob Singer, like "crossed wires" and praising Singer and his 330k a year aerospace career, seems pretty suspicious to me.

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    One last thing I made over a million online playing poker well before going into casino Ap. So your fucking remark about i don’t know about gambling and putting in hours with a small edge is laughable. I’ve sat and at the tables with all the super stars included Dan here and bicycleKick at limit poker on absolute. I know the small edge grind you fraud. So go fuck yourself with that long black dildo you ride on baby Bros lap
    Ok, so Dan Druff will vouch for you? Let's here what he has to say.

    Look, I don't know if you are who you say in regards to 15 years of running multi-card teams. Honestly I don't know much about that. First I heard of it was Dark oz talking about that stuff at WoV, and frankly what you now say, seems like it could very well be lifted from that. We have someone in this community that has "lifted" a claim, the double up claim from other players, so it wouldn't be the first time.

    There are some players here, some members that seem to think you are legit, and that is good enough for me. But when you get into all this other shit, "I made a million dollars doing this", "I make more than anyone else", "I have a bigger dick that anyone", it becomes hard to take you seriously.

    And when you continue with some silly vendetta against me, completely making shit up, it becomes even harder to take you seriously. You very much seem like just another homophobic hater, hating for something that has nothing to do with my blackjack claims.

    So I don't know if everything you say is a lie, or what parts are and what parts aren't, but I have a starting point, because I KNOW just about everything you say about me is untrue, most of it pretty far out nonsense.
    Actually if he still has his data base of hands he probably can verify exactly the Date and time last we played. I still have all my hands from those days stored. I also can prove it with PTR if need be. But it’s
    Not that serious because I know you won’t put up any significant money to bet. This again proves you are fake. We are on a gambling board and you won’t bet shit on the claims you make. I’m
    Willing to bet significant sums on my claims against yours any fucking day of the week fraudj

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