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  1. #41
    At least ozzy finally admitted that Singer's claims aren't real and he only supports him for his baffoonary.

  2. #42
    I believe GWAE had a much larger audience when they had guest that were of good quality on a regular basis. The problem is, you eventually run out of quality quest that are willing to appear on the show.

    I have a hard time believing they get 30k views for shows, such as when the “Tax Guy” is on, or Bob Nersesian, and the “Mail Bag” with stupid questions. As far as the tax guy - Most AP either DON’T pay taxes or massively under report their actual income. There have been some really good shows over the years.


    As far as the story of Bob Dancer leaving $3k in credits on machine while taking a piss - I see no reason as to why he would make up such a story. I see no reason to tell this story if it did not happen. This is not the type of lie that will make you seem cool. I seriously lost a little bit of respect for Dancer for doing that.

    If Dancer wasn’t doing anything nefarious he absolutely should have reported it. He “left a good amount of EV” there. If you have been gone for less than 2 minutes there is a decent chance you get your money back. If it’s an hour later - small chance. Let’s say you get there a minute after the ticket was printed from the machine. You get the NUMBER off the machine, you go straight to security. Most advanced systems upon entering the machine number it will pull up the last transaction “Start to Finish”, most of these systems will start you the video 3 seconds or so before the Cash out Button is pressed, so you see the scumbag walk up. Security sees the transaction start to finish. At least at this point he knows who the loser is that stole the money, as well as being able to enter the ticket number to void the ticket.

    Retail stores have had this technology for at least 15 years. A situation: Customer goes to management and says he gave the clerk a $100 but was only given change for a $20. The manager then scans the customers receipt on his phone and he then is able to view the transaction start to finish, or hit “payment”, and the transaction switches to the overhead view to see the bill the customer gave the clerk. So within 30 seconds of the customer approaching the manager walking the store - he knows wether to pay the customer or realize he is full of Shit.

    If the situation goes absolutely PERFECT, the ticket can be voided in less than 2 minutes from realizing the ticket was stolen. But as most of you guys know- Casino employees are shit, so the length of time will vary. If this is all done quickly enough, I put a 20% chance of getting the ticket voided in time.

    $3,000 x .20 = $600
    He lost $600 in EV by not reporting.

    Also, this would have been a “Crime of opportunity”. There is a good chance that person didn’t enter the casino looking for someone to rip off. They saw the credits and grabbed them. I’d say, at a minimum, a 50% chance he used his Players Card on a machine prior to the theft or he has a vehicle with a license plate in the parking garage. He can be identified this way - wether that results in getting something back who knows.

    As KJ said, Dancer had a very abrupt “NO” when asked if he reported it. I believe it was a machine, for one reason or another - had a massive EV opportunity. Possibly a $1 machine with a incorrect $5 chip. Now that would be something worth doing what he did. The best way to do it is to ask someone around you to “watch” the machine. Specifically an older woman, if possible.

  3. #43
    The only part Bob left out was drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip.

  4. #44
    I guess the babysitters were on strike that day.

  5. #45
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I guess the babysitters were on strike that day.


    GET A FUCKING SLOT ATTENDANT TO WATCH THE MACHINE FOR YOU!!!!

    Bob is getting senile in his old age

  6. #46
    Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    I believe GWAE had a much larger audience when they had guest that were of good quality on a regular basis. The problem is, you eventually run out of quality quest that are willing to appear on the show.

    I have a hard time believing they get 30k views for shows, such as when the “Tax Guy” is on, or Bob Nersesian, and the “Mail Bag” with stupid questions. As far as the tax guy - Most AP either DON’T pay taxes or massively under report their actual income. There have been some really good shows over the years.


    As far as the story of Bob Dancer leaving $3k in credits on machine while taking a piss - I see no reason as to why he would make up such a story. I see no reason to tell this story if it did not happen. This is not the type of lie that will make you seem cool. I seriously lost a little bit of respect for Dancer for doing that.

    If Dancer wasn’t doing anything nefarious he absolutely should have reported it. He “left a good amount of EV” there. If you have been gone for less than 2 minutes there is a decent chance you get your money back. If it’s an hour later - small chance. Let’s say you get there a minute after the ticket was printed from the machine. You get the NUMBER off the machine, you go straight to security. Most advanced systems upon entering the machine number it will pull up the last transaction “Start to Finish”, most of these systems will start you the video 3 seconds or so before the Cash out Button is pressed, so you see the scumbag walk up. Security sees the transaction start to finish. At least at this point he knows who the loser is that stole the money, as well as being able to enter the ticket number to void the ticket.

    Retail stores have had this technology for at least 15 years. A situation: Customer goes to management and says he gave the clerk a $100 but was only given change for a $20. The manager then scans the customers receipt on his phone and he then is able to view the transaction start to finish, or hit “payment”, and the transaction switches to the overhead view to see the bill the customer gave the clerk. So within 30 seconds of the customer approaching the manager walking the store - he knows wether to pay the customer or realize he is full of Shit.

    If the situation goes absolutely PERFECT, the ticket can be voided in less than 2 minutes from realizing the ticket was stolen. But as most of you guys know- Casino employees are shit, so the length of time will vary. If this is all done quickly enough, I put a 20% chance of getting the ticket voided in time.

    $3,000 x .20 = $600
    He lost $600 in EV by not reporting.

    Also, this would have been a “Crime of opportunity”. There is a good chance that person didn’t enter the casino looking for someone to rip off. They saw the credits and grabbed them. I’d say, at a minimum, a 50% chance he used his Players Card on a machine prior to the theft or he has a vehicle with a license plate in the parking garage. He can be identified this way - wether that results in getting something back who knows.

    As KJ said, Dancer had a very abrupt “NO” when asked if he reported it. I believe it was a machine, for one reason or another - had a massive EV opportunity. Possibly a $1 machine with a incorrect $5 chip. Now that would be something worth doing what he did. The best way to do it is to ask someone around you to “watch” the machine. Specifically an older woman, if possible.
    A Woman asked a random Player next to her to watch her machine for her while she peed. She had $500 in credits. The man was like,"Sure, I'll watch your machine for you while you pee!" She thanked him, was welcomed and peed. When she came back, the man was gone and so was her $500! She shouldn't have trusted a random Player to watch her $500 for her. She should have cashed out the ticket and then peed. Or at least ask a Staff Member to watch machine for her.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


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    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



    I am glad to get my full posting rights back! Thank you Dan!

  7. #47
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    A Woman asked a random Player next to her to watch her machine for her while she peed. She had $500 in credits. The man was like,"Sure, I'll watch your machine for you while you pee!" She thanked him, was welcomed and peed. When she came back, the man was gone and so was her $500! She shouldn't have trusted a random Player to watch her $500 for her. She should have cashed out the ticket and then peed. Or at least ask a Staff Member to watch machine for her.
    Or, she could have blown her brains out, having lost the money her mother gave her to apply toward arrearages in rent.

    Or, she could have picked her nose and said "fuck it, I can also steal more out of the Walgreen's till."

    You had lots of choices, Tasha.
    What, Me Worry?

  8. #48
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    A Woman asked a random Player next to her to watch her machine for her while she peed. She had $500 in credits. The man was like,"Sure, I'll watch your machine for you while you pee!" She thanked him, was welcomed and peed. When she came back, the man was gone and so was her $500! She shouldn't have trusted a random Player to watch her $500 for her. She should have cashed out the ticket and then peed. Or at least ask a Staff Member to watch machine for her.
    Or, she could have blown her brains out, having lost the money her mother gave her to apply toward arrearages in rent.

    Or, she could have picked her nose and said "fuck it, I can also steal more out of the Walgreen's till."

    You had lots of choices, Tasha.
    That wasn't me who let a Stranger watch $500 for her. I wouldn't be so idiotic to leave $500 in the hands of some random Player in a Casino. I'd also never steal! I'd never commit suicide!
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


    Smart is knowing a Tomato is a fruit.

    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



    I am glad to get my full posting rights back! Thank you Dan!

  9. #49
    Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    I believe GWAE had a much larger audience when they had guest that were of good quality on a regular basis. The problem is, you eventually run out of quality quest that are willing to appear on the show.
    You basically nailed it here. Mickey, Rob Reitzen and some other GWAE guests are great, but now there are usually much longer dry spells between high quality guests. Now they have flashback episodes where they simply repeat an earlier podcast like they did a couple of weeks back. And of course more mail bag episodes. Bob's mental decline has probably hurt the shows' ability to acquire high quality guests.

  10. #50
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    I believe GWAE had a much larger audience when they had guest that were of good quality on a regular basis. The problem is, you eventually run out of quality quest that are willing to appear on the show.
    Bob's mental decline has probably hurt the shows' ability to acquire high quality guests.
    That in combination with the high pitched little Munchkin.

  11. #51
    They should interview seedvalue, that would be ... strange.

    Claims of millions in profits, a monster trouser snake, and homophobia...the trifecta.
    .
    What, Me Worry?

  12. #52
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I guess the babysitters were on strike that day.


    GET A FUCKING SLOT ATTENDANT TO WATCH THE MACHINE FOR YOU!!!!

    Bob is getting senile in his old age
    It's been a couple of decades since I played there but the local casino personnel in vegas wouldn't watch machines. Big headache.

    Dancer wanted to keep the machine locked up from other AP's. But he should have pulled the big ticket out and put a small bill in.

    I'm on lasix and have to piss at least twice an hour for four hours after I take the pill. So besides weighing up the machine for advantage I also have to reconnoiter the closest restroom.

    When spinning off a Hex I take a pee break when I catch the white kitty race. I won't start the race and I'll also punch up the rules screen. The bill accepter light goes off and the machine won't cash out in the middle of the bonus round. Then I go to the can. The thief will have to get it off the rules screen then start the race. And you can't speed up the race much. It will take him a few minutes to get the money. I don't lollygag around in the can. I'm in and out in a couple of minutes. I work it the same on buffalo diamond.

    But most stuff I play these days doesn't tie up more than 10 or 15 minutes to spin it off.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #53
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I guess the babysitters were on strike that day.


    GET A FUCKING SLOT ATTENDANT TO WATCH THE MACHINE FOR YOU!!!!

    Bob is getting senile in his old age
    It's been a couple of decades since I played there but the local casino personnel in vegas wouldn't watch machines. Big headache.

    Dancer wanted to keep the machine locked up from other AP's. But he should have pulled the big ticket out and put a small bill in.

    I'm on lasix and have to piss at least twice an hour for four hours after I take the pill. So besides weighing up the machine for advantage I also have to reconnoiter the closest restroom.

    When spinning off a Hex I take a pee break when I catch the white kitty race. I won't start the race and I'll also punch up the rules screen. The bill accepter light goes off and the machine won't cash out in the middle of the bonus round. Then I go to the can. The thief will have to get it off the rules screen then start the race. And you can't speed up the race much. It will take him a few minutes to get the money. I don't lollygag around in the can. I'm in and out in a couple of minutes. I work it the same on buffalo diamond.

    But most stuff I play these days doesn't tie up more than 10 or 15 minutes to spin it off.
    An elderly Woman said a thief tried to steal her money during a Bonus Round for China Shores. She has a choice of,"Cash prize," or "Free Spins." She was just about to choose,"Free Spins," when a random hand came out of nowhere and chose,"Cash Prize." The game gave her the lowest Cash Prize available, and she was FURIOUS! She beat him up for causing her to get the lowest Cash Prize when she didn't even want to choose the Cash Prize in the first place! She reported him to Casino and it turns out he had been stealing from multiple Slots. He assumed that "Cash Prize," was the same as,"Cash out." He was so wrong in more ways than one. Casino Staff didn't trespass her for Assault. They even gave her free play, the equivalent of what she could have won had he not pressed Cash Prize for her without her consent or permission. They trespassed him for life.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

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    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



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  14. #54
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    They should interview seedvalue, that would be ... strange.

    Claims of millions in profits, a monster trouser snake, and homophobia...the trifecta.
    .
    I also think ZenKing would make a good guest on that show.

  15. #55
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    They should interview seedvalue, that would be ... strange.

    Claims of millions in profits, a monster trouser snake, and homophobia...the trifecta.
    .
    I also think ZenKing would make a good guest on that show.
    Speaking of ZK. Zenking will be attempting to eat 100 nuggets. He is getting 2-1

    Most everyone is on the No, I had 1k down, but sold off $200 to Romes.

    Zenking only has about $300-$500 on himself.

  16. #56
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    They should interview seedvalue, that would be ... strange.

    Claims of millions in profits, a monster trouser snake, and homophobia...the trifecta.
    .
    I also think ZenKing would make a good guest on that show.
    Speaking of ZK. Zenking will be attempting to eat 100 nuggets. He is getting 2-1

    Most everyone is on the No, I had 1k down, but sold off $200 to Romes.

    Zenking only has about $300-$500 on himself.
    Good luck to Zen King putting your life in a nugget. I hope him the best and hope we all find some new pussy.

  17. #57
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    They should interview seedvalue, that would be ... strange.

    Claims of millions in profits, a monster trouser snake, and homophobia...the trifecta.
    .
    I also think ZenKing would make a good guest on that show.
    Speaking of ZK. Zenking will be attempting to eat 100 nuggets. He is getting 2-1

    Most everyone is on the No, I had 1k down, but sold off $200 to Romes.

    Zenking only has about $300-$500 on himself.
    For a beanpole skeleton like Zenking, this will definitely be a challenge. Heck even 245 pound Marathon Mission couldn't do it.

  18. #58
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Yeah once you revealed yourself as a puppet for WON you put yourself into the line of fire. I’ve never attempted to dox you. I literally found everything about you by hiring a PI, because you essentially outed yourself as a puppet for him. No games here bitch. I got the goods and don’t give a fuck about your legal system. I’m not interested in doxing you to anyone. I Just wanted to have the information if I needed it.

    You may find yourself in the middle of something by accident just because you can’t stop the lies. Fuck off
    What the FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I am a puppet of WON? I don't even want to know. You are stacking absurdity upon absurdity. Talking to you is like talking to one of the mumbling crazy street people that also make no sense. I am going to bed shortly and am done wasting time with you and your agenda and little threats.

    Jesus fucking Christ freak !! You literally have posted 35 times and typed ten of thousands of characters since I last visited this board !! Lol yet people actually think you are real ? Lol seriously there’s zero shot you are an AP lol. Fucking freak

  19. #59
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    They should interview seedvalue, that would be ... strange.

    Claims of millions in profits, a monster trouser snake, and homophobia...the trifecta.
    .
    I declined at the risk of actually doxing my team


    I don’t seek clout don’t need it. The problem with guys today is they chase clout as they seek validation.

    My validation is helping people make life changing money. For some that could be as little as 10k. Others millions. It’s not about clout or being recognized.

    These guys run all these websites promoting “networking” because it helps them grow a following to profit. I don’t seek to network. I Don’t need it I’m the source.

    Your problem V is that your a drug addict. You Abuse the one drug that convinces you it’s ok to be average and settle for mediocrity. So it’s literally impossible for you to comprehend the amount of work and hours I put in. It’s hard for you to really grasp the decades Long passion I have to beat casinos. At this point I rather beat a casino for $50 then sit in a poker game where I could possibly win thousands. You really just don’t get it.

    Why you defend a lying drama queen fraud like Kewj after having a semi successful career as a lawyer is baffling. Seriously odd

  20. #60
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    They should interview seedvalue, that would be ... strange.

    Claims of millions in profits, a monster trouser snake, and homophobia...the trifecta.
    .
    I also think ZenKing would make a good guest on that show.
    Speaking of ZK. Zenking will be attempting to eat 100 nuggets. He is getting 2-1

    Most everyone is on the No, I had 1k down, but sold off $200 to Romes.

    Zenking only has about $300-$500 on himself.
    I was witness to this.

    Zenking did it in 48 minutes. He then managed to avoid throwing up.

    Congrats to him. He should have had more action on himself.
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