Professional Sportsbetting

[kewlJ]

This guy repeatedly quotes himself and the has the gall to talk about mental disorders, which no doubt he is familiar with.

[MDawg]

Nothing about your online blackjack persona is real. However over the years you have in an attempt to legitimize this persona revealed personal information about yourself. Clearly you have a mental disorder stemming from the traumatic day spent with neighbor Guy as a young boy.

[mickeycrimm]

So it was one year ago that I began my sports betting bonus whoring at off shore sports books. I had been aware of this for some time and just didn't want to bother. It was actually a comment by Axelwolf that convinced me to give it a try. He said something to the effect that anyone could make 50k a year, even if you know little about sports. Well I am actually a sports enthusiast. Don't know if that works for or against me.

So I played 4 books over the year. 2 that I already bet with (-EV) and 2 more recommended by other people. Over the course of the year I completed multiple rollover cycles and withdraws at all 4. Now I don't know how many sports book Axelwolf had in mind with his comment but I played 4 and did a little better than the number he claimed for the year.

Now, our resident sports expert/know it all, Redietz, said that I would quickly be cut off, doing what I am doing. So far he is mostly wrong. One of the 4 stopped offering the really good bonuses and rollover that I received for 3 cycles, but the other 3 have not. Still the same good offers and rollovers. And I added 2 new books to start the football season to replace the one that cut offers.

Red, could still be right in that at some point, I may start getting cut off by everyone. And if that happens that is fine. But so far so good. Looking forward to another fun and profitable football season, beginning with Half Smokes "1st 2 weeks NFL play". Happy football to all!

You don't have to wait until you are cut off. Sign your brother up, bankroll it and give him a small cut. Then do the same with your mother. Then your friends.

[redietz]

I have to step in here and state the obvious. If you think, as kewlJ suggests based on an ancient Axelwolf statement, that "anyone can make 50K a year" bonus whoring --- LOL. That surely explains Axelwolf's standard of living. I need to borrow his Lambo one of these days.

You do realize that if you're dealing with non-corporate offshores, half of them have, as they say in business classrooms, interlocking directorates. So they are aware of who and what addresses are on what rosters of which sportsbooks. And just to be clear, if you dealing with an offshore, they can assign a label to you and -- unless you like venturing to Costa Rica to try to track down your funds while wearing Kevlar -- they can keep your money based on that label.

As far as the "legit" U.S. sportsbooks offering bonuses, I suggest everyone amped up for coordinated bonus whoring seriously consult a certain half of the Gambling with an Edge team as to the current issues some folks have had with "legit sportsbooks." I'm up to speed as to about a year ago, but I'm sure he has much in the way of more recent caveats.

Now I say this as someone who just pulled in a bevy of 100% bonuses in the last 30 days. What I'm telling you is that if what you are doing is an attempt at mega-coordinated family-and-friends bonus whoring, you place everyone's money at risk. But go ahead, you all are adults, however contrary the evidence.

This, by the way, is my last public service announcement at VCT. If you think mickey crimm and kewlJ have more experience in this than I do, well, you deserve whatever happens. Nothing like thinking you're a genius with what amounts to a family-and-friends bonus Ponzi scheme. You think people haven't been attempting this stuff for the last 25 years? Oh wait -- pardone -- the VCT "APs" are a cut above mere mortals. Forgot about that. And Axelwolf, God bless him. There's an exemplar for the ages.

[smurgerburger]

I am embarrassed for you.

[Rob.Singer]

I dont get the controversy. Its easy money. I'm no sportsbetting savant, yet I've profitted slightly more than $28k "whoring" these legit US bonuses with an assist from just members of my family. It wasn't difficult either; but it sure was fun.

[AxelWolf]

I have to step in here and state the obvious. If you think, as kewlJ suggests based on an ancient Axelwolf statement, that "anyone can make 50K a year" bonus whoring --- LOL. That surely explains Axelwolf's standard of living. I need to borrow his Lambo one of these days.

You do realize that if you're dealing with non-corporate offshores, half of them have, as they say in business classrooms, interlocking directorates. So they are aware of who and what addresses are on what rosters of which sportsbooks. And just to be clear, if you dealing with an offshore, they can assign a label to you and -- unless you like venturing to Costa Rica to try to track down your funds while wearing Kevlar -- they can keep your money based on that label.

As far as the "legit" U.S. sportsbooks offering bonuses, I suggest everyone amped up for coordinated bonus whoring seriously consult a certain half of the Gambling with an Edge team as to the current issues some folks have had with "legit sportsbooks." I'm up to speed as to about a year ago, but I'm sure he has much in the way of more recent caveats.

Now I say this as someone who just pulled in a bevy of 100% bonuses in the last 30 days. What I'm telling you is that if what you are doing is an attempt at mega-coordinated family-and-friends bonus whoring, you place everyone's money at risk. But go ahead, you all are adults, however contrary the evidence.

This, by the way, is my last public service announcement at VCT. If you think mickey crimm and kewlJ have more experience in this than I do, well, you deserve whatever happens. Nothing like thinking you're a genius with what amounts to a family-and-friends bonus Ponzi scheme. You think people haven't been attempting this stuff for the last 25 years? Oh wait -- pardone -- the VCT "APs" are a cut above mere mortals. Forgot about that. And Axelwolf, God bless him. There's an exemplar for the ages.

Context man, context. You indicated it was hard and that very few people could make money from sports betting blah, blah, blah. I was talking about someone with very little knowledge and understanding all while putting in a small amount of hours and effort without a large bankroll.

That 50k would be added to whatever else one was doing for money. With more skill and some thinking outside the box, one could make much much more.

I dont know where you have been, but most APs have or have had friends and family getting them accounts for one thing or another, It has been going on for decades.

I do not think it's any different than hiring runners or whatever other kinds of things people hire others for in sports.

I honestly, think you're just mad you didn't get in on the big lucrative action and missed the boat with multi-accounting sports with huge advantages.
So now you want to claim you had/have a moral issue with it.

Come on bro, weren't you a tout, or didn't you work for one for a while? whatever the case, you attempted to recruit investors for sports with, suggested returns, etc etc, right? just naming it Integrity Sports doesn't make it honest with strong moral principles.

But for some reason, you think paying people for what they would never use or do in the first place is unethical.

FYI when some people say "Friends and family" It's just a nice way of saying they are getting Joe Blows to get them accounts. Heck, I dont think I have ever had a family member get me an online sports account.

There are numerous AP's who don't bet on sports or fuck around with online stuff(regulated or not). They understand it's a really good deal, but they are more than happy to take a flat fee or % and let you take advantage of the good deal. Perhaps they want you to get them a player's card in exchange.



Lambo, I know one AP that has one but I think that was a BTC Lambo.

I have had some nice sports cars over the years, and I have always loved Lambos, but I lost interest in that kinda crazy in my mid-30s.

Nowadays, I'm buying RVs, boats, electric bikes, and Cargo Vans and selling a sports truck, and a Mercedes. I have even been looking at some Tractors and Blackhoes. (No Tasha, I wasn't directing that at you, I meant backhoe)

I spent the last 3 Months traveling thousands of miles through Washington, Oregon, and California, and back through Washington again( I've said it many times. I, dislike the desert and Vegas is not my favorite place ) I was fishing lakes rivers streams, and creeks, going to beaches while looking at properties and putting offers in, and even buying many acres of waterfront land. I'm going back soon for another round to get more. I'm looking at some beachfront property, mainly because my wife loves the beach. I'll probably buy some mining claims as well.

I have not been putting in many AP hours for years now, and now I'm going to be super semi-retired (it's probably a bit early but, I'm not waiting until I'm in my 60's).

I am going to go live the dream I had since I was a teen and try to live my best life. No hate from me man, once I get settled, you and others are welcome to come and shoot,hunt, fish, ride Quads, raft/boat, pan/mine for gold & silver, etc.

[mickeycrimm]

I have to step in here and state the obvious. If you think, as kewlJ suggests based on an ancient Axelwolf statement, that "anyone can make 50K a year" bonus whoring --- LOL. That surely explains Axelwolf's standard of living. I need to borrow his Lambo one of these days.

You do realize that if you're dealing with non-corporate offshores, half of them have, as they say in business classrooms, interlocking directorates. So they are aware of who and what addresses are on what rosters of which sportsbooks. And just to be clear, if you dealing with an offshore, they can assign a label to you and -- unless you like venturing to Costa Rica to try to track down your funds while wearing Kevlar -- they can keep your money based on that label.

As far as the "legit" U.S. sportsbooks offering bonuses, I suggest everyone amped up for coordinated bonus whoring seriously consult a certain half of the Gambling with an Edge team as to the current issues some folks have had with "legit sportsbooks." I'm up to speed as to about a year ago, but I'm sure he has much in the way of more recent caveats.

Now I say this as someone who just pulled in a bevy of 100% bonuses in the last 30 days. What I'm telling you is that if what you are doing is an attempt at mega-coordinated family-and-friends bonus whoring, you place everyone's money at risk. But go ahead, you all are adults, however contrary the evidence.

This, by the way, is my last public service announcement at VCT. If you think mickey crimm and kewlJ have more experience in this than I do, well, you deserve whatever happens. Nothing like thinking you're a genius with what amounts to a family-and-friends bonus Ponzi scheme. You think people haven't been attempting this stuff for the last 25 years? Oh wait -- pardone -- the VCT "APs" are a cut above mere mortals. Forgot about that. And Axelwolf, God bless him. There's an exemplar for the ages.

I was just passing on what the experts say. You will find a lot of them earlier in this thread. According to them, getting money confiscated does happen and is a business expense. They also point out that you can get ripped off by the person whose account you are using. But even with "getting ripped off" factored in it's still highly lucrative to them.

Redietz, the high tech kids have passed up you dinosaur sports handicappers.

[AxelWolf]

I have to step in here and state the obvious. If you think, as kewlJ suggests based on an ancient Axelwolf statement, that "anyone can make 50K a year" bonus whoring --- LOL. That surely explains Axelwolf's standard of living. I need to borrow his Lambo one of these days.

You do realize that if you're dealing with non-corporate offshores, half of them have, as they say in business classrooms, interlocking directorates. So they are aware of who and what addresses are on what rosters of which sportsbooks. And just to be clear, if you dealing with an offshore, they can assign a label to you and -- unless you like venturing to Costa Rica to try to track down your funds while wearing Kevlar -- they can keep your money based on that label.

As far as the "legit" U.S. sportsbooks offering bonuses, I suggest everyone amped up for coordinated bonus whoring seriously consult a certain half of the Gambling with an Edge team as to the current issues some folks have had with "legit sportsbooks." I'm up to speed as to about a year ago, but I'm sure he has much in the way of more recent caveats.

Now I say this as someone who just pulled in a bevy of 100% bonuses in the last 30 days. What I'm telling you is that if what you are doing is an attempt at mega-coordinated family-and-friends bonus whoring, you place everyone's money at risk. But go ahead, you all are adults, however contrary the evidence.

This, by the way, is my last public service announcement at VCT. If you think mickey crimm and kewlJ have more experience in this than I do, well, you deserve whatever happens. Nothing like thinking you're a genius with what amounts to a family-and-friends bonus Ponzi scheme. You think people haven't been attempting this stuff for the last 25 years? Oh wait -- pardone -- the VCT "APs" are a cut above mere mortals. Forgot about that. And Axelwolf, God bless him. There's an exemplar for the ages.

They also point out that you can get ripped off by the person whose account you are using.

Depending on a few factors, there are ways to avoid that.

[accountinquestion]

I just can't figure out why redietz's ass is always gaping. Somehow a bug always manages to fly up his butt.

Weird.

[kewlJ]

Opening Day NFL is here. Well that is if you don't count the two opening night games already played.

I am heavily invested in two different trends backed by more than a decade of results. Underdogs + point in the first two weeks and total unders the first week. Already 0-2 on both trends.

Having max bet each game at my 5 sports books AND placed additional cash bets around town at B & M books, it feels like maybe I over did it. Have too much invested. I am a little nervous. A complete reversal on both trends over the last decades could be costly. Fingers crossed.

[redietz]

Mike McCusker had a label for folks blindly betting historical trends. He referred to them in print as "trendsvestites."

While he was writing in the 80's and 90's, his prose and logic have held up remarkably well.

[redietz]

I just can't figure out why redietz's ass is always gaping. Somehow a bug always manages to fly up his butt.

Weird.

Yeah. Weird, indeed. So weird that Gambling with an Edge has been focused on it and reporting on exactly what I mention in the above post.

As Hunter Thompson famously said many times, "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."

[MisterV]

"Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why"

.--- Hunter S. Thompson

[kewlJ]

Mike McCusker had a label for folks blindly betting historical trends. He referred to them in print as "trendsvestites."

While he was writing in the 80's and 90's, his prose and logic have held up remarkably well.

Does McCusker have a "label" for people that don't pay their taxes?

I can tell you this much Red. No matter how I do today, I can and will meet all my financial obligations, and you won't hear any weird explanations that make sense to no one.

[redietz]

Mike McCusker had a label for folks blindly betting historical trends. He referred to them in print as "trendsvestites."

While he was writing in the 80's and 90's, his prose and logic have held up remarkably well.

Does McCusker have a "label" for people that don't pay their taxes?

I can tell you this much Red. No matter how I do today, I can and will meet all my financial obligations, and you won't hear any weird explanations that make sense to no one.

If you're referring to me -- LOL -- my credit rating is undoubtedly higher than yours. Probably much higher. Tell you what, I'll spot you 30 points and bet dinner on it. Oh wait, then we'd all know kewlJ's actual name. Cannot do that, can we? He's an AP. A trendsvestite AP, but an AP nonetheless.

These trendsvestites -- so sensitive. How are your trends plays doing today thus far?

[MisterV]

KJ does have a point: how can we overllook the failure to pay property taxes?

How can we overlook Robert Singer filing chapter seven bankruptcy?

I'm sure there are "good reasons" for it, but regardless the action leaves a bit of a stigma.

It also provides fodder for personal attacks.

[Rob.Singer]

KJ does have a point: how can we overllook the failure to pay property taxes?

How can we overlook Robert Singer filing chapter seven bankruptcy?

I'm sure there are "good reasons" for it, but regardless the action leaves a bit of a stigma.

It also provides fodder for personal attacks.

Funny stuff. Since youre stuck in the mid nineties, you forgot to mention how I was arrested for fighting in Turkmenistan and had to spend 4 days in one of the roughest shithole jails in the world.

Worked out well for me though What type car are YOU driving today? How wonderful does kew's life appear? How long YOU been happily married? How many houses have YOU bought for your children? Who has the resources to travel and do what WE do, among the little people? It's king of sickening to a bunch of gambling miscreants (especially the queer ones) isn't it....

I'm watching Tom Brady's first ever broadcasting career game.

Get some rest V.

[MDawg]

At least REDietz owns property on which to pay tax. MDawg lives rent free in UNKewlJ's head, when UNKewlJ isn't dwelling rent free in the Vegas tunnels.



I'm traveling (been traveling pretty consistently this entire year) and offered a simple wager to UNKewlJ to back it up. Predictably, he scurried away like the rat that he is. Whenever he has claimed to be somewhere other than the tunnels, he has been unable to provide anything whatsoever to back it up, not even a pic of a surfboard for pay, or of a CA beach, or a back East pic that passes any sort of muster. You can't get far when you're broke and homeless.

KJ, I might believe you, however, you just have way too many interesting things/stories Etc that for some reason or another you can never provide any proof. There's always some, for lack of a better word, Bullshit reason why you can't/won't. It seems as if it would be in your best interest to not mention anything in the first place if you can't provide one iota of proof for whatever reason.

after 20 years of posting has never produced one iota of proof about anything he ever claimed or ever said. Not even a picture

[MDawg]

UNKewlJ can't post what he doesn't have. Which includes about everything he has ever talked about other than some red or green chips.