Professional Sportsbetting

[AxelWolf]

He still can't resist pretending that he ever leaves the sewers or enters casinos other than to ply his trade (after taking a shower at the shelter or nearest open drainpipe so that he'll have a better chance hustling).

I have built up too much money on online offshore sports books. At this point pure value betting is no longer my priority. I need to focus on attempting to direct the flow of the money to B&M casinos either online or offline(convert into instant cash)
I haven't had time to mess with anything online for the last 10 days or so. I don't think I have even opened my laptop.

[Treeshade]

He still can't resist pretending that he ever leaves the sewers or enters casinos other than to ply his trade (after taking a shower at the shelter or nearest open drainpipe so that he'll have a better chance hustling).

I have built up too much money on online offshore sports books. At this point pure value betting is no longer my priority. I need to focus on attempting to direct the flow of the money to B&M casinos either online or offline(convert into instant cash)
I haven't had time to mess with anything online for the last 10 days or so. I don't think I have even opened my laptop.

People don’t understand how much of a hassle this can be. If you know you know

[Keystone]

He still can't resist pretending that he ever leaves the sewers or enters casinos other than to ply his trade (after taking a shower at the shelter or nearest open drainpipe so that he'll have a better chance hustling).

I have built up too much money on online offshore sports books. At this point pure value betting is no longer my priority. I need to focus on attempting to direct the flow of the money to B&M casinos either online or offline(convert into instant cash)
I haven't had time to mess with anything online for the last 10 days or so. I don't think I have even opened my laptop.

People don’t understand how much of a hassle this can be. If you know you know

Quit lying you broke bitch

[monet]

While you guys are busy jacking off, some of us are actually betting Hockey...

[Gottlob1]

Oh, wow! A sign that you and Crimm really are now joined at hip by his latest signature line, "Monet sucks tourist cock in the casino bathroom stalls."

While you guys are busy jacking off, some of us are actually betting Hockey...

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I guess that the standard ending, -ologist, just wasn't good enough for you two. Ha.

[Treeshade]

I have built up too much money on online offshore sports books. At this point pure value betting is no longer my priority. I need to focus on attempting to direct the flow of the money to B&M casinos either online or offline(convert into instant cash)
I haven't had time to mess with anything online for the last 10 days or so. I don't think I have even opened my laptop.

People don’t understand how much of a hassle this can be. If you know you know

Quit lying you broke bitch

Lol broke lololol

[Half Smoke]

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the 49ers who just crushed the Boys have won their 5 games by an average of 19.8 points - the lowest # they beat anybody by is 7 points

maybe weak teams - but still - pretty impressive

they're 9.5 faves vs. the Browns on Sunday - in their last game the Browns got crushed by 25 by the Ravens

I'll take the 9ers - don't mind giving up that many points in a situation like this

the news says that Browns QB Deshaun Watson will sit with an injury and P.J. Walker will start at QB - in 3 years he's thrown 5 TDs and 11 picks

.

[mickeycrimm]

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[mickeycrimm]

I was 25 games over .500 after the first couple weeks, thanks to Half smokes, "first 2 weeks NFL underdog' play, Druff fast NFL start, betting college football unders the first week (new college rules) and even my own picks. But that is dropping steadily now. I am 13 games above .500 as we speak. I am just trying to get through my rollover requirements over .500, as close to as possible as the real +EV is the bonus. I am burning through my rollover requirements pretty quickly, almost 50% through. I thought it would take until Thanksgiveing, but it may be earlier than that.

KJ, redietz has a problem with the numbers you've posted. Over on Gambling Forums he's calling you a liar. But he did what he's famous for, he put down a false premise. He said that you said you were 25 games above .500 betting NFL underdogs. We know that is not true. You didn't say you were only betting NFL dogs. You said you were 25 games above .500 by betting a combination of NFL dogs, Druff picks and college unders.

He continued mudslinging, albeit with false information:

He says AP opportunities are dying up. ROTFLMAO! He knows absolutely nothing about AP's or AP'ing. How would he know the state of things? I personally know that AP opportunities are everywhere. They are not drying up. The only thing that's drying up is my ability to put in the hours. Nowadays, I hit it a couple hours a day at most. I ain't busting a sweat anymore. I leave a lot of expectation behind. I'm smelling a lot of roses these days.

He says moving into sportsbetting is fashionable among us. He says VCT AP's are trying to "sucker in" investors. ROTFLMAO! No one on this site has a record of soliciting for investors....except redietz. My take on investors is why the fuck would I want to make money for someone else when I can have it all to myself.

Anyways, here's the link to redietz rant:

https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...-at-vct.26479/

[kewlJ]

Thanks (not really) for bringing it to my attention, mickey. I don't really care what redietz says. I certainly am not going to bother answering him over there. If he wants to discuss it here I could reply.

But really you responded for me mickey. My very good start was not just NFL, although Half smokes first 2 week's angle was a big part of it as underdogs kicked ass those first 2 weeks. Druff also started 6-1, I think. So that was 2/3 right there. And the college unders the second week which I announced before any of the games kicked ass as well. I was only betting the unders on the completive games, with 2 normal conference teams. I was not being games like Oklahoma and Est bubble fuck state that went 77-10. The reason I thought the unders were a good bet for a couple weeks was the new running clock rules. I thought that was more of an adjustment than people (and the books) were making it. And it was for the week I bet. I intended to bet a second week, but, I was out playing blackjack all night and never got that second weeks bets in.

So that is where my +25 in the first few weeks came from. It was all documented what I was betting before the games were played. Unfortunately, after that I started relying more on my own picks, a lot of +3, +3.5. +7, +7.5 picks in both college and pros and went down hill for a few weeks. this week was better for me both college and Pro so far.

I just want to finish the next few weeks at .500 or close and I will be elated.

Does Redeitz understand that the +EV of this for me was NOT winning games, but rather the 21k in bonus money?

[MDawg]

As far as UNKewlJ’s sports betting, let’s keep it simple.

Maybe I can step in here and help,

It Never Happened.

You're welcome....

[mickeycrimm]

Thanks (not really) for bringing it to my attention, mickey. I don't really care what redietz says. I certainly am not going to bother answering him over there. If he wants to discuss it here I could reply.

But really you responded for me mickey. My very good start was not just NFL, although Half smokes first 2 week's angle was a big part of it as underdogs kicked ass those first 2 weeks. Druff also started 6-1, I think. So that was 2/3 right there. And the college unders the second week which I announced before any of the games kicked ass as well. I was only betting the unders on the completive games, with 2 normal conference teams. I was not being games like Oklahoma and Est bubble fuck state that went 77-10. The reason I thought the unders were a good bet for a couple weeks was the new running clock rules. I thought that was more of an adjustment than people (and the books) were making it. And it was for the week I bet. I intended to bet a second week, but, I was out playing blackjack all night and never got that second weeks bets in.

So that is where my +25 in the first few weeks came from. It was all documented what I was betting before the games were played. Unfortunately, after that I started relying more on my own picks, a lot of +3, +3.5. +7, +7.5 picks in both college and pros and went down hill for a few weeks. this week was better for me both college and Pro so far.

I just want to finish the next few weeks at .500 or close and I will be elated.

Does Redeitz understand that the +EV of this for me was NOT winning games, but rather the 21k in bonus money?

redietz is crying out for attention over at Gambling Forums. It's easy to tell his feelings are hurt. He misses you guys but doesn't want to come slithering back to VCT with all that mud on his face. So he's writing posts on GA slandering the members here and hoping to get our attention.

But he did bring up an interesting point. And that is about middles betting when you are chasing the bonuses. He said you should have switched to middles betting after getting 25 games above .500.

I would have questions about that. Is middling the way to go when working these promotions? How much time is involved? Seems to me sitting watching numbers all day in hopes of finding a middle would be way to time consuming. Time that would cost one money on other AP endeavors. Why would one start middling after unexpectedly gaining a huge lead? Why wouldn't one start middling from the get go?

redietz is a one trick pony, sportsbetting. He's never shown any aptitude at other forums of gambling, although he loves to speculate about what "AP's" do. And it's always false and/or derogatory speculation. He's always lashing out.

I don't think he knows anything about how AP's are constantly managing their time. I was always making choices of whether I should be on this play or that play. Or could I work both plays simultaneously? What would be the benefit of working just one of the plays? What would be the benefit of working both plays? What if working both plays meant I couldn't optimize the expectation on either play but I made more money than if I worked just one play. That would be the way to go.

I think that's what AP's run into when working these sports betting promotions. They don't have unlimited time to spend looking for middles because it would cost them income in other areas.

[kewlJ]

Mickey, I still believe Redietz is a person who make his money from sports betting for many years/decades. And I think that is part of his problem. He can't accept that modern day AP's are able to make money off sports betting now, using the bonuses and stuff. Not even handicapping games. Axelwolf is the perfect example. Axelwolf has told everyone long ago, he has no real interest in sports, or casual at best. But he is an AP and saw the opportunity with the bonus stuff. I actually am a sports enthusiast. And my sports betting up til now has been that of a ploppie sports enthusiast. It was always entertainment for me.

But I have now followed axelwolfs lead and am playing the bonus game. Am I playing it the most efficient way possible doing things like middling? playing it the way redietz would? No. It isn't my full time gig. And I don't have hours and hours to spend watching for line changes. As a matter of fact, I make all my wagers on Friday night in a 9 hour window to take advantage of the 5% vig. I am simp,ly volume betting, hoping to be above or as close to 50% as possible to eat as little of my bonus money as I can. My bonus money was 21k and I am hoping to clear 18k. Part-time supplemental for me. I am not trying to be a full-time sports bettor. And then, if it all works and I get paid, I will start a second cycle for the second half of football season bleeding over to January/february and I guess some NHL/NBA games. That is why I am pushing to get through my first cycle quickly. Again, I am sorry if redietz doesn't approve.

And you are right about managing our time. It so happens for the last year or two, weekends has been my busy time. I play blackjack Friday and Saturday nights during the busier times. Sometimes playing 10-12 hours straight through morning. And then watch sports during the day, which I enjoy doing. I am not sitting there for hours and hours looking for some last second line move so I can middle.

I am sorry if redietz doesn't approve or appreciate what I or any of the AP's are doing with sports betting and the bonuses. Redeitz reminds me of some of the older blackjack card counters that I still encounter on a couple forums. Guys that played in the 80's and 90's when card counting WAS advantage play. They seem annoyed at all the different advantage play things players are doing now. That is exactly how I see redeitz. Old school, annoyed at the opportunities and things players can do now. Well get the fuck over it redietz. IT is 2023!

[kewlJ]

Mickeycrimm, you really fucked up this Redeitz guy.

He apparently so desperately wants or wanted people to think that he is something special...the only person on the face of the earth capable if making money off sports betting, that he is losing his mind at the thought that others can using fairly simple bonus whoring like Axel and I are doing.

You really did a number on him Crimm.

[kewlJ]

I still think Redeitz was successful at what he did and still does with sports betting and the contests and everything.

[Treeshade]

Mickeycrimm, you really fucked up this Redeitz guy.

He apparently so desperately wants or wanted people to think that he is something special...the only person on the face of the earth capable if making money off sports betting, that he is losing his mind at the thought that others can using fairly simple bonus whoring like Axel and I are doing.

You really did a number on him Crimm.

Let’s not forget that GroomJ looks at his current sexual partner through the lens of him being in
HIGH-SCHOOL with his brother. A Freudian Slip indeed for This perverted fraud

[mickeycrimm]

Mickeycrimm, you really fucked up this Redeitz guy.

He apparently so desperately wants or wanted people to think that he is something special...the only person on the face of the earth capable if making money off sports betting, that he is losing his mind at the thought that others can using fairly simple bonus whoring like Axel and I are doing.

You really did a number on him Crimm.

All I've done is point out the facts and the truth. But his attitude is so belligerant that it's hard to stay civil with him. Plus, he has lately shown he is susceptible to gambler's fallacies.

[accountinquestion]

Feel free to post any links to these posts with Redietz rambling on about APs in the safety of not being on VCT.

[kewlJ]

All I've done is point out the facts and the truth. But his attitude is so belligerant that it's hard to stay civil with him. Plus, he has lately shown he is susceptible to gambler's fallacies.

He makes it sound like +25 games is so unusual.

these are the 3 angles I announced ahead of time I was playing:
1) Half smokes NFL under dogs first 2 weeks. Both weeks went 10-6 = +8
2) Dan Druffs picks went 6-1 = +5 for a total of +13
3) College Unders in competitive games. Week 1 11-8, week 2 14-8 = +9 for a total of +22 (wanted to play week 3, but didn't get bets in)

That is 51-29 right there or +22 of the 25. WTF?? Starting to wonder if he is math challenged or something?

Basically what it is, is that redietz wants the narrative to be that no one can win at sports betting but him. He is the expert.

Well guess what, I am not an expert. Don't claim to be. What makes what I am doing +EV is the very simple bonus whoring (is that the right term) activity. Just so happens I used some trends to make my picks that carried over well the first few weeks.

[mickeycrimm]

Feel free to post any links to these posts with Redietz rambling on about APs in the safety of not being on VCT.

https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa....15744/page-78

https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...-at-vct.26479/