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  1. #481
    It's a toss between Rob and Alex W, the 2 sharps that I'd like to hear on GWAE. Comrade is way down on the list

  2. #482
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    It's a toss between Rob and Alex W, the 2 sharps that I'd like to hear on GWAE. Comrade is way down on the list
    Okay Alex W is slightly ahead of Argentino

  3. #483
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    VSIN stands for Vegas Sports Information Network. They have a lot of podcasts. Here's a link:

    https://www.vsin.com/
    Am I calling Fezzik a liar? LOL. I'm calling him, on this, an optimistic bullshitter with a little bit of self-serving in there.

    I was doing it, and mainly to kill time. So if you want me to call Fezzik a liar, sure, happy to do so. I'd estimate that I made a couple thousand a year during its heyday. It's no sure thing -- there are only really 12 weeks in a college football season. I'd throw a couple hundred a week at it, and I'd say the most I made any given year was maybe 5K or a little more. I might have made 7K or 8K one year. I did it to kill time, not as some income staple. I lost money on it at least one year, but it wasn't a lot, less than 2K.

    Mickey, you simply don't know anything. I was being kind in my estimate of how many people were doing this. Maybe one person in 20 in the sports book at the Stardust was doing this. Why would Vacarro or Lupo bother to correct Fezzik? What would be the percentage in doing so? And do you really think somebody like Vacarro or Lupo listens to GWAE regularly? These guys are semi-legends.

    You just have no knowledge, man. It didn't take a Leonardo da AP to do the parlay card thing. Anybody with half a brain, presented with these scenarios, would be doing it a couple of weeks or a month into the opportunity. It's an OBVIOUS thing to do. Obvious, easy, requiring very little expertise other than being able to invest a few dollars and a little squinting at cards.

    I mean, really, you're saying that you never figured out to do it?

    Then what the hell do you APs do? Sit and stare at things and hope some simple math saves the day? I'm telling you this is one of the most OBVIOUS, EASY, and UBIQUITOUS angles in sports betting. And it has been since parlay cards were invented. If people like you, Witteles, kewlJ, Seed, Axelwolf never did it, it would suggest you were all, to be politically incorrect, a bit on the tard side.

    Mickey, you just do not know what you are talking about. It's disturbing. I can sit down with anybody who bet serious amounts in the 80's and early 90's, mention this, and they will know exactly what I'm talking about. It was no secret, no big AP play. For the books, it was the cost of business of putting parlay cards out on Tuesday and even Wednesday morning. It always has been.

    You just have no perspective and very little knowledge. Jesus.

    I had a brief email exchange with Munch. Not with Dancer. I received no follow-up emails. I'll be in Las Vegas April 17-21. If you want me to wing it then in an interview with them, go ahead and set it up. I have no qualms. I would think anybody popularizing the Bet Bash thing might have some reservations about asking me some stuff. Can you imagine if casinos invited card counters for "Counting Bash?" or machine players for "AP Bash?" What would counters and machine players say was going on? A helpful exchange of useful info between players? I think not. LOL.

    I'll also be in LV during July with an East Coast Mafia expert to give a semi-historical tour for The Gangster Chronicles. If GWAE would like to do anything then, great. pass it along. You gotta realize -- GWAE and LVA were very late to the sports betting party. They are not top flight experts. I've read LVA almost since its inception -- they kind of staggered into the sports betting scene very late.
    LOLOLOLOL! You are the ignorant one for thinking your dumb ass shit will fly. Get a clue. Vaccaro and Lupo were important to you but now they are not? Flip,flop,flip,flop,flip,flop.... You've got more routes than Greyhound Bus Lines.

    But thanks for admitting you were just a small potatoes bettor. That took courage.

    Ditz, when you get up every morning you should say over and over again a thousand times"Mickey knows nothing, Mickey knows nothing, Mickey knows nothing." Then pat your belly and spin around 3 times. That will make all your dreams will come true.

    How the hell was I or anyone else supposed to know about parlay cards and dead numbers when we weren't around it? I wasn't a sports bettor. I hung out in other areas of the casino. Did they send out flyers? "Extra! Extra! AP's everywhere read all about it!"

    I know over 100 machine plays. How many do you know? You mean you don't know any? WTF? How retarded are you? It's right in front of your eyes. You've been walking right by those machines for 40 years? And you didn't know? Damn, you are one dumb ass motherfucker. (Do you see how easy that game is to play, ditz?)

    Spank and Capt. Jack are sharp enough to know machine plays. You ain't.

    Now, I do recall following a thread on WOV about half point parlay cards several years ago. I think those guys were working dead numbers too. Their successes were documented in real time. IIRC, they wound up having a hell of a time getting the books to take the bets. They wound up having to make small bets per card and spreading them around all over Vegas. Axel could probably shed some light on it.

    You won't interact with Axel anymore (who has done absolutely nothing to cause you to disrespect him). Why? It's because axel knows to much about sports betting angles. You don't like that. His questions are to tough for you to answer. So you took the chickenshit way out and said you will ignore him. BOC! BOC! BOC! BOCOCK!!!

    For the record, did you, the great Robert Dietz, think up playing dead numbers on parlay cards all by yourself? Are you challenging Fezzik on that issue? Are you saying you invented the parlay card/dead number thing without any information from anyone else. Totally on your own?

    You got something else wrong in your post. You said Vaccaro and Lupo weren't interested in GWAE. I wasn't talking about GWAE. I was talking about VSIN.

    I gave you the information to contact GWAE. You were on your own from there to make arrangements. So don't tell me to make any fucking arrangements for you, numskull. Make your own fucking arrangements. What an idiot.

    Ditz, you probably don't know it but GWAE will be shutting down in a few months. It's become harder and harder for them to find guests. It's evident by to many "Mailbag" shows of late. They've ran through everyone who is anyone in the gambling world. Thats why it's strange to me that they didn't get back to you. With them being hard up for guests I would think you would be a shoe in. You must not have made a very good impression on Munchkin.

    I've done 5 episodes on GWAE. I'm willing to do one more before they shut down. So, Ditz, go ahead, contact them and set it up for me. ROTFLMAO!!
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 04-04-2023 at 06:51 AM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #484
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    For example, I can drag documentation of my handicapping record onto any show and read straight from it, or quote from something like Who's Who in Sports Gambling, where people were actually vetted. Or dig up old Wise Guys contest records to present.
    You don't have to wait to do it on a podcast. You can do it right here in real time. But you've been asked for years to do it and won't.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  5. #485
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    For example, I can drag documentation of my handicapping record onto any show and read straight from it, or quote from something like Who's Who in Sports Gambling, where people were actually vetted. Or dig up old Wise Guys contest records to present.
    You don't have to wait to do it on a podcast. You can do it right here in real time. But you've been asked for years to do it and won't.

    Nobody who knows what they're doing could have missed the frozen numbers, staggered in time angle. Did I think it up by myself? Well, yes. I didn't need anybody to point it out. The same way that when I look at the sky, I see blue, and I assume everyone else sees blue, too. I don't have to be told to see blue.

    Mickey, this is one of those moments when I can't believe how dense you are, and I wonder about your alleged machine exploits, which I have no expertise to judge. The problem isn't so much your sports betting savvy; you never claimed to be a sports betting expert. The problem is that you don't know how to assign reality to what you hear. You just assume things and think you're making some kind of valid, reasonable judgements, and you don't know anything.

    You really have no clue. And you don't know you have no clue. Now I have no idea if anything you say outside of a very narrow machine math has any credibility. I always assumed it did, but that may have been a massive error on my part. I gave you some kind of halo effect credit for knowing what you were talking about, and evidently it's not at all justified.

    If you think I don't know what I'm talking about, show up in LV with a list of questions and hire a videographer. Fire them at me and I'll answer on the spot extemporaneously. Embarrass me. Demonstrate I'm not correct. Get it on video. Then slap it on Youtube for the world to see.

    Or else hide in Montana and bullshit about sports betting for the next decade.

  6. #486
    It is quite clear that Redietz has never really been a sport-bettor. He has just read a ton of vegas shit in books and created his own accounts of being there. Written down names of people we can't contact. References printed materials we can't reference. (While constantly ridiculing anything online)

    He ridiculed EV when every sharp bettor knows better. He ridicules everyone. It has become beyond clear that he is a big fucking phoney. He is never going to get on GWAE or anything like that because to be put on the spot would mean his lies are clear. No, he sits at his chair and lashes out when people talk about things over his head and beyond the bullshit stories he picked up reading in the library.

    He is a pathetic tout. Even the quintessential picture with the fancy car is meh. The $500 overdue tax bill shows his financial situation. How else could you be so into sports betting yet know so little about contemporary sportsbetting?

    Again it is beyond clear. The way he puts himself forth, the condescension, these are all hallmarks of a faker. Those tell-tale signs. That is what touts do.

    Mickey, stop arguing with this fool.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  7. #487
    What is "East Coast Mafia" ? Is this a new boy band? WTF is Redietz even going on about.

    For what it is worth, I heard of the parlay angle at some point in my life. Paper tickets printed once earlier in the week that have weak lines which then become apparent.

    Geez, reading his last post - Classic bullshitter. Keeps going on and on trying beyond hard to discredit Mickey but having nothing to work with. That is the goto tactic for the guilty being accused.

    People, it is official. Redietz has been exposed.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  8. #488
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    It is quite clear that Redietz has never really been a sport-bettor. He has just read a ton of vegas shit in books and created his own accounts of being there. Written down names of people we can't contact. References printed materials we can't reference. (While constantly ridiculing anything online)

    He ridiculed EV when every sharp bettor knows better. He ridicules everyone. It has become beyond clear that he is a big fucking phoney. He is never going to get on GWAE or anything like that because to be put on the spot would mean his lies are clear. No, he sits at his chair and lashes out when people talk about things over his head and beyond the bullshit stories he picked up reading in the library.

    He is a pathetic tout. Even the quintessential picture with the fancy car is meh. The $500 overdue tax bill shows his financial situation. How else could you be so into sports betting yet know so little about contemporary sportsbetting?

    Again it is beyond clear. The way he puts himself forth, the condescension, these are all hallmarks of a faker. Those tell-tale signs. That is what touts do.

    Mickey, stop arguing with this fool.
    Yeah, that would explain the offering to answer unknown questions extemporaneously. Makes perfect sense. Explains the Who's Who in Sports Gambling inclusion. Explains being the only person in the history of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" to win back-to-back college football profit titles and three in five years. Mickey posted one of those years here in the retro Road Trip thread. Thanks, mickey.

    Tell you what, account, why don't you come to Las Vegas and interview me. Hell, I'll pay for the videographer. Come on down, baby! It'll be a blast. I'll even pick up your hotel tab.

    You want April, July, or another time in the next couple of months?

    You know what? We could even do it like a job interview. Mickey, account, and a neutral party, maybe kewlJ, sitting in three chairs, asking me questions with no prep on my part. We could recruit Todd, hell, somebody recruit Singer. It'll be a grand old time.

    Exciting stuff.

    Can't wait to hear account's response. Email me, account.

    IntegritySports@aol.com. Don't be shy.
    Last edited by redietz; 04-04-2023 at 08:51 AM.

  9. #489
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    It is quite clear that Redietz has never really been a sport-bettor. He has just read a ton of vegas shit in books and created his own accounts of being there. Written down names of people we can't contact. References printed materials we can't reference. (While constantly ridiculing anything online)

    He ridiculed EV when every sharp bettor knows better. He ridicules everyone. It has become beyond clear that he is a big fucking phoney. He is never going to get on GWAE or anything like that because to be put on the spot would mean his lies are clear. No, he sits at his chair and lashes out when people talk about things over his head and beyond the bullshit stories he picked up reading in the library.

    He is a pathetic tout. Even the quintessential picture with the fancy car is meh. The $500 overdue tax bill shows his financial situation. How else could you be so into sports betting yet know so little about contemporary sportsbetting?

    Again it is beyond clear. The way he puts himself forth, the condescension, these are all hallmarks of a faker. Those tell-tale signs. That is what touts do.

    Mickey, stop arguing with this fool.
    Yeah, that would explain the offering to answer unknown questions extemporaneously. Makes perfect sense. Explains the Who's Who in Sports Gambling inclusion. Explains being the only person in the history of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" to win back-to-back college football profit titles and three in five years. Mickey posted one of those years here in the retro Road Trip thread. Thanks, mickey.

    Tell you what, account, why don't you come to Las Vegas and interview me. Hell, I'll pay for the videographer. Come on down, baby! It'll be a blast. I'll even pick up your hotel tab.

    You want April, July, or another time in the next couple of months?

    You know what? We could even do it like a job interview. Mickey, account, and a neutral party, maybe kewlJ, sitting in three chairs, asking me questions with no prep on my part. We could recruit Todd, hell, somebody recruit Singer. It'll be a grand old time.

    Exciting stuff.

    Can't wait to hear account's response. Email me, account.

    IntegritySports@aol.com. Don't be shy.
    More bluffing bullshit. I might do it except I have no reason to want to dox myself. Outside of that I'd call your bullshit bluff and let you do a singer on us. None of this shit you quote overcomes the other evidence taken as a whole. It is a story.

    I assume you'd do this via recorded phone interview?
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  10. #490
    He acts as if I want to even go to vegas. Last time bellagio have me 3 nights fountain view but I had rooms otherwise so I only used room the last night. APs in here wont be impressed but lol "redietz's world" (tm)
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  11. #491
    Not taking sides but I can tell you this was being done in the early to mid 80’s in PA with local wannabe books running cards. It didn’t take a genius to see lines that were way off later in the week due to injuries, weather or just mistakes.

    It was a different world back then in regards to information being available and these cards were printed late Sunday or early Monday to get them out to the runners who sold them at every office, factory or other workplace in those days. So every week there were lines that were off 2-3 points by Saturday when the cards had to be turned in. Sometimes even more if a major injury was reported.

    You couldn’t bet much on them and still needed to be a minimum of 3 or 4 teams so I’m not sure we had much of an advantage but saying ANYONE was the first to figure this out is crazy. It wasn’t hard to see or figure out.

    I could write a post as long as RED’s on these cards but just wanted to post this after reading this debate. Especially about actually getting paid when you hit something decent, many people behind the scenes just disappeared when some sap hit a 10 team parlay. Leaving the seller to say “sorry”.

  12. #492
    That's what I mean, Boz. Every couple of years, someone comes out of the woodwork and claims they invented the wheel. It's hilarious. Like coming up with a way to attack these things required a PhD (which my late wife had two of, by the way). Every sports bettor with a brain attacked them.

    The other comparable nonsense was when certain teasers were labeled "Wong teasers." And Wong's not even the guy's name, but I guess he was shooting for Asian intellectual stereotyping or something. Who the hell decided they were "Wong teasers?" Wong!?!

    The teaser strategy pre-dated Wong by decades. If you read Larry Merchant's "National Football Lottery" -- circa 1972 -- it's clear he's emphasizing certain kinds of teasers as opposed to others. "Wong," in his infinite wisdom, basically outed the play and the consequences were that teaser odds changed for the worse.

    Just as with Fezzik. Why even blather on about the frozen line, staggered in time thing? All you do is get every civilian to try it, which means more games will be made unavailable on the parlay cards late in the week. He did no one any favors except the books.

    I feel badly that account and mickey crimm don't have the courage of their convictions. All I can do is make myself available to answer questions I'm unprepared for, and give them the opportunity to make an ass out of me on video. And I'll pay for account's room!

    Boz, any suggestions? Should I throw in a hooker or something to sweeten the deal for them? Or maybe an ice cream cone for account?

    FYI -- The Gangster Chronicles is an IHeartRadio series being helmed by George Anastasia, who is a journalist with absolutely impeccable credentials. I am honored to be involved at any level with the series.
    Last edited by redietz; 04-04-2023 at 11:34 AM.

  13. #493
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    It's a toss between Rob and Alex W, the 2 sharps that I'd like to hear on GWAE. Comrade is way down on the list
    I have been offered, but I wasn't interested, I never have been. I actually used to be angry there was even such a show on the air. The people who started the show had other things they wanted to sell and promote, I just wanted to beat the casinos.

    Never say never, but at this time I haven't any interest. I'm not much for giving out current information, therefore I would be only talking about past plays and situations. They say, "Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it". As an advantage player, that's what I'm hoping for, so it would be tricky for me to decide what to even talk about. I have only ever talked about a few plays publicly.

    Perhaps some podcast, someday, somewhere when the benefit outweighs my perception of the disadvantages. Nowadays, there's no doubt the disadvantages are negligible, but I still have to live with my conscious knowing I did something that I have been against from the very beginning. Hmmm... If you can't beat 'em…join 'em. How much for the rights to the podcast? I'm suddenly interested.

  14. #494
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Then what the hell do you APs do? Sit and stare at things and hope some simple math saves the day? I'm telling you this is one of the most OBVIOUS, EASY, and UBIQUITOUS angles in sports betting. And it has been since parlay cards were invented. If people like you, Witteles, kewlJ, Seed, Axelwolf never did it, it would suggest you were all, to be politically incorrect, a bit on the tard side.
    .
    You accused me of being lazy etc, but let me point out, I have told you and mentioned numerous times that I was betting the parlays back in the early 2000s and on and off since.

  15. #495
    Wasn't it reported on WoV in the last week that GWAE will be ending in the next couple months? Or at least Rickard and Bob stepping down as hosts. So if Redietz wants to get on or Axel decides "what the hell", you should get to it.

    My personal thoughts mirror Axelwolf's. I was asked twice by Munchkin if I has any interest, the first way back on Norm's blackjack forum, probably 2014 or so. I just saw or see no benefit. I wouldn't say anything specific about how I have been able to play one location, and that is the only thing that sets me apart from dozens of other card counters. I have shared some of these things on occasion on forums, but I set the narrative and decide what I want to say and when. I wouldn't want to be in a position where I was asked a question I wouldn't answer. I don't think that is fair to the show.

    Incredibly, since I was first asked there have been a number of card counters that have been on GWAE, and many of us have very similar histories, right down to staring out with very low limit play and building a bankroll. It is to the point now, that I am like, "oh they have another card counter on?"

  16. #496
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    You accused me of being lazy etc, but let me point out, I have told you and mentioned numerous times that I was betting the parlays back in the early 2000s and on and off since.
    Axelwolf, can I ask you a simple question? Do you believe Redietz has made a living involved with sports betting for the last 30-40 years as he has claimed?

    I do. There are some inconsistencies, but basically, on my knows what he is talking about vs just talking meter, redietz passes to my satisfaction. Plus, I don't know that anyone would carry on a charade for decades other than Ron Singer, who has some issues.

    Now if you don't believe it, and/or he doesn't pass your 'test', it is fine that you say so and challenge him.

    But I feel like you and mickey and a few others believes his basic claim, but are really giving him a hard time right now because of dislikes and ego.

    I mean comments like "You accused me of being lazy etc" or AccountinQuestion actually saying he finds redietz condescending, or mickey obviously having a chip on his shoulder after redietz stupid comment about social security and welfare, just makes me think you guys are just out to belittle him and discredit him, more so that that you actually dis-believe him. Just feels like egos come in to play. Maybe I am wrong.

  17. #497
    Seems to me that sports betting could be sort of an unwitting "trap" for fans of the game; let me explain.

    My buddy and I love NFL games; I don't bet, I just want to have an entertaining game.

    He in contrast bets and in doing so seems unable to enjoy the game as it is played out, as he now is financially invested in only one outcome.

    Over time he has pretty much stopped wanting to watch the games, and instead he spends time pouring over info, betting, and tracking his myriad bets.

    Fun if you enjoy it I suppose, but not my cuppa.
    What, Me Worry?

  18. #498
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    You accused me of being lazy etc, but let me point out, I have told you and mentioned numerous times that I was betting the parlays back in the early 2000s and on and off since.
    Axelwolf, can I ask you a simple question? Do you believe Redietz has made a living involved with sports betting for the last 30-40 years as he has claimed?

    I do. There are some inconsistencies, but basically, on my knows what he is talking about vs just talking meter, redietz passes to my satisfaction. Plus, I don't know that anyone would carry on a charade for decades other than Ron Singer, who has some issues.

    Now if you don't believe it, and/or he doesn't pass your 'test', it is fine that you say so and challenge him.

    But I feel like you and mickey and a few others believes his basic claim, but are really giving him a hard time right now because of dislikes and ego.

    I mean comments like "You accused me of being lazy etc" or AccountinQuestion actually saying he finds redietz condescending, or mickey obviously having a chip on his shoulder after redietz stupid comment about social security and welfare, just makes me think you guys are just out to belittle him and discredit him, more so that that you actually dis-believe him. Just feels like egos come in to play. Maybe I am wrong.
    KJ, give up on the Social Security argument. It's not true. Never has been true. Never will be true. After all the shit I've been called on this forum you think the SS thing bothers me? Get a fucking clue, dude. What IS true is your ability to conjure up any kind of unadulterated bullshit to fit your false narratives.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 04-04-2023 at 03:48 PM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  19. #499
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    That's what I mean, Boz. Every couple of years, someone comes out of the woodwork and claims they invented the wheel. It's hilarious. Like coming up with a way to attack these things required a PhD (which my late wife had two of, by the way). Every sports bettor with a brain attacked them.

    The other comparable nonsense was when certain teasers were labeled "Wong teasers." And Wong's not even the guy's name, but I guess he was shooting for Asian intellectual stereotyping or something. Who the hell decided they were "Wong teasers?" Wong!?!

    The teaser strategy pre-dated Wong by decades. If you read Larry Merchant's "National Football Lottery" -- circa 1972 -- it's clear he's emphasizing certain kinds of teasers as opposed to others. "Wong," in his infinite wisdom, basically outed the play and the consequences were that teaser odds changed for the worse.

    Just as with Fezzik. Why even blather on about the frozen line, staggered in time thing? All you do is get every civilian to try it, which means more games will be made unavailable on the parlay cards late in the week. He did no one any favors except the books.

    I feel badly that account and mickey crimm don't have the courage of their convictions. All I can do is make myself available to answer questions I'm unprepared for, and give them the opportunity to make an ass out of me on video. And I'll pay for account's room!

    Boz, any suggestions? Should I throw in a hooker or something to sweeten the deal for them? Or maybe an ice cream cone for account?

    FYI -- The Gangster Chronicles is an IHeartRadio series being helmed by George Anastasia, who is a journalist with absolutely impeccable credentials. I am honored to be involved at any level with the series.
    I take Boz' word for it. You, on the other hand, have no credibility. You've ruined your reputation here. Sad. So when you say something is true no one can take your word for it.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  20. #500
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    It is quite clear that Redietz has never really been a sport-bettor. He has just read a ton of vegas shit in books and created his own accounts of being there. Written down names of people we can't contact. References printed materials we can't reference. (While constantly ridiculing anything online)

    He ridiculed EV when every sharp bettor knows better. He ridicules everyone. It has become beyond clear that he is a big fucking phoney. He is never going to get on GWAE or anything like that because to be put on the spot would mean his lies are clear. No, he sits at his chair and lashes out when people talk about things over his head and beyond the bullshit stories he picked up reading in the library.

    He is a pathetic tout. Even the quintessential picture with the fancy car is meh. The $500 overdue tax bill shows his financial situation. How else could you be so into sports betting yet know so little about contemporary sportsbetting?

    Again it is beyond clear. The way he puts himself forth, the condescension, these are all hallmarks of a faker. Those tell-tale signs. That is what touts do.

    Mickey, stop arguing with this fool.
    Yeah, that would explain the offering to answer unknown questions extemporaneously. Makes perfect sense. Explains the Who's Who in Sports Gambling inclusion. Explains being the only person in the history of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" to win back-to-back college football profit titles and three in five years. Mickey posted one of those years here in the retro Road Trip thread. Thanks, mickey.

    Tell you what, account, why don't you come to Las Vegas and interview me. Hell, I'll pay for the videographer. Come on down, baby! It'll be a blast. I'll even pick up your hotel tab.

    You want April, July, or another time in the next couple of months?

    You know what? We could even do it like a job interview. Mickey, account, and a neutral party, maybe kewlJ, sitting in three chairs, asking me questions with no prep on my part. We could recruit Todd, hell, somebody recruit Singer. It'll be a grand old time.

    Exciting stuff.

    Can't wait to hear account's response. Email me, account.

    IntegritySports@aol.com. Don't be shy.

    So you want to answer questions formulated by people that are not professional sports bettors? What's up with that? How about you field questions by heavy hitters like Fezzik, Spanky and Capt. Jack Andrews? Would you still do the interview if they were sitting in the three chairs?

    Maybe I can arrange it. Just say the word.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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