Professional Sportsbetting

[Treeshade]

10k prize money divided by 30k entries = how much value?

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How much value is there, from an anthropological perspective, in having non-material resources (reputation, respect, self-perception) .

That pride again something you fail to realize has been your demise. Once we start talking about details never posted online I wonder how you will react?

Your a pretty slick dude I will say that up front. Hardly much of a trail other then your idiot post about where you live. No doubt a trap to be used to rat on someone or play victim.

Sweet dreams rat boy get that afternoon nap in so you have the energy later to post about all your mob associates who will blow up peoples cars for you lmao fucking loon

[Treeshade]

Evenbob Dietz feels inferior because, well, he IS inferior when it comes to gambling. Has to try to drag everyone down to his level.

While I still believe Redietz has achieved success in the sports gambling world for many decades, as soon as someone engages in this kind of pissing contest, "I am better than you", "I bet more than you" (in this case axelwolf) I have won more than so and so, it reveals an insecurity about that person.

Same thing I have said to Mdawg numerous times. You can NOT build yourself up, nor make your claims more credible by trying to tear down someone else and what they share or claim. It just doesn't work that way.

What leads you to believe he has achieved any type of success? Point me to the evidence that convinced you? Was it his one small home that he owes money on ? Often people who have made a lot of money in gambling ( and business) one of the first things they do is buy real estate because of the tax benefits of doing so. It’s been that way forever. This guy can’t even pay his property tax

[Treeshade]

I suggest sticking to other topics. Maybe poker or Piggy Banking or something.

Yes, I started out with that one machine play, Piggy Bankin'. And it was my first time doing an empirical study of a game. But I've done hundreds since. I take a pic of every new exploitable game that hits the casinos. Here is the current crop of games out there I've done empirical studies on to find the vulnerabilities. Some of the games are similar but for the most part they have their own configurations so have to be analyzed independently. It takes some knowledge and experience to analyze such a wide array of games.

Dietz, you won't recognize any of these games. But others will. Games like these have been sitting right there for years while you walked past them on your way to the book. You've literally walked right past millions of dollars to be made in your long one trick pony gambling career. You are 99% ignorant of what goes on in casinos.

I only see part of one par sheet mick.
Let’s do a dump of those next lol

[kewlJ]

What leads you to believe he has achieved any type of success? Point me to the evidence that convinced you? Was it his one small home that he owes money on ? Often people who have made a lot of money in gambling ( and business) one of the first things they do is buy real estate because of the tax benefits of doing so. It’s been that way forever. This guy can’t even pay his property tax

Well first, his house and that he owed property tax last year don't enter into it for me. There are many people that have lots of money, or make lots of money that chose to live somewhat modestly. Last I hear mickeycrimm had an apartment somewhere in Montana. He travels a lot and sounds like he is rarely there, but it doesn't sound like he lives high on the hog. So, back to redietz. He posted his address. I was never quite sure why, but he had to know someone like coach belly would look it up. I am surprised it took as long as it did. So redietz wasn't trying to hide anything. It was just him and his wife and now just him and I assume they and now he enjoys living in that rural setting and that house is adequate for his needs. He says he travels a lot, to Vegas 100 days a year and I have no reason to doubt that. I just don't see where the house is an issue.

Property taxes: Have you asked him about it? He has an explanation, that is is disputing the assessment and amount owed. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me, because you could still pay the amount due and not accrue interest and penalties while disputing it. But that is his business. He has adequate income from Social Security, so he could afford to pay that $500 property tax. So he must not have wanted to. And the dispute works. Again, not the way I would handle it, but to each his own. These things really have no bearing on if he has been somewhat successful as a sport bettor.

I didn't say "he made a lot of money" gambling. I have no idea. I think he has probably made a decent living. His sports betting knowledge just rings true to me. Especially the old days before all this online sports wagering. I am not an expert and may be wrong, but it just rings true to me. I give the benefit of doubt until proven otherwise. And I have no reason to try to prove otherwise about redietz. he isn't hurting anyone, like I believe there was the potential with Singer and Mdawg.

So that is where I am. I reserve the right to change my opinion if/when new information becomes available. But I have no reason to attack him and try to discredit him and pick him apart because he is wrong about EV. Or is sometime arrogant.

[MaxPen]

What leads you to believe he has achieved any type of success? Point me to the evidence that convinced you? Was it his one small home that he owes money on ? Often people who have made a lot of money in gambling ( and business) one of the first things they do is buy real estate because of the tax benefits of doing so. It’s been that way forever. This guy can’t even pay his property tax

Well first, his house and that he owed property tax last year don't enter into it for me. There are many people that have lots of money, or make lots of money that chose to live somewhat modestly. Last I hear mickeycrimm had an apartment somewhere in Montana. He travels a lot and sounds like he is rarely there, but it doesn't sound like he lives high on the hog. So, back to redietz. He posted his address. I was never quite sure why, but he had to know someone like coach belly would look it up. I am surprised it took as long as it did. So redietz wasn't trying to hide anything. It was just him and his wife and now just him and I assume they and now he enjoys living in that rural setting and that house is adequate for his needs. He says he travels a lot, to Vegas 100 days a year and I have no reason to doubt that. I just don't see where the house is an issue.

Property taxes: Have you asked him about it? He has an explanation, that is is disputing the assessment and amount owed. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me, because you could still pay the amount due and not accrue interest and penalties while disputing it. But that is his business. He has adequate income from Social Security, so he could afford to pay that $500 property tax. So he must not have wanted to. And the dispute works. Again, not the way I would handle it, but to each his own. These things really have no bearing on if he has been somewhat successful as a sport bettor.

I didn't say "he made a lot of money" gambling. I have no idea. I think he has probably made a decent living. His sports betting knowledge just rings true to me. Especially the old days before all this online sports wagering. I am not an expert and may be wrong, but it just rings true to me. I give the benefit of doubt until proven otherwise. And I have no reason to try to prove otherwise about redietz. he isn't hurting anyone, like I believe there was the potential with Singer and Mdawg.

So that is where I am. I reserve the right to change my opinion if/when new information becomes available. But I have no reason to attack him and try to discredit him and pick him apart because he is wrong about EV. Or is sometime arrogant.

Have you not paid the tunnel boss tolls and taxes for the week or something?

[Treeshade]

What leads you to believe he has achieved any type of success? Point me to the evidence that convinced you? Was it his one small home that he owes money on ? Often people who have made a lot of money in gambling ( and business) one of the first things they do is buy real estate because of the tax benefits of doing so. It’s been that way forever. This guy can’t even pay his property tax

Well first, his house and that he owed property tax last year don't enter into it for me. There are many people that have lots of money, or make lots of money that chose to live somewhat modestly. Last I hear mickeycrimm had an apartment somewhere in Montana. He travels a lot and sounds like he is rarely there, but it doesn't sound like he lives high on the hog. So, back to redietz. He posted his address. I was never quite sure why, but he had to know someone like coach belly would look it up. I am surprised it took as long as it did. So redietz wasn't trying to hide anything. It was just him and his wife and now just him and I assume they and now he enjoys living in that rural setting and that house is adequate for his needs. He says he travels a lot, to Vegas 100 days a year and I have no reason to doubt that. I just don't see where the house is an issue.

Property taxes: Have you asked him about it? He has an explanation, that is is disputing the assessment and amount owed. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me, because you could still pay the amount due and not accrue interest and penalties while disputing it. But that is his business. He has adequate income from Social Security, so he could afford to pay that $500 property tax. So he must not have wanted to. And the dispute works. Again, not the way I would handle it, but to each his own. These things really have no bearing on if he has been somewhat successful as a sport bettor.

I didn't say "he made a lot of money" gambling. I have no idea. I think he has probably made a decent living. His sports betting knowledge just rings true to me. Especially the old days before all this online sports wagering. I am not an expert and may be wrong, but it just rings true to me. I give the benefit of doubt until proven otherwise. And I have no reason to try to prove otherwise about redietz. he isn't hurting anyone, like I believe there was the potential with Singer and Mdawg.

So that is where I am. I reserve the right to change my opinion if/when new information becomes available. But I have no reason to attack him and try to discredit him and pick him apart because he is wrong about EV. Or is sometime arrogant.

So what’s your stance on him suggesting reporting post to the IRS , FBI, and homeland security? Before this post it never dawned on me that this guy was a rat fuck bastard. Only people with a rat mindset think along those lines. Not even you think this way. You even resorted to posting how you would deal with someone with a Gun before telling on them. I troll you for that but it clearly shows you are not a rat fuck.

All rat’s should be eliminated from our community. It’s them that keep the data base companies in business. I’m getting ready to post about my year long revenge that just concluded after a rat fuck flipped my team on its head. These guys do a lot of damage for basically nothing. They don’t even get the satisfaction of knowing how much damage they do. Nor do the get paid for it. In my case it only served to make us stronger more resilient, and to take bigger risk. I’m well established so I can pivot and fund my guys when shit happens, but for a small guy just starting out these rats end their careers before they start.

[mickeycrimm]

I click on the pictures to zoom in. Literally first pic is labeled singer handpay. Lololol

Hobo's Dream.....RIP

Old habits die hard. It's important to have a little something for inspiration when you're bedding down under a different overpass every night.

lol. Where would you put the odds that Maxpussy didn’t download the Singer jackpot pic to his computer?

[accountinquestion]

Have you not paid the tunnel boss tolls and taxes for the week or something?

Fool - he is clearly angling for a hall pass from the LV mob.
The tint of Kewl's nose matches those monk shoes.


If Mickey was smart he'd be kissing Redietz ass too.

[AxelWolf]

Axelwolf, you're asking the wrong questions, as per usual.

How much value is there in winning an Olympic medal? Technically, none.

How many material resources do you have versus my co-host? The answer is far less.

How much value is there, from an anthropological perspective, in having non-material resources (reputation, respect, self-perception) versus purely material?

How much value is there for demonstration of a skill that can be used across various enterprises?

More to your point, my co-host ran betting syndicates in Las Vegas where 50K on up per game was wagered. My co-host ran the same syndicate that recruited Fezzik years later. So the idea that my co-host has no skin in the game due to being in a contest is nonsensical.

Typical Axelwolf narrow-mindededness, blindness and assumptions.

And, finally, I must mention this. You don't even do math correctly before blathering. The prize pool is 200K. At least do the math semi-correctly. That's what "APs" are supposed to be good at.

Oh, wait, I guess you read it too fast. Skimmed it, maybe? Tells you a lot about how some "APs" function. Don't read carefully. Don't do the math carefully. Just blather.

To put things in perspective, my co-host wagered more in a week than Axelwolf did in a year. But Axelwolf is giving a lecture on the value of time. All while explaining how something called "The 200K Mega-Contest" has 10K in prizes. I hope nobody here is partnered with this dude.

Resources for what for what?

My math isn't wrong the details are unknown to me as I don't know exactly what contest he was in, there are multiple contests and lots of talk about various contests. I assumed wrong. Of course, I skimmed... your co-host contest rankings have zero effect on my life so I don't care to pay all that much attention. I don't even know who you are talking about. Bragging rights for who? you or him? When it comes to certain sports guys, they desperately need those bragging rights to get their tout on and make money from everything but actually betting sports for themselves.

"He ran betting syndicates in Las Vegas where 50K on up per game was wagered." What does that even mean? What kind of sports syndicate, a tout service syndicate? What's the difference between a syndicate and a team? Was it his syndicate, was it his money, how much was his cut per year in profit?

"wagered more in a week than Axelwolf did in a year." Are you talking about sports? If so, I would hope so, I'm not a pro sports bettor. How much did he wager in that week? How much did YOU wager for yourself this year? I did hit 11 out of 11 the first few weeks of NFL, I posted it somewhere.

I'm not even sure why we were talking about some guy you know I'm not sure why I'm talking about it, cuz I don't even know what guy you're talking about. What's his name?

If you don't know what you're talking about, why comment at all? And you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I don't get it. Why bother to type when you have no blessed idea about anything you're typing?

You obviously understood what I was getting at. I misstated the monetary value of the contest, big deal. My point was made and you answered. In short, it's not about the money, it's about padding one's resume and bragging rights. I don't know if it's a good brag or not. With enough entries and decades of entering contests, I would expect some good runs simply due to luck and variance. I won and placed 2nd(should have been first but my tiebreaker got messed up) in the only 2 football contests I ever entered. Perhaps I'm a football guru and don't know it.

[MisterV]

I’m getting ready to post about my year long revenge that just concluded after a rat fuck flipped my team on its head.

What "team?"

I figured you only herded cats.

[Treeshade]

I’m getting ready to post about my year long revenge that just concluded after a rat fuck flipped my team on its head.

What "team?"

I figured you only herded cats.

Let’s get serious V what’s your motivation on these Boards ? What kind of person post for years on gambling forums but states he’s not an AP. There’s not really one thing you have ever posted online that is useful.

Nothing Mdawg post, Red or even Kew irk me more then what you post. I picture you as one of those guys with those punchable faces. Someone that if you hit flush on the nose resulting in a complete break would bring immense joy. You embody the type of person I hate the most and believe are the cancer of our society. A smug semi educated pot head who spends his time looking down on the world. Telling people they are try Hard’s getting upset when people post about there accomplishments. I real fucking loser

I mean that with all my heart and soul. I don’t like you at all and think you may actually be the worst fucking guy on all these forums.

[AxelWolf]

you may actually be the worst fucking guy on all these forums.

I will disagree so it sounds like a poll is in order. Now wouldn't that be fun?

[AxelWolf]

Does anyone here know who Red's Co-Host is? And what are they Co-hosting?

[accountinquestion]

I like Kewl. If he hadn't become tired of his online low limit bj peesona he'd still be churning out bj advice. Thankfully evenbob didn't stick around. Worst guy is either redietz or singer. They both look to be nasty people underneath it all. Oh fuck I forgot seedvalue as easy #1. Contention is for #2.

[AxelWolf]

I like Kewl. If he hadn't become tired of his online low limit bj peesona he'd still be churning out bj advice. Thankfully evenbob didn't stick around. Worst guy is either redietz or singer. They both look to be nasty people underneath it all. Oh fuck I forgot seedvalue as easy #1. Contention is for #2.

Stop being lazy and start a poll.

[1Hit1der]

I mean that with all my heart and soul. I don’t like you at all and think you may actually be the worst fucking guy on all these forums.

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[MisterV]

I real fucking loser. I mean that with all my heart and soul.

On this we can agree, thimble-dick: you really ARE a "fucking loser" as you so gracefully admitted.

Bwa ha ha ha, nice Freudian slip, fuckwit.

Oh, btw...I'm sure that you couldn't punch your way out of a wet paper bag, tough guy; all mouth and no fist.

[mickeycrimm]

Does anyone here know who Red's Co-Host is? And what are they Co-hosting?

The co-host is the guy in this "press release"below referred to as a "special guest" at the "Johnson City Men's Book Club Meeting" on the book by Billy Walters. Redietz posted the "press release" over on Gambling Forums. It's the only site you can find this "press release." Red said the press was there but there is no evidence of it or the "press release" online except Red posting it on Gambling Forums.

Subsequent to the book club meeting red posted here at VCT that the NFL strategy Walter's published in the book was a losing strategy. Walter's book was the most anticipated book in the history of sports betting. And he is supposedly accused at this Johnson City Book Club meeting of publishing a false strategy. Don't you think that would be a big story in the sports betting world? Yet all we are hearing is crickets.

Red planted the "press release" over on Gambling Forums because he knew someone from VCT would find it. Here it is:

"The Johnson City Men's Book Club, helmed by retired ETSU political science professor Ken Mijeski, will discuss Gambler: Secrets from a Life at Risk by Billy Walters at the Friday, October 27 meeting.

Bob Dietz, who worked for Mr. Walters during the 2002 football season, will facilitate the discussion. Bob, who lives in Johnson City, spent 20+ college football seasons in Las Vegas as a professional handicapper. A special guest, who headed a high stakes sports gambling cartel in Las Vegas concurrent with Mr. Walters' famous "Computer Group," will also be in attendance.

The meeting, which is open to the public, begins at 3:30 PM in the lounge area of The Italian Pizza Pub at 807 W. Walnut Street in Johnson City."

The "co-host's" name would have been known at the "book club meeting" with the press there. And his name would certainly be publicly known in the football contest. So why won't redietz say his name here? Maybe because the guy is fictitious.

[redietz]

Does anyone here know who Red's Co-Host is? And what are they Co-hosting?

The co-host is the guy in this "press release"below referred to as a "special guest" at the "Johnson City Men's Book Club Meeting" on the book by Billy Walters. Redietz posted the "press release" over on Gambling Forums. It's the only site you can find this "press release." Red said the press was there but there is no evidence of it or the "press release" online except Red posting it on Gambling Forums.

Subsequent to the book club meeting red posted here at VCT that the NFL strategy Walter's published in the book was a losing strategy. Walter's book was the most anticipated book in the history of sports betting. And he is supposedly accused at this Johnson City Book Club meeting of publishing a false strategy. Don't you think that would be a big story in the sports betting world? Yet all we are hearing is crickets.

Red planted the "press release" over on Gambling Forums because he knew someone from VCT would find it. Here it is:

"The Johnson City Men's Book Club, helmed by retired ETSU political science professor Ken Mijeski, will discuss Gambler: Secrets from a Life at Risk by Billy Walters at the Friday, October 27 meeting.

Bob Dietz, who worked for Mr. Walters during the 2002 football season, will facilitate the discussion. Bob, who lives in Johnson City, spent 20+ college football seasons in Las Vegas as a professional handicapper. A special guest, who headed a high stakes sports gambling cartel in Las Vegas concurrent with Mr. Walters' famous "Computer Group," will also be in attendance.

The meeting, which is open to the public, begins at 3:30 PM in the lounge area of The Italian Pizza Pub at 807 W. Walnut Street in Johnson City."

The "co-host's" name would have been known at the "book club meeting" with the press there. And his name would certainly be publicly known in the football contest. So why won't redietz say his name here? Maybe because the guy is fictitious.

That must be it.

[mickeycrimm]

Does anyone here know who Red's Co-Host is? And what are they Co-hosting?

The co-host is the guy in this "press release"below referred to as a "special guest" at the "Johnson City Men's Book Club Meeting" on the book by Billy Walters. Redietz posted the "press release" over on Gambling Forums. It's the only site you can find this "press release." Red said the press was there but there is no evidence of it or the "press release" online except Red posting it on Gambling Forums.

Subsequent to the book club meeting red posted here at VCT that the NFL strategy Walter's published in the book was a losing strategy. Walter's book was the most anticipated book in the history of sports betting. And he is supposedly accused at this Johnson City Book Club meeting of publishing a false strategy. Don't you think that would be a big story in the sports betting world? Yet all we are hearing is crickets.

Red planted the "press release" over on Gambling Forums because he knew someone from VCT would find it. Here it is:

"The Johnson City Men's Book Club, helmed by retired ETSU political science professor Ken Mijeski, will discuss Gambler: Secrets from a Life at Risk by Billy Walters at the Friday, October 27 meeting.

Bob Dietz, who worked for Mr. Walters during the 2002 football season, will facilitate the discussion. Bob, who lives in Johnson City, spent 20+ college football seasons in Las Vegas as a professional handicapper. A special guest, who headed a high stakes sports gambling cartel in Las Vegas concurrent with Mr. Walters' famous "Computer Group," will also be in attendance.

The meeting, which is open to the public, begins at 3:30 PM in the lounge area of The Italian Pizza Pub at 807 W. Walnut Street in Johnson City."

The "co-host's" name would have been known at the "book club meeting" with the press there. And his name would certainly be publicly known in the football contest. So why won't redietz say his name here? Maybe because the guy is fictitious.

That must be it.

Ditz, have you heard back from Mijeski on my questions about the "book club meeting?"