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[1Hit1der]

If there is a baby bro you can bet he's not working Vegas as a blackjack player. He's in the next stall over at the Excalibur working the trade that FraudJ taught him.....RIP

---> You Be the Anchor That Keeps My Feet on the Ground, I'll [KJ] Be the Wings That Keep Your Heart in the Clouds.

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P.S. I'll never know why the A=0 IQ has no anagrams, not even his 4,000th etc posts. Ha. Without passion, I guess.


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[Rob.Singer]

For the record I am not trying to drive redietz away. I take particular delight in reading redietz's post. I actually read all of them unlike both you and singer.

Nobody drives anyone else away V. They drive themselves away. Redietz harms no one with his odd style of participation. Even when I was solicited by broke & hungry contacts who said they either him or were directed to by him, it was of no consequence. Weaker victims might view that differently.

Kew OTOH, even though it's more than obvious that he'd be far better off not being involved with forums any longer, can't live without the accompanying deserved abuse which helps him create all those lies he tells. And in a failed life where there is absolutely zero hope for a better future given his chosen warped lifestlyle, the torture of never being able or strong enuf to just walk away is just too sweet for such a freak.

[MisterV]

For the record I am not trying to drive redietz away. I take particular delight in reading redietz's post. I actually read all of them unlike both you and singer.

Nobody drives anyone else away V.

Hey Robert, you got your posters mixed up, that ain't me.

FWIW I cut Redietz a lot of slack, same as I do KJ.

[AxelWolf]

I would even accept it if redietz had been found to be soliciting people for his picks. But over the years there has been exactly one person that has ever claimed that, Rob Singer with zero evidence. If Redietz had been doing that there would have been many, many more and Dan Druff would have discovered that and put a stop to it.
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I don't know how/if redietz recruited investors. I suspect if he was doing so it would be on a much bigger scale looking for bigger investors through some kind of network, shows, speaking engagements, tours, lists, Word of Mouth Etc. There's almost no chance a seasoned recruiter would be messing about with people on the forums, one would want to stay as far away from recruiting on the forums as possible, you don't want your investors anywhere near any type of gambling forums that might have some sharp guys on there.

Ultimately, Sports guys looking for investors or touting really want some big-ass investors who are for the most part clueless and can't be bothered with nonsense forums. I'm pretty sure recruiting sports investors is an art form refined over years of practice.

I'm sure it would be very eye-opening if someone did a deep-dive investigation into this type of stuff.

I can only compare it to the high-limit poker pros and they're big private games. They're trying to catch a few big donkeys with the s*** ton of cash.

[MDawg]

Here's what happened to someone I know:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...70/#post892114

[MDawg]

As far as this REDietz debate, there are people where nothing positive have been verified about them - all negative verifications (such as UNKewlJ), and then there are people where whatever has been verified about them is on the up and up (such as REDietz, and MDawg) and anything negative is speculative.

[1Hit1der]

For the record I am not trying to drive redietz away. I take particular delight in reading redietz's post. I actually read all of them unlike both you and singer.

Nobody drives anyone else away but (?) V.

Hey Robert, you got your posters mixed up, that ain't me.

FWIW I cut Redietz a lot of slack, same as I do KJ.

Who knows.

[kewlJ]

and then there are people where whatever has been verified about them is on the up and up (such as REDietz, and MDawg)

Absolutely NOTHING has been verified about you fool, except maybe that you took advantage of the Darkoz free roll and had a small winning session one day.

Now if you wanted to verify something....easy peasy.....just allow Wizard to say what he thinks.

[MisterV]

Now if you wanted to verify something....easy peasy.....just allow Wizard to say what he thinks.

Why on earth would the dawg have even thought of having the Wiz sign a NDA unless there was something he didn't want the Wiz to tell us about, and if so, what could it be?

I thought the whole idea was for the Wiz, deemed a reliable witness, to watch some typical baccarat play and then tell us how it went, and what he observed.

How can the Wiz be candid, and how can he be deemed a reliable witness, if he cannot say what he saw?

I tell ya, the Bard was right about these pesky, grasping, scheming, bullying shysters: “The first thing we do is, let’s kill all the lawyers.”

[kewlJ]

I don't know??? Are there some kind of troll points awarded on this forum, for trolling with the most detached from reality comments or something?

Singer, Mdawg and Maxpen (what a trio you have associated yourself with maxpen). If any one of these guys or anyone else (AinQ) really thought that I had misrepresented who I am, they would just say they didn't believe this or that, which is their right. The fact that they come up with such completely ludicrous, not to mention childish nonsense, all but confirms they know what/who I am and just can't handle it because they dislike me for reasons that have nothing to do with anything really.

Funniest is Singer. He thinks he is playing some phycological mind games, when I don't give a damn what he says. As if what some degenerate gambler old fool who's retirement plan is to live off his daughter has to say changes anything about my life or what I do.

[kewlJ]

Now if you wanted to verify something....easy peasy.....just allow Wizard to say what he thinks.

Why on earth would the dawg have even thought of having the Wiz sign a NDA unless there was something he didn't want the Wiz to tell us about, and if so, what could it be?

I thought the whole idea was for the Wiz, deemed a reliable witness, to watch some typical baccarat play and then tell us how it went, and what he observed.

How can the Wiz be candid, and how can he be deemed a reliable witness, if he cannot say what he saw?

I tell ya, the Bard was right about these pesky, grasping, scheming, bullying shysters: “The first thing we do is, let’s kill all the lawyers.”

Not only has Wizard not only NOT verified what Mdawg claims, but Shackleford on multiple instances called out things as false.

When Mdawg claimed he played a $100-$5000 spread at double deck on the strip, Wizard stepped up and called that unbelievable.

When Mdawg posted for 7 months claiming he had won half a million, Wizard stepped in and we got that "additionally, Wizard and I went over my records and I am about even".

When Mdawg claimed he won 50 straight blackjack hands in a row, Wizard stepped up and called that BS (in his own gee whiz, golly gee way).

And each time he has felt the need to say something about an Mdawg claim, Mike will say something like "I want to repeat that no system can overcome -EV". That is about as close as he can go with that NDA. And one time, he went even further and had to retract.

As for why the NDA in the first place? Mdawg knows damn well that if permitted Wizard would say something to the effect that on that day, Mike witnessed Mdawg play a small progression which resulted in a small win and winning the "free roll" type challenge with Darkoz. And that Mike would likely add something like, such play can in no way result in any kind of long term winning.

THAT is what the NDA is all about.

[Ray Finkle]

And who exactly has verified what you've done, kj?

[MDawg]

More 10x multiplier responses as

KJ keeps trying to manually rephrase the same old nervous essays over and over. Can you imagine how much time and angst that takes?

As far as this REDietz debate, there are people where nothing positive have been verified about them - all negative verifications (such as UNKewlJ), and then there are people where whatever has been verified about them is on the up and up (such as REDietz, and MDawg) and anything negative is speculative.

The nineteen most major UNKewl lies I can think of concern (1) his lie about Moses showing up at a condo he claimed he lived at, (2) a condo it turned out that he has no ownership in and does not even live in, (3) his faking his own death, (4) lying about ever having been robbed, (5) the nonsense about MGM execs showing up at his apartment on Halloween to give him player records on someone who isn't even MDawg, (6) the backrooming lawsuit, (7) the lie about being doxxed, or ever having his name placed in any casino database, (8) the rigged shuffler, (9) $50. free play for $100K win on a slot progressive, (10) $50K multi hand VP hit, (11) winning a car, (12) the lie about never asking anyone else to prove anything, (13) the lie about knowing attorney Nersesian well or at all, and having him on "speed dial," (14) lies that made it clear that he has never filed taxes as a professional gambler, (15) fabricated sports bets, (16) lies about that he has calculated his exact "expected win" over a decade and a half period, (17) lies about the "oily" surfboard, (18) lied about whether or not he was gay, (19) the lie about even having a dead "soul mate" which he recanted.

That rigged shuffler story, besides not making any sense, reaffirmed in my mind that this guy really doesn't play much table games, because I'd expect such nonsense from a recreational player, not a card counter.

And as usual, as he gets hemmed in, he is changing the story on some of these. Even renounced the existence of his "soul mate" claims he lied about him and his gay marriage too!

[MDawg]

I tend to publicly stay out of things when I don't exactly know what's going on. You should try it sometime. I may have expressed a paragraph or so on what MDawg's deal may be. Frankly I don't care.

At a minimum one person I know has met the guy and says he is a decent person. That gives him 10x more credibility than you have.

Most people reading this site just show up to watch the FraudJ trainwreck.

If I have to be honest here, at this point MDawg actually has way more credibility than you. He's actually met up with the wizard, played Baccarat at a medium level, and won.

People like Mission146, DarkOz , AxelWolf understood what it means.

[kewlJ]

And who exactly has verified what you've done, kj?

Nobody. It isn't a requirement that someone needs to verify claims on an anonymous forum.

Nor am I asking that of MDawg. It is he who is falsely claiming wizard has verified things that Mike most definately hasn't verified. All I said if this is important to MDawg, all he has to do is let Wizard say what he saw.

After all, Wizard was paid to witness that event. Shouldn't he be able to say what he saw?

[MDawg]

And who exactly has verified what you've done, kj?

Nobody. It isn't a requirement that someone needs to verify claims on an anonymous forum.

Nor am I asking that of MDawg.

In the past UNKewlJ has pushed RobSinger to provide proof to the Dandruff man,
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post105150

Now in answer to DanDruff's request for that same info, Rob is just going with a "No, I don't want to do that".

It just is not credible that Rob just had to tell someone, so badly, but yet refuses to provide any supporting documentation that would support his extraordinary claim.

and stated that failure to do so, failure to be willing to provide proof to someone like Dan Druff AFTER talking about whatever online, represents lack of credibility.

And as V pointed out,

KJ, enough.

It is YOU who is putting yourself out there and making the claim

so, just like what UNKewlJ said about RobSinger, that because he "had to tell someone," he should be willing to back up what he said, so should the UNKewl one follow his own demand and prove up what he has said.

Before that occasion when he kept pushing RobSinger to provide proof to DanDruff (and made a big deal out of that he didn't meet up with him / didn't provide any proof), UNKewlJ kept pushing for MDawg to play at a table in front of DanDruff or to at least meet him in Vegas, including for example here,

So MDawg posts this fantasy stuff on numerous forum and now both Wizard and Dan Druff have requested to meet him and observe his play. He refused wizard and will refuse Druff as well.

But it is very appropriate for these forum owners who provide the platform for this "adventure" to say "ENOUGH...show me".

to prove that he's for real, which was before I'd played in front of Wizard in the DarkOz Challenge.
UNKewlJ also loves to quote the DanDruff man with conviction, stating that Druff speaks with authority,

Dan Druff simply shares his expert opinion of what the truth is. he has been on these forums for a very long time and knows how to read people.

Basically, this hypocrite whatever he accuses others of, you may be assured that he's done himself first, and worse. In the end, he can't come up with any reason for his not wanting to prove up his backrooming lawsuit story, or anything else he has claimed (including the oily surfboard story ), other than that no proof exists. We are, after all, talking about a guy who, as AccountInQuestion has put it, is in a Neverending quest for street creds on the internet.
, so it makes no sense that someone so desperate to be believed would not put up, since obviously he's not ever going to shut up. If he wanted no one to know, he would not have put the stories out there in the first place.

[coach belly]

I thought the whole idea was for the Wiz, deemed a reliable witness, to watch some typical baccarat play and then tell us how it went, and what he observed.

Isn't that exactly what happened?

What else is there to tell, beyond what was reported and confirmed by Shack, that could be relevant to the challenge?

[coach belly]

Why on earth would the dawg have even thought of having the Wiz sign a NDA unless there was something he didn't want the Wiz to tell us about, and if so, what could it be?

The location of the session, and MDawg's accommodations, are among details that MD would not want disclosed.

MD played at a private table, why speculate about whatever he expects to remain private?

[MisterV]

Why on earth would the dawg have even thought of having the Wiz sign a NDA unless there was something he didn't want the Wiz to tell us about, and if so, what could it be?

The location of the session, and MDawg's accommodations, are among details that MD would not want disclosed.

MD played at a private table, why speculate about whatever he expects to remain private?

The hound was bragging about a tremendous win rate but wouldn't tell exactly how he played.

His method of play, his system,was what I and I assume others were mostly curious about.

Due to the NDA...*crickets*

[coach belly]

*crickets*

MD explained that he pressed into winning streaks. He had multiple posts to that affect, complete with photos of the tote boards for the shoes that he played, and a nearly hand-by-hand report of how he played them.

This was long before Dennenburp's challenge.

Ultimately, the Wiz witnessed the Dawg doing what he said that he could do, and then verified what MD reported about the session.