Note to Regnis

[redietz]

Check out the Beat the Host eight-week final standings. LOL. Our favorite handicapper came through in the clutch.

Hard to believe.

[redietz]

Normally, they use Santa Anita and Gulfstream. But with Santa Anita canceled, they used Oaklawn for three races. Won all three races.

[accountinquestion]

Hmm this contest looks fun and cool.

Too bad it is play money.

[AxelWolf]

Hmm this contest looks fun and cool.

Too bad it is play money.

Makes sense Reds' touting play money contests. J/k

[redietz]

Hmm this contest looks fun and cool.

Too bad it is play money.

Makes sense Reds' touting play money contests. J/k

Not sure what you mean by play money. You're betting real money and winning entrance fees to large contests where you bet real money. But I'm sure "APs" can explain it to me. Maybe we start up a new term, a substitute for "mansplainin." "APsplainin'."

Sounds good. You guys can "APsplain" it to me.

Also, if you haven't figured it out, I'm not my favorite handicapper. I'm not even in my top three. LOL.

So you play with a live bankroll, and according to the APs listed above, the live bankroll is play money. If I didn't know better, I'd say there's a negative correlation between APing and reading comprehension. Just a hypothesis.

[redietz]

Really, you guys are unbelievable. You are posting negatively about somebody competing with live bankroll for two months and finishing in the top five out of 650 people.

You must have a problem with folks who are actually capable of doing something.

[smurgerburger]

Really, you guys are unbelievable. You are posting negatively about somebody competing with live bankroll for two months and finishing in the top five out of 650 people.

You must have a problem with folks who are actually capable of doing something.

You seem to take boastfulness as a measure of success. Might it not be rather a measure of insecurity?

[monet]

Really, you guys are unbelievable. You are posting negatively about somebody competing with live bankroll for two months and finishing in the top five out of 650 people.

You must have a problem with folks who are actually capable of doing something.

Don't listen to any of them redietz.
I'm not sure which version you prefer but both are really good.
You choose or heck, take them both!!

(Stallone opted for Eye of the Tiger instead of this song for Rocky III but we got lucky to have it in Karate Kid)

[regnis]

You guys are unbelievable. A simple note to me about his girlfriend's continuing prowess in the Beat The Host and you can't just leave it alone. And FYI--I did get a PM about this. As a full-time horseplayer and former contest player (better handicapper than contest player), I am impressed by what she has done over the years and like to hear about it. It is an expensive game to play the contests.

[kewlJ]

You guys are unbelievable. A simple note to me about his girlfriend's continuing prowess in the Beat The Host and you can't just leave it alone.

It is not that unbelievable, regnis. Whatever new thread comes along is immediately hijacked by accountinquestion and a few others, into continuing whatever trolling they are doing at the time, in this case trolling redietz and his sportsbetting.

THAT is what this forum has been reduced to for several years now. I have complained about it for years now and am repeatedly told by AinQ and other trolls, that this is the way they like it.....a troll forum. Druff doesn't seem to care one way or the other.

[mickeycrimm]

It is not that unbelievable, regnis. Whatever new thread comes along is immediately hijacked by accountinquestion and a few others, into continuing whatever trolling they are doing at the time, in this case trolling redietz and his sportsbetting.

THAT is what this forum has been reduced to for several years now. I have complained about it for years now and am repeatedly told by AinQ and other trolls, that this is the way they like it.....a troll forum. Druff doesn't seem to care one way or the other.

Amazing that you are blind to all the trolling that ditz is doing. But they say love is blind. He's actually taken your place as the number one troll.

[redietz]

You guys are unbelievable. A simple note to me about his girlfriend's continuing prowess in the Beat The Host and you can't just leave it alone. And FYI--I did get a PM about this. As a full-time horseplayer and former contest player (better handicapper than contest player), I am impressed by what she has done over the years and like to hear about it. It is an expensive game to play the contests.

Appreciate it, regnis.

Hey, get this. I just finished the first draft of a script I was asked to do by the producers of a show that's contracted with IHEARTRadio. It's gotta be fact-based, but you can move names and details around so you don't wind up in a hole in the desert. I have no idea what I'm doing and the odds are about 100-1 against my script being used, but it has been a kick to write it.

So this is officially a plug for The Gangster Chronicles. It was called Mob Stories initially, but they switched up the name.

[accountinquestion]

Really, you guys are unbelievable. You are posting negatively about somebody competing with live bankroll for two months and finishing in the top five out of 650 people.

You must have a problem with folks who are actually capable of doing something.

If you'd at least explained what your point was and given a link. Instead of talking to someone else about "our favorite handicapper". I have seen this behavior somewhere... oh yea 5th grade. I remember now.

Literally not only should it have only been a private message, you intentionally went vague to help ensure there was nothing of interest to anyone. Then you whine.. So stop being a loser, red.

[kewlJ]

I have seen this behavior somewhere... oh yea 5th grade. I remember now.

But do you remember which of your 3 years in the 5th grade it was?

[mickeycrimm]

I have seen this behavior somewhere... oh yea 5th grade. I remember now.

But do you remember which of your 3 years in the 5th grade it was?

Tewlj quit school in the 3rd grade when he got his driver's license.

[accountinquestion]

I have seen this behavior somewhere... oh yea 5th grade. I remember now.

But do you remember which of your 3 years in the 5th grade it was?

You're so right you're not a troll. This attempt is so goddam weak it can't even be considered a troll.

Now we could have gotten into an honest discussion about that, that could have benefited many, and many of us could have learned something, except you and other that don't like redietz, some that have even admitted it saying "because he is arrogant and looks and talks down to people", have decided to just gang up on and attack him instead. And now he has turned defensive as would be expected and we are deeper into the usual trolling and attacking that this forum is famous for.

Redietz has never made any attempt at a serious discussion. Never any sort of back and forth. Ask him a serious question that doesn't jive with his nonsense and it is crickets.

Red's main problem is he has no clue what he doesn't know and thats what gets him in trouble.

Now he's trying to suggest he knows some mafia secrets and he would be in danger. At some point I should just feel sorry for him given how hard he tries to impress but then I remember who I am dealing with.

Kewl likes Redietz because they have more in common with each than others on this forum. 2 characters who will the same 2 characters forever.

Although in fairness to Kewl. Kewl does answer questions and loves to share info on blackjack. I do believe he is an expert. I'm not sure about BJ in Vegas being Kewl's source of income or not. Redietz on the other hand never talks about any sorts of specifics. Ask him a tough question and you'll get silence. Kewl will at least make an effort to share. Redietz puts more energy into telling people how they're wrong and it is almost always some bullshit semantical argument he makes.

[redietz]

You're so right you're not a troll. This attempt is so goddam weak it can't even be considered a troll.

Now we could have gotten into an honest discussion about that, that could have benefited many, and many of us could have learned something, except you and other that don't like redietz, some that have even admitted it saying "because he is arrogant and looks and talks down to people", have decided to just gang up on and attack him instead. And now he has turned defensive as would be expected and we are deeper into the usual trolling and attacking that this forum is famous for.

Redietz has never made any attempt at a serious discussion. Never any sort of back and forth. Ask him a serious question that doesn't jive with his nonsense and it is crickets.

Red's main problem is he has no clue what he doesn't know and thats what gets him in trouble.

Now he's trying to suggest he knows some mafia secrets and he would be in danger. At some point I should just feel sorry for him given how hard he tries to impress but then I remember who I am dealing with.

Kewl likes Redietz because they have more in common with each than others on this forum. 2 characters who will the same 2 characters forever.

Although in fairness to Kewl. Kewl does answer questions and loves to share info on blackjack. I do believe he is an expert. I'm not sure about BJ in Vegas being Kewl's source of income or not. Redietz on the other hand never talks about any sorts of specifics. Ask him a tough question and you'll get silence. Kewl will at least make an effort to share. Redietz puts more energy into telling people how they're wrong and it is almost always some bullshit semantical argument he makes.

Redietz's main problem is that, outside of current transient bonus whoring and promotional parlay boosters, every angle that "APs" are using was available and used by handicappers for the last 40 years. Not only that, the mechanics of doing what "APs" are claiming to do to make money across all sports were easier 40 years ago. Much easier. So when "APs" claim to be cruising through sports betting, it's comical. Handicappers have been doing what the current "APs" claim to do, have done it in more favorable environments for doing it, and are aware it's logistically difficult and nowhere near guaranteed. But the crop of "APs" on this site have decided a poor old handicapper doesn't have the savvy to recognize these huge advantages featuring "soft numbers" -- my favorite, "steam chasing" -- gag me with a spoon, and arbitrage.

All of these things were easier 40 years ago, and every handicapper worth his salt was doing them 24/7. Except, for example, we didn't call them "soft numbers" because that's a misnomer. Wrong verbiage there. Middles shooting and arbitrage have existed forever.

The only thing the "APs" have going for them versus an experienced handicapper from 30 years ago are bonuses (gimmickry that will not sustain you), parlay boosters (the percent advantage of which are technically figured incorrectly, by the way, because the comparison should be with straight plays, not other parlays). Programs that alert one to arbitrage or middles were being used by Larry Fletcher (AKA Southern Comfort) before Windows existed. Meanwhile, the current crop of "APs," versus handicappers from 30 years ago, has numerous disadvantages of which they are blithely unaware.

But the narrative, as so beautifully put by account, is that I just don't understand the inner secrets of "AP" sports wagering. They have secrets, abilities, and priorities that can create continual winning across all sports. I just cannot grasp it. I've done what they do, sans bonuses (which I am saving for a rainy day) for 40 years, but I just can't see the opportunities they see.

That's quite a storyline. The secret world of "AP" sports betting. What is it that you maroons do that you think handicappers haven't been doing since the dawn of time, and under better conditions?

[kewlJ]

Redietz on the other hand never talks about any sorts of specifics. Ask him a tough question and you'll get silence.

Don't know what happened to my original response to this, as it disappeared during my edit process. So I will try again.

Dude, you do realize that MOST AP's, whether professional playing for a living or recreational, but playing seriously, rarely get too specific about what they do. There is a good reason for that.

I am in a liile bit of a different boat, since what I do, card counting is completely known by everyone, casinos included. Nothing new here, so I can't get into too much trouble describing some of what I do. I can get into a little trouble being too specific about some of the ways I apply different things that allows for longevity, which is why I only reveal some of that.

So I don't know why you are giving redeitz shit for something almost all AP, and winning players do...not get too specific or share everything they do.

[accountinquestion]

Nothing wrong with freerolls aka play money. Because there is so little to win - you're not going to have sharp AP bettors coming out of the woodwork. That is GOOD for you redietz. sheesh

[redietz]

Nothing wrong with freerolls aka play money. Because there is so little to win - you're not going to have sharp AP bettors coming out of the woodwork. That is GOOD for you redietz. sheesh

First, it was not a freeroll. If you bet real money, that is not, by definition, a freeroll.

Second, it wasn't me. I guess I need to spell that out.

Other than that, you guys are spot on.

Talk about sheesh.

And I love anonymous handles talking about insecurity. I mean holy hell, do you not see the irony?