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  1. #1
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I also have one other issue that I will mention here. It is something Jstat sort of said, but it is not specific to him. That is players lumping 6 and 8 deck games together. On the surface a 6 deck game and an eight deck game seem similar, but they are very, very different. On the surface it looks like an addition house advantage of .03 percent...almost nothing. For the basic strategy, flat betting player that would be a negligible difference. He likely wouldn't notice any difference in results between playing 6 and 8 decks.

    But a card counter depends on the true count frequencies, for placing his higher wagers which makes all the difference and those true count frequencies are humongous different between 6 and 8 decks.

    For example pretty standard H17,75% penetration true count frequencies comparing 6 deck to 8 deck. Lets compare true count of +4 since that is a point many players place their top or max wager. 8 deck you will see a TC of +4, 1.88% of the time. 6 deck it is 2.45% of the time. That is a increase of 33% of max bet opportunities which translates directly to win rate.

    If you look at TC of +4 and above the difference is even more dramatic. 8 deck 3.62% of rounds will be play at Tc of +4 or greater. 6 deck it is 5.21%. That is an increase of 44% of max bet opportunities.

    Depending on exact rules and penetration there could be a difference in actual win rate of up to 50% between a 6 deck game and 8 deck game.

    Who makes more more money a guy who runs 10k of action through machine with a 9k lose or a pit boss cock sucking fraud ? Free bets to free play and vice versa flat betting at will no need to count. Plugged into the mother fucking matrix why frauds pretend to be sharp, and post fucking endless bullshit about how they hammer a 1 or 2 percent edge for 20 hours a week to make millions lol. Such frauds lolololololol


    Jump off the high roller idiot

    Then you have half the BJA members doing their own pod cast, and posting strat trying to gain followers lol. All of you are the same zombie hoard idiots looking for attention. Wannabe Influencers trying to feel relevant, lost without purpose. Letting Maslow’s hierarchy take control of your weak drug addicted minds.

    Embrace what you are fraud.

  2. #2
    Pure at the snow as I am the bad guy. Embracing the number 1 spot hunted by the hunters. Ghosting the system as they try and figure out if corruption is my play. Master of Illusion as my face is but a flash, radiant without worry. Lololololololol


    Fuck the red hand

    Fuck the rats

  3. #3
    Video of live blackjack for trolls who have never participated playing. Or those who live in mom’s basement :-(

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  4. #4
    Looks like an ongoing battle between gritty relentless Seedvalue and veteran hole counting asshole jbjb ! Should be quite a match folks! As long as jb doesn't block him and stick to one come backs.

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  6. #6
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    clean-up on aisle five !
    lul... Not one Caucasian in sight!

  7. #7
    A break in the action with a Frank Sinatra entertainer at my party.

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  8. #8
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    clean-up on aisle five !
    lul... Not one Caucasian in sight!
    There was one Good Samaritan in the bunch. This guy tried to repair a checkout machine using a hammer - didn't seem like the right tool for the job, but what do I know:
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  9. #9
    This!

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  10. #10
    So much not necessary fighting here

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  11. #11
    Mike Matusow is a pathetic, broke ploppy that you'd never have heard from if it weren't for Phil Hellmuth

  12. #12
    Are really any card counters here besides me? Phonies just like KJ and loser Richard Munchkin are both fiction writers and tell fish stories. I feel like the Maytag Man without successful players to relate to


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  13. #13
    Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    Are really any card counters here besides me? Phonies just like KJ and loser Richard Munchkin are both fiction writers and tell fish stories. I feel like the Maytag Man without successful players to relate to


    Card counting is stupid and a colossal waste of casino time.

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Card counting is stupid and a colossal waste of casino time.
    Well, at least you are consistent. Consistently looking down on card counters, just like you know who does. I think every time I talk to him he starts with "are you still counting cards?"

    I have stopped sharing how I am doing on these forums but, this first quarter of the year is going to be the second best quarter I have had in my 20 years. Way above expectation and 75% strictly card counting. So for me it is not a waste of time.

    While a really good quarter, nowhere near my best where I went from down 35k to up 85k in a 5 week period about 8 years ago. That was just a crazy run. This is nowhere near that, unfortunately, but still worth it and not a waste of time, to me.

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Card counting is stupid and a colossal waste of casino time.
    Well, at least you are consistent. Consistently looking down on card counters, just like you know who does. I think every time I talk to him he starts with "are you still counting cards?"

    I have stopped sharing how I am doing on these forums but, this first quarter of the year is going to be the second best quarter I have had in my 20 years. Way above expectation and 75% strictly card counting. So for me it is not a waste of time.

    While a really good quarter, nowhere near my best where I went from down 35k to up 85k in a 5 week period about 8 years ago. That was just a crazy run. This is nowhere near that, unfortunately, but still worth it and not a waste of time, to me.
    I made more than that in January alone!

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post

    I made more than that in January alone!
    You are like one of those grouchy "get off my lawn" guys. "No you can't have your football back. It is mine now".

  17. #17
    Jstat the card counter: Dude you were a mailman until you retired.

    I have no problem if you want to jump on the anti-KJ bandwagon. Doesn't change anything about me or you and reality.

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Jstat the card counter: Dude you were a mailman until you retired.

    I have no problem if you want to jump on the anti-KJ bandwagon. Doesn't change anything about me or you and reality.
    kJ: It’s cool, just letting out steam. Did you know Arnold Snyder was a mailman just as myself?


    Last edited by JSTAT; 03-30-2023 at 04:17 PM.
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  19. #19
    Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    kJ: It’s cool, just letting out steam. Did you know Arnold Snyder was a mailman just as myself?
    Umm, that Arnold was a mailman, sounds somewhat familiar, so I might have heard that. No offense, but it doesn't impress me. Are you a fan of Arnold or did he have a big influence on you?

    Just by circumstance, I didn't read much of Arnold's books and work until after I had read some other things and by that time, all those books had the same basic information, which was more about the games from the 80's. People like Wong and Schlesinger who I read early on, long before I got around to Arnold had a much bigger influence on me. But again, that just happens to be the order that I read and learned. If I had come across Arnold earlier, he probably would have had a bigger influence because he had some unique and outside the box ideas like opposition wagering.

    But I don't think he did himself any favors by being as "flamboyant" as he was with all that "bishop" stuff. At the time he was playing the strategy for longevity would have been to try to fly under the radar. He did the opposite, as did Kenny Uston.

    Now again, I don't care what you say or think about me. I sort of like that so many people don't believe me, or at least claim they don't. That would be good for my career, if it hadn't been events of the last 18 months, doxing and someone providing info to the casinos or database (casino I presume). It does crack me up that some of these guys that have been able to look into me, so they know, still are in denial.

    You know, I have a business relationship and I consider a friend in/with one of the top AP's here in Vegas. I work on some plays with him and his team some over the last couple years, as I have diversified a bit. I think most Vegas based APs, and I assume even non-Vegas APs are aware of that by now and have confirmed that, which is why no real APs or very few every doubt anything about me. But feel free to doubt all you want.

    More than what you say or think about me, your comments about Munchkin are just not right. I don't know if you have some kind of bone to pick with Munchkin or something, but he is a top AP, and plays with the same top AP that I sometimes work with on all sorts of things besides card counting. You making the comments you made, just diminishes any credibility you may have had, in my opinion.

    I really don't have a problem with you Jstat, other than you have pushed a narrative about hi-lo that just is not true for decades now. I don't doubt that you were/are a somewhat successful recreational, or part-time card counter. But that is far different than playing for a living, and playing the stakes necessary to make even a modest living and devising a plan that allows you to be able to keep being welcome to play. These are just things a recreational player just can't know about.

    But happy trails to you. Seriously, whatever your agenda is...have fun. But just don't expect me to stay silent if you continue to say things like hi-lo is a hoax.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 03-30-2023 at 05:04 PM.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    kJ: It’s cool, just letting out steam. Did you know Arnold Snyder was a mailman just as myself?
    Umm, that Arnold was a mailman, sounds somewhat familiar, so I might have heard that. No offense, but it doesn't impress me. Are you a fan of Arnold or did he have a big influence on you?

    Just by circumstance, I didn't read much of Arnold's books and work until after I had read some other things and by that time, all those books had the same basic information, which was more about the games from the 80's. People like Wong and Schlesinger who I read early on, long before I got around to Arnold had a much bigger influence on me. But again, that just happens to be the order that I read and learned. If I had come across Arnold earlier, he probably would have had a bigger influence because he had some unique and outside the box ideas like opposition

    the radar. He did the opposite, as did Kenny Uston.

    You missed Bishop Arnold Snyder of the First Church of Blackjack playing the part of preacher. I talked to Arnold for years on the phone. He answered my questions and our conversations were pleasurable. He published my articles in Blackjack Forum. Snyder was part of the player I am today. For your pleasure, here’s a Bishop Snyder sermon

    Last edited by JSTAT; 03-30-2023 at 05:44 PM.
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